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[Gottabesweet]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

 

[General Tso]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

 

[Bri]

They're both excellent. It'll be a battle all day. I don't think Andre's having a great day nor Champ shutting him down completely.

They throw to Andre almost too often. Champ may get some INTs but Andre will get his.

 

[Interseptopus]

Denver hasn't faced a talent like Johnson all season long...

You can argue IND, GB, PIT... but Harrison hasn't been the stud AJ is since 2005, GB is more talent across the board, and PIT has a young Holmes, who isn't in the same class as AJ...

Chances of him laying an egg... low...

Chances of him having a 100 yard game... low, but then again what do I have to base that off of. again, they haven't faced anyone like AJ all season.

Your guess is as good as the next person's. I'll say it'll be a shoot out, so start AJ. NEVER bench your studs

 

[General Tso]

They're both excellent. It'll be a battle all day. I don't think Andre's having a great day nor Champ shutting him down completely.They throw to Andre almost too often. Champ may get some INTs but Andre will get his.

Hi Brian. I have to disagree though. I think AJ will lay a big egg. Champ is just too darn tough on opposing receivers. AJ is a big talent, don't get me wrong. He's tall too. But he will lay an egg with Champ smothering him all day long. Count on it!

 

[Interseptopus]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

What does location have ANYTHING to do with who gets most of the attention? And last I checked, the RB didn't line up opposite of the other team's #1 WR...

 

[General Tso]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

What does location have ANYTHING to do with who gets most of the attention? And last I checked, the RB didn't line up opposite of the other team's #1 WR...

Well, yeah, of course the WR doesn't line up against the RB. Duh! All I'm saying is, in Reliant Stadium, and with Denver RB's enjoying great successes recently, you'd be folly to think that RB's wouldn't be the focal point of the Denver attack. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THIS????????

 

[To commish is my wish]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

What does location have ANYTHING to do with who gets most of the attention? And last I checked, the RB didn't line up opposite of the other team's #1 WR...

Well, yeah, of course the WR doesn't line up against the RB. Duh! All I'm saying is, in Reliant Stadium, and with Denver RB's enjoying great successes recently, you'd be folly to think that RB's wouldn't be the focal point of the Denver attack. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THIS????????

The original poster's question concerns the Houston offense, not Denver's.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

What does location have ANYTHING to do with who gets most of the attention? And last I checked, the RB didn't line up opposite of the other team's #1 WR...

Well, yeah, of course the WR doesn't line up against the RB. Duh! All I'm saying is, in Reliant Stadium, and with Denver RB's enjoying great successes recently, you'd be folly to think that RB's wouldn't be the focal point of the Denver attack. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THIS????????

what does that have to do with denvers defense of A.J ?

 

[General Tso]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

What does location have ANYTHING to do with who gets most of the attention? And last I checked, the RB didn't line up opposite of the other team's #1 WR...

Well, yeah, of course the WR doesn't line up against the RB. Duh! All I'm saying is, in Reliant Stadium, and with Denver RB's enjoying great successes recently, you'd be folly to think that RB's wouldn't be the focal point of the Denver attack. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THIS????????

The original poster's question concerns the Houston offense, not Denver's.

I understand that Commish, and I appreciate your interest. But you have to understand, the Denver Running game is in fact integrally tied to Andre Johnson's impending performance. More runs means less time for Andre to do his stuff. It gets into a grind-em-out type of game that Houston would then fall into. I think AJ is rendered useless in this type of offensive scheme. PLUS - we haven't even touched on Champ Bailey's abilities now have we??? How can you refute that!!!!

 

[General Tso]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

What does location have ANYTHING to do with who gets most of the attention? And last I checked, the RB didn't line up opposite of the other team's #1 WR...

Well, yeah, of course the WR doesn't line up against the RB. Duh! All I'm saying is, in Reliant Stadium, and with Denver RB's enjoying great successes recently, you'd be folly to think that RB's wouldn't be the focal point of the Denver attack. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THIS????????

what does that have to do with denvers defense of A.J ?

