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NFL | Two games per year will be played outside the United States

Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:15:58 -0700

The Associated Press reports two NFL regular-season games will be played each year outside the United States in Mexico, Canada and Europe, starting in 2007. First announced last month, the plan was approved Tuesday, Oct. 24 by commissioner Roger Goodell. While no specific sites were given for the games, Britain and Germany were suggested as the likely hosts for the European games when the proposal was originally disclosed. The plan will be set up so that teams will rotate over a 16-year period, with each team playing outside the country twice over that period. Each team will play once as a visitor and once as a home team, which means a team will lose one home game over that span. Losing home-game revenue was the main objection raised by some teams, but Denver Broncos owner Pat Bowlen said the teams will get compensated. Bowlen added, "Obviously the league's going to work out the economics and if we lose a home game, we'll get compensated. We're comfortable with it. Obviously we'd like to play in Mexico or Canada and not have to travel to Europe and that's probably the way it would be set up because of our location. But as far as the league is concerned, I think it's a great idea."

 
NFL | Two games per year will be played outside the United StatesTue, 24 Oct 2006 16:15:58 -0700The Associated Press reports two NFL regular-season games will be played each year outside the United States in Mexico, Canada and Europe, starting in 2007. First announced last month, the plan was approved Tuesday, Oct. 24 by commissioner Roger Goodell. While no specific sites were given for the games, Britain and Germany were suggested as the likely hosts for the European games when the proposal was originally disclosed. The plan will be set up so that teams will rotate over a 16-year period, with each team playing outside the country twice over that period. Each team will play once as a visitor and once as a home team, which means a team will lose one home game over that span. Losing home-game revenue was the main objection raised by some teams, but Denver Broncos owner Pat Bowlen said the teams will get compensated. Bowlen added, "Obviously the league's going to work out the economics and if we lose a home game, we'll get compensated. We're comfortable with it. Obviously we'd like to play in Mexico or Canada and not have to travel to Europe and that's probably the way it would be set up because of our location. But as far as the league is concerned, I think it's a great idea."
:moneybag: ?I can't think of any other reason. It doesn't make any sense to me.
 
Why? :moneybag:

They should stick exhibition games in other countries, not regular season games. Season ticket holders get stuck paying full price for exhibition games (in addition to their regular season package) and what do the owners do? Give away a game that counts instead of those that really don't. :thumbdown:

 
This is crap and will negatively effect the teams who would normally get 8 home games each year.
Agreed. More than any other professional sport...the NFL has done what is right FOR THE GAME. However, this is not one of those decisions. Is it as big of a deal as some will make it out to be? No, but the whole thing is just a lame cash grab that (in the long run) doesn't do much to expand the NFL's market.
 
BRING THEM ALL TO CANADA!!!!

In Calgary, we have a 45K seat arena, and I live about 2 blocks from the stadium...I would LOVE to see this, rather than driving to Seattle every year.

 
NFL schedule for the 2014 season:

China vs Miami

NYJ at Iran

Minn. at Spain

SF vs Russia

St.L at Iceland

NYG vs Dallas (has to be- high ESPN rating for past 8 years)

Phila vs Cuba

Seattle at France

rest of games will be posted according to terrorist risks

enjoy this 2007 season..time will change the games galore :thumbdown:

 
I think this is a horrible idea.

#1 - its not fair to the fans of whichever team will be missing a home game. Imagine if your team plays a home game in london while every other team in your division has all of the their homes with their fans, home stadium, etc etc.

#2 - its not fair to the team to have to travel after a game overseas only to travel back for another game the following week or have it cut into their time off during the bye

 
This game should be a preseason game not a regular season game. It would still be greatly attended and still bring in money.

I am from Canada and love the NFL far more than the CFL, but why would a country that all ready has a professional league do this? I assume it is for money reasons but I think it is stupid.

 
Correct me if I am wrong, but the game in Mexico between San Fran and Arizona had like 105,000 people attend.

This is fantastic for the NFL as it actually allows people to watch the game and become interested in the sport, therefore increasing revenue on jereys, memorabilia, etc. Not to mention the TV deals which could happen in those countries as a result of the greater interest in the sport.

