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Ahmad Bradshaw going forward (1 Viewer)

RJS113

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After 3 games, Bradshaw is on pace for:

277 carries 1349 yards

37 catches 250 yards

11 TDs

Can he keep it up the rest of the year? The Giants have a pretty decent schedule, and Bradshaw is clearly the #1 guy in NY. The thing I really like, is he hasn't put up these numbers because of one huge game. He is consistent, and ran for 76, 89, and 88 yards over the past 3 weeks.

If you were to move him, what backs would you take for him straight up?

 
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I doubt you can get more out of him that what he is currently worth. I'm holding him, I think he is very consistent and there are few RBs right now that are reliable every week....he seems to be one of them. That being said, I think he struggles vs Chi this week, so if you can get a good value for him it's not a terrible idea, either.

I would sell him for a top 10 WR going forward, or a guy like Rice, who has started slow but will likely pick up steam as the season progresses.

 
Hold him. Unless Jacobs gets out of the doghouse or he gets injured, Bradshaw is a RB you can start every week.

 
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It really just depends what you can get for him and what other RBs you have. I wouldn't him unless you have a massive hole somewhere else, you have 3 other RBs you would feel comfortable starting most weeks, somebody desperate for a RB will overpay for him.

 
It really just depends what you can get for him and what other RBs you have. I wouldn't him unless you have a massive hole somewhere else, you have 3 other RBs you would feel comfortable starting most weeks, somebody desperate for a RB will overpay for him.
But what about moving him for another RB straight up? Would you trade him for a guy like Deangelo Williams or MJD if you could get them?
 
It really just depends what you can get for him and what other RBs you have. I wouldn't him unless you have a massive hole somewhere else, you have 3 other RBs you would feel comfortable starting most weeks, somebody desperate for a RB will overpay for him.
But what about moving him for another RB straight up? Would you trade him for a guy like Deangelo Williams or MJD if you could get them?
In the back of my head I contemplating the pros and cons of seeing about moving him for J Charles. My thinking is that Thomas Jones is being used more early in the season to keep Charles as fresh as possible for the later part of the season. Think last year how obviously he tore it up in the second half, and people said 'that's just because he's fresh and playing worn down defenses'. Maybe its being done by design this season.But I drink a lot of red & gold kool-aid.
 
It really just depends what you can get for him and what other RBs you have. I wouldn't him unless you have a massive hole somewhere else, you have 3 other RBs you would feel comfortable starting most weeks, somebody desperate for a RB will overpay for him.
But what about moving him for another RB straight up? Would you trade him for a guy like Deangelo Williams or MJD if you could get them?
In the back of my head I contemplating the pros and cons of seeing about moving him for J Charles. My thinking is that Thomas Jones is being used more early in the season to keep Charles as fresh as possible for the later part of the season. Think last year how obviously he tore it up in the second half, and people said 'that's just because he's fresh and playing worn down defenses'. Maybe its being done by design this season.But I drink a lot of red & gold kool-aid.
I wouldn't trade a guy getting 18-20 carries a game for a guy getting 8-10, based on the assumption that the latter guy will begin to get more down the road. KC is probably pretty happy with the way things are going right now, don't ya think?
 
I doubt you can get more out of him that what he is currently worth. I'm holding him, I think he is very consistent and there are few RBs right now that are reliable every week....he seems to be one of them. That being said, I think he struggles vs Chi this week, so if you can get a good value for him it's not a terrible idea, either.

I would sell him for a top 10 WR going forward, or a guy like Rice, who has started slow but will likely pick up steam as the season progresses.
I think this is exactly right. He's the kind of guy that whose actual value is greater than his perceived value. The kind of guy you'd want to trade for. Of course, 1 or 2 big games on national television can get a hype train going and make his perceived value skyrocket, but in the meantime you probably won't get what he's worth.

 
It really just depends what you can get for him and what other RBs you have. I wouldn't him unless you have a massive hole somewhere else, you have 3 other RBs you would feel comfortable starting most weeks, somebody desperate for a RB will overpay for him.
But what about moving him for another RB straight up? Would you trade him for a guy like Deangelo Williams or MJD if you could get them?
I would be surprised if an MJD owner would swap him for Bradshaw. However, I like Bradshaw because of the number of scoring opportunities he will have compared to the broken offenses in Jacksonville and Carolina.
 
