A. Brooks looks bad in his first two preseason games (1 Viewer)

[Deuce'sWild]

1 for 3 in game one, and 1 for 6 in game two. I think Moss had 1 catch out of two games. I don't want to panic yet, but my finger is tapping on the panic button. I had planned to take Brooks late and thought he would be a great sleeper this year.

Not so sure anymore

 

[coolnerd]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

 

[brakeyawself]

Join the Andrew Walter bandwagon we just started a few threads earlier.

 

[Footballhead]

He looked even worse in the questionarie with Suzy. I don't think he answered any of the questions?

Suzy: So how would you transition be with a new team

Brooks: Yeah, the transition is difficult, I got to move from NO to Cali ....

Anybody know how he did on his wonderlic?

 

[Klecko HOF]

He looked even worse in the questionarie with Suzy. I don't think he answered any of the questions?Suzy: So how would you transition be with a new teamBrooks: Yeah, the transition is difficult, I got to move from NO to Cali ....Anybody know how he did on his wonderlic?

That offensive line looks promising on paper, but is a sieve. Porous.I won't place all of the blame on the line, as Brooks is horribly inaccurate and hesitant, but Lamont Jordan must be wondering, WTF?!?(edited for spelling)

 

[imeimex]

He looked even worse in the questionarie with Suzy. I don't think he answered any of the questions?Suzy: So how would you transition be with a new teamBrooks: Yeah, the transition is difficult, I got to move from NO to Cali ....Anybody know how he did on his wonderlic?

All of the interviews I have seen Brooks do during this offseason he has talked about how well he performed in New Orleans. While I agree that he has had some nice numbers, his main focus should be on the win/loss percentage and Brooks never has seemed to be to worried about that. I am probably one of Brooks biggest appologists, but the disturbing trends continue.Oh and by the way did anyone see him run out of bounds on their first play from scrimmage? He gained about 5 yards, screamed like a girl and had a huge smile on his face like he had just made some great play.

 

[ATC1]

He looked even worse in the questionarie with Suzy. I don't think he answered any of the questions?Suzy: So how would you transition be with a new teamBrooks: Yeah, the transition is difficult, I got to move from NO to Cali ....Anybody know how he did on his wonderlic?

All of the interviews I have seen Brooks do during this offseason he has talked about how well he performed in New Orleans. While I agree that he has had some nice numbers, his main focus should be on the win/loss percentage and Brooks never has seemed to be to worried about that. I am probably one of Brooks biggest appologists, but the disturbing trends continue.Oh and by the way did anyone see him run out of bounds on their first play from scrimmage? He gained about 5 yards, screamed like a girl and had a huge smile on his face like he had just made some great play.

He always has that ######y (gayish) smile on his face. After he throws his 4th INT or decides to throw the ball behind him. Having to watch him the past couple of years made me :X Happy Saints fan

 

[wraith5]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

Folks need to take a deep breath and not over-react about preseason games. Rex Grossman didn't look good, either - but we all know he'll be just fine when the season starts...

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

Title should read: Raiders O-line has looked bad in the first two games.

This is effecting Brooks and having the time to make reads. Brooks has always seemed to need more time to throw than most QB's. The player that I am starting to worry about is Lamont Jordan. Brooks seems to have a knack for TO's in the redzone (no stats to back up, just something I noticed as a Duece owner). In my opinion Lamont Jordans value is slipping from a possible 8-10 pick to somewhere in the early second or lower.

 

[Sinrman]

It's still only preseason, but it only reinforces my opinion that Brooks is not the answer. Hell, COLLINS looked better last year!

I'm glad that I've completely avoided Brooks in all drafts. I was pretty shocked that he was ranked as high as he was by FBGs and being drafted ahead of other promising QBs. That's not to say that Brooks can't turn it around, and he can have a great season. But so far............

And I agree about that O-line....... oi vey! :X

 

[coolnerd]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

Folks need to take a deep breath and not over-react about preseason games. Rex Grossman didn't look good, either - but we all know he'll be just fine when the season starts...

Yeah...I was thinking the same thing

 

[imeimex]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

Folks need to take a deep breath and not over-react about preseason games. Rex Grossman didn't look good, either - but we all know he'll be just fine when the season starts...

Folks shouldn't come to a fantasy football board and not expect some analysis of pre-season games. I know how sweet everyones replies would be if we all had to run a disclaimer saying I know it is just a pre-season game but......As someone pointed out in an earlier game thread, we are all smart enough to know that it is the preseason. Oakland has struggled on both sides of the field for the last three years, and they are continuing to show many of the same traits including bad line play, questionable play calling, and untimely penalties. When you add in the fact that players like Porter have come out and openly questioned the offensive coordinators playcalling ability, and there are some very negative signs that will probably linger into the regular season. Than again maybe these boards should shut down from February to September as all of this time is offseason, and no one needs to over-react to offseason/preseason.