Preseason games don't tweak enough interest....people want to see the real players. Having regular season games is basically the only way to do this. The NFL wants to grab a larger market share outsie the United States...this is the best way to do it. Makes perfect business sense.

 
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money and the further advancement of Americas takeover of the world. Do you have any idea how many super spies we will sneak into these countries?

 
I think you guys forgot about Arizona San Fran last year. That "test" went wonderfully and dramatically increased NFL sales in mexico.

I own an FF site and have many foreign visitors.

The NFL has several other sites.

NFLEurope links to a couple different language sites and NFLLatino.com ummm...eh well there's a few.

A few years back TSN.ca wasn't a bad site at all. I haven't been in a while. Well here http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/ look for yourself, that canadian site ain't so bad at all.

Sorry but I think you guys are "in the dark". There will be foreign speaking visitors at these boards soon enough

 
I think you guys forgot about Arizona San Fran last year. That "test" went wonderfully and dramatically increased NFL sales in mexico.

I own an FF site and have many foreign visitors.

The NFL has several other sites.

NFLEurope links to a couple different language sites and NFLLatino.com ummm...eh well there's a few.

A few years back TSN.ca wasn't a bad site at all. I haven't been in a while. Well here http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/ look for yourself, that canadian site ain't so bad at all.

Sorry but I think you guys are "in the dark". There will be foreign speaking visitors at these boards soon enough
just to add one quick thing, there are Australians that frequent this board.
 
I think you guys forgot about Arizona San Fran last year. That "test" went wonderfully and dramatically increased NFL sales in mexico.

I own an FF site and have many foreign visitors.

The NFL has several other sites.

NFLEurope links to a couple different language sites and NFLLatino.com ummm...eh well there's a few.

A few years back TSN.ca wasn't a bad site at all. I haven't been in a while. Well here http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/ look for yourself, that canadian site ain't so bad at all.

Sorry but I think you guys are "in the dark". There will be foreign speaking visitors at these boards soon enough
Often comes as a surprise to other FFers to discover that there are foreigners who not only love the NFL but FF as well. And I don't mean US citizens living outside the country, I mean foreigners. The game will be taken to other countries to generate increased revenue opportunities. Once upon a time people probably thought it foolish to play baseball outside the US and now MLB is aware of how talented the players can be from other countries. It may be a while off but there will come a time when foreign players regularly fill NFL rosters.

Hopefully the discovery that there is a world outside the US border won't upset too many. :D

 
I think you guys forgot about Arizona San Fran last year. That "test" went wonderfully and dramatically increased NFL sales in mexico.

I own an FF site and have many foreign visitors.

The NFL has several other sites.

NFLEurope links to a couple different language sites and NFLLatino.com ummm...eh well there's a few.

A few years back TSN.ca wasn't a bad site at all. I haven't been in a while. Well here http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/ look for yourself, that canadian site ain't so bad at all.

Sorry but I think you guys are "in the dark". There will be foreign speaking visitors at these boards soon enough
just to add one quick thing, there are Australians that frequent this board.
Gidday :bye:
 
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All of the positives listed here I would not argue with...but all of these positives can still be accomplished by using a preseason game instead of a regular season one.

 
All of the positives listed here I would not argue with...but all of these positives can still be accomplished by using a preseason game instead of a regular season one.
:goodposting: Do you think the owners are going to somehow reduce the cost of my season tickets since there will be one less game to attend? No way!This is a major ripoff of the fans that made this league what it is to date.I am %issed!Use a damn preseason game, you know, the ones you already rip us season ticket holders up for?!
 