I'd hold because I'm not sure his value is in line with what he's producing. You might be able to trade him for a buy low guy like DeAngelo, but would you want to do that? As long as Bradshaw keeps getting similar touches, I think we are looking at his floor. If the passing offense can start clicking better, he could easily rack up a few more TDs and receiving yards.

 
I traded C.Benson in part because I have Bradshaw on my bench. Now I start MJD and Bradshaw. Benson netted me T.Jones and S.Holmes.

 
I've got Bradshaw starting ahead of Addai, and would like to move one of them. Can't seem to get the right value for either, though. I would be happy to get a solid WR2 out of it, but have only received offers of the WR3 variety.

 
Redraft, PPR...I traded for him before week 3, giving Steve Smith (CAR). I was WR heavy and he was RB heavy.

 
I traded C.Benson in part because I have Bradshaw on my bench. Now I start MJD and Bradshaw. Benson netted me T.Jones and S.Holmes.
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Cedric Bensons name carries a lot of weight but if you look at the numbers...Thomas Jones is only 10-11 points behind him. My #3 Wr is T.Gonzalez so S.Holmes solidifies. Actually Bradshaw is outscoring Benson in most leagues and has been more consistent.
 
I traded C.Benson in part because I have Bradshaw on my bench. Now I start MJD and Bradshaw. Benson netted me T.Jones and S.Holmes.
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Cedric Bensons name carries a lot of weight but if you look at the numbers...Thomas Jones is only 10-11 points behind him. My #3 Wr is T.Gonzalez so S.Holmes solidifies. Actually Bradshaw is outscoring Benson in most leagues and has been more consistent.
Umm ... DWM .... can you guide me in the right direction for a large view of your avatar? :bag: Sorry, carry on with the Bradshaw conversation.
 
I traded C.Benson in part because I have Bradshaw on my bench. Now I start MJD and Bradshaw. Benson netted me T.Jones and S.Holmes.
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Cedric Bensons name carries a lot of weight but if you look at the numbers...Thomas Jones is only 10-11 points behind him. My #3 Wr is T.Gonzalez so S.Holmes solidifies. Actually Bradshaw is outscoring Benson in most leagues and has been more consistent.
10 points through 3 games is a pretty large difference, 3ppg was the difference between RB#12 and Rb#25 or RB#6 and RB #17 in non-ppr leagues. If you take 3 ppg difference and look at it over 16 games, we are looking at 48 points.
 
Can't think of any reason to consider Bradshaw a sell. Presently you can't get top tier RB value for him, but he seems to be in position to produce top tier production this season.

 
Can't think of any reason to consider Bradshaw a sell. Presently you can't get top tier RB value for him, but he seems to be in position to produce top tier production this season.
As long as he can stay healthy, I can't see him not being a top 15 RB in PPR this season.
 
I would look at this from a different perspective. There is no chance Jacobs gets less of a work load moving forward. In fact, I would bet his work load increases. The Giants have been playing from behind and using Bradshaw more. I don't think many Giant fans believe using Jacobs this small amount is good for anyone on the Giants. Bradshaw runs real hard and has excellent balance and strength for a small guy, but his vision is not very good. He is an effective player and has earned more playing time than Jacobs, but he has not fumbled twice and I think this is partially because he is more tired form his carries. the Giants coaching is smart enough to realize that Jacobs needs to be used more and to keep them both fresh.

So how do I answer the question? It depends on what you can get, but I would not expect much of an increase in his numbers. The TD's will be less, but his yards could go up as the Giants lead more games and control the rock more.

 
He's going to get hurt if he keeps stopping and if he doesn't he will stay on pace or even explode past it.

He has this way of getting 4-5 yards past the LOS and seeming to pause for a half sec almost thinking what to do now. If he gets comfy and puts a move on his defender...look out but if he keeps that up, he's a sitting duck for some big hitting defender.

The Giants line hasn't looked as dominating as in years past but there's a good number of plays that they look outstanding so it's probably coming.

He's got a lot going for him right now.

ETA-Other backs over the years have had that pause as they're thinking/learning how to stay healthy. How to go down? is it worth fighting for a half yard when you already have the first? Should I race to the sideline? etc.

 
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I would look at this from a different perspective. There is no chance Jacobs gets less of a work load moving forward. In fact, I would bet his work load increases. The Giants have been playing from behind and using Bradshaw more. I don't think many Giant fans believe using Jacobs this small amount is good for anyone on the Giants. Bradshaw runs real hard and has excellent balance and strength for a small guy, but his vision is not very good. He is an effective player and has earned more playing time than Jacobs, but he has not fumbled twice and I think this is partially because he is more tired form his carries. the Giants coaching is smart enough to realize that Jacobs needs to be used more and to keep them both fresh.So how do I answer the question? It depends on what you can get, but I would not expect much of an increase in his numbers. The TD's will be less, but his yards could go up as the Giants lead more games and control the rock more.
You are way off base. Vision is one of his strengths, not a weakness.
 
