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ACTIVE SHOOTER WW > D4 > PAV LIVES! (2 Viewers)

Will have limited online time this evening as I have to run and pick up my JEep at a buddy's shop. Somehow managed to shear all three 1/2" thick driver's side motor mount bolts off IN the engine block. Bad Juju. My ninja fabricator/mechanic buddy got em out and got everything bolted right back up good as new for $100. Danka!

Will be running down to Southhaven, MS to pick up the ride and pay him. Looking like 8ish home and settled in, give or take.

Here for another 35 mins or so.

 
Official D3 Vote Tally

13 players remain; 7 Votes needed for a lynch.

Spoofy (2): CYP, BostonFred

bostonfred (1): Veebs*

Yet to vote (10): Pitbull TD, Nathan Jessup, SinnFein, nysfl, wdcrob, Psychopav, strykerpks, Keerock, Spoofy, Slapdash

* Proxies to CYP

 
Psychopav, wdcrob, nysfl

These are the three players who were on Bucky, but not on JTG.

I actually voted JTG, but apparently not until after the Lynch numbers had been reached.
And I would have voted him but I wasn't here.

NYSELF! It must be NYSELF!

:doh:
Don't look at me - I was proxied onto bucky (I've already scolded spoofy for that) and not around for JTG.
How convenient

 
Slapdash said:
Is nysfl an alias or have I just not played with him before?
I generally don't play over here - can't access the site from work. I'm pretty sure I haven't been in a game with you before.

 
Psychopav, wdcrob, nysfl

These are the three players who were on Bucky, but not on JTG.

I actually voted JTG, but apparently not until after the Lynch numbers had been reached.
And I would have voted him but I wasn't here.

NYSELF! It must be NYSELF!

:doh:
Don't look at me - I was proxied onto bucky (I've already scolded spoofy for that) and not around for JTG.
How convenient
:shrug:

 
Official "Mornin, Bitches" D3 Vote Tally

13 players remain; 7 Votes needed for a lynch.

Spoofy (4): CYP, BostonFred, wdcrob, Nathan Jessup

bostonfred (3): Veebs*, Spoofy, nysfl2

Veebs (1): Keerock

Yet to vote (5): Pitbull TD, SinnFein, Psychopav, strykerpks, Slapdash

* Proxies to CYP

 
vote fred

don't think spoofy is bad.

at least one of sinn/jessup likely bad

slap and stryker worry me, too
Do you not believe Hulk protected Sinn? Have an alternate theory going on there?

Jessup and Spoofy are up on my list.
Hulk said he protected Sinn and got killed the following night. It seems more likely to me that he protected himself n1 and was bluffing to keep the BGs from trying again last night, than that he's the rare player who gets outed as an angel on D1 and never tries to protect himself.

We saw missed shots on both nights, with the angel dying last night, and the writeup suggests that it was good for the village that the shotgun missed last night. We know Hulk didn't get a wham last night since he died, so a missed shot doesn't seem to be a wham.

In other words, Sinn is not confirmed whatsoever.

 
vote fred

don't think spoofy is bad.

at least one of sinn/jessup likely bad

slap and stryker worry me, too
Do you not believe Hulk protected Sinn? Have an alternate theory going on there?

Jessup and Spoofy are up on my list.
Hulk said he protected Sinn and got killed the following night. It seems more likely to me that he protected himself n1 and was bluffing to keep the BGs from trying again last night, than that he's the rare player who gets outed as an angel on D1 and never tries to protect himself.

We saw missed shots on both nights, with the angel dying last night, and the writeup suggests that it was good for the village that the shotgun missed last night. We know Hulk didn't get a wham last night since he died, so a missed shot doesn't seem to be a wham.

In other words, Sinn is not confirmed whatsoever.
Unless he got a wham on someone other than himself....you can do that right?

 
vote fred

don't think spoofy is bad.

at least one of sinn/jessup likely bad

slap and stryker worry me, too
Do you not believe Hulk protected Sinn? Have an alternate theory going on there?

