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Spencer is the same size as Hali and very stout against the run, far from a liability. I don't think he'dbe a great fit as an OLB in a 4-3, I'll agree with you there, but he's plenty athletic enough to play OLB in a 3-4 (I hope my Steelers think that too).
You're probably right about that. I just didn't think he'd be somebody the Broncos would be interested in that early.
I don't see return guy as a need for the Jags. MJD was 3rd in the entire NFL last year in KR average with 27.7 ypr. Miller NYJ led at 28.3. Punt returns they ranked 19th(middle of the pack). Could maybe use some improvement, but not a real NEED, definitely not a 1st round need, IMHO.I would think grabbing the top CB prospect would be a better use of this pick. Revis at 17 to Jax which gives Ginn to Cincy at 18-perfect fit since the Bengals were at the bottom of the league in KR and the bottom 1/3 in PR-also could replace Henry as the 3rd receiving option.
Hali is just 260?
Google results showing last years analysis show Hali at around 265-270.
Ok, not down to the exact pound, but they have very similar builds/weight distribution, imo. I also think Spencer could add some bulk (definitely enough to get to 270-275) without losing much in the way of explosion and quickness.
Not only that but Hali is basically maxxed out as far as bulking up his frame goes.As CC feels about Big Bully, I feel about Spencer. I can't figure out why this guy isn't in the first round of everyone's mocks.
I'm not real impressed with Spencer. I think Scott Wright does a good job pointing out the concerns, and I haven't been paying too much attention to NFLDC this year.
I think he and Adams are both examples of guys who have an extra year of coaching, lifting, study, improving, and training; and probably measure out better than they really play. Adams is a little freaky so I am not so concerned with him, but he isn't impressive for a 24 year old. I think Spencer being overshadowed by Nink and Edwards is telling. Edwards is a year and a half younger with a year in the NFL under his belt. Mostly I don't see explosiveness from Spencer. He shouldn't be mentioned with the likes of Merriman and Ware. He isn't a fluid guy at all. I don't care at all about his Combine numbers. He was a one trick pony and a hustler. Hustle is good, and it padded his stats because no one else on that defense could make a play. The one trick thing isn't so good, even if Levi Brown could never figure it out. I don't see someone with coverage skills in his hips or hand eye coordination. I see an older player who seized his opportunity in a system made for DEs to pile up stats against a juicy schedule after better players left the program and didn't get drafted nearly as high as he is projected. It's a little bothersome. Dallas has the same need Pitt has at 3-4 OLB, and I really hope they pass on this guy.
And not coincidentally the reason I have a hard time seeing the Vikings go DE this year. I think their starters could be Edwards & Udeze.As far as Spencer being overshadowed by Edwards & Ninkovich in college, how many other guys have had the same thing happen that went on to outstanding NFL careers? Seems a bit nitpicky to me.
I just want to buy a Vikings jersey that has a little star power to it. Currently my choices are a center (Birk), a hurt rookie in a do-over year (Greenway), a receiver that can't catch (Williamson), and a bunch of guys that aren't even on the team anymore (Wiggins, Johnson, Smoot).I suppose I could get a Winfield, but a Peterson jersey would be nice. 28 is available too!
I would welcome a Vikings trade to #12 where they could take someone like Meachem.
I wouldn't mind this at all.
Isn't there a lot of money tied up in Rashean Mathis and Brian Williams?
Hopefully you're right about Spencer and I am right about Johnson. If I could choose when I was wrong it would be where I go negative. Big Bully is Superman. Nah, he could whup Superman.
But not a mini-Ditka.
It's deceiving because he plays much bigger than that. He was one of the few that held his own against the right side of the Bengals OL when it was healthy.
Not sure. Looking at their nickels, sure could use some help there at least. Did Williams play SS in Minny? Maybe slide him over replacing Sensabaugh?
Jason Gildon... hmmm. I would consider that realistic and NOT worth a first rounder this year. So, I will go with you there.
Well sheesh, I'm not crazy.
Yes, quite a bit. I believe adding Revis would add great depth and flexibility though. Here's a thought, although it's kind of out there- Mathis was drafted to play FS, but obviously was moved to corner. The biggest reason for this move was because the Jags didn't have much talent at CB at that time. Moving their best athlete to play corner was an easy move. If Revis were drafted, a move back to FS could be possible. Although it's hard to see how they could justify moving an All Pro from his current position, while placing a rookie corner at LCB.