Dude - don't be sarcastic with me and post all sorts of insulting cartoon figures. See my prior post to the Commish above. If that doesn't elucidate things then I'm afraid I can't help you.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Could he lay an egg? Absolutely. He could have laid one against a very tough Pass defense in TB too.

But, what are you going to do? Start your 4th, 5th, or injury mandating 6th receiver over him? On ppg basis, he's around 3 or 4 in most leagues.

Receivers from Green Bay beat Bailey deep. I'm a HUGE Greg Jennings fan, and Donald Driver may be extremely underrated--but no one on Green Bay's roster is the talent that Johnson is.

He's a stud, and a must start. I mean, if you have Owens/Moss/Houshmandzadeh....stop and think about it, but "my leagues so competitive that..."

 

[Routilla]

While Champ may have some success with AJ I don't think Bly will on the other side. If you think AJ will line-up on Champ's side all day you are fooling yourself.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Andre Johnson, WR HOU

News: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest.

Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

 

[General Tso]

Could he lay an egg? Absolutely. He could have laid one against a very tough Pass defense in TB too.But, what are you going to do? Start your 4th, 5th, or injury mandating 6th receiver over him? On ppg basis, he's around 3 or 4 in most leagues.Receivers from Green Bay beat Bailey deep. I'm a HUGE Greg Jennings fan, and Donald Driver may be extremely underrated--but no one on Green Bay's roster is the talent that Johnson is.He's a stud, and a must start. I mean, if you have Owens/Moss/Houshmandzadeh....stop and think about it, but "my leagues so competitive that..."

Be careful. Busted Knuckles will tell you that Greg Jennings has absolutely nothing to do with Andre Johnson. I understand your point, and I appreciate it.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

What does location have ANYTHING to do with who gets most of the attention? And last I checked, the RB didn't line up opposite of the other team's #1 WR...

Well, yeah, of course the WR doesn't line up against the RB. Duh! All I'm saying is, in Reliant Stadium, and with Denver RB's enjoying great successes recently, you'd be folly to think that RB's wouldn't be the focal point of the Denver attack. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THIS????????

what does that have to do with denvers defense of A.J ?

Dude - don't be sarcastic with me and post all sorts of insulting cartoon figures. See my prior post to the Commish above. If that doesn't elucidate things then I'm afraid I can't help you.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Could he lay an egg? Absolutely. He could have laid one against a very tough Pass defense in TB too.But, what are you going to do? Start your 4th, 5th, or injury mandating 6th receiver over him? On ppg basis, he's around 3 or 4 in most leagues.Receivers from Green Bay beat Bailey deep. I'm a HUGE Greg Jennings fan, and Donald Driver may be extremely underrated--but no one on Green Bay's roster is the talent that Johnson is.He's a stud, and a must start. I mean, if you have Owens/Moss/Houshmandzadeh....stop and think about it, but "my leagues so competitive that..."

Be careful. Busted Knuckles will tell you that Greg Jennings has absolutely nothing to do with Andre Johnson. I understand your point, and I appreciate it.

.....your being really strange

 

[Routilla]

The real question is.......how will this affect Tatum Bell?

 

[General Tso]

Andre Johnson, WR HOUNews: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest. Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

 

[Jon_Moore]

The real question is.......how will this affect Tatum Bell?

While it's clearly a ploy to motivate him, none of the previous ploys have workedSo, I'm going to go with not at all.

 

[Routilla]

The real question is.......how will this affect Tatum Bell?