Jessup and Spoofy are up on my list.
Hulk said he protected Sinn and got killed the following night. It seems more likely to me that he protected himself n1 and was bluffing to keep the BGs from trying again last night, than that he's the rare player who gets outed as an angel on D1 and never tries to protect himself.

We saw missed shots on both nights, with the angel dying last night, and the writeup suggests that it was good for the village that the shotgun missed last night. We know Hulk didn't get a wham last night since he died, so a missed shot doesn't seem to be a wham.

In other words, Sinn is not confirmed whatsoever.
Speak for yourself. I speak for everyone else when I say, I am a GG.

As for who Hulk protected - I never protect myself N1 if I am an angel.

As for the missed shots - I don't know what they mean. But order of operation does come into play here - generally Angel's moves go among the first - so its possible, though not likely, that Hulk protected someone and was killed the same night.

 
I'm not DOSing you sinn. I'm just refuting the idea that you're confirmed because Hulk said he protected you. We didn't see any evidence of a wham in the writeup, but we did see missed shots on both nights, including the night the angel was killed.

I wasn't really convinced that he was the angel until he came back ggrp. He asked to be smooed an angel role, he claimed angel on d1, which is by far the most common d1 fake claim, and his thing about maybe there are other angels out there struck me as kind of bull####ty, but it worked itself out.

But I disagree with you about never protecting yourself n1. Hulk was outed on d1. He was the only outed ggrp and the most likely kill target. I can believe that he didn't protect himself n1, but then to protect someone else on n2, too? That's pretty ballsy, but if it's true, it didn't work out too good.

 
But I disagree with you about never protecting yourself n1. Hulk was outed on d1. He was the only outed ggrp and the most likely kill target. I can believe that he didn't protect himself n1, but then to protect someone else on n2, too? That's pretty ballsy, but if it's true, it didn't work out too good.
Is it a given the he was able to protect himself?

 
But I disagree with you about never protecting yourself n1. Hulk was outed on d1. He was the only outed ggrp and the most likely kill target. I can believe that he didn't protect himself n1, but then to protect someone else on n2, too? That's pretty ballsy, but if it's true, it didn't work out too good.
Is it a given the he was able to protect himself?
No, but most angels can. I tried to get him to clarify his claim a little, and he said his powers were "pretty standard".

For your benefit, and the other noobs, angels are good guys who can protect people. In most games, that means that you can protect one person per night. Sometimes that protection carries over into the following day but not necessarily. It never protects you from being lynched. And you can't protect the same person on back to back nights, unless someone tries to kill the person you protected, which is what we call a wham. Usually a wham will be written up in the night report, and sometimes, but not always, the angel will know that they had a wham because they can protect the same person again.

Hulk is the kind of guy who works out all those angles, so I would expect him to tell us if that were the case, which he didn't, even though he was acting fairly confident that he'd gotten the wham. That's one of several reasons I think he was bluffing about protecting Sinn on n1. I think he protected himself, and then couldn't protect himself again on n2, so he told the village that he had protected someone else, and made up something about there being more than one angel in case the bad guys had really shot at him on n1 and been whammed. It's a good move imo.

 
But I disagree with you about never protecting yourself n1. Hulk was outed on d1. He was the only outed ggrp and the most likely kill target. I can believe that he didn't protect himself n1, but then to protect someone else on n2, too? That's pretty ballsy, but if it's true, it didn't work out too good.
Is it a given the he was able to protect himself?
No, but most angels can. I tried to get him to clarify his claim a little, and he said his powers were "pretty standard".

For your benefit, and the other noobs, angels are good guys who can protect people. In most games, that means that you can protect one person per night. Sometimes that protection carries over into the following day but not necessarily. It never protects you from being lynched. And you can't protect the same person on back to back nights, unless someone tries to kill the person you protected, which is what we call a wham. Usually a wham will be written up in the night report, and sometimes, but not always, the angel will know that they had a wham because they can protect the same person again.

