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Addai is the #1 Dynasty RB... (1 Viewer)

stp-d

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If I were in a startup Dynasty league (standard, PPR) and had the #1 pick and I was unable to trade down, I would draft Addai.

1.1 Addai This is the one that you marry and take home to mom!!! He is in the most stable RB situation at this time, with a top QB, very good OL, with no foreseeable change to come. He should be good for 280-300 carries, 1500 total yds, 10-12 total td's, 40-50 rec for the next several years. His contract will probably get restructured in 2009-10. Another RB will get added to the mix, but that will keep Addai fresh for years to come. He is the most stable stud out there.

1.2 Steven Jackson: This one you got engaged too, but let go because of a crazy mother in law and an ever-changing home life. He returned from injury very nicely, but the loss of Bruce & no real upgrades on the offense, leads me to believe that Jackson #'s are less ikely to go up. Will they go down, i don't know, but is upside makes him the best RB out there, but is stability is definately in question.

1.3 Adrian Peterson: This is the smoking young thing that will take you to the highest highs, but you know its just too good to be true. I love this guy, and think he is the most talented RB in the game behind LT, but his legs are in much better shape. He will be a stud for years to come, but a change in QB could effect is play more than many think. If Tavaris is under center, you gotta think most will put 8 in the box, and AP will have more off days than he did in 2007. However he did run through 8 man fronts i 2007. Still I want a better QB.

1.4 LT: This one is the mature hotty that will help you out in the short term, but you just know that butt is gonna get huge sooner than later. He is the man. However his injured knee makes me nervous and he has had 300+ carries for 7 years. Do I want to build my team around a monster who may go back into the closet sooner than later? Not me!!!

What do you think?

 
Not for me, not close. Don't think he's as talented as the other top guys and don't think he'll ever see more than 300 carries which will limit his upside.

 
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.

 
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Here's where the player's environment really matters.

I'm not a believer in Addai's talent as being the sole reason that he is so effective. Peyton Manning is one reason - the defense must respect the pass by a huge margin, which opens up alot of opportunities for Addai.

Second, he's not as durable as some other RBs.

Third, and possibly most important - history. Edge was sent packing when he wanted big money. Addai is CHEAP right now and he signed a relatively bad deal (5 years instead of 3 or 4, $11.65M) that keeps him in the lower end of the RB payscale. I'd bet that he tries to hold out after one year and creates a contract issue. He is signed through 2010 but the numbers are really low:

2008: $603K

2009: $713K

2010: $1.314M

So if you are buying high on Addai as your #1 overall, you believe that he'll be durable and the Colts #1 RB for the next 3 years. I don't think that will happen.

I wouldn't be surprised at all for the Colts to add another RB to their stable and create yet another NFL RBBC.

 
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
and who says EBF and I never agree..... :goodposting:
 
I'd rather draft my dynasty RB based on talent rather than his current situation. Heck, it was only a few years ago that Tatum Bell was creeping up dynasty lists because he was a Denver RB. He even made the cover of some FF magazines! :excited:

 
If I were in a startup Dynasty league (standard, PPR) and had the #1 pick and I was unable to trade down, I would draft Addai.

1.1 Addai This is the one that you marry and take home to mom!!! He is in the most stable RB situation at this time, with a top QB, very good OL, with no foreseeable change to come. He should be good for 280-300 carries, 1500 total yds, 10-12 total td's, 40-50 rec for the next several years. His contract will probably get restructured in 2009-10. Another RB will get added to the mix, but that will keep Addai fresh for years to come. He is the most stable stud out there.
He's certainly top 5 (maybe #3) but I'd much rather have Jackson or Peterson. I think you made a big leap to 1500 yards from his 1000 yards in each of his first 2 seasons.
 
Never been a big fan of his talent (yeah, he was a 1st rounder, but he was also the 4th RB off the board and the Colts had to have a RB after releasing Edge.) He landed in the mother of all situations to land in, but to paraphrase EBF, I would be wary of a less talented guy in a good situation. They tend to be expendable and easily replaceable if they ever start to falter.

That being said, I have him in my 5~7 range, probably #5.

 
BuckeyeArt said:
stp-d said:
If I were in a startup Dynasty league (standard, PPR) and had the #1 pick and I was unable to trade down, I would draft Addai.

