A.J. Green (1 Viewer)

[jurb26]

AJ Green is a stud. A lot of people around here are probably realizing now that they should have gotten on this guys bus a loooong time ago. Easily the best WR in this class. Better than any of the last 3 classes as well.

THey said Crabtree was the best WR in many years.They said Calvin was the best WR in many years.

They said Dez Bryant was the best WR in many years.

They even said the same about Mike Williams and Charles Rogers.

I think AJ Green will be OK at the next level and he could reach stud label if he lands in the right spot (ask Crabtree what that means).

So many variables - but certainly a talented WR.

Who is they? I didn't say that about any of those guys. I've said that about 3 guys; Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerld and now AJ Green.

Dont forget Roy Williams

Roy was not in that class.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

AJ Green is a stud. A lot of people around here are probably realizing now that they should have gotten on this guys bus a loooong time ago. Easily the best WR in this class. Better than any of the last 3 classes as well.

THey said Crabtree was the best WR in many years.They said Calvin was the best WR in many years.

They said Dez Bryant was the best WR in many years.

They even said the same about Mike Williams and Charles Rogers.

I think AJ Green will be OK at the next level and he could reach stud label if he lands in the right spot (ask Crabtree what that means).

So many variables - but certainly a talented WR.

Who is they? I didn't say that about any of those guys. I've said that about 3 guys; Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerld and now AJ Green.

Dont forget Roy Williams

Roy was not in that class.

again...aj green is no calvin andre or fitz... hes just not

 

[Cheesedawg]

again...aj green is no calvin andre or fitz... hes just not

Todd McShay says he's the most complete WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson. Mel Kiper has him as the second or third pick in the draft. He said that Green is an immense talent and noted that when you look at all the attributes that go into being an outstanding, Pro Bowl caliber feature receiver in the NFL, Green has them all. That's good enough for me.

 

[FFdork]

again...aj green is no calvin andre or fitz... hes just not

Todd McShay says he's the most complete WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson. Mel Kiper has him as the second or third pick in the draft. He said that Green is an immense talent and noted that when you look at all the attributes that go into being an outstanding, Pro Bowl caliber feature receiver in the NFL, Green has them all. That's good enough for me.

As I've posted earlier in this thread, I'm with you except for putting much stock in what Todd McShay says.For fantasy football purposes it wouldn't shock me if Green is one of those WRs that takes a little time to adjust to the NFL game, especially if he lands on a team without a great QB. Unless he really hits the weight room I can see him getting roughed up a lot at the line of scrimmage and he's isn't the pure speed kind of guy to really burn you for trying to play him like that. On the other hand, if he lands with a good QB who will trust him and throw into tight windows, those hands could make him fantasy gold right away.

 

[The Ref]

It's looking like the Rams will be finishing too high to land Green. I had pictured the Rams taking him to pair up with Bradford for the next 10 years.

 

[Steed]

No one is considered about his skinny frame?

 

[todisco1]

No one is considered about his skinny frame?

I'm not considered, though I am slightly concerned about his skinny frame. I think he'll bulk up a bit though and be fine.

 

[pantherclub]

again...aj green is no calvin andre or fitz... hes just not

Todd McShay says he's the most complete WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson.



Mel Kiper has him as the second or third pick in the draft. He said that Green is an immense talent and noted that when you look at all the attributes that go into being an outstanding, Pro Bowl caliber feature receiver in the NFL, Green has them all.

That's good enough for me.

Its hard to take Mel serious anymore when he said Clausen was the best qb in the draft and it wasnt close. I am not sure what he saw after 3 years at ND but Clausen is a borderline NFL backup.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

No one is considered about his skinny frame?

Not really. I put him right in a tier with Dez Bryant, slightly behind Calvin coming out of college. He would (and will) be my #1 pick in a PPR.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Isnt AJ a 4.5 40 guy? not that thats bad but ur talking about 4.3 guys in Randy, AJ and Calvin.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Isnt AJ a 4.5 40 guy? not that thats bad but ur talking about 4.3 guys in Randy, AJ and Calvin.

Thats the least of my concerns to be honest. Fitz and Dez are not blazers. On the whole I think 40 time is incredibly overrated as far as receivers go. Give me someone that can run good routes, can go up and get the ball and has good hands.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

again...aj green is no calvin andre or fitz... hes just not

Todd McShay says he's the most complete WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson. Mel Kiper has him as the second or third pick in the draft. He said that Green is an immense talent and noted that when you look at all the attributes that go into being an outstanding, Pro Bowl caliber feature receiver in the NFL, Green has them all. That's good enough for me.