It may be a while off but there will come a time when foreign players regularly fill NFL rosters.Hopefully the discovery that there is a world outside the US border won't upset too many. :D
They do now only they don't often play more than ST. I believe every team can file an exemption for one foreign player and have an added roster spot. I think only a handful of teams do this.The level of play from foreigners is not there yet but NFLE has improved it. Scott McCready is a fun guy to read about if you ever have time. He has more catches in NFLE history than anyone. Having played NFLE FF, I can tell ya he's "money" in PPR. 4-5 catch lock. He's in an NFL camp most summers and returns without a contract every year. Last team I recall was the Chiefs. He's slow and not the most muscular guy but I gotta tell ya, every time I see him play I think of Chrebet and countless others that got it done. I wish I could make a team put him in a real game. I'm just certain he'd get a key 3rd down or somesuch, he's ...well, obviously they disagree with me.I believe there is a chinese(from China) player in the NFL, no roster exemption but genuinely made a team. I think I read that in September. Their might be a foreign punter in the NFL now.American talent in NFLE seems to still need another year of development after NFLE. 2 years ago, Ruvell Martin was MVP and Rich Scanlon was defensive MVP. Ruvell's playing now, as you know. Scanlon can't beat out Kawika Mitchell but now the Chiefs are finding time for him, a sorta compliment to a quality backup. (Hurt lately thought on injury report) A back, Jonathan Smith, was awesome 2 years ago but wrecked his ankle. Titans paid him last year to keep tabs on him. He couldn't come back from it. This year's guy was Roger Robinson. Arizona was impressed with him but cut him. I don't really understand that but nonetheless I wouldn't be surprised if(added year mentioned above) next year his name pops up in the NFL. So the american talent in NFLE is getting better too and that's important for the foreigner's development.All in all I think we're a few years away but it's coming. I will absolutely welcome the "try hard to prove myself in america" attitude around some of these pamperred NFL stars. It'd inadvertently force an attitude adjustment or rededication to the game by some NFL players.
 
It may be a while off but there will come a time when foreign players regularly fill NFL rosters.Hopefully the discovery that there is a world outside the US border won't upset too many. :D
They do now only they don't often play more than ST. I believe every team can file an exemption for one foreign player and have an added roster spot. I think only a handful of teams do this.The level of play from foreigners is not there yet but NFLE has improved it. Scott McCready is a fun guy to read about if you ever have time. He has more catches in NFLE history than anyone. Having played NFLE FF, I can tell ya he's "money" in PPR. 4-5 catch lock. He's in an NFL camp most summers and returns without a contract every year. Last team I recall was the Chiefs. He's slow and not the most muscular guy but I gotta tell ya, every time I see him play I think of Chrebet and countless others that got it done. I wish I could make a team put him in a real game. I'm just certain he'd get a key 3rd down or somesuch, he's ...well, obviously they disagree with me.I believe there is a chinese(from China) player in the NFL, no roster exemption but genuinely made a team. I think I read that in September. Their might be a foreign punter in the NFL now.American talent in NFLE seems to still need another year of development after NFLE. 2 years ago, Ruvell Martin was MVP and Rich Scanlon was defensive MVP. Ruvell's playing now, as you know. Scanlon can't beat out Kawika Mitchell but now the Chiefs are finding time for him, a sorta compliment to a quality backup. (Hurt lately thought on injury report) A back, Jonathan Smith, was awesome 2 years ago but wrecked his ankle. Titans paid him last year to keep tabs on him. He couldn't come back from it. This year's guy was Roger Robinson. Arizona was impressed with him but cut him. I don't really understand that but nonetheless I wouldn't be surprised if(added year mentioned above) next year his name pops up in the NFL. So the american talent in NFLE is getting better too and that's important for the foreigner's development.All in all I think we're a few years away but it's coming. I will absolutely welcome the "try hard to prove myself in america" attitude around some of these pamperred NFL stars. It'd inadvertently force an attitude adjustment or rededication to the game by some NFL players.
Definitely some foreign punters. Mat McBriar in Dallas and Ben Graham for the Jets are two Aussies playing currently. In fact, Graham played a decade in our major football code before switching to the gridiron.In the late 80's and early 90's Colin Scotts played as a LB for the Caridnals, I think, after a minor rugby career in Australia.And in the 60's a bloke by the name of Ridgwell, I think, was the Dallas punter after playing Aussie Rules for a few years.That's just the Aussies I know of so no doubt there's been others from around the world.
 
It may be a while off but there will come a time when foreign players regularly fill NFL rosters.Hopefully the discovery that there is a world outside the US border won't upset too many. :D
They do now only they don't often play more than ST. I believe every team can file an exemption for one foreign player and have an added roster spot. I think only a handful of teams do this.
NFL teams need an exemption for a foreign player? Seriously?I seem to recall that NFL-E teams needed to have some number of local and/or Euro players, but I'd be surprised if the real NFL has restrictions on non-American players.
 
