Additional POST to Jeff Heseley's: Which RB not in the top 10 RB r (1 Viewer)

[gethugefast1]

Jeff Haseley's Question: Which RB not in the top 10 has the best chance of cracking the top 6? Based on the FBG Expert Ranking List which RB not in the top 10, but in the top 11-20, has the best chance at cracking the top 6? Is there anyone not listed that has a better chance? Your thoughts?

Current Top 10

1 LaDainian Tomlinson, SD

2 Steven Jackson, STL

3 Larry Johnson, KC

4 Frank Gore, SF

5 Brian Westbrook, PHI

6 Shaun Alexander, SEA

7 Willie Parker, PIT

8 Joseph Addai, IND

9 Laurence Maroney, NE

10 Rudi Johnson, CIN

Current 11-20

11 Reggie Bush, NO

12 Travis Henry, DEN

13 Willis McGahee, BAL

14 Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX

15 Clinton Portis, WAS

16 Edgerrin James, ARI

17 Ronnie Brown, MIA

18 Cedric Benson, CHI

19 Thomas Jones, NYJ

20 Cadillac Williams, TB

Now, Let's imagine all these RB's all were carrying their respective team's starting percentage of carries (70% plus) during the entire season...No RRBC, No Injuries.

Where would you rank them?

 

[gethugefast1]

I believe it's obviuos Bush, MJD & Portis move way up on the list.

 

[-OZ-]

I believe it's obviuos Bush, MJD & Portis move way up on the list.

basically the top rated RBs with the concerns GHF takes out.

 

[erymer]

I'm still going with Travis Henry. Running in Denver is a blessing.

Only one not on the list that has a long shot would be Adrian Peterson. But he would have to get the job from Day one and get all the carries. The only way this happens IMO is an injury to Chester Taylor. He does have the skills to be that caliber RB though.

 

[-OZ-]

Only one not on the list that has a long shot would be Adrian Peterson. But he would have to get the job from Day one and get all the carries. The only way this happens IMO is an injury to Chester Taylor. He does have the skills to be that caliber RB though.

DeAngelo Williams would be a long shot, but possible as well.

 

[erymer]

Only one not on the list that has a long shot would be Adrian Peterson. But he would have to get the job from Day one and get all the carries. The only way this happens IMO is an injury to Chester Taylor. He does have the skills to be that caliber RB though.

DeAngelo Williams would be a long shot, but possible as well.

I had forgotten about him. That's shameful for a guy living in NC. Good point though. I think were he to get the job from day one, which is very possible, he could perform very well. I think nothing would make Carolina happier for Williams to step up as the feature back. And he definitely has the skills to do well.

 

[nygiants56]

wihtout a doubt, Trav Henry will be a top 10 RB in 2007, he's likely to finish 4th behind LJ, LT,Sjax..

two others: Ronnie Brown and Edgerrin James. Neither has to worry about someone stealing carries from him ( ala Portis, Bush, MJD). Both should easily carry the ball 300+ times, and get the lion's share of the goal line carries.

In Ronnie Brown's case, the *possible* suspension of Chambers will open the door for more passes being thrown Brown's way.

I'm not a fan of Ronnie Brown, but I think Cam Cameron is going to run him into the ground this season. The guy has good speed ( avg 4.3/carry for his career) and can catch better than any RB not named Tomlinson or Bush. Cameron has a history of over-utilizing the RB position, and Miami should be no different.

I'm not sure the top 10 should include Westbrook, Maroney, Parker.

Westbrook achieved career highs in rush yards and stayed relatively healthy for the first time in his career, but I'm not sure he repeats that stat line - he's an injury risk, and McNabb's recent spate of injuries is cause for concern. If McNabb goes down, Westy is going to see 8-9 man fronts with a QB like Kolb at the helm.

Maroney *might* do well in NE, but he's involved in a quasi-RBBC: Faulk and Morris will steal carries. Maroney also has shoulder issues.

Parker was decent last season, but ALL of his big games came against weak defensive teams, i.e, cle, mia, car, cin, n.o., kc. Couple this with a new offensive system predicated on passing, and the stat line for Parker is bound to shrink..

 

[-OZ-]

Ronnie Brown's case, the *possible* suspension of Chambers will open the door for more passes being thrown Brown's way.I'm not a fan of Ronnie Brown, but I think Cam Cameron is going to run him into the ground this season. The guy has good speed ( avg 4.3/carry for his career) and can catch better than any RB not named Tomlinson or Bush. Cameron has a history of over-utilizing the RB position, and Miami should be no different.