1.1 Addai This is the one that you marry and take home to mom!!! He is in the most stable RB situation at this time, with a top QB, very good OL, with no foreseeable change to come. He should be good for 280-300 carries, 1500 total yds, 10-12 total td's, 40-50 rec for the next several years. His contract will probably get restructured in 2009-10. Another RB will get added to the mix, but that will keep Addai fresh for years to come. He is the most stable stud out there.
He's certainly top 5 (maybe #3) but I'd much rather have Jackson or Peterson. I think you made a big leap to 1500 yards from his 1000 yards in each of his first 2 seasons.
1500 total yards
 
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BuckeyeArt said:
stp-d said:
If I were in a startup Dynasty league (standard, PPR) and had the #1 pick and I was unable to trade down, I would draft Addai.

1.1 Addai This is the one that you marry and take home to mom!!! He is in the most stable RB situation at this time, with a top QB, very good OL, with no foreseeable change to come. He should be good for 280-300 carries, 1500 total yds, 10-12 total td's, 40-50 rec for the next several years. His contract will probably get restructured in 2009-10. Another RB will get added to the mix, but that will keep Addai fresh for years to come. He is the most stable stud out there.
He's certainly top 5 (maybe #3) but I'd much rather have Jackson or Peterson. I think you made a big leap to 1500 yards from his 1000 yards in each of his first 2 seasons.
1500 total yards
1500 total yards is not #1 material no matter how safe.
 
BuckeyeArt said:
stp-d said:
If I were in a startup Dynasty league (standard, PPR) and had the #1 pick and I was unable to trade down, I would draft Addai.

1.1 Addai This is the one that you marry and take home to mom!!! He is in the most stable RB situation at this time, with a top QB, very good OL, with no foreseeable change to come. He should be good for 280-300 carries, 1500 total yds, 10-12 total td's, 40-50 rec for the next several years. His contract will probably get restructured in 2009-10. Another RB will get added to the mix, but that will keep Addai fresh for years to come. He is the most stable stud out there.
He's certainly top 5 (maybe #3) but I'd much rather have Jackson or Peterson. I think you made a big leap to 1500 yards from his 1000 yards in each of his first 2 seasons.
1500 total yards
Rice,You think 1500 total yards and 10-12 TD's will put Addai as the #1 RB in FF........sorry but those numbers will be well short of that goal

 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:banned: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:rant: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :no:

 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:goodposting: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :lol:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.

 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:goodposting: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :lol:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:goodposting: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :lol:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
Elite - better than most others.What's your definition?

 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:eek: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :D
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
Elite - better than most others.What's your definition?
Addai IS better than most others... that's not measured by # of 20+ yard runs.
 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:eek: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :D
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
2007 Games 9-16125 carries, 411 yds, 3.3 ypc, 5 TDs --- 11.1 fantasy ppg

You have a very strange definition of elite.

ETA-- His highest rushing yards in a game from weeks 10-19 was 72 yds.

 
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EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:goodposting: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :lol:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
2007 Games 9-16125 carries, 411 yds, 3.3 ypc, 5 TDs --- 11.1 fantasy ppg

You have a very strange definition of elite.

ETA-- His highest rushing yards in a game from weeks 10-19 was 72 yds.
Yep, he had a bad second half. That still doesn't mean he's not elite. He had injury issues from week 4 onward that he struggled with. The team was rotating the OL. The team had numerous injury issues, and were not even running the ball that often. And Addai still manage 10+ points per game.
 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:goodposting: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :lol:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
2007 Games 9-16125 carries, 411 yds, 3.3 ypc, 5 TDs --- 11.1 fantasy ppg

You have a very strange definition of elite.

ETA-- His highest rushing yards in a game from weeks 10-19 was 72 yds.
Yep, he had a bad second half. That still doesn't mean he's not elite. He had injury issues from week 4 onward that he struggled with. The team was rotating the OL. The team had numerous injury issues, and were not even running the ball that often. And Addai still manage 10+ points per game.
I'm not saying he didn't have reasons for struggling. You pretty much mentioned them all. But, those are still very pedestrian #'s for an entire half of a season (not to mention the half that matters most). I can't call someone elite with that kind of production. Until he shows he can last a full season producing at an "elite" level, he's just not an elite RB. Part of the time doesn't count. I would give him more of a pass if it were his 1st season, but it wasn't.Above average--yes

Top 10--yes

Elite--not yet.

