Acquiring the #1 pick in a redraft (1 Viewer)

[Evilgrin 72]

The guy in my redraft league has approached me (as I have a rep for being the guy most likely to deal draft picks) about dealing the #1 pick. He hasn't given any parameters for a deal yet - I have the 5 hole.

Pick value calculator has the following as a perfect deal 2495-2495 :

#1 and #48 (his 1st and 4th rounders) for

#5 and #29 (my 1st and 3rd rounders)

I get the feeling he will likely want more. I think he's probably going to want my 1st and 2nd rounders (#5 and #20) for the #1 and a later round pick, like a 7th/8th rounder.

What would you give up to get LT2?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

No opinions on the value of the #1 pick this year? What I'm really trying to do here is guage the value of #1 overall in this draft, where there's a clear-cut #1 choice, as opposed to, say, last year, where Tomlinson, Johnson, and Alexander all went #1 in many drafts.

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

I am doing this...I have the 9th overall pick...He has #1 in a 14 team league...we only have to start 1 RB but can have up to 3 with the two flex positions...anyway trade goes like this in a double snake draft...

I get #1 overall and #43 overall...along with my usual spots of #34 and #51 thru the first 4 rounds

He gets #9 overall and #20 overall and his usual #28 overall and #42 thru the first 4 rounds...

It really sounds good to the LT owner...he gets my #1 and #2 along with his #2 and #3...

I've done a ton of mock drafts and the players I am getting with my 2-3-4 picks are very similar "quality" on my draft board so it makes perfect sense to me anyway...he seems to love the fact that he gets 3 of the top 28...He has a list of 25 guys that he loves and figures he can get all three...Hopefully we meet in the Superbowl and LT lights him up!

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I am doing this...I have the 9th overall pick...He has #1 in a 14 team league...we only have to start 1 RB but can have up to 3 with the two flex positions...anyway trade goes like this in a double snake draft...I get #1 overall and #43 overall...along with my usual spots of #34 and #51 thru the first 4 roundsHe gets #9 overall and #20 overall and his usual #28 overall and #42 thru the first 4 rounds...It really sounds good to the LT owner...he gets my #1 and #2 along with his #2 and #3...I've done a ton of mock drafts and the players I am getting with my 2-3-4 picks are very similar "quality" on my draft board so it makes perfect sense to me anyway...he seems to love the fact that he gets 3 of the top 28...He has a list of 25 guys that he loves and figures he can get all three...Hopefully we meet in the Superbowl and LT lights him up!

So, you traded your first and second for his first and third?

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

I am doing this...I have the 9th overall pick...He has #1 in a 14 team league...we only have to start 1 RB but can have up to 3 with the two flex positions...anyway trade goes like this in a double snake draft...I get #1 overall and #43 overall...along with my usual spots of #34 and #51 thru the first 4 roundsHe gets #9 overall and #20 overall and his usual #28 overall and #42 thru the first 4 rounds...It really sounds good to the LT owner...he gets my #1 and #2 along with his #2 and #3...I've done a ton of mock drafts and the players I am getting with my 2-3-4 picks are very similar "quality" on my draft board so it makes perfect sense to me anyway...he seems to love the fact that he gets 3 of the top 28...He has a list of 25 guys that he loves and figures he can get all three...Hopefully we meet in the Superbowl and LT lights him up!

So, you traded your first and second for his first and third?

My 1st and 2nd for his 1st and 4th...his 3rd and 4th pick are only one pick apart but when I sent the email offering 1 and 2 for 1 and 4...he couldn't accept it fast enough...make sense?

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

I am doing this...I have the 9th overall pick...He has #1 in a 14 team league...we only have to start 1 RB but can have up to 3 with the two flex positions...anyway trade goes like this in a double snake draft...I get #1 overall and #43 overall...along with my usual spots of #34 and #51 thru the first 4 roundsHe gets #9 overall and #20 overall and his usual #28 overall and #42 thru the first 4 rounds...It really sounds good to the LT owner...he gets my #1 and #2 along with his #2 and #3...I've done a ton of mock drafts and the players I am getting with my 2-3-4 picks are very similar "quality" on my draft board so it makes perfect sense to me anyway...he seems to love the fact that he gets 3 of the top 28...He has a list of 25 guys that he loves and figures he can get all three...Hopefully we meet in the Superbowl and LT lights him up!