 

[hotboyz]

Here is something I noticed I don't think the raiders offense looks bad because it's pre-season Ithink they are in trouble. If you notice or you can re watch the game pay attention to the QB drops meaning 3 step or 5 step or 7 step drop, Notice that no matter who the QB was for Minnesota when they got to there last step they either threw the ball or took off. When the raiders have the ball the first thing tht jumped out to me was every pass was a 7 step drop that may have worked in the 70's but 7 step drops with today's athletes are almost non-existent but even with those 7 step drops when the qb got back there they still were not ready to release the ball!! This was every Raider QB!! Not to mention on Defense the first team played a lot of 8 man fronts that tells me that the defensive coaches have figured out they are going to have a hard time stopping the run. I expect if they play this way in the regular season they are going to be killed by the big play especially with teams that have TE's that can control the middle of the field ie..Gonzales, and Gates.

 

[DawnBTVS]

Here is something I noticed I don't think the raiders offense looks bad because it's pre-season Ithink they are in trouble. If you notice or you can re watch the game pay attention to the QB drops meaning 3 step or 5 step or 7 step drop, Notice that no matter who the QB was for Minnesota when they got to there last step they either threw the ball or took off. When the raiders have the ball the first thing tht jumped out to me was every pass was a 7 step drop that may have worked in the 70's but 7 step drops with today's athletes are almost non-existent but even with those 7 step drops when the qb got back there they still were not ready to release the ball!! This was every Raider QB!! Not to mention on Defense the first team played a lot of 8 man fronts that tells me that the defensive coaches have figured out they are going to have a hard time stopping the run. I expect if they play this way in the regular season they are going to be killed by the big play especially with teams that have TE's that can control the middle of the field ie..Gonzales, and Gates.

I've also noticed that. Has anybody tried to time how long Brooks/Walter, etc. hold the ball? As a guess, it definitely seems longer than 3-4 seconds.

 

[Sinrman]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

Folks need to take a deep breath and not over-react about preseason games. Rex Grossman didn't look good, either - but we all know he'll be just fine when the season starts...

He needs to make it there first...

 

[hotboyz]

Here is something I noticed I don't think the raiders offense looks bad because it's pre-season Ithink they are in trouble. If you notice or you can re watch the game pay attention to the QB drops meaning 3 step or 5 step or 7 step drop, Notice that no matter who the QB was for Minnesota when they got to there last step they either threw the ball or took off. When the raiders have the ball the first thing tht jumped out to me was every pass was a 7 step drop that may have worked in the 70's but 7 step drops with today's athletes are almost non-existent but even with those 7 step drops when the qb got back there they still were not ready to release the ball!! This was every Raider QB!! Not to mention on Defense the first team played a lot of 8 man fronts that tells me that the defensive coaches have figured out they are going to have a hard time stopping the run. I expect if they play this way in the regular season they are going to be killed by the big play especially with teams that have TE's that can control the middle of the field ie..Gonzales, and Gates.

I've also noticed that. Has anybody tried to time how long Brooks/Walter, etc. hold the ball? As a guess, it definitely seems longer than 3-4 seconds.

I don't think it is a Brooks Walters problem I think it's the Raiders offense take a look at the vikings 4th string QB he still gets the ball out on that last step but not the Raiders QB's

 

[Pnishthm]

I was think about Brooks as a later round pick, but I saw some thing that made me remember what I hated about him... 3rd and 2 and he drops back to pass, gets a little rush from the inside. He could have easily side steped but instead did his patented backpeddel, going back further and further until he threw the ball away. RUN MAN RUN!

 

[guderian]

Here is something I noticed I don't think the raiders offense looks bad because it's pre-season Ithink they are in trouble. If you notice or you can re watch the game pay attention to the QB drops meaning 3 step or 5 step or 7 step drop, Notice that no matter who the QB was for Minnesota when they got to there last step they either threw the ball or took off. When the raiders have the ball the first thing tht jumped out to me was every pass was a 7 step drop that may have worked in the 70's but 7 step drops with today's athletes are almost non-existent but even with those 7 step drops when the qb got back there they still were not ready to release the ball!! This was every Raider QB!! Not to mention on Defense the first team played a lot of 8 man fronts that tells me that the defensive coaches have figured out they are going to have a hard time stopping the run. I expect if they play this way in the regular season they are going to be killed by the big play especially with teams that have TE's that can control the middle of the field ie..Gonzales, and Gates.

I've also noticed that. Has anybody tried to time how long Brooks/Walter, etc. hold the ball? As a guess, it definitely seems longer than 3-4 seconds.

As I read in some publication...Aaron Brooks is the innovator of the 11 step drop. He gets pressured and starts back pedaling and hanging onto the ball. Once that happens nothing good ever happens.

 

[wraith5]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

Folks need to take a deep breath and not over-react about preseason games. Rex Grossman didn't look good, either - but we all know he'll be just fine when the season starts...

Folks shouldn't come to a fantasy football board and not expect some analysis of pre-season games. I know how sweet everyones replies would be if we all had to run a disclaimer saying I know it is just a pre-season game but......As someone pointed out in an earlier game thread, we are all smart enough to know that it is the preseason. Oakland has struggled on both sides of the field for the last three years, and they are continuing to show many of the same traits including bad line play, questionable play calling, and untimely penalties. When you add in the fact that players like Porter have come out and openly questioned the offensive coordinators playcalling ability, and there are some very negative signs that will probably linger into the regular season. Than again maybe these boards should shut down from February to September as all of this time is offseason, and no one needs to over-react to offseason/preseason.

