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That was heartbreaking to watch. They found and killed the shooter.
I should not have watched that. Heart breaking.
Plus he was being quite polite. Seemed like a good man.That was heartbreaking to watch. They found and killed the shooter.
ETA- Officer Jarrott had 3 kids, with a fourth on the way.
I don't know the answer either but part of the difficulty here is that its easy to watch a recording of an interaction and say "hey that guys wasn't threatening or violent"...because he wasn't.
I think the bigger problem is that drug violations for which to go fishing exist. If pretextual stops were limited to checking for kidnapped people locked in the trunk while sober drivers with weed and coke in the car were free to go about their merry way, I'd be much more amenable to the notion.
You cant. But what i know is you cant just assume they will be It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Like you said we cant predict the future. In my mind encounters like this specific one could be done without the police there. This accomplishes two things. First, the police aren't there which means less potential for interaction and conflict. We know they can be a trigger for some people. And second, its possible the professional can talk to this person and calm them down. It looks like they are going to truly test this in NYC so i am really interested in seeing how it goes. At the very least we can see if its feasible long term.
So he will be stuck in the modern day version of a debtor's prison for the rest of his life?
Drug offenses dont make up as big a part of the prisin population as people make it out to be.
Not sure I agree if its the right call, but understand the thought process and we'll see how it works.
This was a massive failure by the authorities. The murderer was on his way to sell 5 pounds of meth to an undercover. He had carried his AK during previous undercover buys and said that he would never be taken alive again. Homeland Security Investigations were planning to arrest him that day. But rather than arrest him during the actual transaction, HSI developed a plan where a state patrolman would pull him over before the deal. The slain officer was not the one who had been previously briefed on the plan. He may have been told to look out for a white truck, but he was not informed of how dangerous this guy was. The HSI agents, who immediately ran up after the murderer drove off, watched the patrolman get murdered. His family is now suing the different agencies involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NJfYVFxta0
I have a good idea how it will go. The same goes for California. They are releasing 20,000 life-sentence prisoners.PinkydaPimp said:
This is unbelievable. The excerpt below is from the LA Times. It's crazy. This wasn't ever debated upon. It's an administrative action that they say they have the authority to do because these are "emergency regulations," and that is determined by the budget? So there's not even need for public comment administratively? Jesus ####### Christ. Forget the political process of voting, this is under the rubric of administrative law, and the administrative law doesn't even get held up to administrative process, which includes the right of the public to comment and be heard. That's borderline totalitarianism right there. That's just a bureaucratic agency taking advantage of the pandemic to release violent prisoners who have life sentences. Oh my God.
The funny thing is that Newsome has been closing prisons...and then drafting policy to release prisoners because of overcrowded prisons. Brilliant actually.
Yes, it is shortening the time and they aren't going to be roaming the streets tomorrow. The problem I have with it is probably fifty percent process, fifty percent substantive. There was no process. It's simply an edict on high. Fiat governance. It's a terrible way to take advantage of a situation and potentially puts the public at serious risk.
feel free to post the plentiful articles your news sources provide about stories of cops as heroes. nothing stopping you from starting a thread here either.
Sad thing is she has a history of this and called to report officer not knowing he had cam going..
That chick is nuts. Officer was awesome.
I don’t read / watch CNN as much as you do but I don’t think cops should be doing the job for extra praise.
I didn't have a number in mind when you typed this, so I looked it up. 1 in 5 people incarcerated are there for drug offenses (state prisons + federal prisons + local jails).
I am pretty sure most of the people locked up in federal for it arent people anybody would take issue with being locked up. I would wager the same for a large % of the rest too, but I think we can all probably agree the feds arent locking people up that get pulled over and had a dime bag.
many people don't respect and don't appreciate and BLM and Democrats all want the police to be 100% perfect 100% of the time ....but the same people don't expect citizens to be 100% perfect 100% of the time and that's the part that's missing
Just curious - is there a distinction between drug crime like transporting and a more violent crime but still associated with drugs? Ie- would they both be coded as "drug offenses" on whatever you looked up, or would the 2nd one be solely something like violent crime/assault?
It always amazes me how in sync you are with what the Democrats what. 100% perfect cops - I am sure that's the goal!
From what I saw, they labelled it a drug offense if that offense was the most serious charge
Thanks.
isn't it ?
agreed but why doesn't media show people being all those things ?
Hint: no, that's not the goal.
Cops are in the position of power so they get more judgement would be my take.
That's why it's disappointing to see the reactions of "cops killing another minority" in cases like Adam Toledo. Cop knew he had a gun and had a split second (literally) to make a decision. All while his own fight or flight center was going nuts. We can't expect cops to be automatons; as sad as it is to lose a young man like that I can't fault the officer for firing there. And he should get backup from his management, the city management, and the citizenry.
It is completely obvious they dont actually want to solve anything.That's why it's disappointing to see the reactions of "cops killing another minority" in cases like Adam Toledo. Cop knew he had a gun and had a split second (literally) to make a decision. All while his own fight or flight center was going nuts. We can't expect cops to be automatons; as sad as it is to lose a young man like that I can't fault the officer for firing there. And he should get backup from his management, the city management, and the citizenry.
The response from the city was an insane order to have officers ask permission to chase suspects on foot.
