Am I going to get any flack for this trade? (1 Viewer)

[Mr.Pack]

Ok, I am the commissioner of an auction, 12 team, 2 man keeper league.

I am 7-3, in second place the points leader, and most likely will make the playoffs. I proposed a trade to a team that is 1-9 completely out of the playoff and any money for points. He accepted it.

I have a stipulation that anyone completely out of contention for the playoffs can only make a trade if they keep at least one player involved in the trade for next year.

That said, here is the trade that just went down.....

I trade: Derek Anderson $3, Priest Homes $3 and Jericho Cotchery $23

I get: Joseph Addai $88, JP Losman $6, and Shaun McDonald $3.

Am I going to receive a lot of flack and if so is it justified?

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

I'd probably give you #### if I was in your league. If it's a keeper league, why would he trade Addai for those 3? None of those 3 players are worth keeping in a keeper league.

 

[Mr.Pack]

I'd probably give you #### if I was in your league. If it's a keeper league, why would he trade Addai for those 3? None of those 3 players are worth keeping in a keeper league.

I think his plan is to keep Anderson next year for $5

 

[hokieboy]

If you are starting Losman/Addai then the trade is borderline otherwise it's terrible if you have a better QB than Losman.

 

[Mr.Pack]

If you are starting Losman/Addai then the trade it's borderline otherwise its terrible if you have a better QB than Losman.

I have Brady and Steven Jackson, Losman will be my backup.

 

[RenegadeGM]

I think the team you traded with will get tons of flack after leaguemates see the trade, and you'll take some too.

Two man keeper, and he has to keep Anderson, Holmes or Cotchery? Ouch.

If he just takes his lumps this year, and keeps Addai and whoever, he could be a contender next year.

After this trade, he'll spend the whole season catching up, unless he has an amazing draft.

Not saying this is right either, but since you're the Commish as well, that will only make owners more mad...

Personally, I wouldn't be mad at you, but the 1-9 team. But I'd also know since collusion isn't involved, that there wouldn't be anything I could do about it.

ETA: my post came before the $$$ aspect was added, but I still don't like it for the other guy. I'd rather be keeping Addai than Anderson.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

I'd probably give you #### if I was in your league. If it's a keeper league, why would he trade Addai for those 3? None of those 3 players are worth keeping in a keeper league.

I think his plan is to keep Anderson next year for $5

And I'm sure some of your leaguemates will bring up the fact that it's very possible that Anderson will be backing Brady Quinn up next year. Addai has to be one of the top 5 players right now in a keeper league. That's what makes this trade puzzling from his end.

 

[hokieboy]

Then the trade is terrible and my league would be in meltdown mode if that happened.

 

[Mr.Pack]

I think the team you traded with will get tons of flack after leaguemates see the trade, and you'll take some too.

Two man keeper, and he has to keep Anderson, Holmes or Cotchery? Ouch.

If he just takes his lumps this year, and keeps Addai and whoever, he could be a contender next year.

After this trade, he'll spend the whole season catching up, unless he has an amazing draft.

Not saying this is right either, but since you're the Commish as well, that will only make owners more mad...

Personally, I wouldn't be mad at you, but the 1-9 team. But I'd also know since collusion isn't involved, that there wouldn't be anything I could do about it.

There in no way is collusion involved. When I proposed the trade he told me he had 3 other offers on the table and was waiting to see if any of those would be turned down, if they were, then he would deal with me.

 

[Fantaholic]

The fact that it's an auction/keeper league makes it not soooo bad, because you can never question how an owner chooses to run his team. However, the age old question of whether or not teams in playoff contention should be trading with teams completely out of contention is still quesitonable, and I don't agree with it in any league format.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Ok, I just got off the phone with him. I had 2 offers on the table for him. and he accepted the wrong one. The trade now stands as this:

I still get Addai, Losman and McDonald, but I am now giving up Anderson (Who he really wants) Calvin Johnson, and Holmes.

I think that's more even and better for him for next year.

What say you?

