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rockaction said:
And I think I should be clearer so that my point is made, and it's going to be flinty and unsparing. 

When I see someone who believes in conspiracy theories and has lost four jobs in a short period of time and obviously has issues in a soccer youth league, my first instinct is not to sit around making complete sport of that person, because generally I think, "that person might have troubles of some sort." That may be cruel to Quez, but I don't think so. I'm not sure he needs defending. He might be fine. But it sounds like there are issues there.

Here's my rub: The last thing I do in that situation is think, "Wow. Wouldn't it be a great idea to kick that person while he's down. What a hoot! Let's find his troubles and dredge them up from the ether and rip on him." Because that sounds like an ungenerous and small thing to do. 

Now, there may be a million people in support of it, and a million justifications, but it has the faint whiff of those football players that sodomized a ######ed girl with a broomstick. It's just that impulse, writ large and magnified.

And I said an innocent thing in defense and you ripped my obvious issue. You sound like a well fella, bro. I'm not losing sleep over losing any kindness from you, that's for sure.  

Good day.  
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A well argued and thoughtful point, as usual.  I will say:  when a poster states their intent to troll for reactions, they shouldn't be surprised when those reactions cross the line.  Hard to feel sympathy here.

 
rockaction said:
I think I agree with most of your assessment about how guys interact, especially older guys. I appreciate the post and the thoughtfulness, as always. But I'm about GMs age. Even that said, my main problem wasn't GM, I was responding to what he said in response to Ren. What my main problem was is what Ren just said: Digging up this old thread to embarrass someone. It just reeked of punitive sentiment in response to Quez's threads. Now, I'm reading the title change this morning about Seth Rich and the avatar change and I'm wondering whether this was worth it, but I think this "razzing" is worth addressing because these threads have gotten really personal, and really toxic. You have this thread. You have people trying to extort weird sort of admissions that reek of old-time loyalty oaths. Personal attacks on the owner of the site to where he shuts down the political threads. You have tim saying you must necessarily be fundamentally "dishonest" if you support Trump. 

This is horse#### thinking, and horse#### means of going about it, and I'm going to say something and keep saying it because it makes this entire board toxic.  
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I guess I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure the eight years of toxic statements by the right based on support of Obama were so much different. Or someone bringing up my discussions in the Suicide thread in political threads in a misguided attempt to embarrass me.

I'm not sure it's so much a loyalty oath issue as the fact that people on the internet can be ####s. 

 
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Henry Ford said:
I guess I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure the eight years of toxic statements by the right based on support of Obama were so much different. Or someone bringing up my discussions in the Suicide thread in political threads in a misguided attempt to embarrass me.

I'm not sure it's so much a loyalty oath issue as the fact that people on the internet can be ####s. 
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If somebody did that about suicide, I'm appalled. I didn't see as much about Obama but maybe it's because I didn't take those posters as seriously as I take you guys. That may definitely play a role here. Regardless, I agree. People on the internet can be #####. I guess that's all I have for now. Peace. 

 
Henry Ford said:
@rockaction

I think there's more of a disconnect here than intention to be cruel.  I see it a lot on this board, as I'm sure you do, too.  Most of the posters I like on this board, and that includes GM, aren't really out to hurt someone. It's more of a locker room hazing. No, Quez isn't a guy I'd call up to have a beer with, but if he was sitting next to me at a bar and started chatting me up about the things he talks about, I'd probably react similarly to how GM does. 

I don't think (and I don't think GM thinks) that Quez is some irredeemable horrifying human being. But when someone's discussing things that legitimately make me angry, like the conspiracy theories that really mess with people's heads or lives, I can ignore it, argue strongly against it, or enter "razz this guy until we come to detente or hate each other" mode. Usually it ends up being detente. And that's because that's how a lot of guys (especially my age) decide they can interact. 

"I obviously cannot seriously debate politics with you because we live in different factual worlds. So what I can do, in time honored guy tradition, is mock-argue with each other and get out aggression with each other that way."

I'm not sure it's healthy or a good idea or anything, but I don't see GM trying to be cruel - rather finding an acceptable interaction point with each other. 