As I've posted earlier in this thread, I'm with you except for putting much stock in what Todd McShay says.For fantasy football purposes it wouldn't shock me if Green is one of those WRs that takes a little time to adjust to the NFL game, especially if he lands on a team without a great QB. Unless he really hits the weight room I can see him getting roughed up a lot at the line of scrimmage and he's isn't the pure speed kind of guy to really burn you for trying to play him like that. On the other hand, if he lands with a good QB who will trust him and throw into tight windows, those hands could make him fantasy gold right away.

You haven't been watching the same Green I have. He has unquestioned wheels. And at 6'4 212 is plenty big enough to fight off jams. Add a few pounds in the offseason and he is very similar to Andre.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Isnt AJ a 4.5 40 guy? not that thats bad but ur talking about 4.3 guys in Randy, AJ and Calvin.

Thats the least of my concerns to be honest. Fitz and Dez are not blazers. On the whole I think 40 time is incredibly overrated as far as receivers go. Give me someone that can run good routes, can go up and get the ball and has good hands.

I agree with you but Dez and Fitz also have strength that AJ doesnt. I think hes a great prospect but as far as physical ability i think hes a tier below those guys. Id put him in the Crabtree category.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Isnt AJ a 4.5 40 guy? not that thats bad but ur talking about 4.3 guys in Randy, AJ and Calvin.

Thats the least of my concerns to be honest. Fitz and Dez are not blazers. On the whole I think 40 time is incredibly overrated as far as receivers go. Give me someone that can run good routes, can go up and get the ball and has good hands.

I agree with you but Dez and Fitz also have strength that AJ doesnt. I think hes a great prospect but as far as physical ability i think hes a tier below those guys. Id put him in the Crabtree category.

...I would be very surprised if he runs under a 4.55. He does have great hands, but so did BMW.He seems to go down pretty easily on first contact too. I'm just not sure how hes going to do against pro corners ...I remember watching the OK state vs. Georgia game a two years ago(for Dez Bryant purposes) and Perrish Cox completely shut him down. Is he a solid WR? yes he is. Could he be elite in a great situation like roddy white or reggie wayne? yes he could. Is he a Fitz,Andre,Calvin or Dez talent? not in my opinion

 

[FFdork]

again...aj green is no calvin andre or fitz... hes just not

Todd McShay says he's the most complete WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson.

Mel Kiper has him as the second or third pick in the draft. He said that Green is an immense talent and noted that when you look at all the attributes that go into being an outstanding, Pro Bowl caliber feature receiver in the NFL, Green has them all.

That's good enough for me.

As I've posted earlier in this thread, I'm with you except for putting much stock in what Todd McShay says.For fantasy football purposes it wouldn't shock me if Green is one of those WRs that takes a little time to adjust to the NFL game, especially if he lands on a team without a great QB. Unless he really hits the weight room I can see him getting roughed up a lot at the line of scrimmage and he's isn't the pure speed kind of guy to really burn you for trying to play him like that. On the other hand, if he lands with a good QB who will trust him and throw into tight windows, those hands could make him fantasy gold right away.

You haven't been watching the same Green I have. He has unquestioned wheels. And at 6'4 212 is plenty big enough to fight off jams. Add a few pounds in the offseason and he is very similar to Andre.

Well, I've watched every one of his college games (I have UGA alumni in my family), so we're watching the same guy unless you play flag football with him. We just have different opinions. I'm not sitting here with the coaches film either and memory is far from perfect.BTW, if you pulled those measurements from the UGA athletic department you can usually subtract a little off--they almost always exaggerate. He doesn't look 6'4", 212 on my TV, but I'm just looking at him compared to the other guys on the field and college players are getting bigger and bigger.

Secondly, regardless of what he weighs I would say his game in college is not physical (I've never looked at him and thought 'Andre Johnson'). I think his 40 time will be fine, but not elite. My point was that it looks like Green will have a few weaknesses when he comes into the league that may be exploited by veteran CBs and defensive coordinators, and, especially since he's likely to be on a bad team, it wouldn't shock me for him to struggle a little out of the gate. In the long run expect him to be a very good to elite NFL WR.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Isnt AJ a 4.5 40 guy? not that thats bad but ur talking about 4.3 guys in Randy, AJ and Calvin.

Thats the least of my concerns to be honest. Fitz and Dez are not blazers. On the whole I think 40 time is incredibly overrated as far as receivers go. Give me someone that can run good routes, can go up and get the ball and has good hands.

I agree with you but Dez and Fitz also have strength that AJ doesnt. I think hes a great prospect but as far as physical ability i think hes a tier below those guys. Id put him in the Crabtree category.