 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:) Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :no:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
Elite - better than most others.What's your definition?
Addai IS better than most others... that's not measured by # of 20+ yard runs.
I anxiously await the category that shows Addai as elite. :popcorn:

 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:) Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :popcorn:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
2007 Games 9-16125 carries, 411 yds, 3.3 ypc, 5 TDs --- 11.1 fantasy ppg

You have a very strange definition of elite.

ETA-- His highest rushing yards in a game from weeks 10-19 was 72 yds.
Yep, he had a bad second half. That still doesn't mean he's not elite. He had injury issues from week 4 onward that he struggled with. The team was rotating the OL. The team had numerous injury issues, and were not even running the ball that often. And Addai still manage 10+ points per game.
It's the offense, not him. LT, Sjax, ADP are all better dynasty backs. It wouldn't surprise me if they brought in someone to share the load a bit because he wears down and gets dinged quite a bit. I never watch the guy and go "wow". There are 10+ backs that would do much better than he if they had the shot to run the ball in that offense.
 
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If elite combine numbers alone made you an elite player then I'd be tripping over myself to steal RB Chris Henry in all of my leagues. It's just not that simple though. Lots of guys who have the physical skills to be great football players don't have the football skills. Addai might be one of those guys.

I was actually pretty high on him going into the offseason. I didn't own him in any of my leagues so I wasn't aware of just how awful his second half was. Now that I've taken a closer look at his performance, I'm pretty leery. He didn't have a good year. Add on the fact that he doesn't really wow me in the eyeball test and you have a guy who strikes me as overrated.

It will be interesting to see if and how the Colts address the backup RB spot in the offseason.

 
EBF said:
I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:rolleyes: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :no:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
Elite - better than most others.What's your definition?
Addai IS better than most others... that's not measured by # of 20+ yard runs.
I anxiously await the category that shows Addai as elite. :shrug:
I think a guy who can get 15 TD's annually is the very meaning of elite.I couldn't imagine rather having MJD or even Gore.

 
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I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:rolleyes: Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :no:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
Elite - better than most others.What's your definition?
Addai IS better than most others... that's not measured by # of 20+ yard runs.
I anxiously await the category that shows Addai as elite. :shrug:
I think a guy who can get 15 TD's annually is the very meaning of elite.
The problem is that guys who average 3.3 YPC don't keep their starting jobs. I don't think anyone doubts that Addai will be pretty solid as long as he's starting for the Colts. I think the big issue for most folks is whether or not he's good enough to be Indy's long-term starter. I'd say the jury's still out on that one.
 
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I actually think Addai is a long-term risk and a sell high candidate. He's a good athlete with a first round pedigree, but I'm not convinced he's a very good running back. After getting off to a strong start last season, he fizzled down the stretch. He had just 368 rushing yards in the second half of the season at a pitiful 3.3 YPC. He'll have value as long as he's starting for the Colts, but I'll be keeping an eye on the backup RB situation in Indy. I'm not sold on Addai and would be looking to move him if I owned him.
:) Addai isn't even in my top 5. He is a lot less talented than the other top RB prospects, and his situation doesn't matter as much as it should because he will always be a part time player. He will never get significantly more than 350 touches (catches and carries), and they will most likely bring in someone more talented than Kenton Keith at some point. If you can get another young stud for him (which in most leagues you can judging by this thread) you should pull the trigger immediately and not look back. Peterson, Jackson, Gore, and MJD are the players to target.
Oh you people and the talent argument... go back and look where Addai sits in position to the other elite prospects over the past 8 years in combine results... he's elite. Had a better combine than many of the _best_ RBs. He's performed at the NFL level at a very high level. The only question about him is durability, which he didn't put to rest at all last year. But the talent argument holds no water at all. :no:
I would think an "elite" RB could have at least one of 261 carries for more than 25 yards.Addai had a grand total of 2 rushes for over 20 yards last year. I'm not impressed.
You have a very strange definition of elite.
Elite - better than most others.What's your definition?
Addai IS better than most others... that's not measured by # of 20+ yard runs.
I anxiously await the category that shows Addai as elite. :popcorn:
I think a guy who can get 15 TD's annually is the very meaning of elite.I couldn't imagine rather having MJD or even Gore.
Did I miss a year, or are we counting a one-year performance as the definition of elite?If so, would you have put MJD, MB3 and FWP as elite after 2006?

