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Alright....I have to ask.... (1 Viewer)

Maybe I am old school, because when I first started playing FF it was before the internet became a viable option. Back in the day, you had to score games using the USA Today box scores. All TD's were 6 pts (as they should be), and generally the only other points you were given were bonus points for 100 rush/rec/ 300 passing. Even today, the most recent league I played in scored games like this. There is no 1 pt for every 10 yds rush/rec, 25 for every pass etc. Yes, we made changes, the most significant being going from no DT or players at all to IDP's. But, the scoring has pretty much stayed the same throughout the years with only a few minor tweaks here and there.

When we first set up the league, the main premise was to make it as close to the NFL game as possible, especially when it came to scoring. You don't see NFL games end 125-100, so we didn't want ours to either. That just didn't appeal to us. In that league if you scored 35-40 points, you had a pretty good shot at winning the game, and that holds true as well in the NFL. It seems the evolution of the internet has prompted many changes to the great game of Fantasy Football.

Everyone has different things that they like, and different systems that they use. It's unfortunate but it seems to me as times have changed so have Fantasy Football Leagues. Now, there are so many different scoring systems, it makes your head spin. standard lineup requirements have changed, and simply put....the game has changed. It's not the same game it was when I first started. To some degree, I understand some of the changes, everyone prefers different things. I myself have always preferred a game that emulates the real game in as many ways as possible. Not every aspect of real football can be incorporated into FF, I understand that.

I guess the most amazing aspect that has seemingly changed in recent years to me, is the Auction style drafting. Now admittedly, I have never tried it, so maybe I shouldn't be speaking about it, but to me, the ONE thing about FF, that I thought I'd never see change over the years, is the draft. That was and is always the most enjoyable part of FF to me. The bluffing, the outmaneuvering of other owners to get a player in the draft you really want, the trading of draft picks, and just the overall ability to show your wares and football knowledge as you draft a player in the 3rd round, that no one else in the league knows about. The draft is where you can show your true football knowledge IMO.

An auction style draft, every player simply has a dollar value placed on them and you have to decide whether you want to bid on a player or not, and how much. To me, it takes away a lot of the strategy of a a real draft. Yes, you generally have a salary cap that you can't go over, but for the most part if you REALLY want a player, you simply decide to outbid everyone else. There's no trading of draft picks I don't believe, none of the true modern day strategy that goes into draft day. The basic argument I have seen for this is "everyone has a chance at every player". Is that really what you want?? Wouldn't it be more fun, and show your true knowledge and GM skills if you could build a championship team year after year, without the benefit of having access to every player?? To me, it takes more skill and more knowledge to be drafting 8th or lower every year and build a championship team year after year, without the benefit of being in a position to have access to a LJ, an LT or a Peyton Manning, because you simply pick to low every year to get them. In an auction league, you have as much chance as everyone else to get those players, and it's much easier to build a championship team.

My question is....whatever happened to good old Fantasy Football leagues?? The kind that were around when I was younger?? :excited:
:thumbup: I've been thinking this same thing for a long time now I witnessed a auction draft and it is my opnion that the auction in nowhere near as much fun as a standard draft. I see all these guys put down redrafts but that is the only way I would like to play!! :unsure:

 
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Maybe I am old school, because when I first started playing FF it was before the internet became a viable option. Back in the day, you had to score games using the USA Today box scores.
Ah, nostalgia... that's how things were done when I started as well. Remember the hype Dalton Hilliard got as a rookie? Remember the run-n-shoot?
All TD's were 6 pts (as they should be), and generally the only other points you were given were bonus points for 100 rush/rec/ 300 passing. Even today, the most recent league I played in scored games like this. There is no 1 pt for every 10 yds rush/rec, 25 for every pass etc. Yes, we made changes, the most significant being going from no DT or players at all to IDP's. But, the scoring has pretty much stayed the same throughout the years with only a few minor tweaks here and there.
We always were a HP league... QB - 1/20/Yds 4/TD, RB/WR.TE 1/10/Yds 6/TD Defensive Teams points, no IDP
When we first set up the league, the main premise was to make it as close to the NFL game as possible, especially when it came to scoring. You don't see NFL games end 125-100, so we didn't want ours to either. That just didn't appeal to us. In that league if you scored 35-40 points, you had a pretty good shot at winning the game, and that holds true as well in the NFL. It seems the evolution of the internet has prompted many changes to the great game of Fantasy Football.Everyone has different things that they like, and different systems that they use. It's unfortunate but it seems to me as times have changed so have Fantasy Football Leagues. Now, there are so many different scoring systems, it makes your head spin. standard lineup requirements have changed, and simply put....the game has changed. It's not the same game it was when I first started. To some degree, I understand some of the changes, everyone prefers different things. I myself have always preferred a game that emulates the real game in as many ways as possible. Not every aspect of real football can be incorporated into FF, I understand that.
I liked HP, and still do, because it is closer to the real game. Sure the points at the end are different, but the game is about plays, and HP gives points for plays.
I guess the most amazing aspect that has seemingly changed in recent years to me, is the Auction style drafting. Now admittedly, I have never tried it, so maybe I shouldn't be speaking about it, but to me, the ONE thing about FF, that I thought I'd never see change over the years, is the draft. That was and is always the most enjoyable part of FF to me. The bluffing, the outmaneuvering of other owners to get a player in the draft you really want, the trading of draft picks, and just the overall ability to show your wares and football knowledge as you draft a player in the 3rd round, that no one else in the league knows about. The draft is where you can show your true football knowledge IMO.
I agree 100%. I hate auctions.
My question is....whatever happened to good old Fantasy Football leagues?? The kind that were around when I was younger?? :rolleyes:
The same thing that happened with rocking chair porches, unlocked doors, American technological supremacy, good American cars, etc.
 
Do you miss the fountain pen and the Edsal too?FF has evolved dude, climb on board and embrace it!My guy rushes for 98 yards, your guy rushes for 100, you don't deserve an extra 5 or 6 points for that. Reward players for the stats they put up. Much better IMO.
Actually the fountain pen was really solid... and people had much better handwriting when they had to be more careful about the instrument they used.Edsel on the other hand, was junk. But a 50's Vette? I'd take one over any Vette built today.
 
Not sure when you started, but my first league was back in '90. We scored by hand on paper with box scores, yet we managed to have a league with 1 pt rush/rec, plus TDs. We were aware of TD only leagues, and we were aware of yardage leagues, but we thought then, as we do now, that a combination was the best (I'm not trying to claim we thought of it, just that it was the minority back then). The internet had nothing to do with deciding what the best scoring system was.
We were doing HP leagues back when Thurman Thomas was drafted...
 
ffinmyblood,

I understand your post. I remember fondly those days with scoring out of the USAToday and gatherring at someone's house to draft then each weekend to watch and tease each other all day long.

Over the internet you just can't get the same reaction to slowly turning and asking "is your team playing this week?"

When I visit my old high school I think the renovations and changes look stupid and I just don't like em'. I do realize it's good for the students and eventually I come around but it does bug me initially. Some FF trends or changes similarly bug me so FWIW....give it a sec to sink in

There IS and will always be a dramatic difference to drafting(and spending sunday) in person w/ friends and drafting over the web. I wish that league I was in was still around. Hang onto yours as long as ya can :thumbup:

 
But you know what? The beauty of the hobby is that you can choose to have things the way you want them for your own league. Just find 9 other guys who want to do a league with you. No problem.
And good luck with that, if you want a TD only league where QBs get 6pts per TD. :thumbup:
 

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