...I would be very surprised if he runs under a 4.55. He does have great hands, but so did BMW.He seems to go down pretty easily on first contact too. I'm just not sure how hes going to do against pro corners ...I remember watching the OK state vs. Georgia game a two years ago(for Dez Bryant purposes) and Perrish Cox completely shut him down. Is he a solid WR? yes he is. Could he be elite in a great situation like roddy white or reggie wayne? yes he could. Is he a Fitz,Andre,Calvin or Dez talent? not in my opinion

So you are basing your evaluation solely off of one game of Green's true freshman season?

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Isnt AJ a 4.5 40 guy? not that thats bad but ur talking about 4.3 guys in Randy, AJ and Calvin.

Thats the least of my concerns to be honest. Fitz and Dez are not blazers. On the whole I think 40 time is incredibly overrated as far as receivers go. Give me someone that can run good routes, can go up and get the ball and has good hands.

I agree with you but Dez and Fitz also have strength that AJ doesnt. I think hes a great prospect but as far as physical ability i think hes a tier below those guys. Id put him in the Crabtree category.

...I would be very surprised if he runs under a 4.55. He does have great hands, but so did BMW.He seems to go down pretty easily on first contact too. I'm just not sure how hes going to do against pro corners ...I remember watching the OK state vs. Georgia game a two years ago(for Dez Bryant purposes) and Perrish Cox completely shut him down. Is he a solid WR? yes he is. Could he be elite in a great situation like roddy white or reggie wayne? yes he could. Is he a Fitz,Andre,Calvin or Dez talent? not in my opinion

So you are basing your evaluation solely off of one game of Green's true freshman season?

lol nice try bud...it was his sophmore year....and to be fair what has he really done in college to be that impressive? a few nice catches but has never gotten over 1000 yards or 10tds. I realize he plays in the SEC but come on. To be fair (before he ever played a down in college) I said he was gonna be a better college player than julio jones. I just think Jones is Built better for the nfl than green and will make a better NFL WR. Has the potential to be a good wr not elite.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Thats the least of my concerns to be honest. Fitz and Dez are not blazers. On the whole I think 40 time is incredibly overrated as far as receivers go. Give me someone that can run good routes, can go up and get the ball and has good hands.

I agree with you but Dez and Fitz also have strength that AJ doesnt. I think hes a great prospect but as far as physical ability i think hes a tier below those guys. Id put him in the Crabtree category.

...I would be very surprised if he runs under a 4.55. He does have great hands, but so did BMW.He seems to go down pretty easily on first contact too. I'm just not sure how hes going to do against pro corners ...I remember watching the OK state vs. Georgia game a two years ago(for Dez Bryant purposes) and Perrish Cox completely shut him down. Is he a solid WR? yes he is. Could he be elite in a great situation like roddy white or reggie wayne? yes he could. Is he a Fitz,Andre,Calvin or Dez talent? not in my opinion

So you are basing your evaluation solely off of one game of Green's true freshman season?

lol nice try bud...it was his sophmore year....and to be fair what has he really done in college to be that impressive? a few nice catches but has never gotten over 1000 yards or 10tds. I realize he plays in the SEC but come on. To be fair (before he ever played a down in college) I said he was gonna be a better college player than julio jones. I just think Jones is Built better for the nfl than green and will make a better NFL WR. Has the potential to be a good wr not elite.

He is a junior this year, so two years before that would be his freshman season. I guess you meant last year though. Stats aren't everything when it comes to college receivers. How is he supposed to put up 1000+ yards and 10+ TDs when he can only get around 50 catches a year? Although since he missed 4 games this season, his stats from 8 games projected out to a whole season would be 73/1156/13.

 

[GeauxTigers]

You cats might want to throw Dwayne Bowe in Calvin Johnson's category now.

 

[steelcityman]

The Rams unfortunately may win too many games to draft him.

If the Rams desire a WR, this is the year to do it, trade down, get someone like Floyd or Baldwin in the later parts of the first round, try to get an extra 2nd or 3rd rd pick.There are a lot of WRs in the draft, big, strong, fast guys. Will have to wait until underclassmen come out to see how many there are. If NFL still looks like a strike is possible, these kids may think twice if it means not playing any ball, compared to going to school one more year.

 

[Childress]

But the rams are going to sign vincent jackson this offseason

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

You cats might want to throw Dwayne Bowe in Calvin Johnson's category now.

Bowe has shown a lot and I have him up in the top 10 now, but he isn't going to come close to Calvin in my or likely anyone elses rankings

 

[todisco1]

Does anyone have Julio Jones close to AJ Green? I love Green but think Jones is incredible as well - I think these two guys are close.

