another sexual assault case (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

Some details sound like those reported in the Roethlisberger disaster in Milledgeville (bad police work, helpful to the athlete) and the Nevada incident with Roethlisberger (a business trying to bury the report of a star athlete assaulting an employee):

An attorney has filed a four-count complaint in Marion Circuit Court that alleges Indianapolis Colts defensive tackle Eric Foster sexually assaulted an Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis student who works at the University Place Hotel the morning of the 2010 AFC Championship Game in January.

The four counts are sexual assault, battery, false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress.

In early February, Marion County Prosecutor Carl Brizzi said he would not pursue criminal charges against Foster. But Valparaiso-based attorney April Board told the Chicago Sun-Times on Monday that the IUPUI Police Department mishandled the case and has forced her client to seek justice in civil court.

‘‘It’s so far afield from the standard operating procedure of any police department — I don’t care if it’s the tiniest town in Indiana or New York City,’’ Board said. ‘‘It’s unbelievable.’’

A hotel manager had asked Lauren Glisson, a 22-year-old student at IUPUI who is a receptionist at the hotel, to deliver a dental kit to Foster’s room on a floor reserved only for Colts personnel.

Glisson knocked on Foster’s door, according to Board. He accepted the dental kit then asked her to look at his bathroom sink, which he said wasn’t working.

According to Board, Glisson declined and suggested she would call maintenance but that Foster insisted she address the problem.

‘‘She went in,’’ Board said, ‘‘and he slammed the door, and then proceeded to forcibly engage in deviant sexual acts.’’

Glisson escaped from the room, with her clothes disheveled, returned to the lobby area and immediately reported the incident to a hotel security official, Board said.

After talking to the official, Glisson later asked for a copy of the report but was told that it was accidentally deleted from the computer system because the security official was a new employee, according to Board. But, the security official did contact a Colts security liaison.

After heading home, Glisson was urged by her sister to report the incident to Indianapolis Police, who redirected her to IUPUI Police. A report was documented at 6:30 p.m., and pictures were taken of her bruises. Glisson offered to leave her uniform as evidence but the IUPUI Police declined, Board said.

A few days later, IUPUI detective Russell Peper had Glisson take a four-hour lie detector test, Board said, although state law says sexual assault victims do not have to submit to one.

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[Michael Fox Fan]

No doubt Steelers fans are breathing a sigh of relief that it wasn't another Big Ben incident.

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

lineman. no one cares.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I don't think this is anything like the B.R. case.

We have no idea what color this guys penis is, for one.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Good to see Big Ben doesn't have a monopoly on rape.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Good to see Big Ben doesn't have a monopoly on rape.

I would have no problem with Ben being banned from the NFL for being a rapist, felt and still feel the same way about Vick and his evil soul.

 

[cobalt_27]

Good to see Big Ben doesn't have a monopoly on rape.

Well.I wish he did have a monopoly on rape because it would mean fewer women would be assaulted/violated. I see nothing good about this, whatsoever.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Good to see Big Ben doesn't have a monopoly on rape.

Well.I wish he did have a monopoly on rape because it would mean fewer women would be assaulted/violated. I see nothing good about this, whatsoever.

Think long term. It's never good when anyone is raped but if more stories like this start coming out perhaps teams/businesses/players/others will start being held to a higher standard and less of these things will happen in the future.It's a tad insulting new employees keep accidentally deleting evidence, or washing crime scenes and the police help cover everything up. Bringing this darkness into the light will hopefully help put an end to any future rapes. The more of these stories that come out, the more fan outrage there will be, and the harder time Goodell will have not dropping a big hammer on everyone.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

How is the 22 year old girl with no tools and no liquid plummer on her suppose to do anything about a clogged sink?

The guy is from Homestead Fla. That jangles my memory on something other than the hurricane, but I can't remember why. Was another famous bad boy athlete from there?

 

[RUSF18]

I was upset to hear about this, being that Foster was a great kid at Rutgers who was barely recruited and overcame a lot to earn All-Big East and 1st team All-American honors on a couple lists. He was the one leading the locker room chant that you may have seen played all over ESPN during our 2006 season when we made a run and also was the guy who would always be chopping.

I'll hold out hope that there was a (legit) reason for no criminal charges, but it sure doesn't look good.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'll hold out hope that there was a (legit) reason for no criminal charges,

Try reading the article.

 

[az_prof]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.

1) The woman wasn't drunk.

2) The woman was in contact with the man as part of her job duties--she didn't go into a VIP area at 1:30 in the morning and she didn't escort a drunken man home into his bedroom.

3) The woman immediately filed a complaint--she wasn't prompted to do so by her girl friends.