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It may be a while off but there will come a time when foreign players regularly fill NFL rosters.Hopefully the discovery that there is a world outside the US border won't upset too many. :D
They do now only they don't often play more than ST. I believe every team can file an exemption for one foreign player and have an added roster spot. I think only a handful of teams do this.
NFL teams need an exemption for a foreign player? Seriously?I seem to recall that NFL-E teams needed to have some number of local and/or Euro players, but I'd be surprised if the real NFL has restrictions on non-American players.
I'll get ya a link or something. Gimme a few
 
All of the positives listed here I would not argue with...but all of these positives can still be accomplished by using a preseason game instead of a regular season one.
:goodposting: Do you think the owners are going to somehow reduce the cost of my season tickets since there will be one less game to attend? No way!This is a major ripoff of the fans that made this league what it is to date.I am %issed!Use a damn preseason game, you know, the ones you already rip us season ticket holders up for?!
Exactly. And many of those same fans pay or have paid some type of seat license or state/county tax to refurbish/rebuild their home statium. Now millions of dollars are taken away from that region and given to some foreign city? It really is bull####.
 
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International Practice Squad players are allotted to teams in two divisions every year on a rotating basis and this year teams in the AFC North and NFC East may each acquire one.

The Bengals get a roster exemption for him for the preseason, and they’re allowed to keep nine practice squad players - one over the limit - if they decide to assign him there for the regular season. There’s no way he’ll make the active roster, but at 24 and with just four years of football under his belt he says he’s here to develop his game.
http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5406
 
NFL | Two games per year will be played outside the United StatesTue, 24 Oct 2006 16:15:58 -0700The Associated Press reports two NFL regular-season games will be played each year outside the United States in Mexico, Canada and Europe, starting in 2007. First announced last month, the plan was approved Tuesday, Oct. 24 by commissioner Roger Goodell. While no specific sites were given for the games, Britain and Germany were suggested as the likely hosts for the European games when the proposal was originally disclosed. The plan will be set up so that teams will rotate over a 16-year period, with each team playing outside the country twice over that period. Each team will play once as a visitor and once as a home team, which means a team will lose one home game over that span. Losing home-game revenue was the main objection raised by some teams, but Denver Broncos owner Pat Bowlen said the teams will get compensated. Bowlen added, "Obviously the league's going to work out the economics and if we lose a home game, we'll get compensated. We're comfortable with it. Obviously we'd like to play in Mexico or Canada and not have to travel to Europe and that's probably the way it would be set up because of our location. But as far as the league is concerned, I think it's a great idea."
petty but Owners decision, not Goodell's. Also note 20 years at bottomThe NFL will stage up to two international regular-season games per seasonbeginning in 2007, further demonstrating the league’s commitment to competingin a global sports marketplace and to developing a greater presence beyond theborders of the United States.NFL club owners approved a resolution at a league meeting in New Orleanstoday that enables the league office to schedule up to two regular-season gamesper season outside the United States beginning in 2007 and continuing throughat least the 2011 campaign.“This step comes in response to the tremendous and growing interest in the NFLaround the world,” said NFL Commissioner ROGER GOODELL. “The ownersbelieve that hosting regular-season games outside the United States on a regularbasis is in the best interests of the league and will help to increase the fan base,build awareness of the NFL and grow the sport worldwide.”In 2005, the NFL staged its first-ever regular-season game outside the UnitedStates as the Arizona Cardinals hosted the San Francisco 49ers in Mexico City.A crowd of 103,467 flocked to Azteca Stadium – the largest crowd for a regularseasongame in NFL history.The NFL has engaged in almost 20 years of international activity, including thepreseason American Bowl series, the NFL Europe League, grass roots programsand customized television programming.
 
