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10.14 - Miroslav Klose, ST, Germany 

 When God created space, Miroslav Klose was already there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:...s._Germany_2012-09-11_-_Miroslav_Klose_01.JPG

 








We need a guy to lead the line and leave space for the creative guys behind him to work their magic. Fox in the box, poacher, strong #9 all mixed into one. 

WELCOME ABOARD!

 
Really want a particular player here, but I'm going to roll the dice that he's available on the return based on jonessed and wdcrob's needs. So I'll go ahead and fill my other need. This guy will contribute just fine offensively and defensively. Plus, Blanc needed a friend.

10.15- LB Bixente Lizarazu, France, Bayern/Bordeaux

Date Of Birth  : 9 December 1969 
Nation           : France 
Height           : 169 cm 
Major Club     :  Bayern Munich 
Caps             :  97 Games 
World Cup Participation  :   1998, 2002 (10 Games) 
Club Honours               :   6 Times Bundesliga Champions 
5 Times German Cup 
4 Times German League Cup 
2001 UEFA Champion League 
1999 UEFA Champion League Runner-Up 
International Honours    :   1998 FIFA World Cup Champion 
2000 European Championship Winners 
2 Times FIFA Confederation Cup (2001, 2003) 
Individual Achievement  :   1998 Legion de Honour 

“Liza” Bixente Lizarazu was widely regarded as the top left-back of the world in late 90s and one of the great backs for the 1998 FIFA World Cup champion France which was rated as the strongest back line as national team. He was an equivalent defender between defensive and offensive options, was extraordinary in agility, acceleration, stamina and basic skill. Lizarazu was a Basque descent, has a stadium named after him in the French Basque country, the "Stade Bixente-Lizarazu" .During his second spell with Bayern Munich in 2005 and 2006, Lizarazu wore the shirt number 69. Clarifying that it wasn't a lewd gesture, he said this was because he was born in 1969, his height is 1.69m and he weighed 69 kg. Lizarazu has always been compared with Manuel Amoros whom he was similar in style of play, figure and level of ability. 

 
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My kids we offsides trapping so beautiful yesterday, but the gd AR kept blowing the call which led to a couple of easy goals.  I'm still mad about it today.

 
I have a few options here, but I am going to grab another no-nonsense defender for my first current player.  Need someone that can mark and harass all of these amazing offensive talents.

Giorgio Chiellini (Italian pronunciation: [ˈdʒordʒo kjelˈliːni]; born 14 August 1984) is an Italian professional footballer who currently plays for Serie A club Juventus and the Italian national team. He began his career as a left-back, but made his name as an aggressive, physical, hard-tackling centre back in a 3 or 4 man defence, with a penchant for scoring headers from set-pieces, due to his aerial prowess and strength.[3][4][5]Walter Mazzarri once labeled him as "a force of nature, he's a universal player that any coach would love to have on his team.[6] He is from another planet; he can mark three players by himself."[7][8] A popular figure with fans, he is also known for his leadership, and is the club's vice-captain, behind Gianluigi Buffon.[9]

He made his international debut for Italy in 2004, and has since earned over 80 caps. He was selected in the nation's squads for the 2004 Olympics, winning a bronze medal, as well as for two UEFA European Championships, two FIFA World Cups and two FIFA Confederations Cups, helping the Azzurri to reach the final of UEFA Euro 2012 and a third-place finish at the 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup. At club level, Chiellini began his career with Livorno in 2000, also later playing for Roma and Fiorentina, before moving to Juventus in 2005. With Juventus, he has won four consecutive Serie A titles from 2012 to 2015, as well as a Coppa Italia and three Supercoppa Italiana titles.

Chiellini is considered to be one of the world's top defenders:[10] in 2012, The Guardian named him the 50th Best Player in the World,[11] and in 2013 he was ranked as the seventh-best footballer playing in Europe by Bloomberg.[12


Club



Juventus[72][73]

International



Italy[72][73]

Individual


 
PIK95 said:
My kids we offsides trapping so beautiful yesterday, but the gd AR kept blowing the call which led to a couple of easy goals.  I'm still mad about it today.
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It's pretty risky without solid refereeing.  I don't think I would ever play it in kids leagues.

 
jonessed said:
It's pretty risky without solid refereeing.  I don't think I would ever play it in kids leagues.
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Of course you play it in youth leagues.  How else does it get taught?  If the goal of youth league games were to win, we should just get all of our coaches to teach the revered "pass the ball to the fast kid" tactic. 