I really like Bradshaw's skills, I'm just more worried about the Giants as a whole than I am about him in particular. One or two more bad games and this team could turn into a :football:

 
I would look at this from a different perspective. There is no chance Jacobs gets less of a work load moving forward. In fact, I would bet his work load increases. The Giants have been playing from behind and using Bradshaw more. I don't think many Giant fans believe using Jacobs this small amount is good for anyone on the Giants. Bradshaw runs real hard and has excellent balance and strength for a small guy, but his vision is not very good. He is an effective player and has earned more playing time than Jacobs, but he has not fumbled twice and I think this is partially because he is more tired form his carries. the Giants coaching is smart enough to realize that Jacobs needs to be used more and to keep them both fresh.So how do I answer the question? It depends on what you can get, but I would not expect much of an increase in his numbers. The TD's will be less, but his yards could go up as the Giants lead more games and control the rock more.
You are way off base. Vision is one of his strengths, not a weakness.
:unsure: He lost me there. Question his durability or 3rd down skills, fine, but Bradshaw is a natural RB.
 
my only concern is the 2 lost fumbles.not sure how many more before coughlin would yank him.
This was a concern of mine about him too......until I remembered that Brandon Jacobs is in the process of getting himself surgically attached to the bench. I just can't see them rolling with Ware as the 'featured' guy.It's a concern, but not as big of a one as it would have been last season. At least for now, anyway.
 
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Benson netted me T.Jones and S.Holmes.
Ouch! Did he at least use lube?
I love that deal for him. Holmes will take about 2 weeks to become the #1 in New York. He'll be worth significantly more than Benson by mid-season IMO.
Last year the Jets' #1 WR finished as WR34 for fantasy output (Cotchery: 57-821-3). That's not worth significantly more than anything.Who knows about TDs, but prorating 57-821 to something like 45-600 in 12 games doesn't seem too far off the mark for what Holmes might do, given the totality of circumstances (other WRs, emergence of Keller, strong run game, defense-first style).
 
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Benson netted me T.Jones and S.Holmes.
Ouch! Did he at least use lube?
I love that deal for him. Holmes will take about 2 weeks to become the #1 in New York. He'll be worth significantly more than Benson by mid-season IMO.
Last year the Jets' #1 WR finished as WR34 for fantasy output (Cotchery: 57-821-3). That's not worth significantly more than anything.Who knows about TDs, but prorating 57-821 to something like 45-600 in 12 games doesn't seem too far off the mark for what Holmes might do, given the totality of circumstances (other WRs, emergence of Keller, strong run game, defense-first style).
1,) No Jets WR was as talented as Holmes.2.) You're assuming that Sanchez hasn't improved.3.) The Jets have made a somewhat significant push to upgrade their WRs and TEs through FA and the draft in the past 2 years. There's probably a reason for that. FTR, I'm not sold on Sanchez, but I'm also not an NFL GM.
 
Benson netted me T.Jones and S.Holmes.
Ouch! Did he at least use lube?
I love that deal for him. Holmes will take about 2 weeks to become the #1 in New York. He'll be worth significantly more than Benson by mid-season IMO.
Last year the Jets' #1 WR finished as WR34 for fantasy output (Cotchery: 57-821-3). That's not worth significantly more than anything.Who knows about TDs, but prorating 57-821 to something like 45-600 in 12 games doesn't seem too far off the mark for what Holmes might do, given the totality of circumstances (other WRs, emergence of Keller, strong run game, defense-first style).
1,) No Jets WR was as talented as Holmes.2.) You're assuming that Sanchez hasn't improved.3.) The Jets have made a somewhat significant push to upgrade their WRs and TEs through FA and the draft in the past 2 years. There's probably a reason for that. FTR, I'm not sold on Sanchez, but I'm also not an NFL GM.
Seems like a lot of different factors in play here, many of which cancel each other. Improving QB, but more talented group of WRs. Jones out, but LT in. And so on. Meanwhile some constants are the coaching staff and the defense.Hey if you think Holmes is going to go bananas in this offense, then more power to you. I see a case of, the more things change the more they stay the same.
 
