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Addai and Rhodes (1 Viewer)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
2/3 Addai and 1/3 Rhodes is a good thing because Addai would not then wear down at the end of the year - the time when you're counting on him most.
Just like Taylor is good for Peterson. And Turner was for Tomlinson. And Rice will be for McGahee. Etc. Etc.
Don't fear the RBBC. Embrace it.
Just like Taylor is good for Peterson. And Turner was for Tomlinson. And Rice will be for McGahee. Etc. Etc.
Don't fear the RBBC. Embrace it.
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
It just isnt going to happen.
2 years ago Addai was a way better runner then Rhodes. On an entirely different level. And that was as a rookie.
Rhodes is looking to be an improvement on last years backups, if he can.
2 years ago Addai was a way better runner then Rhodes. On an entirely different level. And that was as a rookie.
Rhodes is looking to be an improvement on last years backups, if he can.
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Jimmy James
Footballguy
As long as Addai is healthy, I think the ceiling for Rhodes is about 20% of the work.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Rhodes will absolutely get some action.
He was very solid in his last stint with the Colts,
and hasn't put on a whole lot of mileage since then.
I also see a 2/3 / 1/3 scenario, or something close.
He was very solid in his last stint with the Colts,
and hasn't put on a whole lot of mileage since then.
I also see a 2/3 / 1/3 scenario, or something close.
JPeso
Footballguy
This is a fair estimate. I don't see Addai being a 300+ touch back. As for the concern, in a redraft, there should be almost none. He will still manage top 10 numbers with fewer touches, especially in PPR leagues. My concern comes in dynasty leagues when his rookie deal expires. If he wants big money, Indy might let him walk, as he really isn't a world-beating talent.
Which is standard for every RB in the NFL.As an Addai owner (which I'm not) I wouldn't be worried at all. A good backup helps him.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
He's signed for 3 more years anyways. Can't see looking out much farther than that in a dynasty for a RB.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Addai will get 20-25 touches/game, just like last year. Whether the backup nets any touches during the game will depend on how many touches the Indy RB's get, there's no RBBC, there wasn't last year either. Oh, and Mike Hart should be the backup heading into the season if he makes it through camp healthy, it wouldn't surprise me actually to see Rhodes a September 1 cut.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Kenton Keith had 500 plus yards last season backing up Addai. If you're talking about something like that, sure it's possible but that won't effect Addai's numbers. He's going to get his and the backups will have to slug it out to see who's going to spell Addai.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Rhodes is solid insurance for Addai & will perform well if anything happens to Addai.
Hart is not a threat to Rhodes in 2008. He's more likely to be on the PS.
Hart is not a threat to Rhodes in 2008. He's more likely to be on the PS.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Hart would not clear waivers, he will not be on the practice squad.
Todem
Footballguy
If there is any perfect argument about a system making a player look better than his skill this is it.100% agree...Addai would fail badly on most teams.
Did anyone watch the NFL Network during the Draft when the commentators gave Addai the nickname of "tap out"? They gave him that name because he would tap his chest to come out after a couple of good runs.
I thought it was funny, but I think they are right. Addai is not a workhorse back, but offers upside so he does not need as many touches.
I thought it was funny, but I think they are right. Addai is not a workhorse back, but offers upside so he does not need as many touches.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Hart will probably be at the end of the bench.I don't see him as a threat to steal carries.MAC_32 said:
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Not sure about that, but he's not a threat for 2008 regardless.MAC_32 said:
switz
Footballguy
I don't think I've ever seen him do that in the NFL. Addai is a team player, and I'm still trying to figure out what's behind all the hate on these boards. Addai is a top-5 NFL RB talent. He does so many things well and makes them all look very easy. Sure he's on a team with a great offense, but last year he ran behind one of the worst OLs and still put up good numbers, while injured. What does the guy need to do?
Really that was more like 13 games. He played about 1 quarter of the Houston game and 1 series of the Titans game at the end of the year.
switz
Footballguy
Yeah, but we all know the naysayers will count it as a full game played if he put his jock strap on that day
It was Jamie Dukes, take it up with him. And, if there is not Addai to the degree you have does not mean hate for him.
switz
Footballguy
Jeff, I can buy people saying a number of things to knock Addai. When I refer to the "hate" he gets on the boards, it's the stubborn refusal to give him ANY credit for his accomplishments that I've seen from numerous people. It's the system, it's his situation, it's Peyton Manning, etc. How many times do people say "he really doesn't have talent"? If he didn't have talent he wouldn't be in the NFL, he wouldn't have been a first round pick by a team that EXCELS in spotting talent.All he has done is break 1,000 yards ever season he played. Yet people are always knocking him. No one wants to give him credit... yet far lesser talents get hyped and hyped and hyped. So, I feel justified in saying there is some definite "hate" for Joseph Addai on these boards. It's not the "if I see him I want to kill him" type of hate, but it's the "I refuse to acknowledge he is any good, and will look for a flaw in everything he does just to knock him down a notch" type of hate.
For example:
Fewer touches? Is that really realistic considering he missed one game and they rested him extensively last season?JPeso said:
Really? Indy makes Addai look so much better than he is that he would "fail badly" on another team?
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I am neither a "hater" or a "bandwagon member" for Addai. He is one guy I am pretty indifferent on. I see his flaws and his good qualities. I think Addai has talent, but there are issues he must overcome. I was impressed he made it through last season without much injury, but I want to see it again. Durability (for a couple of years) and YPC are the major hurdles I want to see him prove. He plays in a good system and has a lot of things going for him.You can say what you want, but Jamie Dukes really did say that. In fact, he went on for at least three minutes ... Dukes is a funny guy and even showed footage.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Hey Switz, Keep in mind that he's only played 2 years, so rushing EVERY year he's played for over 1,000 yards is only so impressive of an argument. He also hasn't rushed for 1100 yards before nor carried the ball 275 or more times in a season. So, it's very likely he's not a 300 a year rusher type back, making me believe that he definately benefits from the system he is in.
There's nothing wrong with that, Roger Craig benefited from being on the 49ers, Emmitt Smith benefited from being on the Cowboys. If people are saying he doesn't have any talent then they just don't know football and it's probably not worth your time in trying to change their mind. I've spent far too many hours of my life arguing about Emmitt Smith and how he was just a product of the "system."
There is no "system" where you become the all time nfl rusher, you have to be a bad ### to be able to do that with all the great athletes that have carried the rock in the NFL.
Addai seems to run strong around the goaline, can catch the ball and he has Peyton Manning's confidence inside the 5 yard line. He benefits from being on a good team just like a lot of other great running backs have in the past. Personally, I'd like to see him get a few more carries to improve his overall yards, that's really my only knock on him so far.
Rhodes was clearly the MVP in the Colts Superbowl victory. Every one in the Colts organization knows it!
His homecoming will provide him with much more opportunity than he has seen in the last few years.
Addia should still be a top five pick, but Rhodes is the single most important handcuff off to a first round player!
His homecoming will provide him with much more opportunity than he has seen in the last few years.
Addia should still be a top five pick, but Rhodes is the single most important handcuff off to a first round player!