 
Eephus said:
10.xx  Graeme Souness  CM  Scotland

The greatest of the hard men who bossed the center of the pitch in the 70s and 80s.  He collected three European Cups, four League Cups and five league titles in his eight seasons at Anfield.  He helped Scotland to three consecutive World Cup finals appearances and was a successful player/manager for Rangers until the age of 38.

Souness was almost as skilled as he was tough so he's more than capable of playing the pivot but his main roles will be to win balls, screen the back line and stop attacks before they develop.  And if the referee's back is turned, he'll stomp your guys right in their Ballon d'Or.
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Posted this in the soccer thread - about the time Souness planted a Galatsaray flag at Fenerbahçe's stadium

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Of course you play it in youth leagues.  How else does it get taught?  If the goal of youth league games were to win, we should just get all of our coaches to teach the revered "pass the ball to the fast kid" tactic. 
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I suppose it depends on how young.  There are plenty of skillsets kids need to learn about defending and playing to the offsides rules without trying to play a consistent offsides trap defense.  It's not only about winning, it's about having fun.  Having your attempts at an offsides trap consistently broken would be incredibly frustrating.

 
Tactics are the last thing young kids need.

I want my 10yo to be technical, not be able to recite Inverting The Pyramid to me while he can't make an accurate pass or has the first touch of Jozy.

 
10.17  Michael Ballack, M, Germany

Ballack was one of the best German player during a relatively down time for Germany.  Which is sort of like saying he's the ugliest Victoria's Secret model.  Doesn't have Willian's raw athleticism, but is perfectly suited to help boss the game as "he exudes authority and calm on the pitch."

3x German player of the year
1x UEFA Midfielder of the Year
1x FIFPro selection
2x World Cup all-star team


11.01  WILLIAN, M, Brazil

Willian won't end his career with loads of individual awards, but he's an invaluable piece for both Chelsea and Brazil and I absolutely love his game.  Incredible athlete and work rate and more technical skill than a lot of players who can play as this role.  All he does is make your team better.

Both can get forward a bit, but in this setup will need to be disciplined and play a specific role -- namely sitting in front of Vieira and behind Kaka and controlling the game with tactical know-how, positional sense and work rate.  My 3-4-3 also requires strong coordination and selflessness from the back six to cover the sidelines, and everyone here has it in spades.  Willian and Silva are both athletic enough that my right side is in good hands despite the narrow setup.  Ballack and Costacurta may need a bit more help from Vieira against teams that attack down the left -- probably the biggest weakness defensively. 

...................Suarez
......Aguero...................Messi
....................Kaka
......Ballack..................Willian
...................Vieira
....Costacurta.....Pique.......Silva
...................Buffon


For tactical subs we still need another two way midfielder in case we need to go to a flat four, a pair of wingbacks to play four or five at the back, a target forward, and pure subs at CB and forward.

 
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The Gator said:
Tactics are the last thing young kids need.

I want my 10yo to be technical, not be able to recite Inverting The Pyramid to me while he can't make an accurate pass or has the first touch of Jozy.
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Why is it either/or?  Teaching a defensive line to talk to one another and defend in unison is a skill.  Just like having a first touch. 

 
10.10 - Velibor Vasovic

A tough, versatile, Serbian center back renowned for his ability to play out of the back. First foreign captain of Ajax. I love the way he pairs with Baresi.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
Why is it either/or?  Teaching a defensive line to talk to one another and defend in unison is a skill.  Just like having a first touch. 
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Usually because of time, i guess. we're lucky to get these kids 2-3 times a week.

They need to learn, for sure, but if I'm a u16 coach, I rather need to teach the kids tactics than something they should already have...like ball skills, touch , dribbling. I've had kids that new all the tactics, positioning(too many fifa games) but couldn't pass the ball into the ocean if he was on a  pier.