I could be way off base, but it's how I've viewed it.  Obviously anyone intending to be cruel is acting wrongly. But needling back and forth as a sort of way to interact without actually having to try to wrap one's head around someone you can't understand? Certainly comes off mean sometimes I'm sure, but I don't think GM means to. 
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:lmao:  Russia

 
rockaction said:
If somebody did that about suicide, I'm appalled. I didn't see as much about Obama but maybe it's because I didn't take those posters as seriously as I take you guys. That may definitely play a role here. Regardless, I agree. People on the internet can be #####. I guess that's all I have for now. Peace. 
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I think that's definely an issue.  A bunch of posters no one takes seriously have been gigantic ###holes for years and continue to be.  And when they were being ###holes to, say, me, or GM, or one of the other mostly reasonable people about Obama or liberalism, or "globalist conspiracy" idiocy, no one cared.  Mostly because that's how it goes when your guy is in the White House, you get #### for it.  But years of poking people have consequences. 

Now their guy is in the White House.  They're going to get #### for it, especially given what a disaster it has been so far.  Probably best to grow a thicker skin or stop discussing politics. For both sides of the aisle.

 
Ren Ho3k said:
Dredging up an old thread to insult someone about their personal lives is about as low as it gets.  It's rotten and beneath all of us.  It just is.  This board is already cynical enough as it is.  

You know, we used to share pictures of ourselves with each other and if a personal detail or two slipped, it wasn't a big deal.  I appreciate people posting about their personal lives and being open.  Those are always far and away the most interesting, engaging topics.  This sort of behavior kills that.  It kills honest expression and drives a wedge.  These political threads are just so toxic anymore and as one of the forum's most popular contributors I wish you would have the decency to attack the argument over the person.  

I know Quez is sticking to his guns and deadending here.  That's no excuse to tee off on him the way people have.  Leave it be and chances are the threads will die their rightful death.  Just my two pennies 
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I didn't bump this thread.  I never participated in this thread.  I asked why he was not invited back to coach soccer the only time I ever checked this thread.  I wonder if it were a separate thread altogether and attracted the same sort of ball busting other acts like this have attracted in the past (for example, any MOP thread over the last 15 years) if you'd be taking the sanctimonious stand you are here today and calling me and only me out for being cruel.  I'd wager not.  

What precisely was it i said that bothered you so much?  Calling them lunatics for getting in a fight over unpaid soccer decal money?  If that's it, sorry but I note not even Quez seemed bothered.  If he was, sorry for that.  

Still think his treatment of Seth Rich is disgusting and wonder where your moral high horse is on that pasture.  

 
General Malaise said:
I didn't bump this thread.  I never participated in this thread.  I asked why he was not invited back to coach soccer the only time I ever checked this thread.  I wonder if it were a separate thread altogether and attracted the same sort of ball busting other acts like this have attracted in the past (for example, any MOP thread over the last 15 years) if you'd be taking the sanctimonious stand you are here today and calling me and only me out for being cruel.  I'd wager not.  

What precisely was it i said that bothered you so much?  Calling them lunatics for getting in a fight over unpaid soccer decal money?  If that's it, sorry but I note not even Quez seemed bothered.  If he was, sorry for that.  

Still think his treatment of Seth Rich is disgusting and wonder where your moral high horse is on that pasture.  
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Why is it okay to engage in Russian Conspiracy theories that weaken our country but not Seth Rich? I'll wait for your explanation. 

Second thought, you'll just link me to some fakenews story, so don't bother.

As far as Seth Rich, plenty of evidence to suggest he was the leaker, so him getting randomly murdered definitely looks like a hit job. 

 
LARamsFan said:
Why is it okay to engage in Russian Conspiracy theories that weaken our country but not Seth Rich? I'll wait for your explanation. 

Second thought, you'll just link me to some fakenews story, so don't bother.

As far as Seth Rich, plenty of evidence to suggest he was the leaker, so him getting randomly murdered definitely looks like a hit job. 
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His parents asked people to stop.  If you can't respect the wishes of the parents of their dead child, I have no more to say to you.

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General Malaise said:
His parents asked people to stop.  If you can't respect the wishes of the parents of their dead child, I have no more to say to you.

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What his parents said 

"To those who sincerely want to get to the bottom of Seth’s murder, we don’t hold this against you. We don’t think you are monsters, and we don’t think you are terrible people. We know that so many people out there really do care, don’t know what to think and are angry at the lack of answers."

I hope they figure out who murdered Seth so he can get justice. That has nothing to do with politics. I've gone over all the evidence and it is looks like someone was paid off to murder him for being a leaker. Also, out of respect for his parents I wouldn't talk about it in front of them, but on a site like footballguys where they definitely don't look I absolutely will, and there is nothing morally wrong about that.

 
LARamsFan said:
What his parents said 

"To those who sincerely want to get to the bottom of Seth’s murder, we don’t hold this against you. We don’t think you are monsters, and we don’t think you are terrible people. We know that so many people out there really do care, don’t know what to think and are angry at the lack of answers."