 

[Concept Coop]

lol nice try bud...it was his sophmore year....and to be fair what has he really done in college to be that impressive? a few nice catches but has never gotten over 1000 yards or 10tds. I realize he plays in the SEC but come on. To be fair (before he ever played a down in college) I said he was gonna be a better college player than julio jones. I just think Jones is Built better for the nfl than green and will make a better NFL WR. Has the potential to be a good wr not elite.

I know this is old, but you can't be serious. What has he done? 4.55? No potential to be great? A few nice catches?I know Green looks thin - he is. But he is plenty strong. He uses his hands well and was never pushed around. He breaks tackles, has a mean stiff arm, can catch in traffic... What do you base your opinion of him on, aside from looking at him and pretending to know what he can and can't do with his body?Do you think that EVERYONE: scouts, pundits, mock draft sites, fans, coaches...everyone that has this kid ranked in the top 5 - and everyone does - is simpy wrong? They simply never asked themselves: "What has he done, aside from 'a few nice catches?'"

 

[Clarence the barber]

lol nice try bud...it was his sophmore year....and to be fair what has he really done in college to be that impressive? a few nice catches but has never gotten over 1000 yards or 10tds. I realize he plays in the SEC but come on. To be fair (before he ever played a down in college) I said he was gonna be a better college player than julio jones. I just think Jones is Built better for the nfl than green and will make a better NFL WR. Has the potential to be a good wr not elite.

I know this is old, but you can't be serious. What has he done? 4.55? No potential to be great? A few nice catches?I know Green looks thin - he is. But he is plenty strong. He uses his hands well and was never pushed around. He breaks tackles, has a mean stiff arm, can catch in traffic... What do you base your opinion of him on, aside from looking at him and pretending to know what he can and can't do with his body?

Yeah. I won't say I'm an expert on Greene, but I've watched about 15 of his games, which is a fair amount, considering he's only played in about 20 or so. What stands out to me:He has tremendous body control and presence on the field.He has an exceptional stiff arm. Perhaps it's just surprising coming from a thin looking guy, but it's impressive.He needs to make his pushoffs more subtle.He doesn't take running plays off.Fights though tackles.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

lol nice try bud...it was his sophmore year....and to be fair what has he really done in college to be that impressive? a few nice catches but has never gotten over 1000 yards or 10tds. I realize he plays in the SEC but come on. To be fair (before he ever played a down in college) I said he was gonna be a better college player than julio jones. I just think Jones is Built better for the nfl than green and will make a better NFL WR. Has the potential to be a good wr not elite.

I know this is old, but you can't be serious. What has he done? 4.55? No potential to be great? A few nice catches?I know Green looks thin - he is. But he is plenty strong. He uses his hands well and was never pushed around. He breaks tackles, has a mean stiff arm, can catch in traffic... What do you base your opinion of him on, aside from looking at him and pretending to know what he can and can't do with his body?

Yeah. I won't say I'm an expert on Greene, but I've watched about 15 of his games, which is a fair amount, considering he's only played in about 20 or so. What stands out to me:He has tremendous body control and presence on the field.

He has an exceptional stiff arm. Perhaps it's just surprising coming from a thin looking guy, but it's impressive.

He needs to make his pushoffs more subtle.

He doesn't take running plays off.

Fights though tackles.

lol clearly...spell his name right

 

[Concept Coop]

lol clearly...spell his name right

Spelling his name wrong is less embarrassing than claiming he doesn't have the potential to be elite and will run a 4.55.

 

[Clarence the barber]

lol clearly...spell his name right

Spelling his name wrong is less embarrassing than claiming he doesn't have the potential to be elite and will run a 4.55.

I wouldn't really pay attention to that guy. I think it's natural to try to find flaws in Green. People have been trying to find flaws in all front runners. It's been happening for years.

 

[zed2283]

 

[T.Rex]

lol nice try bud...it was his sophmore year....and to be fair what has he really done in college to be that impressive? a few nice catches but has never gotten over 1000 yards or 10tds. I realize he plays in the SEC but come on. To be fair (before he ever played a down in college) I said he was gonna be a better college player than julio jones. I just think Jones is Built better for the nfl than green and will make a better NFL WR. Has the potential to be a good wr not elite.

I know this is old, but you can't be serious. What has he done? 4.55? No potential to be great? A few nice catches?I know Green looks thin - he is. But he is plenty strong. He uses his hands well and was never pushed around. He breaks tackles, has a mean stiff arm, can catch in traffic... What do you base your opinion of him on, aside from looking at him and pretending to know what he can and can't do with his body?

Yeah. I won't say I'm an expert on Greene, but I've watched about 15 of his games, which is a fair amount, considering he's only played in about 20 or so. What stands out to me:He has tremendous body control and presence on the field.