 
The problem is that guys who average 3.3 YPC don't keep their starting jobs. I don't think anyone doubts that Addai will be pretty solid as long as he's starting for the Colts. I think the big issue for most folks is whether or not he's good enough to be Indy's long-term starter. I'd say the jury's still out on that one.
:) Indy RB = top 5. Addai if ever not the Colts starting RB = 10-15
 
Addai shouldn't even be spoken about as the #1 dynasty back. Yes his situation is great at the moment, but he's not in the same league talent wise as Peterson, not even close. Even with Addai's better situation he'll be lucky to produce like AD and if his situation gets worse down the road then he's no more than servicable.

Even those touting Addai wouldn't take him over Adrian Peterson who is the clear #1 dynasty back...and as much as i hate the phrase...IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.

 
If elite combine numbers alone made you an elite player then I'd be tripping over myself to steal RB Chris Henry in all of my leagues. It's just not that simple though. Lots of guys who have the physical skills to be great football players don't have the football skills. Addai might be one of those guys. I was actually pretty high on him going into the offseason. I didn't own him in any of my leagues so I wasn't aware of just how awful his second half was. Now that I've taken a closer look at his performance, I'm pretty leery. He didn't have a good year. Add on the fact that he doesn't really wow me in the eyeball test and you have a guy who strikes me as overrated. It will be interesting to see if and how the Colts address the backup RB spot in the off season.
I really wanted to find a way to agree with Switz on this issue, but damn EBF when your right your right, sorry Switz I agree with EB on this one. I think Gore with injuries and all would be a better dark horse candidate for number one Dynasty RB than Addai. Of course if I was an Addai owner I would ask for a whole lot in a trade. In dynasty I'm going with:1. Peterson2. Jackson3. Lynch4. Gore - If Martz can turn him into the next Marshall Faulk5. MBIII - If they find a complimentary back to keep him fresh.6. R. Brown - Will he make a full recovery?.7. Addai8. MJD - When Freds.8a. Grant - I own in two leagues and I forgot all about him.9. Portis - Seems like he's been around for ever.10. LT - (Age)11. Westbrook (Age)12. Turner - Potential? Is he the real deal or will he go the way of Chester Taylor?13. Jacobs - Will he ever be healthy for an entire season, I think its likely that Bradshaw is the starter in NY by mid season with Jacobs returning to the roll he had behind Barber, Great talent, big monster back that some one created on Techmo Bowl.14. Pot Luck.
 
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If elite combine numbers alone made you an elite player then I'd be tripping over myself to steal RB Chris Henry in all of my leagues. It's just not that simple though. Lots of guys who have the physical skills to be great football players don't have the football skills. Addai might be one of those guys.

I was actually pretty high on him going into the offseason. I didn't own him in any of my leagues so I wasn't aware of just how awful his second half was. Now that I've taken a closer look at his performance, I'm pretty leery. He didn't have a good year. Add on the fact that he doesn't really wow me in the eyeball test and you have a guy who strikes me as overrated.

It will be interesting to see if and how the Colts address the backup RB spot in the off season.
I really wanted to find a way to agree with Switz on this issue, but damn EBF when your right your right, sorry Switz I agree with EB on this one. I think Gore with injuries and all would be a better dark horse candidate for number one Dynasty RB than Addai. Of course if I was an Addai owner I would ask for a whole lot in a trade. In dynasty I'm going with:1. Peterson

2. Jackson

3. Lynch

4. Gore - If Martz can turn him into the next Marshall Faulk

5. MBIII - If they find a complimentary back to keep him fresh.

6. R. Brown - Will he make a full recovery?.

7. Addai

8. MJD - When Freds.

8a. Grant - I own in two leagues and I forgot all about him.

9. Portis - Seems like he's been around for ever.

10. LT - (Age)

11. Westbrook (Age)

12. Turner - Potential? Is he the real deal or will he go the way of Chester Taylor?

13. Jacobs - Will he ever be healthy for an entire season, I think its likely that Bradshaw is the starter in NY by mid season with Jacobs returning to the roll he had behind Barber, Great talent, big monster back that some one created on Techmo Bowl.

14. Pot Luck.
The bolded two sould not be ahead of Addai. I can see the others argument ahead of them, but I think I would take Addai as the #3 or #4 after SJax/AP/LT in no particular order. I love MB3, but has yet to prove the full load theory and Ronnie coming off a pretty nice knee injury shouldn't be ahead of Addai.
 