So, you traded your first and second for his first and third?

My 1st and 2nd for his 1st and 4th...his 3rd and 4th pick are only one pick apart but when I sent the email offering 1 and 2 for 1 and 4...he couldn't accept it fast enough...make sense?

"That's Selling...BABY"

 

[poopdawg]

Not sure about redraft, but I gave up my second (2.05), third (3.12), and my 2007 first round rookie pick to land LT2 in a dynasty. This was at the beginning of last season so his value has risen since then.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I am doing this...I have the 9th overall pick...He has #1 in a 14 team league...we only have to start 1 RB but can have up to 3 with the two flex positions...anyway trade goes like this in a double snake draft...I get #1 overall and #43 overall...along with my usual spots of #34 and #51 thru the first 4 roundsHe gets #9 overall and #20 overall and his usual #28 overall and #42 thru the first 4 rounds...It really sounds good to the LT owner...he gets my #1 and #2 along with his #2 and #3...I've done a ton of mock drafts and the players I am getting with my 2-3-4 picks are very similar "quality" on my draft board so it makes perfect sense to me anyway...he seems to love the fact that he gets 3 of the top 28...He has a list of 25 guys that he loves and figures he can get all three...Hopefully we meet in the Superbowl and LT lights him up!

So, you traded your first and second for his first and third?

My 1st and 2nd for his 1st and 4th...his 3rd and 4th pick are only one pick apart but when I sent the email offering 1 and 2 for 1 and 4...he couldn't accept it fast enough...make sense?

Gotcha - I mis-read 42 as 43 earlier. Not that it makes a big difference... so that's sort of in the same vein as what I was exploring. Interesting.

 

[lions327]

I don't know if there is a price high enough for me to trade LT in a redraft.

 

[G-King]

I don't know if there is a price high enough for me to trade LT in a redraft.

Biabreakable and I were discussing this in the AC a couple of weeks back (see below) but I believe there is a price high enough and I sold. The trade calculator wont figure high enough, but it says I improved by 86%. I guess we'll see:[ QUOTE

(G-King @ Jun 9 2007, 11:12 AM) I replied in a different LT trade post about 6 weeks ago so pardon the repeat,....but in our 12 team redraft w/ IDP I was lucky enough to draw the #1 pick this year (consensus LT). Before the NFL playoffs were over last year and he was at an all time high, I traded my 1.1 pick for his 1.6, 2.7, 3.5 picks and I threw in my irrelevant last 2 picks (rd 17 and 18). This is the most ever given in a pre draft trade in our league, and it should be. LT is a STUD no doubt, but he will not repeat last years 31 td's. I should be looking at 1.6 Westbrook, SA, or Addai 2.7 Henry, Willis, or CJ 3.5 T.Jones, Waynes, or Palmer.... If at the end of the draft I ended up with Westbrook, Magahee, and C.Palmer for LT and 2 scrubs, I like it.Plus I still have my 2.12 and 3.6 to grab a WR1 and RB2(We are PPR

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Based off trades that have been made it is looking like LT's worth is at minimum 2 starting RB (one of which is a RB1) and either a elite QB or elite WR.So my initial offer of Gore + Portis was too low and would need to have either a elite QB or elite WR added to it for the trade to begin to become equitable.

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

The guy that offered me the trade got the #1 pick in both leagues I run...last year he was the last guy out of the hat for both...very weird...anyway he wanted to make the trade just in case LT got hurt and to make the drafts more interesting...I still think I got the better end of the deal but I would have probably done the trade if I were in his shoes...sure if LT does what he did last year it looks bad but either way he should have a great team.

 

[SSOG]

The guy in my redraft league has approached me (as I have a rep for being the guy most likely to deal draft picks) about dealing the #1 pick. He hasn't given any parameters for a deal yet - I have the 5 hole.