All of the positives listed here I would not argue with...but all of these positives can still be accomplished by using a preseason game instead of a regular season one.
:goodposting: Do you think the owners are going to somehow reduce the cost of my season tickets since there will be one less game to attend? No way!This is a major ripoff of the fans that made this league what it is to date.I am %issed!Use a damn preseason game, you know, the ones you already rip us season ticket holders up for?!
Exactly. And many of those same fans pay or have paid some type of seat license or state/county tax to refurbish/rebuild their home statium. Now millions of dollars are taken away from that region and given to some foreign city? It really is bull####.
suck it up....its one home game in 16 years, and it is giving fans all over the world a chance to see a game live that they never have a chance of seeing.It is great for the game....bad for you for ONE F'ING SEASON! Stop being so selfish, and think of those around the world that will get to see the game they love LIVE!
 
NFL schedule for the 2014 season:China vs Miami NYJ at IranMinn. at SpainSF vs RussiaSt.L at Iceland NYG vs Dallas (has to be- high ESPN rating for past 8 years) Phila vs CubaSeattle at Francerest of games will be posted according to terrorist risksenjoy this 2007 season..time will change the games galore :thumbdown:
Hi, what do you have for a number on the Jets-Iran game? Jets -4? Nah. How about Seattle France? France -9? Is Alexander still out? OK give me France for -110.
 
here

International Practice Squad players are allotted to teams in two divisions every year on a rotating basis and this year teams in the AFC North and NFC East may each acquire one.

The Bengals get a roster exemption for him for the preseason, and they’re allowed to keep nine practice squad players - one over the limit - if they decide to assign him there for the regular season. There’s no way he’ll make the active roster, but at 24 and with just four years of football under his belt he says he’s here to develop his game.
http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5406
The way I read that, under certain conditions teams can get a "free" international player (i.e. doesn't count against roster limits), as opposed to teams having a max # of international players or needing to file an exception.
 
All of the positives listed here I would not argue with...but all of these positives can still be accomplished by using a preseason game instead of a regular season one.
:goodposting: Do you think the owners are going to somehow reduce the cost of my season tickets since there will be one less game to attend? No way!This is a major ripoff of the fans that made this league what it is to date.I am %issed!Use a damn preseason game, you know, the ones you already rip us season ticket holders up for?!
They have had preseason games elsewhere and it just isn't nearly as popular as a regular season game. Why would some place get all excited to see the 3rd and 4th strings play each other? I don't get excited for a pre-season game compared to a reg season game/? Giving them a preseason game is not showing what the NFL is all about. Instead of seeing Jim Sorgi square off against Matt Schaub, people would be treated to a game between Manning and Vick....you tell me which would draw more interest?
 
I have no problem with the NFL expanding and showing games overseas, as long as they give the "home fans" a discount and don't make them pay for 8 games when they're only getting 7.

I think the NFL has a phenominal product, and it's only natural that they'd want to market it overseas. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that, either. Imagine the huge boost in the quality of play if other countries developed American Rules Football Leagues. Think of how few foreign athletes football is actually getting. There's a huge untapped potential there. Think of how many LaDanian Tomlinsons or Peyton Mannings or Tom Bradys or Michael Vicks that we never saw because they were born in Lithuania, or Argentina, or Japan.

 
here

International Practice Squad players are allotted to teams in two divisions every year on a rotating basis and this year teams in the AFC North and NFC East may each acquire one.

The Bengals get a roster exemption for him for the preseason, and they’re allowed to keep nine practice squad players - one over the limit - if they decide to assign him there for the regular season. There’s no way he’ll make the active roster, but at 24 and with just four years of football under his belt he says he’s here to develop his game.
http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5406
The way I read that, under certain conditions teams can get a "free" international player (i.e. doesn't count against roster limits), as opposed to teams having a max # of international players or needing to file an exception.
yeah, did I state that wrong previously? If so sorry bout that
 
The NBA won the international race among US sports and now the other 2 are scrambling to catch up.

As successful as the NFL is, I wouldn't be surprised to see the NBA doing better financially in the near future (if they aren't already), thanks to huge international interest.