While it's clearly a ploy to motivate him, none of the previous ploys have workedSo, I'm going to go with not at all.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

What was Champ's credibility score at the Indy Combine again? I know AJ had a 109.6,

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Andre Johnson, WR HOUNews: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest. Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

........forget your meds tonight ?Look...he`s a # 1 reciever...it`s the playoffs ...ALWAYS start your studs...lets see , maybe i should start K.Curtis over andre instead. Bro` relax...i understand you think A.J is a bad play because denver might run for 600 yards and houston will have the ball for about 5 minutes all game and Bailey is the greatest cb to ever play the game but i still have to put A.J in my lineup...sorry if that upsets you.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Andre Johnson, WR HOUNews: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest. Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

Again, didn't he get beat a couple of times against Green Bay? Yes, Bailey can shut him down, but couldn't Ronde Barber? Here's a kicker...Tampa ranks 4th against the pass, Denver ranks 7th. He got 9 for 82 and a score against number 4, it's very possible that Johnson has a good game. Tampa ranks 2nd in points allowedDenver ranks 29thSo, there's a chance Houston puts some points up, and when he's been in there, Johnson has been heart of the offense. I doubt he's matched up on Bailey every play

 

[General Tso]

What was Champ's credibility score at the Indy Combine again? I know AJ had a 109.6,

Ihave no idea what numbers you are referring to. I do know that Champ tested extremely well in the college entry draft. I'm sure AJ did as well. But you still haven't answered my question.... How many TD's has Champ given up this year?????Until I hear otherwise I am unconvinced that AJ will do anything but a lot of running around on Thursday.

 

[Routilla]

What was Champ's credibility score at the Indy Combine again? I know AJ had a 109.6,

Ihave no idea what numbers you are referring to. I do know that Champ tested extremely well in the college entry draft. I'm sure AJ did as well. But you still haven't answered my question.... How many TD's has Champ given up this year?????Until I hear otherwise I am unconvinced that AJ will do anything but a lot of running around on Thursday.

What happens when AJ lines up opposite of Dre Bly?

 

[General Tso]

Andre Johnson, WR HOUNews: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest. Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

........forget your meds tonight ?Look...he`s a # 1 reciever...it`s the playoffs ...ALWAYS start your studs...lets see , maybe i should start K.Curtis over andre instead. Bro` relax...i understand you think A.J is a bad play because denver might run for 600 yards and houston will have the ball for about 5 minutes all game and Bailey is the greatest cb to ever play the game but i still have to put A.J in my lineup...sorry if that upsets you.

No need to get personal here, OK? You think my position is crap and I feel the same way about yours. Let's leave it at that and still be respectable towards each other. But I still have to warn you that Champ on Andre Johnson is a very bad scenario for you and anyone else who plans to roll this dice. It's just not supported by the facts. Denver is number 6 against the pass!!!! What else do you need to hear??????

 

[General Tso]

What was Champ's credibility score at the Indy Combine again? I know AJ had a 109.6,

Ihave no idea what numbers you are referring to. I do know that Champ tested extremely well in the college entry draft. I'm sure AJ did as well. But you still haven't answered my question.... How many TD's has Champ given up this year?????Until I hear otherwise I am unconvinced that AJ will do anything but a lot of running around on Thursday.

What happens when AJ lines up opposite of Dre Bly?

Hmmm. Last I heard it was the defense that chose who they wanted to guard, no? Why would Shanny choose to have his best cover guy not being blanketing the best WR of Houston???

 

[SSOG]

Andre Johnson, WR HOUNews: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest. Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

More TDs than he gave up last year.Champ is the best CB in the league, but he's having a little bit of an off year (with an off year for Champ meaning he's playing great despite the entire defense crumbling around him, rather than playing sublimely with the entire defense crumbling around him). Regardless, he's mostly been manning one side of the field this year, so if Houston wants to put Johnson on Bly, they can get that matchup pretty easily. Not that Bly is playing much worse- the only three bright spots on Denver's defense have been Bailey, Bly, and Dumervil. By far and away the strength of Denver's defense has been its coveraging of opposing wideouts.Still, with that said, Andre Johnson is a supreme talent who is an integral part of that offense. He's going to get a lot of targets, just because there's almost no one else to throw to (although Daniels is a solid play this week). Even if he only averages 5 yards per target (which means Champ and Bly did their job exceptionally well), if he gets 12 targets that's still 60 yards. And you're going to see very few WRs who are more likely to blow up for a huge game, which makes Johnson a must-start in the fantasy playoffs, regardless of who else you have on your roster.Only once this season has Johnson been held without a TD. Only once has he been held below 80 yards. Only twice has he had fewer than 10 targets (his first two weeks back from injury as he was working his way back into the offense). He's averaging more points per game than anyone except for Randy Moss (and yes, that includes Terrell Owens). I don't care who he's playing, you CAN NOT BENCH ANDRE JOHNSON. You just can't.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Andre Johnson, WR HOUNews: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest. Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