I'm a big Bradshaw fan - owned him last year, and the thrill was short lived. My problem with him is similar to the one in Carolina. While still good, the O-line doesn't appear to be dominant with the run. They used to blow people 5 yards off the line. They don't anymore. So, as much as I like Ahmad, if I could package him for one of the backs mentioned I would..

 
my only concern is the 2 lost fumbles.not sure how many more before coughlin would yank him.
He didn't yank Tiki and eventually they were able to fix his fumbling issues. They have the same RB coach as then, so they probably see Bradshaws fumbling as a fixable problem.
 
Dealt Bradshaw this evening, non-PPR, where I have way too many RBs (Gore, Forte, Spiller, FJackson, Taylor, and Blount). Got Fitzgerald and Stewart for Bradshaw and Sanchez.

Without all the RB depth and a hole at WR, I'd have kept Bradshaw and started him with confidence every week over the short term. Not sure if he'll hold up all season getting this many touches every week, but he's looked fantastic in the parts of games I've watched. The other worry (as mentioned by a previous poster) is that Jacobs regains a role. He may be in the doghouse now, but it's a long season and I'd be surprised if Jacobs wasn't a factor 5-6 weeks from now. Not as an every down back, but getting goal line touches and stealing enough production to damage Bradshaw's value.

 
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got offered big ben for bradshaw in PPR. I've got turner, gore, best, and snelling. ryan and stafford are my QBs. do I bite on this one? it's redraft PPR.

 
I'm a big Bradshaw fan - owned him last year, and the thrill was short lived. My problem with him is similar to the one in Carolina. While still good, the O-line doesn't appear to be dominant with the run. They used to blow people 5 yards off the line. They don't anymore. So, as much as I like Ahmad, if I could package him for one of the backs mentioned I would..
I think you still wish you had him this year. Just saying..
 
This guy was drafted in the 5-7 round in most leagues. One of the better value picks in the draft. Why would you trade him? The only reason I see to trade him is if you scored on a few other backs and have a loaded backfield. Otherwise you ride him and enjoy the fact that you drafted a guy in the early middle rounds who's going to outscore MJD and Ray Rice.

Fantasy Gold imo. Most of the Hawks I know were targeting Bradshaw.....with good reason.

 
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1 or 2 big games on national television can get a hype train going and make his perceived value skyrocket, but in the meantime you probably won't get what he's worth.
He's on national TV Sunday night against the #1 rush defense in the league. That could be a bad thing.That being said, Jahvid Best did score twice on them week 1.
 
I can't decide whether to start Bradshaw against the #1 Rush D this week, or Steve Smith (CAR) w/Clausen against the Saints.

Leaning toward Bradshaw.

 
1 or 2 big games on national television can get a hype train going and make his perceived value skyrocket, but in the meantime you probably won't get what he's worth.
He's on national TV Sunday night against the #1 rush defense in the league. That could be a bad thing.That being said, Jahvid Best did score twice on them week 1.
This could go either way. As long as he looks good and puts up decent numbers this week against the (early) #1 rush defense, then his value goes up. I bet he gets a TD this week.
 
1 or 2 big games on national television can get a hype train going and make his perceived value skyrocket, but in the meantime you probably won't get what he's worth.
He's on national TV Sunday night against the #1 rush defense in the league. That could be a bad thing.That being said, Jahvid Best did score twice on them week 1.
This could go either way. As long as he looks good and puts up decent numbers this week against the (early) #1 rush defense, then his value goes up. I bet he gets a TD this week.
I respect the Bears defense, I really do. Peppers and a healthy Urlacher have made them somewhat fearsome again.Having said that I have Bradshaw starting over Rice vs Pitt. The Steelers scare me a whole lot more than the Bears and with this game in the Meadowlands I think the GMen come back with a statement game. I like Bradshaw a lot this week simply because the Giants have their back up against a wall and a stellar effort is called for. As much as I despise Coughlin, the vets on this team will take over this week and dominate.And holding Bradshaw at least thru the bye weeks. At the week 10 trading deadline who knows?
 
Hold

As others have said I think it's hard to get a trade partner to properly value Bradshaw. You probably drafted him 5th round or later and now you're trying to move him for first or second round talent. IMO his trade value right now is more that he might give you the confidence to move a sexier name while keeping the under-valued guy. For example, if you believe MJD is a sinking ship (I'm not saying he is or isn't), Bradshaw gives you confidence to move MJD while there are still trade partners that think they're buying low.

 
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