 
You'd like the Willian pick too if you had to play against him.  Such is my crush that I wanted to draft him #1 overall, but figured I could probably wait a round or two.  Love is blind and I DON'T CARE.

 
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For the purposes they are being used in rob's team, I like the Willian pick more than the Ballack pick. 

EDIT: I think I'd swap Viera and Ballack and essentially play Viera and Willian as super wing backs.

 
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wdcrob said:
You'd like the Willian pick too if you had to play against him.  Such is my love that I wanted to draft him #1 overall, but figured I could probably wait a round or two.  Love is blind and I DON'T CARE.
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You'll be happy to know that Willian was so loved in my Football Manager sim, I signed him on a free then punted him like a sack of flour four months later for $38 million. :coffee:  

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
For the purposes they are being used in rob's team, I like the Willian pick more than the Ballack pick. 

EDIT: I think I'd swap Viera and Ballack and essentially play Viera and Willian as super wing backs.
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Noted.  Is that because Vieira is a better athlete, has a better work rate, etc?

If I can get a left-side mid I like I may move Kaka into Aguero's spot and have Aguero as a sub instead too.

 
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I think this is one that has fallen way too far based on his name.  He's overrated by a lot of people, but we are well past that at this point.

David Robert Joseph Beckham, [SIZE=85%]OBE[/SIZE][4] (/ˈbɛkəm/; born 2 May 1975) is an English former professional footballer. He played for Manchester United, Preston North End, Real Madrid, Milan, LA Galaxy, Paris Saint-Germain, and the England national team for which he holds the appearance record for an outfield player.[5] He is the first English player to win league titles in four countries: England, Spain, the United States and France. He announced his retirement in May 2013 after a 20-year career, during which he won 19 major trophies.[6][7] Known for his range of passing, crossing ability and bending free-kicks, he was twice runner-up for FIFA World Player of the Year and in 2004 he was named in the FIFA 100 list of the world's greatest living players.[8][9][10]


Club



Manchester United[247]

Real Madrid[247]

Los Angeles Galaxy[247]


Paris Saint-Germain[247]
Individual


[*]Real Madrid Player of the Year (1): 2005–06

[*]Premier League PFA Team of the Year (4): 1996–97,[290] 1997–98,[291] 1998–99,[292] 1999–2000[293]
[*]FIFA 100[294]
[*]ESPY Awards:

  • Best Male Soccer Player: 2004[295]
  • Best MLS Player (2): 2008, 2012[296]

[*]English Football Hall of Fame: 2008[297]
[*]MLS Comeback Player of the Year Award (1): 2011[298]
 
wdcrob said:
Noted.  Is that because Vieira is a better athlete, has a better work rate, etc?

If I can get left-sided mid I like I may move Kaka into Aguero's spot and have Aguero as a sub instead too.
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That's a big part of it.  You're playing 3 in the back, you need to protect your flank.  But it's also because I think that Viera's two-way game would be wasted in DM position protecting a 3-man back line.  You need to be able to drop a CM into that back line when you're without the ball, which means Viera really shouldn't be allowed to get too far upfield.  Which takes away the reasons I assume you drafted him in the first place. 

That's just my own thought.

 
[real soccer talk] Is that three for Alli?  Does it influence the FA at all that Vardy just missed 2+?  [/real soccer talk]

 
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It's a back and forth debate between which African is the best of all time. It boils down to two players usually, and the fact that this guy has a Ballon d'Or and the other guy doesn't was the lone tiebreak for me. But you can easily make the argument that the other guy was better. This guy didn't have the international career that the other had, but then again, he played for ####### Liberia, what do you expect?