He has an exceptional stiff arm. Perhaps it's just surprising coming from a thin looking guy, but it's impressive.

He needs to make his pushoffs more subtle.

He doesn't take running plays off.

Fights though tackles.

lol clearly...spell his name right

Nice rubuttal. Clearly your correct as you have spelled his name correctly.....

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

What are the concerns with AJ Green? I have a couple of questions/concerns.....hopefully someone can help me put these concerns to rest before draft day, because I now own the 1.01. Please help.

1) He is tall, but lanky. He only weighs 210 lbs.....and by looking at him, it seems that his frame can't add on more than another 5-10 lbs. Is AJ going to be too skinny for the NFL?

2) AJ reportedly runs around a 4.5 forty. Is that fast enough to become elite? I know he has a quick acceleration, but I'd be more feel more comfortable if he ran around a 4.4.

What if Julio runs a 4.39 like it was recently reported that he did. Julio is the same height, weighs 10 lbs more already, and has a bigger frame than AJ. I know his hands are not as good.....but why is Green rated higher than Jones?? Is it insane to take Julio over AJ?

 

[Clarence the barber]

What are the concerns with AJ Green? I have a couple of questions/concerns.....hopefully someone can help me put these concerns to rest before draft day, because I now own the 1.01. Please help.1) He is tall, but lanky. He only weighs 210 lbs.....and by looking at him, it seems that his frame can't add on more than another 5-10 lbs. Is AJ going to be too skinny for the NFL?2) AJ reportedly runs around a 4.5 forty. Is that fast enough to become elite? I know he has a quick acceleration, but I'd be more feel more comfortable if he ran around a 4.4.What if Julio runs a 4.39 like it was recently reported that he did. Julio is the same height, weighs 10 lbs more already, and has a bigger frame than AJ. I know his hands are not as good.....but why is Green rated higher than Jones?? Is it insane to take Julio over AJ?

1) If you are asking about his ability to get off of a jam - I've seen a number of his games and it seems he hasn't had much of a chance to prove that, since everyone plays well off of him. He's not afraid to engage in defenders though. He's confident in his stiff arm. Not to draw direct comparisons, but other WRs with his ht/wt played well. Cris Carter was 6'3", 210 or so. But yeah, the dude looks skinny. He doesn't play skinny.2) Not worried at all. He makes SEC defenders look slower than him. I dont know if he will be the fastest guy on the field, but he can get open. And he can catch the ball. I don't know how fast everyone runs in shorts and a t-shirt, but if he only runs a 4.5, then he carries his pads a hell of a lot better than most. Now if Julio runs a 4.39, that will be pretty damned impressive considering how big he is. I haven't watched much of him though.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

What are the concerns with AJ Green? I have a couple of questions/concerns.....hopefully someone can help me put these concerns to rest before draft day, because I now own the 1.01. Please help.1) He is tall, but lanky. He only weighs 210 lbs.....and by looking at him, it seems that his frame can't add on more than another 5-10 lbs. Is AJ going to be too skinny for the NFL?2) AJ reportedly runs around a 4.5 forty. Is that fast enough to become elite? I know he has a quick acceleration, but I'd be more feel more comfortable if he ran around a 4.4.What if Julio runs a 4.39 like it was recently reported that he did. Julio is the same height, weighs 10 lbs more already, and has a bigger frame than AJ. I know his hands are not as good.....but why is Green rated higher than Jones?? Is it insane to take Julio over AJ?

1) If you are asking about his ability to get off of a jam - I've seen a number of his games and it seems he hasn't had much of a chance to prove that, since everyone plays well off of him. He's not afraid to engage in defenders though. He's confident in his stiff arm. Not to draw direct comparisons, but other WRs with his ht/wt played well. Cris Carter was 6'3", 210 or so. But yeah, the dude looks skinny. He doesn't play skinny.2) Not worried at all. He makes SEC defenders look slower than him. I dont know if he will be the fastest guy on the field, but he can get open. And he can catch the ball. I don't know how fast everyone runs in shorts and a t-shirt, but if he only runs a 4.5, then he carries his pads a hell of a lot better than most. Now if Julio runs a 4.39, that will be pretty damned impressive considering how big he is. I haven't watched much of him though.

Thanks for the insight. It makes me feel quite a bit better. I have heard that Green has a much better work ethic than Jones does.....which is a big deal IMO.