........forget your meds tonight ?Look...he`s a # 1 reciever...it`s the playoffs ...ALWAYS start your studs...lets see , maybe i should start K.Curtis over andre instead. Bro` relax...i understand you think A.J is a bad play because denver might run for 600 yards and houston will have the ball for about 5 minutes all game and Bailey is the greatest cb to ever play the game but i still have to put A.J in my lineup...sorry if that upsets you.

No need to get personal here, OK? You think my position is crap and I feel the same way about yours. Let's leave it at that and still be respectable towards each other. But I still have to warn you that Champ on Andre Johnson is a very bad scenario for you and anyone else who plans to roll this dice. It's just not supported by the facts. Denver is number 6 against the pass!!!! What else do you need to hear??????

Personal ?....i guess i was right about the meds after all....i must have hit a sore spot...just dont double up on them , wait until the next time and take the normal dose.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Andre Johnson, WR HOU

News: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest.

Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

........forget your meds tonight ?Look...he`s a # 1 reciever...it`s the playoffs ...ALWAYS start your studs...lets see , maybe i should start K.Curtis over andre instead. Bro` relax...i understand you think A.J is a bad play because denver might run for 600 yards and houston will have the ball for about 5 minutes all game and Bailey is the greatest cb to ever play the game but i still have to put A.J in my lineup...sorry if that upsets you.

No need to get personal here, OK? You think my position is crap and I feel the same way about yours. Let's leave it at that and still be respectable towards each other. But I still have to warn you that Champ on Andre Johnson is a very bad scenario for you and anyone else who plans to roll this dice. It's just not supported by the facts. Denver is number 6 against the pass!!!! What else do you need to hear??????

Ok, it's a bad matchup, not gonna deny it, BUT. What do you suggest Johnson Owners do? 12 teams--start 3. If you put the #4 in in place of Johnson, you're looking at #48-59. Guys like...Porter, Toomer,James Jones, Michael Jenkins, Hilliard, Roydell Williams

Which uh...which one of those guys should I roll with over Johnson?

 

[SSOG]

What was Champ's credibility score at the Indy Combine again? I know AJ had a 109.6,

Ihave no idea what numbers you are referring to. I do know that Champ tested extremely well in the college entry draft. I'm sure AJ did as well. But you still haven't answered my question.... How many TD's has Champ given up this year?????Until I hear otherwise I am unconvinced that AJ will do anything but a lot of running around on Thursday.

What happens when AJ lines up opposite of Dre Bly?

Toast is made?

Bly's actually playing very well this season. Everyone remembers the Jennings bomb (which was pretty much an indefensible pass), as well as a couple of other big plays that he's given up, but everyone gives up big plays under these rules. Bly's been pretty consistent, and he makes as many big plays as he allows. Despite struggling to pressure the passer and being forced to play its safeties up against the run rather than letting them help over the top, Denver's actually played extremely well against opposing #1 and #2 wideouts.

Hmmm. Last I heard it was the defense that chose who they wanted to guard, no? Why would Shanny choose to have his best cover guy not being blanketing the best WR of Houston???

Because for the vast majority of the past two seasons, Shanahan has just left Champ Bailey on the defensive left side of the field and had him cover whoever lines up across from him?Seriously, you'd think this was common knowledge for someone who was accusing everyone else in this thread of not doing their homework.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Actually it would be 37-48

so

Andre Davis

Bruce

Reggie Williams

Hester

Ginn

Walter

2 of the guys in this range are playing for Houston...