4) Presumably the woman's story in this case didn't change multiple times. Of course as more information comes out that's possible, but at this point it doesn't appear that her story is inconsistent as in the Midgeville sorority woman's accusation.\

5) She had bruises, which shows a struggle. There is no physical proof of a struggle in the Roethlisberger accusations.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The evidence might be more damning but this allegation is just as terrible as any leveled against Big Ben.

 

[az_prof]

The evidence might be more damning but this allegation is just as terrible as any leveled against Big Ben.

None of us (that I know of) questioned the seriousness of the allegation leveled at Ben. Some of us did question the evidence, and if the evidence is not solid, how can you damn someone? That's my position anyway. Even in this case, I would want to hear a full review of the evidence because evidence has a way of changing and being misrepresented in the media. The media isn't interested in a fair trial; they are interested in riling up people's passions because that is what sells news and widgets.

 

[RUSF18]

I'll hold out hope that there was a (legit) reason for no criminal charges,

Try reading the article.

Not sure what you're implying that I missed. Like the Big Ben case, suspicion should be immediately raised when something like a detailed report of the incident is "accidentally" discarded (surveillance footing being erased in that bar), or the police won't take something that could be evidence of a crime. The "legit" reason I'm hoping for, since I'm a fan of Foster, is that this is only one side of the story, or the police did conduct a full investigation and determined that nothing illegal occurred, or they know it's a money grab. That suspicion I was talking about earlier is compounded by police not always doing things by the book, even when the person receiving the benefit of the doubt is a lower profile guy like Foster.edit: If you're just taking the article at face value that the police/hotel likely covered this up, my bad...but then I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with my "legit" hope.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.1) The woman wasn't drunk.2) The woman was in contact with the man as part of her job duties--she didn't go into a VIP area at 1:30 in the morning and she didn't escort a drunken man home into his bedroom. 3) The woman immediately filed a complaint--she wasn't prompted to do so by her girl friends.4) Presumably the woman's story in this case didn't change multiple times. Of course as more information comes out that's possible, but at this point it doesn't appear that her story is inconsistent as in the Midgeville sorority woman's accusation.\5) She had bruises, which shows a struggle. There is no physical proof of a struggle in the Roethlisberger accusations.

this actually is more similar to Pig Ben's civil lawsuit in Nevada. Not the bruises part, but the rest of it....

 

[Dr. Awesome]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.1) The woman wasn't drunk.2) The woman was in contact with the man as part of her job duties--she didn't go into a VIP area at 1:30 in the morning and she didn't escort a drunken man home into his bedroom. 3) The woman immediately filed a complaint--she wasn't prompted to do so by her girl friends.4) Presumably the woman's story in this case didn't change multiple times. Of course as more information comes out that's possible, but at this point it doesn't appear that her story is inconsistent as in the Midgeville sorority woman's accusation.\5) She had bruises, which shows a struggle. There is no physical proof of a struggle in the Roethlisberger accusations.

this actually is more similar to Pig Ben's civil lawsuit in Nevada. Not the bruises part, but the rest of it....

Didn't it come out that the Big Ben chick was bragging about the event immediately after?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.1) The woman wasn't drunk.2) The woman was in contact with the man as part of her job duties--she didn't go into a VIP area at 1:30 in the morning and she didn't escort a drunken man home into his bedroom. 3) The woman immediately filed a complaint--she wasn't prompted to do so by her girl friends.4) Presumably the woman's story in this case didn't change multiple times. Of course as more information comes out that's possible, but at this point it doesn't appear that her story is inconsistent as in the Midgeville sorority woman's accusation.\5) She had bruises, which shows a struggle. There is no physical proof of a struggle in the Roethlisberger accusations.

this actually is more similar to Pig Ben's civil lawsuit in Nevada. Not the bruises part, but the rest of it....

Didn't it come out that the Big Ben chick was bragging about the event immediately after?

I've heard as much, but I'm not sure.

 

[fatness]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.1) The woman wasn't drunk.2) The woman was in contact with the man as part of her job duties--she didn't go into a VIP area at 1:30 in the morning and she didn't escort a drunken man home into his bedroom. 3) The woman immediately filed a complaint--she wasn't prompted to do so by her girl friends.4) Presumably the woman's story in this case didn't change multiple times. Of course as more information comes out that's possible, but at this point it doesn't appear that her story is inconsistent as in the Midgeville sorority woman's accusation.\5) She had bruises, which shows a struggle. There is no physical proof of a struggle in the Roethlisberger accusations.

this actually is more similar to Pig Ben's civil lawsuit in Nevada. Not the bruises part, but the rest of it....

