Andre Johnson's surgical procedure.... (1 Viewer)

[kencav]

Houston Texans WR Andre Johnson (hamstring) did have a true surgical procedure after all, not the blood platelet-injection treatment originally reported, according to Stephanie Stradley of the Houston Chronicle.

"I received information from a source I trust that contrary to my previous post, Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson did have a surgical procedure on the distal tendon of his hamstring," wrote Stradley. There's been no confirmation from any Texans official yet. Take it for what it's worth but a quick Google to the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons website says: "Distal hamstring reattachments require approximately 3 months of rehabilitation before returning to athletic activities."

This would significantly change the time estimate on Andre if accurate and make Jacoby Jones/Walter more than bye week fillers potentially. James Casey could see a expansion of his role as well. As a non physician I would believe he would not be back in 3 weeks as reported previously

Got this off of Orthopepic Surgery website- reattachment surgery

Surgical Treatment

Surgery is most often performed for tendon avulsion injuries, where the tendon has pulled completely away from the bone. Tears from the pelvis (proximal tendon avulsions) are more common than tears from the shinbone (distal tendon avulsions).

Surgery may also be needed to repair a complete tear within the muscle.

Procedure. To repair a tendon avulsion, your surgeon must pull the hamstring muscle back into place and remove any scar tissue. Then the tendon is reattached to the bone using large stitches or staples.

A complete tear within the muscle is sewn back together using stitches.

Rehabilitation. After surgery, you will need to keep weight off of your leg to protect the repair. In addition to using crutches, you may need a brace that keeps your hamstring in a relaxed position. How long you will need these aids will depend on the type of injury you have.

Your physical therapy program will begin with gentle stretches to improve flexibility and range of motion. Strengthening exercises will gradually be added to your plan.

Rehabilitation for a proximal hamstring reattachment typically takes at least 6 months, due to the severity of the injury. Distal hamstring reattachments require approximately 3 months of rehabilitation before returning to athletic activities. Your doctor will tell you when it is safe to return to sports.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

LOL, so much misinformation....With so many reports, from so many trusted reporters with "reliable sources" that are different, how can you believe any of them would be wrong.

The Texans would put him on IR if this was the case, why have they not done that?

 

[kencav]

LOL, so much misinformation....With so many reports, from so many trusted reporters with "reliable sources" that are different, how can you believe any of them would be wrong. The Texans would put him on IR if this was the case, why have they not done that?

This info was posted on 2 major FF sites for what it is worthI was sceptical myself seeing the way Andre went down that this was a minor pullIf true this injury could greatly alter the fantasy landscape of many teams...

 

[todisco1]

LOL, so much misinformation....With so many reports, from so many trusted reporters with "reliable sources" that are different, how can you believe any of them would be wrong. The Texans would put him on IR if this was the case, why have they not done that?

The Texans are gunning for a playoff spot. If there's a good shot AJ will be back in time for the playoffs, why would they IR him?

 

[Hugonel]

Anyone who saw the play knows it appeared quite serious. He went down very quickly and in very obvious intense pain. Surgery or not, I can't imagine coming back in just 3 weeks based on his reaction.

So I don't know if the surgery story is true, but it sure wouldn't surprise.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Why does it seem like HIPAA laws are routinely broken for sports reporting?

 

[ratbast]

Why does it seem like HIPAA laws are routinely broken for sports reporting?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Why does it seem like HIPAA laws are routinely broken for sports reporting?

HIPPA laws apply to the physician's themselves (and indirectly their staff) - not the people reporting the injuries. I'm guessing these stories leak from people inside the organization, some family memember/friend of the player, or some lower level staffer in the medical office. If the reporter doesn't reveal his source, it would be tough for anyone to prosecute the "violation".

 

[boonesfarm4me]

this is def "panicky speculation" by this reporter.. not a johnson owner but this dampered my interest in him for now. big blow to texans

 

[LittlePhatty]

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[Stinkin Ref]

might be time to get the ready in Houston.....