 

[General Tso]

Andre Johnson, WR HOUNews: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest. Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

........forget your meds tonight ?Look...he`s a # 1 reciever...it`s the playoffs ...ALWAYS start your studs...lets see , maybe i should start K.Curtis over andre instead. Bro` relax...i understand you think A.J is a bad play because denver might run for 600 yards and houston will have the ball for about 5 minutes all game and Bailey is the greatest cb to ever play the game but i still have to put A.J in my lineup...sorry if that upsets you.

No need to get personal here, OK? You think my position is crap and I feel the same way about yours. Let's leave it at that and still be respectable towards each other. But I still have to warn you that Champ on Andre Johnson is a very bad scenario for you and anyone else who plans to roll this dice. It's just not supported by the facts. Denver is number 6 against the pass!!!! What else do you need to hear??????

Personal ?....i guess i was right about the meds after all....i must have hit a sore spot...just dont double up on them , wait until the next time and take the normal dose.

As always, I'm going to take the high road and refrain from personal attacks. My time here is done. You've been warned Knuckles. If you still want to start AJ then there's noithing I can do at this point. Just remember me when AJ is sucking wind this Thursday with 3 catches for 41 yards. OK?

 

[Routilla]

What was Champ's credibility score at the Indy Combine again? I know AJ had a 109.6,

Ihave no idea what numbers you are referring to. I do know that Champ tested extremely well in the college entry draft. I'm sure AJ did as well. But you still haven't answered my question.... How many TD's has Champ given up this year?????Until I hear otherwise I am unconvinced that AJ will do anything but a lot of running around on Thursday.

What happens when AJ lines up opposite of Dre Bly?

Hmmm. Last I heard it was the defense that chose who they wanted to guard, no? Why would Shanny choose to have his best cover guy not being blanketing the best WR of Houston???

If DEN changes their scheme on each play for Champ to line up everywhere AJ does then you can bet DEN will be giving up some big plays. I think DEN will try to win the game and use CHAMP to limit one side of the field. AJ will not always be on that side of the field. DEN is giving up 195 per game through the air. Their last 3 road games they have allowed 44, 37 and 34 points. How can you not start AJ? Do you think HOU will ignore their #1WR just because Champ covers him some of the time?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Andre Johnson, WR HOUNews: Denver's secondary is mortal after all, yielding six passing scores in their last four games. That's music to Andre Johnson's ears as he'll play against that secondary at home in Week 15 on Thursday night. In six games this season, Johnson has six touchdowns, not scoring in just one contest. Analysis: They don't come any hotter or any more reliable than Johnson (well, maybe Terrell Owens would have something to say about that). The former Miami Hurricane is a must-start No. 1 Fantasy WR in Week 15.

You see? That is why I don't rely on Fantasy Football sites. Just because the guy has had success doesn't mean he is a good start. Dose it? Champ Bailey changes the equation totally. AJ is a huge talent, and he is a very big guy, but Champ has the speed and the credibility to SHUT HIM DOWN. How many TD's has Champ Bailey given up to opposing WR's this year? HUH???? Have you even analyzed that Mr. Bare Knuckle Brawler? You should do a little investigatory work first before posting.

........forget your meds tonight ?Look...he`s a # 1 reciever...it`s the playoffs ...ALWAYS start your studs...lets see , maybe i should start K.Curtis over andre instead. Bro` relax...i understand you think A.J is a bad play because denver might run for 600 yards and houston will have the ball for about 5 minutes all game and Bailey is the greatest cb to ever play the game but i still have to put A.J in my lineup...sorry if that upsets you.

No need to get personal here, OK? You think my position is crap and I feel the same way about yours. Let's leave it at that and still be respectable towards each other. But I still have to warn you that Champ on Andre Johnson is a very bad scenario for you and anyone else who plans to roll this dice. It's just not supported by the facts. Denver is number 6 against the pass!!!! What else do you need to hear??????

Personal ?....i guess i was right about the meds after all....i must have hit a sore spot...just dont double up on them , wait until the next time and take the normal dose.