If Chambers misses any time, who is going to get the respect of the defense and keep the D from concentrating on Brown? The fins passing attack is weak to begin with, losing Chambers would devastate them. Trent Green isn't going to earn anyone's respect this year. You're right that Cm will run Brown into the ground, but he'll be looking at a YPC of well under 4. He could be a great pick in PPR.

 

[jurb26]

Now, Let's imagine all these RB's all were carrying their respective team's starting percentage of carries (70% plus) during the entire season...No RRBC, No Injuries.

Where would you rank them?

If this were a given. My top 10 would be:1 Clinton Portis, WAS

2 Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX

3 LaDainian Tomlinson, SD

4 Frank Gore, SF

5 Steven Jackson, STL

6 Laurence Maroney, NE

7 Reggie Bush, NO

8 Willie Parker, PIT

9 Travis Henry, DEN

10 Larry Johnson, KC

I'd have to give McGahee, D. Williams and Peterson/Taylor strong consideration as well.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Now, Let's imagine all these RB's all were carrying their respective team's starting percentage of carries (70% plus) during the entire season...No RRBC, No Injuries.

Where would you rank them?

If this were a given. My top 10 would be:1 Clinton Portis, WAS

2 Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX

3 LaDainian Tomlinson, SD

4 Frank Gore, SF

5 Steven Jackson, STL

6 Laurence Maroney, NE

7 Reggie Bush, NO

8 Willie Parker, PIT

9 Travis Henry, DEN

10 Larry Johnson, KC

I'd have to give McGahee, D. Williams and Peterson/Taylor strong consideration as well.

MJD and Portis ahead of LT? LT will score so many TD's that neither of these have a chance to be anywhere close to him, let alone ahead of him. The only RB's who even have a chance to pass LT are those who are capable of scoring close to 20 TD's. The list is very short, and these two are not on it.

 

[jurb26]

MJD and Portis ahead of LT? LT will score so many TD's that neither of these have a chance to be anywhere close to him, let alone ahead of him. The only RB's who even have a chance to pass LT are those who are capable of scoring close to 20 TD's. The list is very short, and these two are not on it.

Whats confusing about it? This is Saunder's offense. The most fantasy friendly RB situation the past 5 years. Portis is an elite RB talent. We are promised no less than 70% of the touches and full health. Portis is an easy pick IMO. MJD, I can see reason for concern there. Again, if we know for a fact that MJD is going to be fully healthy and get 70% or more of the touches. I really like his chances.

 

[Ariakis]

I don't get the love for Portis at this point. I just don't see the break-away speed and between the injury risk and glorified RBBC he is strongly on my avoid list now given his current draft status. Let's think back to his days in Denver and the well earned but perhaps forgotten nickname Porcellain Portis. Meanwhile Betts is not going to go away and the shared carries make his chances at being a RB1 again limited. Not that I wouldn't roster him but he's going in the top 15 which I think is too high to be good safe value for his floor.

 

[erymer]

I don't get the love for Portis at this point. I just don't see the break-away speed and between the injury risk and glorified RBBC he is strongly on my avoid list now given his current draft status. Let's think back to his days in Denver and the well earned but perhaps forgotten nickname Porcellain Portis. Meanwhile Betts is not going to go away and the shared carries make his chances at being a RB1 again limited. Not that I wouldn't roster him but he's going in the top 15 which I think is too high to be good safe value for his floor.

Betts had a good season from a yardage standpoint, but when he starts putting th ball on the ground again, Portis will get more carries. I couldn't find the link, but I think he put the ball on the ground in 5 of his last 6 games. Possibly more often. PLease chime in if anyone has the exact numbers.I am not in a hurry to put Portis in the top 5, but I don't see Betts cutting into his carries like most people think. A healthy Portis is much better than Betts any day IMO.

 

[-OZ-]

MJD and Portis ahead of LT?

LT will score so many TD's that neither of these have a chance to be anywhere close to him, let alone ahead of him. The only RB's who even have a chance to pass LT are those who are capable of scoring close to 20 TD's. The list is very short, and these two are not on it.

Whats confusing about it? This is Saunder's offense. The most fantasy friendly RB situation the past 5 years. Portis is an elite RB talent. We are promised no less than 70% of the touches and full health. Portis is an easy pick IMO. MJD, I can see reason for concern there. Again, if we know for a fact that MJD is going to be fully healthy and get 70% or more of the touches. I really like his chances.

Given these rules of this thread, why isn't Portis capable of close to 20 TDs? I wouldn't put him ahead of LT, but top 3 is quite reasonable - again, given the rules of this thread.