Plus, this guy is a politician, and I may need him to argue my team out of fines and fraud. :unsure:  

11.3- ST George Weah, Liberia, Milan/PSG/Monaco


Senator of Montserrado County


Incumbent


Assumed office
20 December 2014


President


Ellen Johnson Sirleaf


Vice President


Joseph Boakai


Preceded by


Joyce Musu Freeman Sumo


Personal details


Born


George Tawlon Manneh
Oppong Ousman Weah
1 October 1966 (age 49)
Monrovia, Liberia


Nationality


Liberian


Political party


Congress for Democratic Change


Height


1.84 m (6 ft 1⁄2 in)


Relations


Christopher Wreh (cousin)


Children


George Jr., Tita, Timothy


Education


Muslim Congress
Wells Hairston High School


Occupation


Footballer (retired)
Politician
Humanitarian


Association football career​


Playing position


Striker


Youth career


1981–1984


Young Survivors Claratown


1984–1985


Bongrange Company


Senior career*


Years


Team


Apps†


(Gls)†


1985–1986


Mighty Barrolle


10


(7)


1986–1987


Invincible Eleven


23


(24)


1987


Africa Sports


2


(1)


1987–1988


Tonnerre Yaoundé


18


(14)


1988–1992


Monaco


103


(47)


1992–1995


Paris Saint-Germain


96


(32)


1995–2000


Milan


114


(46)


2000


→ Chelsea (loan)


11


(3)


2000


Manchester City


7


(1)


2000–2001


Marseille


19


(5)


2001–2003


Al-Jazira


8


(13)


Total


 


411


(193)


National team


1987–2007


Liberia


60


(22)


* Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only.

† Appearances (goals)


During his prime in the 1990s, Weah was regarded as one of the best strikers in the world, and was lauded for his work-rate, as well as his physical and athletic attributes, which he combined with his finishing, technical ability, creativity and skill.[25] A fast, powerful, physically strong player, he successfully filled the void left in the Milan attack by club legend Marco van Basten.[3][25][26] In addition to his pace, dribbling skills, and goalscoring ability, Weah was also a team-player who was capable of creating chances and assisting goals for team-mates.[27][28] Along with Ronaldo and Romário, Weah was seen as a modern, new breed of striker in the 1990s who would also operate outside the penalty area and run with the ball towards goal, during a time when most strikers primarily operated inside the penalty area where they would receive the ball from team mates.[25][29][30]

Named African Footballer of the Year three times and becoming the first African to be named FIFA World Player of the Year, his prominence in the 1990s led him to be nicknamed "King George".[26] Weah received further recognition in 2004 when he was named by Pelé in the FIFA 100 list of the world's greatest living players.[2] In 2013, Italy and AC Milan legend Franco Baresi named Weah in the greatest XI he has ever played with.[31] As well as being regarded as one of the greatest African footballers of all time, during his career Weah also stood out off the pitch for his initiatives to fight racism in football.[3]

"An exceptional goalscorer, it is no exaggeration to describe him as the precursor of the multi-functional strikers of today. Quick, skilful and boasting a powerful physique, fierce shooting power and deadly finishing skills, in his pomp Liberia's 'Mr George' was rightly considered one of the giants of the game." — FIFA profile of George Weah.[25]

Player[edit]
Mighty Barrolle[edit]
Liberian Premier League: 1985–86
Liberian Cup: 1985–86
Invincible Eleven[edit]
Liberian Premier League: 1986–87
AS Monaco[edit]
Coupe de France: 1991
Paris Saint-Germain[edit]
Ligue 1: 1993–94
Coupe de France: 1992–93, 1994–95
Coupe de la Ligue: 1995
Milan[edit]
Serie A: 1995–96, 1998–99[52]
Chelsea[edit]
FA Cup: 2000
Individual[edit]
African Footballer of the Year: 1989, 1994, 1995[53]
FIFA XI: 1991, 1996 (Reserve), 1997, 1998[54]
French Division 1 Foreign Player of the Year: 1990–91[55]
UEFA Champions League Top Scorer: 1994–95[56]
BBC African Footballer of the Year: 1995[57]
Onze d'Or: 1995[58]
Ballon d'Or: 1995[59]
FIFA World Player of the Year: 1995[60]
ESM Team of the Year: 1995–96[61]
Onze d'Argent: 1996[58]
FIFA Fair Play Award: 1996[62]
FIFA World Player of the Year – Silver award: 1996[60]
IFFHS African Player of the Century: 1996[63]
World Soccer's 100 Greatest Footballers of All Time: 1999[64]
FIFA 100: 2004[65]
Arthur Ashe Courage Award 2004[66]
Golden Foot Legends Award: 2005[67]
A.C. Milan Hall of Fame[52]

 
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