If elite combine numbers alone made you an elite player then I'd be tripping over myself to steal RB Chris Henry in all of my leagues. It's just not that simple though. Lots of guys who have the physical skills to be great football players don't have the football skills. Addai might be one of those guys. I was actually pretty high on him going into the offseason. I didn't own him in any of my leagues so I wasn't aware of just how awful his second half was. Now that I've taken a closer look at his performance, I'm pretty leery. He didn't have a good year. Add on the fact that he doesn't really wow me in the eyeball test and you have a guy who strikes me as overrated. It will be interesting to see if and how the Colts address the backup RB spot in the off season.
I really wanted to find a way to agree with Switz on this issue, but damn EBF when your right your right, sorry Switz I agree with EB on this one. I think Gore with injuries and all would be a better dark horse candidate for number one Dynasty RB than Addai. Of course if I was an Addai owner I would ask for a whole lot in a trade. In dynasty I'm going with:1. Peterson2. Jackson3. Lynch4. Gore - If Martz can turn him into the next Marshall Faulk5. MBIII - If they find a complimentary back to keep him fresh.6. R. Brown - Will he make a full recovery?.7. Addai8. MJD - When Freds.8a. Grant - I own in two leagues and I forgot all about him.9. Portis - Seems like he's been around for ever.10. LT - (Age)11. Westbrook (Age)12. Turner - Potential? Is he the real deal or will he go the way of Chester Taylor?13. Jacobs - Will he ever be healthy for an entire season, I think its likely that Bradshaw is the starter in NY by mid season with Jacobs returning to the roll he had behind Barber, Great talent, big monster back that some one created on Techmo Bowl.14. Pot Luck.
Mind you, I don't agree with the OP that Addai is #1 at all. I would put Peterson or LT at #1. I just disagree with the numerous, and seemingly incessant questioning of his talent. EBF was, I believe, the one who touted vert, broad, and 40 as the most important exercises at the combine, and Addai is far above average in all of those, somewhere in the top-15 overall in all 3 areas (IIRC) in the past 8 years - not guaranteeing he's a stud, but it is a very good indication. Then add in that he was a first round pick, by the Colts who have shown time and again that they excel in evaluating offensive NFL talent.Then you look at his overall NFL career so far (not cherry picking stats to fit your argument) and it's hard to argue he's not one of the elite backs in the NFL right now... unless you are too proud you made a mistake.Peterson and LT are clearly above him.Jackson and Gore are arguably above him.But I don't see anyone else other than those 4 I'd rather have on my dynasty team.
 
If elite combine numbers alone made you an elite player then I'd be tripping over myself to steal RB Chris Henry in all of my leagues. It's just not that simple though. Lots of guys who have the physical skills to be great football players don't have the football skills. Addai might be one of those guys.

I was actually pretty high on him going into the offseason. I didn't own him in any of my leagues so I wasn't aware of just how awful his second half was. Now that I've taken a closer look at his performance, I'm pretty leery. He didn't have a good year. Add on the fact that he doesn't really wow me in the eyeball test and you have a guy who strikes me as overrated.

It will be interesting to see if and how the Colts address the backup RB spot in the off season.
I really wanted to find a way to agree with Switz on this issue, but damn EBF when your right your right, sorry Switz I agree with EB on this one. I think Gore with injuries and all would be a better dark horse candidate for number one Dynasty RB than Addai. Of course if I was an Addai owner I would ask for a whole lot in a trade. In dynasty I'm going with:1. Peterson

2. Jackson

3. Lynch

4. Gore - If Martz can turn him into the next Marshall Faulk

5. MBIII - If they find a complimentary back to keep him fresh.

6. R. Brown - Will he make a full recovery?.

7. Addai

8. MJD - When Freds.

8a. Grant - I own in two leagues and I forgot all about him.

9. Portis - Seems like he's been around for ever.

10. LT - (Age)

11. Westbrook (Age)

12. Turner - Potential? Is he the real deal or will he go the way of Chester Taylor?

13. Jacobs - Will he ever be healthy for an entire season, I think its likely that Bradshaw is the starter in NY by mid season with Jacobs returning to the roll he had behind Barber, Great talent, big monster back that some one created on Techmo Bowl.

14. Pot Luck.
Mind you, I don't agree with the OP that Addai is #1 at all. I would put Peterson or LT at #1. I just disagree with the numerous, and seemingly incessant questioning of his talent. EBF was, I believe, the one who touted vert, broad, and 40 as the most important exercises at the combine, and Addai is far above average in all of those, somewhere in the top-15 overall in all 3 areas (IIRC) in the past 8 years - not guaranteeing he's a stud, but it is a very good indication. Then add in that he was a first round pick, by the Colts who have shown time and again that they excel in evaluating offensive NFL talent.Then you look at his overall NFL career so far (not cherry picking stats to fit your argument) and it's hard to argue he's not one of the elite backs in the NFL right now... unless you are too proud you made a mistake.