Yes, it is. #2 is also similar to the GA "designated driver employee" case against Roethlisberger.#3 is similar to the GA case against Roethlisberger in the bar (she immediately filed a complaint although az_prof has said repeatedly that she didn't)

 

[fatness]

4) Presumably the woman's story in this case didn't change multiple times. Of course as more information comes out that's possible, but at this point it doesn't appear that her story is inconsistent as in the Midgeville sorority woman's accusation.\

Ben's PR department needs a raise.

 

[az_prof]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.1) The woman wasn't drunk.2) The woman was in contact with the man as part of her job duties--she didn't go into a VIP area at 1:30 in the morning and she didn't escort a drunken man home into his bedroom. 3) The woman immediately filed a complaint--she wasn't prompted to do so by her girl friends.4) Presumably the woman's story in this case didn't change multiple times. Of course as more information comes out that's possible, but at this point it doesn't appear that her story is inconsistent as in the Midgeville sorority woman's accusation.\5) She had bruises, which shows a struggle. There is no physical proof of a struggle in the Roethlisberger accusations.

this actually is more similar to Pig Ben's civil lawsuit in Nevada. Not the bruises part, but the rest of it....

Yes, it is. #2 is also similar to the GA "designated driver employee" case against Roethlisberger.#3 is similar to the GA case against Roethlisberger in the bar (she immediately filed a complaint although az_prof has said repeatedly that she didn't)

It wasn't clear to me that #2 was an official job--it sounds more like a groupie. Was she paid a salary? By whom? It sounds more like she is a "friend" who goes into his bedroom where he exposes himself; then she comes back a week later as a guest??? #3--Read the DA's statement: "it was all her friends" he says and "they are doing all the speaking" and intitially she denies that she was raped. Yes, she files a written report 12 hours later but it conflicts with her intitial statements. You can ignore this but an underage woman who has gotten drunk and then later changes her story is very different from a woman who as part of her job must be in a room with a man who goes and immediately notifies her boss about the situation.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.1) The woman wasn't drunk.2) The woman was in contact with the man as part of her job duties--she didn't go into a VIP area at 1:30 in the morning and she didn't escort a drunken man home into his bedroom. 3) The woman immediately filed a complaint--she wasn't prompted to do so by her girl friends.4) Presumably the woman's story in this case didn't change multiple times. Of course as more information comes out that's possible, but at this point it doesn't appear that her story is inconsistent as in the Midgeville sorority woman's accusation.\5) She had bruises, which shows a struggle. There is no physical proof of a struggle in the Roethlisberger accusations.

this actually is more similar to Pig Ben's civil lawsuit in Nevada. Not the bruises part, but the rest of it....

Yes, it is. #2 is also similar to the GA "designated driver employee" case against Roethlisberger.#3 is similar to the GA case against Roethlisberger in the bar (she immediately filed a complaint although az_prof has said repeatedly that she didn't)

It wasn't clear to me that #2 was an official job--it sounds more like a groupie. Was she paid a salary? By whom? It sounds more like she is a "friend" who goes into his bedroom where he exposes himself; then she comes back a week later as a guest??? #3--Read the DA's statement: "it was all her friends" he says and "they are doing all the speaking" and intitially she denies that she was raped. Yes, she files a written report 12 hours later but it conflicts with her intitial statements. You can ignore this but an underage woman who has gotten drunk and then later changes her story is very different from a woman who as part of her job must be in a room with a man who goes and immediately notifies her boss about the situation.

Why read the D.A.'s statement? The D.A. is a politician. He is elected. His statement serves his needs as much as the needs of justice. Perhaps his statement was self serving and inaccurate. Perhaps he relied disproportionately on the early summaries of an officer who was shamefully biased and incompetent. Why not read the source documents which are now available?

 

[Holland Freeze]

#3 is similar to the GA case against Roethlisberger in the bar (she immediately filed a complaint although az_prof has said repeatedly that she didn't)

If you can check your agenda at the door - she didn't immediately file her complaint. She left with her friends who tried to convince her - 1 even calling a deputy to recruit his support. They were at (in front of ) another bar when a police officer was seen and her friend basically made the report on her behalf which is part of what frustrated the retired Sgt. Blash.I'm thinking if you have az's account assessed correctly (not saying you do) he is closer to being accurate than you are.

 

[cobalt_27]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.

Yes, we are all aware that everything with you now operates within the prism of defending that scumbag. Thanks for popping in and reminding us.

 

[Holland Freeze]

Why read the D.A.'s statement? The D.A. is a politician. He is elected. His statement serves his needs as much as the needs of justice. Perhaps his statement was self serving and inaccurate. Perhaps he relied disproportionately on the early summaries of an officer who was shamefully biased and incompetent. Why not read the source documents which are now available?

Are you kidding me? Ignore a statement because it may not fit your position? Ignore a statement because it may be self serving? Everyone's statements could be ignored then, including your source documents.

 

[Holland Freeze]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.