As always, I'm going to take the high road and refrain from personal attacks. My time here is done. You've been warned Knuckles. If you still want to start AJ then there's noithing I can do at this point. Just remember me when AJ is sucking wind this Thursday with 3 catches for 41 yards. OK?

Thanks for the warning

 

[General Tso]

What was Champ's credibility score at the Indy Combine again? I know AJ had a 109.6,

Ihave no idea what numbers you are referring to. I do know that Champ tested extremely well in the college entry draft. I'm sure AJ did as well. But you still haven't answered my question.... How many TD's has Champ given up this year?????Until I hear otherwise I am unconvinced that AJ will do anything but a lot of running around on Thursday.

What happens when AJ lines up opposite of Dre Bly?

Toast is made?

Bly's actually playing very well this season. Everyone remembers the Jennings bomb (which was pretty much an indefensible pass), as well as a couple of other big plays that he's given up, but everyone gives up big plays under these rules. Bly's been pretty consistent, and he makes as many big plays as he allows. Despite struggling to pressure the passer and being forced to play its safeties up against the run rather than letting them help over the top, Denver's actually played extremely well against opposing #1 and #2 wideouts.

Hmmm. Last I heard it was the defense that chose who they wanted to guard, no? Why would Shanny choose to have his best cover guy not being blanketing the best WR of Houston???

Because for the vast majority of the past two seasons, Shanahan has just left Champ Bailey on the defensive left side of the field and had him cover whoever lines up across from him?Seriously, you'd think this was common knowledge for someone who was accusing everyone else in this thread of not doing their homework.

HUH? I don't get it. In one sentence you seem to be defending me bu tin another you crucify me and insult me? Since when does Shanny restrict Champ to the left side? Have you even watched Denver football this year? Last week he covered Bowe regardles sof where he lined up on the scrimmage. 2 catches for 35 yards. CAN YOU FEEL THAT?!?!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

What was Champ's credibility score at the Indy Combine again? I know AJ had a 109.6,

Ihave no idea what numbers you are referring to. I do know that Champ tested extremely well in the college entry draft. I'm sure AJ did as well. But you still haven't answered my question.... How many TD's has Champ given up this year?????Until I hear otherwise I am unconvinced that AJ will do anything but a lot of running around on Thursday.

What happens when AJ lines up opposite of Dre Bly?

Toast is made?

Bly's actually playing very well this season. Everyone remembers the Jennings bomb (which was pretty much an indefensible pass), as well as a couple of other big plays that he's given up, but everyone gives up big plays under these rules. Bly's been pretty consistent, and he makes as many big plays as he allows. Despite struggling to pressure the passer and being forced to play its safeties up against the run rather than letting them help over the top, Denver's actually played extremely well against opposing #1 and #2 wideouts.

Hmmm. Last I heard it was the defense that chose who they wanted to guard, no? Why would Shanny choose to have his best cover guy not being blanketing the best WR of Houston???

Because for the vast majority of the past two seasons, Shanahan has just left Champ Bailey on the defensive left side of the field and had him cover whoever lines up across from him?Seriously, you'd think this was common knowledge for someone who was accusing everyone else in this thread of not doing their homework.

HUH? I don't get it. In one sentence you seem to be defending me bu tin another you crucify me and insult me? Since when does Shanny restrict Champ to the left side? Have you even watched Denver football this year? Last week he covered Bowe regardles sof where he lined up on the scrimmage. 2 catches for 35 yards. CAN YOU FEEL THAT?!?!

i thought you were leaving seeing everyones ''insulting you''....quirky personality but you do facinate me at some strange level

 

[Interseptopus]

Champ will probably be on him all day, do they move him around to see if they can get him an isolated matchup on Bly?

That's a really good point about Champ. I hadn't thought about that. I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention.

What does location have ANYTHING to do with who gets most of the attention? And last I checked, the RB didn't line up opposite of the other team's #1 WR...