 

[Clarence the barber]

What are the concerns with AJ Green? I have a couple of questions/concerns.....hopefully someone can help me put these concerns to rest before draft day, because I now own the 1.01. Please help.1) He is tall, but lanky. He only weighs 210 lbs.....and by looking at him, it seems that his frame can't add on more than another 5-10 lbs. Is AJ going to be too skinny for the NFL?2) AJ reportedly runs around a 4.5 forty. Is that fast enough to become elite? I know he has a quick acceleration, but I'd be more feel more comfortable if he ran around a 4.4.What if Julio runs a 4.39 like it was recently reported that he did. Julio is the same height, weighs 10 lbs more already, and has a bigger frame than AJ. I know his hands are not as good.....but why is Green rated higher than Jones?? Is it insane to take Julio over AJ?

1) If you are asking about his ability to get off of a jam - I've seen a number of his games and it seems he hasn't had much of a chance to prove that, since everyone plays well off of him. He's not afraid to engage in defenders though. He's confident in his stiff arm. Not to draw direct comparisons, but other WRs with his ht/wt played well. Cris Carter was 6'3", 210 or so. But yeah, the dude looks skinny. He doesn't play skinny.2) Not worried at all. He makes SEC defenders look slower than him. I dont know if he will be the fastest guy on the field, but he can get open. And he can catch the ball. I don't know how fast everyone runs in shorts and a t-shirt, but if he only runs a 4.5, then he carries his pads a hell of a lot better than most. Now if Julio runs a 4.39, that will be pretty damned impressive considering how big he is. I haven't watched much of him though.

Thanks for the insight. It makes me feel quite a bit better. I have heard that Green has a much better work ethic than Jones does.....which is a big deal IMO.

If I had the 1.01 in a PPR rookie draft happening right now, I'd take Green and not give it additional thought. I think he's going to be a star and that's independent of what team drafts him.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

What are the concerns with AJ Green? I have a couple of questions/concerns.....hopefully someone can help me put these concerns to rest before draft day, because I now own the 1.01. Please help.1) He is tall, but lanky. He only weighs 210 lbs.....and by looking at him, it seems that his frame can't add on more than another 5-10 lbs. Is AJ going to be too skinny for the NFL?2) AJ reportedly runs around a 4.5 forty. Is that fast enough to become elite? I know he has a quick acceleration, but I'd be more feel more comfortable if he ran around a 4.4.What if Julio runs a 4.39 like it was recently reported that he did. Julio is the same height, weighs 10 lbs more already, and has a bigger frame than AJ. I know his hands are not as good.....but why is Green rated higher than Jones?? Is it insane to take Julio over AJ?

1) If you are asking about his ability to get off of a jam - I've seen a number of his games and it seems he hasn't had much of a chance to prove that, since everyone plays well off of him. He's not afraid to engage in defenders though. He's confident in his stiff arm. Not to draw direct comparisons, but other WRs with his ht/wt played well. Cris Carter was 6'3", 210 or so. But yeah, the dude looks skinny. He doesn't play skinny.2) Not worried at all. He makes SEC defenders look slower than him. I dont know if he will be the fastest guy on the field, but he can get open. And he can catch the ball. I don't know how fast everyone runs in shorts and a t-shirt, but if he only runs a 4.5, then he carries his pads a hell of a lot better than most. Now if Julio runs a 4.39, that will be pretty damned impressive considering how big he is. I haven't watched much of him though.

Thanks for the insight. It makes me feel quite a bit better. I have heard that Green has a much better work ethic than Jones does.....which is a big deal IMO.

If I had the 1.01 in a PPR rookie draft happening right now, I'd take Green and not give it additional thought. I think he's going to be a star and that's independent of what team drafts him.

+1 I have the 1.01 and unless someone comes up with a top 10 WR to go after Ingram, I am taking Green and running...

 

[Redmen62]

What are the concerns with AJ Green? I have a couple of questions/concerns.....hopefully someone can help me put these concerns to rest before draft day, because I now own the 1.01. Please help.

1) He is tall, but lanky. He only weighs 210 lbs.....and by looking at him, it seems that his frame can't add on more than another 5-10 lbs. Is AJ going to be too skinny for the NFL?

2) AJ reportedly runs around a 4.5 forty. Is that fast enough to become elite? I know he has a quick acceleration, but I'd be more feel more comfortable if he ran around a 4.4.

What if Julio runs a 4.39 like it was recently reported that he did. Julio is the same height, weighs 10 lbs more already, and has a bigger frame than AJ. I know his hands are not as good.....but why is Green rated higher than Jones?? Is it insane to take Julio over AJ?