Peterson and LT are clearly above him.

Jackson and Gore are arguably above him.

But I don't see anyone else other than those 4 I'd rather have on my dynasty team.
I don't know how you can make this statement.I have him Top 5 in Dynasty based more on where he plays, his age (young) and his contract (cheap) and how the Colts use him than on his talent. I've already said that I could see him getting a very big head if he does well this year and holds out.

Addai is good to very-good starting RB in the NFL, but he's not elite.

He's the most replaceable RB in the Top 5 by quite a wide margin.

 
If elite combine numbers alone made you an elite player then I'd be tripping over myself to steal RB Chris Henry in all of my leagues. It's just not that simple though. Lots of guys who have the physical skills to be great football players don't have the football skills. Addai might be one of those guys.

I was actually pretty high on him going into the offseason. I didn't own him in any of my leagues so I wasn't aware of just how awful his second half was. Now that I've taken a closer look at his performance, I'm pretty leery. He didn't have a good year. Add on the fact that he doesn't really wow me in the eyeball test and you have a guy who strikes me as overrated.

It will be interesting to see if and how the Colts address the backup RB spot in the off season.
I really wanted to find a way to agree with Switz on this issue, but damn EBF when your right your right, sorry Switz I agree with EB on this one. I think Gore with injuries and all would be a better dark horse candidate for number one Dynasty RB than Addai. Of course if I was an Addai owner I would ask for a whole lot in a trade. In dynasty I'm going with:1. Peterson

2. Jackson

3. Lynch

4. Gore - If Martz can turn him into the next Marshall Faulk

5. MBIII - If they find a complimentary back to keep him fresh.

6. R. Brown - Will he make a full recovery?.

7. Addai

8. MJD - When Freds.

8a. Grant - I own in two leagues and I forgot all about him.

9. Portis - Seems like he's been around for ever.

10. LT - (Age)

11. Westbrook (Age)

12. Turner - Potential? Is he the real deal or will he go the way of Chester Taylor?

13. Jacobs - Will he ever be healthy for an entire season, I think its likely that Bradshaw is the starter in NY by mid season with Jacobs returning to the roll he had behind Barber, Great talent, big monster back that some one created on Techmo Bowl.

14. Pot Luck.
Mind you, I don't agree with the OP that Addai is #1 at all. I would put Peterson or LT at #1. I just disagree with the numerous, and seemingly incessant questioning of his talent. EBF was, I believe, the one who touted vert, broad, and 40 as the most important exercises at the combine, and Addai is far above average in all of those, somewhere in the top-15 overall in all 3 areas (IIRC) in the past 8 years - not guaranteeing he's a stud, but it is a very good indication. Then add in that he was a first round pick, by the Colts who have shown time and again that they excel in evaluating offensive NFL talent.Then you look at his overall NFL career so far (not cherry picking stats to fit your argument) and it's hard to argue he's not one of the elite backs in the NFL right now... unless you are too proud you made a mistake.

Peterson and LT are clearly above him.

Jackson and Gore are arguably above him.

But I don't see anyone else other than those 4 I'd rather have on my dynasty team.
I don't know how you can make this statement.I have him Top 5 in Dynasty based more on where he plays, his age (young) and his contract (cheap) and how the Colts use him than on his talent. I've already said that I could see him getting a very big head if he does well this year and holds out.

Addai is good to very-good starting RB in the NFL, but he's not elite.

He's the most replaceable RB in the Top 5 by quite a wide margin.
Yeah, I don't think anyone is calling him a bum, but talent wise I don't see him anywhere near Peterson or Bush or a handful of other guys. That's not to say he's not exceptionally good to great (few players are THAT good.). But really, few people really considered him until he blew up at the combine, and even after that, many people didn't think he would go in the 1st round before Indy took him (with the 30th overall pick.) It was a crowded year with Bush, Maroney, Williams and let's not forget Lendale who was thought would go 1st round. Arguably the biggest negative against Addai still hasn't been laid to rest... he shared time his whole career at LSU and Indy started him out the same way. Getting injured in his first year as a fulltime starter hasn't laid some of those questions to rest for some people.He won't neccessarily need to get 300 carries to be a major fantasy phenom (Brian Westbrook has had one heck of a career,) but it's going to hurt his chances to be at the top without them.