It's called , Big Guy. I thought the Grossman reference would clue people in... Brooks is not a good quarterback, and does not have a winning mentality - as someone else pointed out, he thinks he did WELL in N.O. I didn't see the beginning of the game, but I've seen the repeated penetration the MN D is getting, and it's not pretty if you are a Raiders fan, or if you're depending on any Raiders for your FF team. FWIW, I love the commentary and opinions on this board, and depend on the evaluations people make of pre-season games I can't see. Wraith OUT.

 

[wraith5]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

Folks need to take a deep breath and not over-react about preseason games. Rex Grossman didn't look good, either - but we all know he'll be just fine when the season starts...

He needs to make it there first...

I need to work on my sarcasm, clearly - let me clarify: I think Grossman looked bad because he IS bad. I'm praying for Griese. I think Brooks looked bad because he IS bad.

 

[coolnerd]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

Folks need to take a deep breath and not over-react about preseason games. Rex Grossman didn't look good, either - but we all know he'll be just fine when the season starts...

He needs to make it there first...

I need to work on my sarcasm, clearly - let me clarify: I think Grossman looked bad because he IS bad. I'm praying for Griese. I think Brooks looked bad because he IS bad.

At least the person you responded to got it.

 

[Big Score]

That offense has looked terrible in both nationally televised games. Pre-season is not a time to panic, but usually a team and a QB need to do something NFLish when they are in the game.

Folks need to take a deep breath and not over-react about preseason games. Rex Grossman didn't look good, either - but we all know he'll be just fine when the season starts...

Folks shouldn't come to a fantasy football board and not expect some analysis of pre-season games. I know how sweet everyones replies would be if we all had to run a disclaimer saying I know it is just a pre-season game but......As someone pointed out in an earlier game thread, we are all smart enough to know that it is the preseason. Oakland has struggled on both sides of the field for the last three years, and they are continuing to show many of the same traits including bad line play, questionable play calling, and untimely penalties. When you add in the fact that players like Porter have come out and openly questioned the offensive coordinators playcalling ability, and there are some very negative signs that will probably linger into the regular season. Than again maybe these boards should shut down from February to September as all of this time is offseason, and no one needs to over-react to offseason/preseason.

It's called , Big Guy. I thought the Grossman reference would clue people in...

It did...I laughed my butt off.

 

[Jason Wood]

The Raiders are in massive disarray. Let's not kid ourselves here, Art Shell's return is a "feel good" story for sure but it's also a byproduct of other viable NFL head coaching candidates refusing to interview for the Oakland job. As much as I wonder whether Art Shell is ready for his return, I would bet dollars to donuts that Tom Walsh, at best, is in the bottom third of league coordinators.

 

[pinequick]

Title should read: Raiders O-line has looked bad in the first two games.

This is effecting Brooks and having the time to make reads. Brooks has always seemed to need more time to throw than most QB's. The player that I am starting to worry about is Lamont Jordan. Brooks seems to have a knack for TO's in the redzone (no stats to back up, just something I noticed as a Duece owner). In my opinion Lamont Jordans value is slipping from a possible 8-10 pick to somewhere in the early second or lower.

For being such a highly-drafted, can't-miss manchild, Robert Gallery looks like a huge piece of #### out there. I went to Iowa and I've been rooting for him, but boy has he looked bad the last two weeks. Philly threw some guy I had never heard of out there against him last week, and made Gallery look like a chump. He gave up one sack for sure, and a bunch of pressures. Then Gallery let his guy get an inside move again tonight. He has to be a real disappointment to this point for the Raiders and their fans.

 

[Pnishthm]

Here is something I noticed I don't think the raiders offense looks bad because it's pre-season Ithink they are in trouble. If you notice or you can re watch the game pay attention to the QB drops meaning 3 step or 5 step or 7 step drop, Notice that no matter who the QB was for Minnesota when they got to there last step they either threw the ball or took off. When the raiders have the ball the first thing tht jumped out to me was every pass was a 7 step drop that may have worked in the 70's but 7 step drops with today's athletes are almost non-existent but even with those 7 step drops when the qb got back there they still were not ready to release the ball!! This was every Raider QB!! Not to mention on Defense the first team played a lot of 8 man fronts that tells me that the defensive coaches have figured out they are going to have a hard time stopping the run. I expect if they play this way in the regular season they are going to be killed by the big play especially with teams that have TE's that can control the middle of the field ie..Gonzales, and Gates.

I've also noticed that. Has anybody tried to time how long Brooks/Walter, etc. hold the ball? As a guess, it definitely seems longer than 3-4 seconds.

As I read in some publication...Aaron Brooks is the innovator of the 11 step drop. He gets pressured and starts back pedaling and hanging onto the ball. Once that happens nothing good ever happens.

No way is he the innovator of the 11 step drop. My buddy has been doing that in Madden for years

 

[SammyJankis]

Let's see: Aaron Brooks will be the #1 fantasy QB this year, am I crazy or is this possible?

You're crazy. Next question....