Yes, we are all aware that everything with you now operates within the prism of defending that scumbag. Thanks for popping in and reminding us.

Thanks for making the pop with him to remind us you can't dissect disagreement without it being a full blown defense.

 

[Steelfan7]

Was she wearing a DTF button?

 

[Holland Freeze]

Was she wearing a DTF button?

Yaa- it means "Delivering The Floss"

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The evidence might be more damning but this allegation is just as terrible as any leveled against Big Ben.

None of us (that I know of) questioned the seriousness of the allegation leveled at Ben. Some of us did question the evidence, and if the evidence is not solid, how can you damn someone? That's my position anyway. Even in this case, I would want to hear a full review of the evidence because evidence has a way of changing and being misrepresented in the media. The media isn't interested in a fair trial; they are interested in riling up people's passions because that is what sells news and widgets.

And my position is bias aside, an allegation of rape is an allegation of rape. So...this is just as terrible.You can get into your spin and arguments for/against everyone's innocence/guilt but that's a different matter.

 

[RUSF18]

Any chance we can confine the Big Ben talk to one of the 14 threads about him where the same arguments are rehashed over and over again, and leave this one to any new developments in the Foster case?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Why read the D.A.'s statement? The D.A. is a politician. He is elected. His statement serves his needs as much as the needs of justice. Perhaps his statement was self serving and inaccurate. Perhaps he relied disproportionately on the early summaries of an officer who was shamefully biased and incompetent. Why not read the source documents which are now available?

Are you kidding me? Ignore a statement because it may not fit your position? Ignore a statement because it may be self serving? Everyone's statements could be ignored then, including your source documents.

Did I say ignore it, or did I question why read the second hand interpreted account only when the source documents are available? Sure read the D.a.'s statement too, but that is hardly the place to start, and certainly no place to stop. Az prof recommended it precisely because it fits his position. I would note his suggestion did not rise in a vacuum. He has been pushing that statement and more or less ignoring other sources of information. I find that fascinating especially since it has become apparent that the officer filtering the information to him clearly had a bias and acted less than professionally.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.1) The woman wasn't drunk.2) The woman was in contact with the man as part of her job duties--she didn't go into a VIP area at 1:30 in the morning and she didn't escort a drunken man home into his bedroom.

In other words, she wasn't "asking for it" like the women in the multiple Roethlisberger cases.

 

[cobalt_27]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.

Yes, we are all aware that everything with you now operates within the prism of defending that scumbag. Thanks for popping in and reminding us.

Thanks for making the pop with him to remind us you can't dissect disagreement without it being a full blown defense.

We are all well aware of how much you and azprof have put on a vigorous defense of Ben Roethlisberger. If you could contain yourselves and focus on this matter in this particular thread, that would be great. Lord knows there are plenty of opportunities to champion BR in other threads.This particular case is, indeed, pretty sad. As someone else said, I knew of Foster in my days at UCONN, and he seemed like a good Rutgers guy. It's really sad that it looks like he may have pissed it all away and in the process caused serious damage to this woman.

 

[Holland Freeze]

This is a more serious allegation than any of those that have appeared against Roethlisberger.

Yes, we are all aware that everything with you now operates within the prism of defending that scumbag. Thanks for popping in and reminding us.

Thanks for making the pop with him to remind us you can't dissect disagreement without it being a full blown defense.

We are all well aware of how much you and azprof have put on a vigorous defense of Ben Roethlisberger. If you could contain yourselves and focus on this matter in this particular thread, that would be great. Lord knows there are plenty of opportunities to champion BR in other threads.

When have I defended Ben? Because I do not leap at the assumption that he is guilty because complaints have been made? Because I prefer quality of the complaint versus quantity? It may be easier for you to view things as either for or against your position but please try not to put words in my mouth.I responded to your post so if focus is needed start looking closer to home.

 

[Godsbrother]

Some details sound like those reported in the Roethlisberger disaster in Milledgeville (bad police work, helpful to the athlete) and the Nevada incident with Roethlisberger (a business trying to bury the report of a star athlete assaulting an employee):

Wait a minute, weren't you the one that said I was off-base when I stated the police botched the Roethlisberger investigaton?

 

[fatness]

Some details sound like those reported in the Roethlisberger disaster in Milledgeville (bad police work, helpful to the athlete) and the Nevada incident with Roethlisberger (a business trying to bury the report of a star athlete assaulting an employee):

Wait a minute, weren't you the one that said I was off-base when I stated the police botched the Roethlisberger investigaton?

Yes I was. And if you go back and read the later part of that thread, I posted a link showing all the lousy conduct from the police and gave you props for being early to make the (correct) assertion. I guess you missed that?edit: Here you go.

BTW, the linked article is worth reading. The police did far worse work than was obvious early on.