I hope they figure out who murdered Seth so he can get justice. That has nothing to do with politics. I've gone over all the evidence and it is looks like someone was paid off to murder him for being a leaker. Also, out of respect for his parents I wouldn't talk about it in front of them, but on a site like footballguys where they definitely don't look I absolutely will, and there is nothing morally wrong about that.
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Wylhy didn't you post the full letter they wrote or what his brother wrote to Hannity?  Seems like you should, since you're so committed to truth and justice.  I'd do it, but I'm going to enjoy my Saturday.  I'm also not engaging with faceless, alias cowards who have to hide under cover.   Congrats on being ignore list member 3!

Unless you want to come out of hiding and tell us who you are. :lmao:

 
LARamsFan said:
Why is it okay to engage in Russian Conspiracy theories that weaken our country but not Seth Rich? I'll wait for your explanation. 

Second thought, you'll just link me to some fakenews story, so don't bother.

As far as Seth Rich, plenty of evidence to suggest he was the leaker, so him getting randomly murdered definitely looks like a hit job. 
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Because there are active investigations into the Russian connection with the administration by the FBI, Senate, House, and an appointed Special Counsel who used to head the FBI with weekly public hearings on the topic.  If you can't see the difference between that and Pizzagate Spirit Cooking 2.0, maybe you should recalibrate. 

 
Henry Ford said:
Because there are active investigations into the Russian connection with the administration by the FBI, Senate, House, and an appointed Special Counsel who used to head the FBI with weekly public hearings on the topic.  If you can't see the difference between that and Pizzagate Spirit Cooking 2.0, maybe you should recalibrate. 
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http://bigleaguepolitics.com/seth-rich-police-chief-hobnobbed-clinton-campaign-dnc-officials-photos/

The police chief who oversaw Seth Rich’s unsolved murder case has socialized and been honored alongside key Hillary Clinton advisers and even Rich’s own boss at the Democratic National Committee. Rich is widely reported to be the source of Wikileaks’ damning 2016 email release that showed the DNC colluding to hand the nomination to Clinton at the expense of Bernie Sanders. He was gunned down in D.C. 12 days before Wikileaks’ release.
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Thoughts?

 
Henry Ford said:
Because there are active investigations into the Russian connection with the administration by the FBI, Senate, House, and an appointed Special Counsel who used to head the FBI with weekly public hearings on the topic.  If you can't see the difference between that and Pizzagate Spirit Cooking 2.0, maybe you should recalibrate. 
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/26/reports-prominent-democrat-leader-bill-de-blasio-staffer-arrested-on-child-pornography-charges/amp/

Just saying :shrug:

 
Btw Quez congrats on your new gig. I can relate to the point about having a unique set of skills. It's a blessing & a curse. What did you do to finally land a new position?

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
Btw Quez congrats on your new gig. I can relate to the point about having a unique set of skills. It's a blessing & a curse. What did you do to finally land a new position?
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They rehired me at another office a month later.  I was never technically laid off, I was put on bill time only.  They had a few people leave, so it worked out great.

 
Quez said:
It had to do with my wife having a sign up sheet for people who wanted car decals made.  She fronted the money, and one parent said they didn't want it.  Mrs. Quez went all gheto on her, and since it was a church league they didn't appreciate it.
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:lmao:

I picture you saying this like it happens everyday. 

 
Henry Ford said:
So assuming that we're talking about less than $20, my way of dealing with someone owing me that amount of money is to completely forget about it with the exception that in the future that person pays before I order them anything.  
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How do you deal with $20.  :2cents:  owed?

 
Henry Ford said:
Should we see how many random Republicans at the state and local level have been arrested for child porn and solicitation in the last year or so? 

Scum everywhere. 
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Friend interned as a lawyer for the Coast Guard. Said that's all he did was child porn. 

Shook his head. It happens everywhere.  

 
LARamsFan said:
What his parents said 

"To those who sincerely want to get to the bottom of Seth’s murder, we don’t hold this against you. We don’t think you are monsters, and we don’t think you are terrible people. We know that so many people out there really do care, don’t know what to think and are angry at the lack of answers."

I hope they figure out who murdered Seth so he can get justice. That has nothing to do with politics. I've gone over all the evidence and it is looks like someone was paid off to murder him for being a leaker. Also, out of respect for his parents I wouldn't talk about it in front of them, but on a site like footballguys where they definitely don't look I absolutely will, and there is nothing morally wrong about that.
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HFS :lmao:

 
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