I tink da really big question is what would happen if you pitted Calvin Johnson against a full size Ditka? Might be da end of life as we know it. :uncertain:
I did like the Hali comparison as a 4-3 player, though it'd be hard to project Spencer to have a Hali-like rookie year. I thought Hali was easily the best all-around rookie DE last year.
I had Hali wrong, as you know, but I liked Mark Anderson's season better.
- I like the Meachem to Indy @ 32. He'd have to shoot right up rookie draft boards were he to land there.- Beason to the Iggles - hmm, not sure. My gut says he might go to the Giants at 20 or the Pats at 24.- Dwayne Bowe to the Saints at 27? I say they wait until the 7th round to pick a buddy for Colston.
I'm still not one of those sold on Peterson to your Vikes, Andy, but nice mock nonetheless. 
I'm a little nervous about drafting Branch but I don't think we don't have a choice (unless Peterson falls to 1.6 and we can trade down). Okoye may turn out to be very good but he seems like the same type of DT we already have in Griffin. We need that big body to keep o linemen off our LBs, even if he doesn't disrupt the backfield we at least need him just to plug some holes.Not really . He's said he played with them his entire four years in Michigan.Plus, I read an interview with him where he said he was sick for two weeks leading up to the combine. I have no idea whether or not that's. But it would explain what seemed to be out of character performances from him.
What's the feeling on Kedrick Golston. Sounds like he was a pleasant surprise last year.
exactly, pleasant surprise. Not a revelation - certainly not the kind of player that would keep them from taking Branch if he's the top player on their board at 6
I completely agree. That wasn't really where I was going with the question.
That would make my banana sad (
), but it wouldn't be the end of the world. They're going to get a good player at #7 regardless. Even drafting one of the two DT's makes a bit of sense given the lack of depth, and Pat Williams' age, at the position.And it would be a smart move by Buffalo if they actually did that.
Spencer can get low and take the angle with power and explosion and speed on the edge from my point of view. He may lack the ability to drop which would make him worthless in a 3-4 ESPECIALLY for a first round pick/risk. He might go in the second to a 3-4 team but only if he can drop in coverage. Projecting down linemen is difficult. The Browns nailed Kamerion Whimbley last year and that was the main thing that they checked out over and over again. Whimbley's ability to convert from a three point stance. He's still a work in progress but their was no concerns over his ability to rush the passer. I don't have concerns over Spencer's ability as an edge pass rusher but if he doesn't project well to drop in coverage then he wouldn't go to a 3-4 team.For a 4-3 defense, he is undersized and doesn't seem like a good fit with Dumervil unless the Broncos are going to try and do a psuedo/Dungy-Indy-Colt defense which they would never do with Champ Bailey and Dre Bly who would go to waste in a Tampa-cover-two D. Their was a PFT rumor the Broncos were trying to trade up to the second pick with Detroit with the speculation they were after CJ but I was thinking they had eyes for Gaines Adams. I finally saw some tape of Gaines Adams and he is bigger than I originally thought, much stronger overall and especially against the run. Spencer to the Broncos doesn't seem to fit. Spencer could slip into the second round in which case the margin for error increases so someone will take a flyer and maybe high in the second round. I just don't see him going to Denver. Dumervil doesn't start and they need a full time down lineman not another part timer.
Blalock's versatility, the ability to play either guard spot as well as RT, is going to get him to go higher than some thing, IMO. That versatility seemed like a good solution to the problems that the Chiefs have on their o-line due to age and retirement.I have a tough time getting a read on which teams like Joe Staley. I agree he'll go higher than 31 to Chicago. I just can't figure out where. I almost gave him to the Patriots.
It would be ironic that I would predict Staley to the Ravens all the way up to my final mock only to change it to Kalil and then they DO take Staley. I don't remember seeing him go there in any mock before mine, so I'd feel pretty good about it either way, I guess.
He's not. On purpose.
An article today from the senior editor of Jaguars.com concerning the possible selection of Revis:
I'd have to agree.
Yeah, that one surprised me. It seems to me the Ravens need at Tackle is much greater than it is at C, so unless Kalil grades out much higher in an 'absolute' BPA sense, I would expect them to go with the Tackle. My only concern is whether Staley is more of a workout warrior? He seems to be on a lot of "rising" lists which would indicate great workouts, etc. He was small-school, so he should have really stood out against weaker competition. Did he really dominate when he played? That's usually what the Ravens look for more than workouts...in-game production (Kyle Boller notwithstanding).
-QG