 
Joseph Addai is the new Brian Westbrook

Constantly questioned but I believe he'll shut the naysayers up. Either that or Addai will present very nice value like Westbrook has for years. Just last year Addai's stock fell a bit when the FBG's podcast gave him a worrysome review.

 
Joseph Addai is the new Brian WestbrookConstantly questioned but I believe he'll shut the naysayers up. Either that or Addai will present very nice value like Westbrook has for years. Just last year Addai's stock fell a bit when the FBG's podcast gave him a worrysome review.
Agreed.Anyone thinking the Colts are in any hurry to move Addai in the near future are really reaching. The Colts drafted Addai in the first round to be their back for the now and the future. People keep on saying he is replaceable but I gurantee that Manning and Tom Moore think Addai would be extremely difficult to replace. They drafted Addai not only for his gifted ability as a runner but because he is extremely intelligent which is something Indy values a lot.In his first full year as a starter he put up over 1400 combined yards and 15 TD's. The guy has great hands and catches the ball extremely well out of the backfield and is a very good blocker which you have to be in Indy's offense. People do not give Addai enough credit. Sure he plays in a great system but should he be faulted for this? In dynasty the only RB's ahead of Addai are Peterson and Jackson. I have Addai at the very worst in the next teir with Tomlinson, Gore, Westbrook, and Portis where I think Addai due to age and circumstance is as safe as any at the 3 slot.
 
Joseph Addai Marion Barber is the new Brian Westbrook
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Seems to me like your picking a slightly overrated fantasy RB instead of the underrated one. Barber won't present great value while Addai going outside of the top 5 in any dyansty draft this fall will. Just like Westbrook did for years.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree, because I think you have it backwards.
Couldn't agree more with Jeff here.
 
Anyone thinking the Colts are in any hurry to move Addai in the near future are really reaching. The Colts drafted Addai in the first round to be their back for the now and the future. People keep on saying he is replaceable but I gurantee that Manning and Tom Moore think Addai would be extremely difficult to replace. They drafted Addai not only for his gifted ability as a runner but because he is extremely intelligent which is something Indy values a lot.
Players who don't play well don't keep their starting jobs. There's reason to believe that Addai's poor second half last season was an abberation, but if he registers a weak YPC next season then he'll be at risk of being replaced, just like vitually every other RB in the league.
 
Joseph Addai Marion Barber is the new Brian Westbrook
Fixed.
Seems to me like you're picking a slightly overrated fantasy RB instead of the underrated one. Barber won't present great value while Addai going outside of the top 5 in any dyansty draft this fall will. Just like Westbrook did for years.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree, because I think you have it backwards.
Couldn't agree more with Jeff here.
Hence my Westbrook comparison for Addai. :yes: The fact the a few of you believe that Barber III > Addai in dynasty formats has me shaking my head.

 
Joseph Addai Marion Barber is the new Brian Westbrook
Fixed.
Seems to me like you're picking a slightly overrated fantasy RB instead of the underrated one. Barber won't present great value while Addai going outside of the top 5 in any dyansty draft this fall will. Just like Westbrook did for years.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree, because I think you have it backwards.
Couldn't agree more with Jeff here.
Hence my Westbrook comparison for Addai. :bye: The fact the a few of you believe that Barber III > Addai in dynasty formats has me shaking my head.
I didn't say I think Barber is > Addai. But I think Addai is the overrated guy and Barber is underrated. I think your statement above is backwards in terms of who is overrated and underrated. I don't see Addai falling outside of the top 5. I do see Barber possibly falling to 10 (or more). I have the 2 pretty closely ranked, giving Addai the slight edge (for now). And while I wouldn't pass on Addai if i had the 5 or 6 spot (have Addai/Gore there), I wouldn't feel as secure as a lot of Addai owners feel right now. His 2nd half last season is worrisome to say the least. His potential lack to be a true feature back is a concern. And, I would not be surprised in the least if Barber outproduces him throughout the rest of their careers.ETA---The one thing holding Barber slightly down now is the fact the draft hasn't taken place. If Dallas does not bring in someone to share the load with Barber, that would probably be enough for me to put Barber 1 spot ahead of Addai. I just don't expect that to happen.

 
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