 

[TheDirtyWord]

What I would add to this conversation is that everything you read on distal hamstring surgical procedures is that the convalescence period includes immobilization and crutches...no weight bearing.

Now this might be a new procedure which is less severe, but ultimately, if this was a complete tear, it would seem to me that Johnson's casual appearance would be a giveaway as to how serious the procedure was.

See bottom of the page

 

[Touchdown There]

If true, this sounds similar to what took Finley out in 2010. Hamstrings do not require surgery unless there is a full tear or tendon disconnect.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

If true, this sounds similar to what took Finley out in 2010. Hamstrings do not require surgery unless there is a full tear or tendon disconnect.

Wasn't Finley's injury meniscus related?

 

[imagroid]

Why does it seem like HIPAA laws are routinely broken for sports reporting?

The injury report is pretty much a violation of HIPAA law, but I would imagine they sign some sort of waiver...or something like that.

 

[Mag1234]

Well lets see.. The coach is on record saying "all I know is it is something to do with the tendon", and from what I understand the Texan's have not given an "official" timetable for return. Now this "leak".. Add in the obvious *extreme* pain Johnson was in when he suffered the injury and it seems likely to me AJ owners are in for a long wait.. Not 3 weeks :(

 

[steelwind]

Surgery is never good for a football player during the season. Hoping for the best.

 

[FF Wiseguy]

Let's keep in mind that this is anonymous tip reported in the Houston Chronicle's FAN BLOG. I haven't followed Stradley much, so maybe she carries more credibility than a typical fan blog. But if this story were true, wouldn't John McClain have a source that would tell him the same? Could he be holding off reporting it as a favor to the organization?

Reading this thread has made me panic enough that I've cancelled all offers for AJ, and made offers to almost every owner in the league where I own him. The Texans statements about the injury/procedure/timetable for return have gotten more ambiguous as time has gone on, as well as the points made above, make me think they're hiding how serious the injury was.

 

[Touchdown There]

If true, this sounds similar to what took Finley out in 2010. Hamstrings do not require surgery unless there is a full tear or tendon disconnect.

Wasn't Finley's injury meniscus related?

Much like what the Texans are doing right now trying to hide the true nature of this injury, the Packers did the same thing with Finley. Mike McCarthy officially said Finley underwent "arthroscopic knee surgery" but it was to connect the hamstring tendon to the back of the knee. No one can recover during the season from that injury.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

If true, this sounds similar to what took Finley out in 2010. Hamstrings do not require surgery unless there is a full tear or tendon disconnect.

Wasn't Finley's injury meniscus related?

Much like what the Texans are doing right now trying to hide the true nature of this injury, the Packers did the same thing with Finley. Mike McCarthy officially said Finley underwent "arthroscopic knee surgery" but it was to connect the hamstring tendon to the back of the knee. No one can recover during the season from that injury.

What exactly do the Texans gain from lying about the procedure? I'm just not seeing this angle.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

The fact that this has not gained steam with other reporters in the city is very telling.

 

[firstseason1988]

AJ owner in two leagues, I am hoping he is back after the bye week, week 11, in week 12, anything before that will be gravy.

 

[qimqam]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

So would I if there was any word from the team?We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. - Why?

We just know everything went well - What is everything? A Procedure? - What was the purpose of the procedure?

The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it - What is it?

 

[Touchdown There]

If true, this sounds similar to what took Finley out in 2010. Hamstrings do not require surgery unless there is a full tear or tendon disconnect.

Wasn't Finley's injury meniscus related?

Much like what the Texans are doing right now trying to hide the true nature of this injury, the Packers did the same thing with Finley. Mike McCarthy officially said Finley underwent "arthroscopic knee surgery" but it was to connect the hamstring tendon to the back of the knee. No one can recover during the season from that injury.

What exactly do the Texans gain from lying about the procedure? I'm just not seeing this angle.

They are not lying, they are just not telling the whole truth. Coaches are only required to give the (O), (D), or (P) designation with a general description like "knee" or "ankle".