Pick value calculator has the following as a perfect deal 2495-2495 :

#1 and #48 (his 1st and 4th rounders) for

#5 and #29 (my 1st and 3rd rounders)

I get the feeling he will likely want more. I think he's probably going to want my 1st and 2nd rounders (#5 and #20) for the #1 and a later round pick, like a 7th/8th rounder.

What would you give up to get LT2?

If this thread is any indication, your opponent is probably going to want your first, second, and third in exchange for his first. If he's even willing to do that.Tomlinson is so ridiculously overvalued right now that it's bordering on ABSURD. Yes, I understand that VBD says that Tomlinson was as good as two top-20 players combined last year, but with the risk involved from year to year, no one should be valued more than a top-10 and top-20 player.

Edit: Good luck, and I hope that the owner in your league is more willing to listen to reason.

 

[Nugget]

I'd give up a mid 1st and a 3rd for Tomlinson and anything, I'd consider my first and 2nd for his 1st and 5th.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The guy in my redraft league has approached me (as I have a rep for being the guy most likely to deal draft picks) about dealing the #1 pick. He hasn't given any parameters for a deal yet - I have the 5 hole. Pick value calculator has the following as a perfect deal 2495-2495 :#1 and #48 (his 1st and 4th rounders) for#5 and #29 (my 1st and 3rd rounders)I get the feeling he will likely want more. I think he's probably going to want my 1st and 2nd rounders (#5 and #20) for the #1 and a later round pick, like a 7th/8th rounder.What would you give up to get LT2?

As a quick guess... #1 should net you about 360 points. #5 should net you about 320.Your 3rd (as a WR or QB) should then need to drop you a good 60 points to make the trade worthy of letting LT2 go.So... a 6th (100) round WR is about 50 points below a 3rd (150) round WR. 1.0 + 7th1.5 + 3rd.

 

[BassNBrew]

What would you give up to get LT2?

My second born and three digit member number.

 

[stevegamer]

The guy in my redraft league has approached me (as I have a rep for being the guy most likely to deal draft picks) about dealing the #1 pick. He hasn't given any parameters for a deal yet - I have the 5 hole. Pick value calculator has the following as a perfect deal 2495-2495 :#1 and #48 (his 1st and 4th rounders) for#5 and #29 (my 1st and 3rd rounders)I get the feeling he will likely want more. I think he's probably going to want my 1st and 2nd rounders (#5 and #20) for the #1 and a later round pick, like a 7th/8th rounder.What would you give up to get LT2?

Most importantly, where do YOU see the tiers breaking? Ideally if 29-48 are roughly the same to you, that's easy. I'd also try and do something involving 3 picks, where you move him up a round later, but it only drops you 6 picks. It looks nice, but isn't likely a major deal.Say, your 1/3/6 for his 1/4/7 if you want LT2.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The guy in my redraft league has approached me (as I have a rep for being the guy most likely to deal draft picks) about dealing the #1 pick. He hasn't given any parameters for a deal yet - I have the 5 hole. Pick value calculator has the following as a perfect deal 2495-2495 :#1 and #48 (his 1st and 4th rounders) for#5 and #29 (my 1st and 3rd rounders)I get the feeling he will likely want more. I think he's probably going to want my 1st and 2nd rounders (#5 and #20) for the #1 and a later round pick, like a 7th/8th rounder.What would you give up to get LT2?

Most importantly, where do YOU see the tiers breaking? Ideally if 29-48 are roughly the same to you, that's easy. I'd also try and do something involving 3 picks, where you move him up a round later, but it only drops you 6 picks. It looks nice, but isn't likely a major deal.Say, your 1/3/6 for his 1/4/7 if you want LT2.

If I had LT that would be even remotley enough. Lose 40 and gain 10 and then 10 more or so?

 

[dparker713]

I just dont see how you can entertain an offer that moves you out of the top 3 for the #1 overall pick. The truly elite backs are the most valueable commodity in FF and Tomlinson is the best bet going to put up truly elite numbers.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Right now, I'm hoping to swap picks in rounds 1&2 and give him my 4th for his 6th or 7th. I'll keep updating this thread as talks progress (or stall)