Hulk is the kind of guy who works out all those angles, so I would expect him to tell us if that were the case, which he didn't, even though he was acting fairly confident that he'd gotten the wham. That's one of several reasons I think he was bluffing about protecting Sinn on n1. I think he protected himself, and then couldn't protect himself again on n2, so he told the village that he had protected someone else, and made up something about there being more than one angel in case the bad guys had really shot at him on n1 and been whammed. It's a good move imo.
Looks like he was playing rat games to an extent but it's possible that he protected himself N1 and thought he got a wham, then found out that he couldn't protect himself N2 for some reason. If we figure there were 2 wham's on N1, and there may be other angels out there, it's possible that one of them protected him.

 
vote fred

don't think spoofy is bad.

at least one of sinn/jessup likely bad

slap and stryker worry me, too
This feels like gg nyself, and if he's a bg we want him around until later in the game so he can HC. Same goes for Spoofy if they're both BG's.

Jokes aside, nyself has a good feel for stuff so I'm willing to follow him if he moves off of fred. My gut says fred is a gg.

 
But I disagree with you about never protecting yourself n1. Hulk was outed on d1. He was the only outed ggrp and the most likely kill target. I can believe that he didn't protect himself n1, but then to protect someone else on n2, too? That's pretty ballsy, but if it's true, it didn't work out too good.
Is it a given the he was able to protect himself?
No, but most angels can. I tried to get him to clarify his claim a little, and he said his powers were "pretty standard".

For your benefit, and the other noobs, angels are good guys who can protect people. In most games, that means that you can protect one person per night. Sometimes that protection carries over into the following day but not necessarily. It never protects you from being lynched. And you can't protect the same person on back to back nights, unless someone tries to kill the person you protected, which is what we call a wham. Usually a wham will be written up in the night report, and sometimes, but not always, the angel will know that they had a wham because they can protect the same person again.

Hulk is the kind of guy who works out all those angles, so I would expect him to tell us if that were the case, which he didn't, even though he was acting fairly confident that he'd gotten the wham. That's one of several reasons I think he was bluffing about protecting Sinn on n1. I think he protected himself, and then couldn't protect himself again on n2, so he told the village that he had protected someone else, and made up something about there being more than one angel in case the bad guys had really shot at him on n1 and been whammed. It's a good move imo.
Wouldn't Hulk have been a target on N1 after outing himself as GGRP? I guess I just figured it was a given he protected himself.

 
But I disagree with you about never protecting yourself n1. Hulk was outed on d1. He was the only outed ggrp and the most likely kill target. I can believe that he didn't protect himself n1, but then to protect someone else on n2, too? That's pretty ballsy, but if it's true, it didn't work out too good.
Is it a given the he was able to protect himself?
No, but most angels can. I tried to get him to clarify his claim a little, and he said his powers were "pretty standard".

For your benefit, and the other noobs, angels are good guys who can protect people. In most games, that means that you can protect one person per night. Sometimes that protection carries over into the following day but not necessarily. It never protects you from being lynched. And you can't protect the same person on back to back nights, unless someone tries to kill the person you protected, which is what we call a wham. Usually a wham will be written up in the night report, and sometimes, but not always, the angel will know that they had a wham because they can protect the same person again.

Hulk is the kind of guy who works out all those angles, so I would expect him to tell us if that were the case, which he didn't, even though he was acting fairly confident that he'd gotten the wham. That's one of several reasons I think he was bluffing about protecting Sinn on n1. I think he protected himself, and then couldn't protect himself again on n2, so he told the village that he had protected someone else, and made up something about there being more than one angel in case the bad guys had really shot at him on n1 and been whammed. It's a good move imo.
Wouldn't Hulk have been a target on N1 after outing himself as GGRP? I guess I just figured it was a given he protected himself.
That is sort of Fred's point. His theory is that Hulk protected himself N1, but did not get a wham - thus he was unable to protect himself N2. Hulk is smart, and knowing this, said he protected someone else - me (Sinn) - to leave the impression that he was still able to protect himself n2.

Many (ok, most) Angels do protect themselves N1. Usually when you are the angel, you are the only RP you know about by N1. Of course, our GB Greco will tell you that Angels are overrated, which makes protecting yourself N1 overrated, but I digress.

 

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