 

[firstseason1988]

If true, this sounds similar to what took Finley out in 2010. Hamstrings do not require surgery unless there is a full tear or tendon disconnect.

Wasn't Finley's injury meniscus related?

Much like what the Texans are doing right now trying to hide the true nature of this injury, the Packers did the same thing with Finley. Mike McCarthy officially said Finley underwent "arthroscopic knee surgery" but it was to connect the hamstring tendon to the back of the knee. No one can recover during the season from that injury.

What exactly do the Texans gain from lying about the procedure? I'm just not seeing this angle.

They are not lying, they are just not telling the whole truth. Coaches are only required to give the (O), (D), or (P) designation with a general description like "knee" or "ankle".

You forgot (Q).But why tell the whole world? What do they have to gain by telling the whole world. Don't get upset because you can't find the exact info for your fantasy team that you want. I don't blame the Texans for being vague, but I do feel your frustration.

 

[jackdubl]

The day to day, then week to week, then no timetable is a bit troublesome.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

If true, this sounds similar to what took Finley out in 2010. Hamstrings do not require surgery unless there is a full tear or tendon disconnect.

Wasn't Finley's injury meniscus related?

Much like what the Texans are doing right now trying to hide the true nature of this injury, the Packers did the same thing with Finley. Mike McCarthy officially said Finley underwent "arthroscopic knee surgery" but it was to connect the hamstring tendon to the back of the knee. No one can recover during the season from that injury.

What exactly do the Texans gain from lying about the procedure? I'm just not seeing this angle.

They are not lying, they are just not telling the whole truth. Coaches are only required to give the (O), (D), or (P) designation with a general description like "knee" or "ankle".

You forgot (Q).But why tell the whole world? What do they have to gain by telling the whole world. Don't get upset because you can't find the exact info for your fantasy team that you want. I don't blame the Texans for being vague, but I do feel your frustration.

Teams in no way have to tell anyone anything except league mandated designations.

 

[kencav]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

The fact that this has not gained steam with other reporters in the city is very telling.

Just cause you seem to always want to be the smartest guy in the room........LOL!That being said a "minor procedure to repair a hamstring????????....surgery would have been done to reattach something...what else would a surgery for a hamstring do....even minor tears and strains dont need surgery.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

The fact that this has not gained steam with other reporters in the city is very telling.

Just cause you seem to always want to be the smartest guy in the room........LOL!That being said a "minor procedure to repair a hamstring????????....surgery would have been done to reattach something...what else would a surgery for a hamstring do....even minor tears and strains dont need surgery.

Thats a funny comment coming from you, considering your someone who is pretending to be a doctor, no?

 

[mdlane]

Is it possible to have ONE of these AJ-injury threads without the trolls coming out and taking it over? You guys have like two other AJ threads you can use to be tools to your heart's content in - or you can go back to the Ingram thread aka the flame that draws the troll-moths. Can't there be just ONE AJ injury where you can click on it and see recent, relevant information? Please? TIA.

 

[phillybirds]

If they really believe he'll be back sooner than later, what would be the point of all the secrecy?

Are they hoping that a team will not prepare for the possibility of him playing and then there he is on the field?

Or is it that the injury and procedure was serious enough that they are being hopeful and don't want to bring anyone else down with the possibility that his season might be over?

All this is, is speculation, but I don't see why you're not fully honest unless you have something to hide...something that is not good news.

I definitely feel way worse about this situation than I previously did.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

The fact that this has not gained steam with other reporters in the city is very telling.

Just cause you seem to always want to be the smartest guy in the room........LOL!That being said a "minor procedure to repair a hamstring????????....surgery would have been done to reattach something...what else would a surgery for a hamstring do....even minor tears and strains dont need surgery.