 

[RenegadeGM]

I think the team you traded with will get tons of flack after leaguemates see the trade, and you'll take some too.

Two man keeper, and he has to keep Anderson, Holmes or Cotchery? Ouch.

If he just takes his lumps this year, and keeps Addai and whoever, he could be a contender next year.

After this trade, he'll spend the whole season catching up, unless he has an amazing draft.

Not saying this is right either, but since you're the Commish as well, that will only make owners more mad...

Personally, I wouldn't be mad at you, but the 1-9 team. But I'd also know since collusion isn't involved, that there wouldn't be anything I could do about it.

There in no way is collusion involved. When I proposed the trade he told me he had 3 other offers on the table and was waiting to see if any of those would be turned down, if they were, then he would deal with me.

That's why I said: "But I'd also know since collusion isn't involved...". Key word being "isn't".The guy could been OK next year in a two man keeper with Addai/somebody. Now he's going into the auction with Anderson/somebody while others are going in with LT, Bush, Addai, etc. He'll have more money to spend, but he'll definitely need it!

 

[Mr.Pack]

The fact that it's an auction/keeper league makes it not soooo bad, because you can never question how an owner chooses to run his team. However, the age old question of whether or not teams in playoff contention should be trading with teams completely out of contention is still quesitonable, and I don't agree with it in any league format.

What don't you agree with? That teams out of contention shouldn't be trading? I kind of agree if that's your stance. But I also have to let teams try and better themselves as they see fit for next year. Otherwise, it's not really fair.

 

[Fantaholic]

Yes, I simply do not believe in teams that are essentially done for the year having interest in making trades.

On the other hand, I did say that if it is a keeper/auction league then you can somewhat justify it. You guys aren't friends are you?

 

[BigTex]

Flake yes, collusion no, make the deal.

But, this is why trade deadlines should be in weeks 8 or 9.

 

[Shrek]

The only flak you should receive is for posting a thinly disguised AC question in the SP.

 

[Mr.Pack]

The only flak you should receive is for posting a thinly disguised AC question in the SP.

Not thinly disguised at all, not even a little bit. The trade was already accepted and I felt kind of wrong for making it even though he did accept.I think you missed the part where the trade had already been accepted. I just didn't execute immediately because of my thinking that I shouldn't have made it. Turns out the trade he meant to accept is better in my eyes and I feel better for the league about it.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Flake yes, collusion no, make the deal.But, this is why trade deadlines should be in weeks 8 or 9.

trade deadlines are for people who keep plastic covers on their couches...

 

[Londo]

What's the cap?

Addai for > $88 next year (I am assuming the price inflates each year), may not be all that ideal depending on your other choices.

In my auction keeper, we have a $200 cap and I would balk at keeping a player for nearly 50% (no matter who the player is).

Also, I like the revised trade a lot better, due to the addition of Calvin. He is a top keeper WR and is probably a very cheap keep.

 

[Mr.Pack]

What's the cap?Addai for > $88 next year (I am assuming the price inflates each year), may not be all that ideal depending on your other choices. In my auction keeper, we have a $200 cap and I would balk at keeping a player for nearly 50% (no matter who the player is). Also, I like the revised trade a lot better, due to the addition of Calvin. He is a top keeper WR and is probably a very cheap keep.

Cap is $300 at the auction and $350 in-season. I am surprised he didn't want to hold Addai over for next year, but he really wanted Anderson and Johnson ($40)

 

[HomerJones]

Yes, you'll probably receive flak, but it won't be justified. He may think Anderson is the next Tom Brady or Tony Romo, and I don't see why others should be able to substitute their judgment for his. Also, if I'm understanding your league's procedures properly, this move gives him much more flexibility with respect to obtaining players next year. Finally, why do people think they can judge a trade based only upon current circumstances? Who knows what's going to happen? Maybe Addai tears an ACL, and Anderson goes on to be a great QB for years. It's not as if you're trading someone like McNair for Addai--he's getting a young QB in a keeper league who may continue his success for years. It's an absolutely appropriate trade, in my opinion.