 
The NBA won the international race among US sports and now the other 2 are scrambling to catch up.As successful as the NFL is, I wouldn't be surprised to see the NBA doing better financially in the near future (if they aren't already), thanks to huge international interest.
The advantage of the NBA internationaly is that young people play basketball in school for a long time now, because it is a easy game to get into. Football isn´t common at all. Also you don´t need a lot of equipment like for football. Add to that the rising number of international players and the NFL will not catch up with the NBA in the next 30 years in international popularity.
 
Think of how few foreign athletes football is actually getting. There's a huge untapped potential there. Think of how many LaDanian Tomlinsons or Peyton Mannings or Tom Bradys or Michael Vicks that we never saw because they were born in Lithuania, or Argentina, or Japan.
Spot on. It's a real shame that proposed Jonah Lomu move never got off the ground a few years ago, because that might have opened some eyes; the South Seas might be a prolific source for NFL players one day. I often wonder how Jason Robinson would have got on if he'd tried the NFL; sad thing is most people reading this board won't know who he is, but think a combination of Warrick Dunn and Tiki, only much quicker and a little more powerful. But more to the point, developing the NFL worldwide means kids get into the game at an earlier age, and learn the nuances.Maybe in fifty years' time it will actually mean something when the Superbowl winners are proclaimed the "World Champions".There's no reason why Football has to be a US-only-sport, any more than why soccer (yuk) or rugby had to stay British-only sports.(posted by a British FBG member, NFL-loving, soccer-hating).
 
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All of the positives listed here I would not argue with...but all of these positives can still be accomplished by using a preseason game instead of a regular season one.
:goodposting: Do you think the owners are going to somehow reduce the cost of my season tickets since there will be one less game to attend? No way!This is a major ripoff of the fans that made this league what it is to date.I am %issed!Use a damn preseason game, you know, the ones you already rip us season ticket holders up for?!
Exactly. And many of those same fans pay or have paid some type of seat license or state/county tax to refurbish/rebuild their home statium. Now millions of dollars are taken away from that region and given to some foreign city? It really is bull####.
suck it up....its one home game in 16 years, and it is giving fans all over the world a chance to see a game live that they never have a chance of seeing.It is great for the game....bad for you for ONE F'ING SEASON! Stop being so selfish, and think of those around the world that will get to see the game they love LIVE!
If they want to see more of the F'ing game they love, then move to AMERICA! It is America's game! It is my home team. I could give a @#$%# less about some guy in Serbia getting to see the Colts just because he loves da futbol!My tax $$$ are paying for the new stadium, do you even have a team in your city? Do you have season tix? I bet not!
 
All of the positives listed here I would not argue with...but all of these positives can still be accomplished by using a preseason game instead of a regular season one.
:goodposting: Do you think the owners are going to somehow reduce the cost of my season tickets since there will be one less game to attend? No way!This is a major ripoff of the fans that made this league what it is to date.I am %issed!Use a damn preseason game, you know, the ones you already rip us season ticket holders up for?!
They have had preseason games elsewhere and it just isn't nearly as popular as a regular season game. Why would some place get all excited to see the 3rd and 4th strings play each other? I don't get excited for a pre-season game compared to a reg season game/? Giving them a preseason game is not showing what the NFL is all about. Instead of seeing Jim Sorgi square off against Matt Schaub, people would be treated to a game between Manning and Vick....you tell me which would draw more interest?
If you want to take it overseas, fine. Tell the teams going that they have to play their starters for the first half of a PRESEASON game. Make it the 3rd preseason game, the one where the starters usually play into the second half anyway.To take a game away from a city that has built your franchise and league is just WRONG, period.
 
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Hell, next thing you know, NASCAR will be moving the Daytona 500 to Aussie land for a year to generate more interest in the sport.

Good grief!

 
Didn't happen to notice a smallish event on our Gold Coast last weekend did ya? Something about Champ Cars or somesuch.

To take a game away from a city that has built your franchile and league is just WRONG, period.
I believe Georgia Frontiere and Al Davis have a different view on this matter too.
 
Didn't happen to notice a smallish event on our Gold Coast last weekend did ya? Something about Champ Cars or somesuch.

To take a game away from a city that has built your franchile and league is just WRONG, period.
I believe Georgia Frontiere and Al Davis have a different view on this matter too.
Well, ofcourse the owner want this move. I am talking about the fans of these cities!
 

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