Initial reports were that it was procedure to speed the recovery and decrease scarring/scar tissue. That sounds more like the Platelette therapy than it does anything else IMHO.and you can't go looking at sports injury sites and then extrapolate recovery times. first they are based on 'normal' people not superhuman athletes with 24 hour treatments and care/facilities to speed rehab. For e.g a normal human takes 6 weeks to resume sport activity with a broken rib at a minimum, and 2-3 weeks for the punctured lung. Romo was playing in a week. A normal human takes 2-3 months to recover from a broken collarbone, and colston was back in under 3 weeks and is 'fully healthy in under 4'.

 

[kencav]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

The fact that this has not gained steam with other reporters in the city is very telling.

Just cause you seem to always want to be the smartest guy in the room........LOL!That being said a "minor procedure to repair a hamstring????????....surgery would have been done to reattach something...what else would a surgery for a hamstring do....even minor tears and strains dont need surgery.

Thats a funny comment coming from you, considering your someone who is pretending to be a doctor, no?

Better than pretending to be a fantasy football expert on a fantasy football forum....LOL!

 

[FF Wiseguy]

Or is it that the injury and procedure was serious enough that they are being hopeful and don't want to bring anyone else down with the possibility that his season might be over?

I'm starting to think this is the case. The Colts did it with Manning, and apparently the Packers with Finley last year. I'm doing whatever I can to move him in the league I own him before any more reports come out. If he misses only three weeks, I've sold him at 50 cents on the dollar. But if he ends up missing the rest of the season (or at least the majority of fantasy regular season), I can save mine.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

revealing everything about the injury (timetable, etc) could also have an affect on things like signing other players, etc.....

use TO for an example.....TO's contract demands might change depending on how long AJ is supposed to be out......or not out

 

[Banger]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

huh? he didn't say anything. typical coaches speak and I don't see anything that contradicts the other story posted.The story said there was a procedure done, Kubiak confirmed...story said 3 months, Kubiak said no time table. No time table? He always gave a time frame with Foster why not here? Doesn't smell right to me.

 

[FF Wiseguy]

Offered Shonn Greene and Mike Wallace (though I might be able to swing Miles Austin instead) for AJ and Beanie. I've already been weary of Beanie, and I have DMC, Best, and Hillis on this time. I've always like Wallace, but the Big Ben injury may hurt his production.

Obviously, if Johnson misses the rest of the season, I will feel great about this trade. My question is, if he only misses three weeks, is this just a bad trade, or a horrific trade? And would you guys pull the trigger on this given the ambiguous situation?

 

[phillybirds]

Andre Johnson - WR - Texans

Coach Gary Kubiak confirms that Andre Johnson underwent a minor surgery on his hamstring.

According to Kubiak, the Texans will have a better idea on Johnson's recovery timetable after a week of rehab. At this point, he's expected to miss at least the next two weeks and probably a third.

Oct. 6 - 2:48 p.m. ET

Source: Nick Scurfield on Twitter

 

[GregR]

Guys lets look at what really happened here. Some unnamed person on the internet took one sentence of a Steph Stradley article and then went off on their own and came up with a 3 month recovery time. Which is at odds with the recovery time listed in the article itself. In short 95% of the info in the OP's post is from some anonymous poster on the internet, not from the media.

Here's the Cliff Notes version of the real Steph Stradley article. She says she has a source that Johnson had both a surgery and the Platelet-Rich Plasma treatment, but that the recovery time she is hearing for it is still three weeks.

She says in an update to the article, after consulting with someone familiar with this type of procedure:

A person familiar with his treatment indicates that it involves cleaning up a portion of tendon not essential to the functioning of the leg. The intention is to reduce pain, avoid scar tissue. This characterization of the procedure is consistent with other reports that suggest a short recovery time.]

Stradley's article not only doesn't change the 3 week timeframe that has been most often mentioned, it possibly provides extra details on exactly what Johnson had done, and those details support the short timeframe.

Someone on the internet is spreading fear based on an article which itself completely disagrees with what he's spreading. Don't let yourself go overboard if this is your only basis for it.