Well, yeah, of course the WR doesn't line up against the RB. Duh! All I'm saying is, in Reliant Stadium, and with Denver RB's enjoying great successes recently, you'd be folly to think that RB's wouldn't be the focal point of the Denver attack. WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THIS????????

what does that have to do with denvers defense of A.J ?

Dude - don't be sarcastic with me and post all sorts of insulting cartoon figures. See my prior post to the Commish above. If that doesn't elucidate things then I'm afraid I can't help you.

No, he made my point exactly... you say "I am facing AJ this week and to be homnest I am not that scared. I have a hunch AJ WILL in fact lay a big egg against Denver. The game is in Houston where you would think the Denver RB's would get the preponderence of the attention."So you think AJ will lay an egg beecause it's played in Houston (what many would consider a check mark in the "he will have a good game" category for AJ) and because the Denver RBs will play well and be a focal point in their attack...

Okay.... do you realize that ANDRE JOHNSON plays for HOUSTON, NOT Denver........... so whatever player Denver uses in their focal point of attack has NOTHING to do with Andre Johnson and how well he will play... Also, what does the location have anything to do with who Denver focuses in their attack???? Houston has a retractable roof if I am not mistaken, so you can't even fall back on weather....and Cutler had a career day last week... and Javon Walker is in the process of coming back... so wouldn't you think their passing would be a greater attack? Oh yeah, and WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANDRE JOHNSON PLAYING FOR HOUSTON'S OFFENSE!?!??!?!?

holy #### there should be an IQ test before being allowed to register for the forums....

The real question is.......how will this affect Tatum Bell?

While it's clearly a ploy to motivate him, none of the previous ploys have worked

hahahahahahahahaha I remember this. I got a nice friendly warning from a forum moderator for saying that last year...

 

[Interseptopus]

Man, this General Tso is just a complete idiot.

I actually wasted time reading some of his posts... he doesn't do his homework and makes no sense. My guess is he's 15 years old... just likes to hear himself talk and doesn't know jack about much of anything

over/under anyone?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Man, this General Tso is just a complete idiot.I actually wasted time reading some of his posts... he doesn't do his homework and makes no sense. My guess is he's 15 years old... just likes to hear himself talk and doesn't know jack about much of anythingover/under anyone?

I was thinking 13....a strange 13

 

[SSOG]

HUH? I don't get it. In one sentence you seem to be defending me bu tin another you crucify me and insult me? Since when does Shanny restrict Champ to the left side? Have you even watched Denver football this year? Last week he covered Bowe regardles sof where he lined up on the scrimmage. 2 catches for 35 yards. CAN YOU FEEL THAT?!?!

The reason you don't get it is because you take everything as a personal insult of the highest order. Seriously, I CRUCIFIED YOU? I nailed you up on a cross to be publicly ridiculed while you slowly died from exposure, blood loss, and suffocation? I didn't insult you, I just said that you shouldn't be so quick to tell other people to do their homework unless you had done yours, first.Your main problem, outside of being hypersensitive to every perceived sleight, is that you simply cannot allow for the possibility of a gray area. You think Champ Bailey is the best cornerback on the face of the planet. Nothing wrong with that- I happen to agree, and have been one of Champ's most vociferous supporters. Seriously, I've pretty much been the standard-bearer for the "Champ Bailey is a better CB than Deion Sanders" argument for about a year now. Do a quick search and you'll see what I mean. The problem is that, even if Bailey is a stud, that doesn't mean you automatically sit every player that might happen to line up against him for a few snaps. Champ Bailey can be the best CB in the league and still give up a TD. He's done it at least three times so far this season by my count. Hell, Bailey got burned by the unstoppable Grossman-to-Berrian connection for the score that cost Denver the game. Or did you not remember that?

Also, since you asked, I have been known to watch a Denver game or two from time to time, despite your attempts to "crucify me" and imply otherwise.

 

[Jon_Moore]

Easy guys, no need to bust out the names.

He's got an opinion, and a decent reason to back it up.

My question to you: General Tsao

Assuming Johnson is going to play bad, who would you recommend starting over him--that's a plausible wr4 or wr5?