I'd be surprised if he's a legitimate 210. He looks around 195-200 to me, depending on his exact height.http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/...01/aj-green.JPG

http://www.accessnorthga.com/img/stories/2...ga-aj_green.jpg

 

[Blackjacks]

What are the concerns with AJ Green? I have a couple of questions/concerns.....hopefully someone can help me put these concerns to rest before draft day, because I now own the 1.01. Please help.1) He is tall, but lanky. He only weighs 210 lbs.....and by looking at him, it seems that his frame can't add on more than another 5-10 lbs. Is AJ going to be too skinny for the NFL?2) AJ reportedly runs around a 4.5 forty. Is that fast enough to become elite? I know he has a quick acceleration, but I'd be more feel more comfortable if he ran around a 4.4.What if Julio runs a 4.39 like it was recently reported that he did. Julio is the same height, weighs 10 lbs more already, and has a bigger frame than AJ. I know his hands are not as good.....but why is Green rated higher than Jones?? Is it insane to take Julio over AJ?

1) If you are asking about his ability to get off of a jam - I've seen a number of his games and it seems he hasn't had much of a chance to prove that, since everyone plays well off of him. He's not afraid to engage in defenders though. He's confident in his stiff arm. Not to draw direct comparisons, but other WRs with his ht/wt played well. Cris Carter was 6'3", 210 or so. But yeah, the dude looks skinny. He doesn't play skinny.2) Not worried at all. He makes SEC defenders look slower than him. I dont know if he will be the fastest guy on the field, but he can get open. And he can catch the ball. I don't know how fast everyone runs in shorts and a t-shirt, but if he only runs a 4.5, then he carries his pads a hell of a lot better than most. Now if Julio runs a 4.39, that will be pretty damned impressive considering how big he is. I haven't watched much of him though.

Thanks for the insight. It makes me feel quite a bit better. I have heard that Green has a much better work ethic than Jones does.....which is a big deal IMO.

If I had the 1.01 in a PPR rookie draft happening right now, I'd take Green and not give it additional thought. I think he's going to be a star and that's independent of what team drafts him.

+1 I have the 1.01 and unless someone comes up with a top 10 WR to go after Ingram, I am taking Green and running...

Sometimes numbers lie. This year the combine numbers might lead people to believe Julio is the better prospect but when you watch the two catch the ball (you know, what they do for a living) there is no comparison.....and I like Julio. Green has great hands and runs great routes as where Julio is more of a talent an dis a little less than green in these 2 HUGE depts. I will take above average hands over freakish workout numbers all day long.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Anyone know AJ's reported vertical vs. Julio's?

 

[Sabertooth]

Looks a lot like Plaxico Burress.

 

[JPeso]

Isnt AJ a 4.5 40 guy? not that thats bad but ur talking about 4.3 guys in Randy, AJ and Calvin.

Thats the least of my concerns to be honest. Fitz and Dez are not blazers. On the whole I think 40 time is incredibly overrated as far as receivers go. Give me someone that can run good routes, can go up and get the ball and has good hands.

I agree with you but Dez and Fitz also have strength that AJ doesnt. I think hes a great prospect but as far as physical ability i think hes a tier below those guys. Id put him in the Crabtree category.

Fitzgerald got A LOT stronger once he got to the league in put in hard work in the weight room. He wasn't as thin as AJ in at PIT, but it's worth noting. With that said, guys, I don't think comparisons to physical WRs like Dez and Fitz are really adequate.

 

[JPeso]

Anyone know AJ's reported vertical vs. Julio's?

30 vs. 41 in high school, not sure now.

 

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

Anyone know AJ's reported vertical vs. Julio's?

30 vs. 41 in high school, not sure now.

30 inches was all for AJ? 30 inches seems weak. It seems like he jumps higher than that from the tape. I know I shouldn't just look at the numbers.....there is a hell of a lot more that goes into making a WR great than numbers....but I wished AJ's numbers were closer to Julio's. I am sure we will find out more at the Combine. I assume both AJ and Julio will be going?? Sometimes the best players don't attend the Combine.

 

[gump]

I have heard that Green has a much better work ethic than Jones does.....which is a big deal IMO.

Where did you hear this? Julio was Saban's pet...not only for his talent, but also his work ethic and leadership. And Julio was in Arizona working out with specialists within a few days after declaring for the draft.

 

[cvnpoka]

lol 30 inch vertical being weak.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Anyone know AJ's reported vertical vs. Julio's?

30 vs. 41 in high school, not sure now.

30 inches was all for AJ? 30 inches seems weak. It seems like he jumps higher than that from the tape. I know I shouldn't just look at the numbers.....there is a hell of a lot more that goes into making a WR great than numbers....but I wished AJ's numbers were closer to Julio's. I am sure we will find out more at the Combine. I assume both AJ and Julio will be going?? Sometimes the best players don't attend the Combine.