Anyone who wants to read the original article can find it at http://blog.chron.com/texanschick/2011/10/correction-andre-johnsons-did-have-a-surgical-procedure/

 

[phillybirds]

Guys lets look at what really happened here. Some unnamed person on the internet took one sentence of a Steph Stradley article and then went off on their own and came up with a 3 month recovery time. Which is at odds with the recovery time listed in the article itself. In short 95% of the info in the OP's post is from some anonymous poster on the internet, not from the media.

Here's the Cliff Notes version of the real Steph Stradley article. She says she has a source that Johnson had both a surgery and the Platelet-Rich Plasma treatment, but that the recovery time she is hearing for it is still three weeks.

She says in an update to the article, after consulting with someone familiar with this type of procedure:

A person familiar with his treatment indicates that it involves cleaning up a portion of tendon not essential to the functioning of the leg. The intention is to reduce pain, avoid scar tissue. This characterization of the procedure is consistent with other reports that suggest a short recovery time.]

Stradley's article not only doesn't change the 3 week timeframe that has been most often mentioned, it possibly provides extra details on exactly what Johnson had done, and those details support the short timeframe.

Someone on the internet is spreading fear based on an article which itself completely disagrees with what he's spreading. Don't let yourself go overboard if this is your only basis for it.

Anyone who wants to read the original article can find it at http://blog.chron.com/texanschick/2011/10/correction-andre-johnsons-did-have-a-surgical-procedure/

Thank You!!!I was about to push the panic button but thought better of it.

Your post makes me glad I didn't.

 

[nkowal]

Why does it seem like HIPAA laws are routinely broken for sports reporting?

The injury report is pretty much a violation of HIPAA law, but I would imagine they sign some sort of waiver...or something like that.

Yeah, the NBA had something about HIPAA in their CBA I believe, the NFL doesn't (though I haven't examined the new one up close I cursory scan didn't turn up anythign). There have been some HIPAA-based lawsuits in the past (Grady Jackson I believe? But don't quote me on that), but nothing substantial, and I think it often was related to a free agent. I can't gaurantee it, but I'd imagine players sign some paperwork for NFL-mandated disclosures for information which may contain PHI. I know they do this for team physicians, coaches, trainers, etc. Maybe it's not that formal for injury reports (as an l&e attorney I'd be ashamed) since information is pretty limited. Some teams will hide behind the HIPAA in certain isntances./#offtopic.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

The fact that this has not gained steam with other reporters in the city is very telling.

Just cause you seem to always want to be the smartest guy in the room........LOL!That being said a "minor procedure to repair a hamstring????????....surgery would have been done to reattach something...what else would a surgery for a hamstring do....even minor tears and strains dont need surgery.

Thats a funny comment coming from you, considering your someone who is pretending to be a doctor, no?

Better than pretending to be a fantasy football expert on a fantasy football forum....LOL!

LOL!

 

[qimqam]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

The fact that this has not gained steam with other reporters in the city is very telling.

Just cause you seem to always want to be the smartest guy in the room........LOL!That being said a "minor procedure to repair a hamstring????????....surgery would have been done to reattach something...what else would a surgery for a hamstring do....even minor tears and strains dont need surgery.

Initial reports were that it was procedure to speed the recovery and decrease scarring/scar tissue. That sounds more like the Platelette therapy than it does anything else IMHO.and you can't go looking at sports injury sites and then extrapolate recovery times. first they are based on 'normal' people not superhuman athletes with 24 hour treatments and care/facilities to speed rehab. For e.g a normal human takes 6 weeks to resume sport activity with a broken rib at a minimum, and 2-3 weeks for the punctured lung. Romo was playing in a week. A normal human takes 2-3 months to recover from a broken collarbone, and colston was back in under 3 weeks and is 'fully healthy in under 4'.

They are normal people ... The idea that athletes are super human and have some kind of special healing powers is ######ed.Yes they get the best available treatment and lots of medication to get them through the pain but they bleed when you cut them and they all will die someday believe it or not.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Meh. I'll take the teams word for what happened over an anonymous fan blog. from ESPN

The All-Pro receiver will miss Sunday's game against Oakland and an unspecified amount of time after a minor procedure to repair a right hamstring injury.