 

[Interseptopus]

HUH? I don't get it. In one sentence you seem to be defending me bu tin another you crucify me and insult me? Since when does Shanny restrict Champ to the left side? Have you even watched Denver football this year? Last week he covered Bowe regardles sof where he lined up on the scrimmage. 2 catches for 35 yards. CAN YOU FEEL THAT?!?!

The reason you don't get it is because you take everything as a personal insult of the highest order. Seriously, I CRUCIFIED YOU? I nailed you up on a cross to be publicly ridiculed while you slowly died from exposure, blood loss, and suffocation? I didn't insult you, I just said that you shouldn't be so quick to tell other people to do their homework unless you had done yours, first.Your main problem, outside of being hypersensitive to every perceived sleight, is that you simply cannot allow for the possibility of a gray area. You think Champ Bailey is the best cornerback on the face of the planet. Nothing wrong with that- I happen to agree, and have been one of Champ's most vociferous supporters. Seriously, I've pretty much been the standard-bearer for the "Champ Bailey is a better CB than Deion Sanders" argument for about a year now. Do a quick search and you'll see what I mean. The problem is that, even if Bailey is a stud, that doesn't mean you automatically sit every player that might happen to line up against him for a few snaps. Champ Bailey can be the best CB in the league and still give up a TD. He's done it at least three times so far this season by my count. Hell, Bailey got burned by the unstoppable Grossman-to-Berrian connection for the score that cost Denver the game. Or did you not remember that?

Also, since you asked, I have been known to watch a Denver game or two from time to time, despite your attempts to "crucify me" and imply otherwise.

By far my favorite poster in the forums...

 

[JMJ]

I have two WR spots for the following three players:

TJ Houshmanzedeh

Andre Johnson

Brandon Marshall

TJ has been doing nothing averaging only 5 points per game over the past 3 weeks while Johnson and Marshall have both been on a tear overaging 11+ and 15 points respectively over that same timeframe. While TJ has been playing like crap, he is playing vs. SF this weekend which is always intriguing. Andre is playing vs. Champ but can you really sit him? And Marshall while not as big of a name as the other two has been streaking and is playing vs. a not-so-daunting Houston defense.

This is why I'm interested in this thread and I'm torn on what to do.

Oh well ..... thanks for not caring.

 

[softball]

I've said many many times, and the numbers posted in above posts show it.

Champ Bailey is overrated.

He is a very good player, but the Denver D has no pass rush and because of it Bailey is exposed as not being able to stick onto Wrs.

He's excellent when he has help, he doesn't have it. And if you look at last years second half when the Broncos D-linemen remembered they were ex-Browns; Bailey started to give up Tds then.

He cannot truly cover guys, he can defend them. There is a difference.

 

[swirvenirvin]

Tso has some major anger problems, he also does not make a lot of sense in his postings.

Anyways I think AJ is a must play unless you got 2 other top 12 WR's this week

 

[Da Guru]

Kevin Walter could have a nice day. 70-80 and a TD.

 

[Krewe]

My opponent has AJ going this week, and after going through 48 posts here I have no more insight into his prospects than I did at the start.

However, I was entertained.

Much obliged, fellas. Back to the brawl.

 

[General Tso]

Tso has some major anger problems, he also does not make a lot of sense in his postings.Anyways I think AJ is a must place unless you got 2 other top 12 WR's this week

Sorry guys if I came acrost belligerently last night. I do get agitated sometimes if I have a few drinks But today I am back to the same old General Tso! I an trust you all that I am NOT a fighter!I still feel strongly about the points I made last night. AJ is good - maybe even great at times - no arguments from me. BUT- we are talking about two things here - Champ Bailey who shuts down corners - and the fact that nobody seems to understand around here - DENVER is going to RUN THE BALL!!! And yes - I know AJ is on Houston. IF the other runs the ball all night which Denver will do since it is away game - then fewer times for AJ to catch!!!! I don't know why this is so hard for you all to understand.