Watch the tape on Green. Who cares what some combine numbers say? When the ball is anywhere near him he ends up with it.

 

[Shutout]

Fitzgerald got A LOT stronger once he got to the league in put in hard work in the weight room. He wasn't as thin as AJ in at PIT, but it's worth noting. With that said, guys, I don't think comparisons to physical WRs like Dez and Fitz are really adequate.

The one thing that was always apparently different with Fitz from day 1 was his hands. It wouldn't have mattered if he was shorter, slower, or anything else; if you ever watched him in college you could see he had that "it" factor when it came to getting that ball.I don't see AJ or Julio as similar. In the last 12 years or so, I have seen 4 player who I thought "holy crap...that's different"Moss, Fitz, calvin, and Crabtree. All for different reasons but they had something you can't measure or buy. I think AJ or Julio can be Maclin, Steve Smith, or that type of player but a lot more depends on the situation they end up in and how they develop moreso than these great WRs that came before them.

 

[Shutout]

Do you think that EVERYONE: scouts, pundits, mock draft sites, fans, coaches...everyone that has this kid ranked in the top 5 - and everyone does - is simpy wrong? They simply never asked themselves: "What has he done, aside from 'a few nice catches?'"

Gotta be careful with that line of thought. EVERYONE said Manning and Leaf were a coin flip difference. Just because these guys DO the job for a living doesn't mean they are always right.

 

[Shutout]

again...aj green is no calvin andre or fitz... hes just not

Todd McShay says he's the most complete WR prospect to enter the draft since Calvin Johnson.



Mel Kiper has him as the second or third pick in the draft. He said that Green is an immense talent and noted that when you look at all the attributes that go into being an outstanding, Pro Bowl caliber feature receiver in the NFL, Green has them all.

That's good enough for me.

Its hard to take Mel serious anymore when he said Clausen was the best qb in the draft and it wasnt close. I am not sure what he saw after 3 years at ND but Clausen is a borderline NFL backup.

Mike Mayock, who I think is no doubt the best in the business and gets a TON right had claussen as the #2. All these guys do a really good job when you consider their body of work; you just have to understand in what terms they are talking. By and large, they aren't speaking to us with FF in mind. And...sometimes...they are just wrong.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Fitzgerald got A LOT stronger once he got to the league in put in hard work in the weight room. He wasn't as thin as AJ in at PIT, but it's worth noting. With that said, guys, I don't think comparisons to physical WRs like Dez and Fitz are really adequate.

The one thing that was always apparently different with Fitz from day 1 was his hands. It wouldn't have mattered if he was shorter, slower, or anything else; if you ever watched him in college you could see he had that "it" factor when it came to getting that ball.I don't see AJ or Julio as similar. In the last 12 years or so, I have seen 4 player who I thought "holy crap...that's different"Moss, Fitz, calvin, and Crabtree. All for different reasons but they had something you can't measure or buy. I think AJ or Julio can be Maclin, Steve Smith, or that type of player but a lot more depends on the situation they end up in and how they develop moreso than these great WRs that came before them.

Not to hi-jack, but you can't be serious with the Crabtree reference...

 

[Concept Coop]

The one thing that was always apparently different with Fitz from day 1 was his hands. It wouldn't have mattered if he was shorter, slower, or anything else; if you ever watched him in college you could see he had that "it" factor when it came to getting that ball.

This is hyperbole. Lots of players have great hands, and hands alone do very little. Larry was the best in college and is one of the best in the NFL, not simply because of his hands. We all know why Larry is great, so I won't go into it. I'll simply say that A.J. Green has great hands too.

I don't see AJ or Julio as similar. In the last 12 years or so, I have seen 4 player who I thought "holy crap...that's different"Moss, Fitz, calvin, and Crabtree. All for different reasons but they had something you can't measure or buy.

What is it that they had that you can't "measure or buy?" That is nothing more than saying you had a gut feeling. No disrespect, but who are you that we should trust your gut? The thing that people are missing: the experts, the people paid to be in the know, say that Green is an elite prospect. The people with the resources of an ESPN, the people with film and not Youtube highlights or game recordings that follow the ball, say Green is an elite prospect.

I think AJ or Julio can be Maclin, Steve Smith, or that type of player but a lot more depends on the situation they end up in and how they develop more so than these great WRs that came before them.

I don't know what to say here. You throw out comparisons to the "greats that came before", then use names that don't make any sense: Maclin? Smith? Neither Maclin or Smith had the physical tools that Jones and Green posses - their games are nothing alike. If you are trying to put a cap on Green's potential, especially by using a guy like Smith, who simply doesn't have the physical tools, you are missing something.