KRIV-TV in Houston reported Tuesday that Johnson is expected to miss three weeks.

Coach Gary Kubiak said the Texans will be "missing a heck of a player" against the Raiders, but he is confident there is enough offensive firepower to make due.

"When Andre's on your team, everybody tries to take him away," Kubiak said Wednesday. "Like I said, we can't replace Andre. We've got to, as a group, try to replace all the production that he adds on the field. That means everybody's got to pick it up, and we'll have a chance to prove it."

Johnson was hurt in the second quarter of Sunday's 17-10 win over Pittsburgh. Kubiak he would not put a timetable on Johnson's return after Tuesday's procedure.

"All the information we're getting moving forward is very positive," Kubiak said. "We're not putting any timeline on anything right now. We just know everything went well. The doctor feels good about it, Andre feels good about it."

The fact that this has not gained steam with other reporters in the city is very telling.

Just cause you seem to always want to be the smartest guy in the room........LOL!That being said a "minor procedure to repair a hamstring????????....surgery would have been done to reattach something...what else would a surgery for a hamstring do....even minor tears and strains dont need surgery.

Initial reports were that it was procedure to speed the recovery and decrease scarring/scar tissue. That sounds more like the Platelette therapy than it does anything else IMHO.and you can't go looking at sports injury sites and then extrapolate recovery times. first they are based on 'normal' people not superhuman athletes with 24 hour treatments and care/facilities to speed rehab. For e.g a normal human takes 6 weeks to resume sport activity with a broken rib at a minimum, and 2-3 weeks for the punctured lung. Romo was playing in a week. A normal human takes 2-3 months to recover from a broken collarbone, and colston was back in under 3 weeks and is 'fully healthy in under 4'.

They are normal people ... The idea that athletes are super human and have some kind of special healing powers is ######ed.Yes they get the best available treatment and lots of medication to get them through the pain but they bleed when you cut them and they all will die someday believe it or not.

True. But they are young, in shape, good nutrition, appropriate diet, with good doctors and physical therapists.

 

[phillybirds]

Oh well, I wound up trading him anyway.

I put it out there and got a couple of offers.

The second offer was decent enough for me to go with it.

Good luck AJ owners...

 

[SacramentoBob]

Anyone in a redraft with AJ should be trying to get one over on a league mate via a trade. Otherwise drop him for someone else. He has no value whatsoever going forward. AJ owners are gonna have to open their eyes and accept that.

 

[GoNads]

From CBS... FWIW...

Johnson feeling 'upbeat' Thursday

Andre Johnson, WR HOU

News: Texans coach Gary Kubiak said that WR Andre Johnson was "feeling upbeat" on Thursday as he returned to the field after undergoing surgery for his injured hamstring. The team still does not have a timetable on his return to action. “He’s doing good,” Kubiak said. “It’s my understanding he’s a little sore coming out of the surgery but very upbeat. (He) knows exactly what he’s dealing with, and like I said, we just keep our fingers crossed that we get there pretty quickly. Knowing him, we will.”

 

[phillybirds]

Anyone in a redraft with AJ should be trying to get one over on a league mate via a trade. Otherwise drop him for someone else. He has no value whatsoever going forward. AJ owners are gonna have to open their eyes and accept that.

That's a little extreme. This is all speculation. But after going back and forth about it, I did fall on the side of getting out while I can. I don't like to panic but I see no reason for the team not to be more forthcoming unless they were not completely sure and worried about this taking up a good deal of time. I could easily see a situation where 3 - 4 weeks turns into 6 - 8 weeks. I just can't take that risk with the current state of my team. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of others feel the same way.

 

[qimqam]

Oh well, I wound up trading him anyway. I put it out there and got a couple of offers. The second offer was decent enough for me to go with it. Good luck AJ owners...

What'd ya get?