Antonio Gates is the single most valuable player in FF (1 Viewer)

[BigRed]

I'm willing to bet 95% of all people who grabbed him in round 3 are 2-0.

Yeah and everyone who had LT last year won the title. He is nice to have but comes w/a price ie sacrificing elsewhere.

 

[H.K.]

Single most valuable FF Player.

 

[Keys Myaths]

I'm willing to bet 95% of all people who grabbed him in round 3 are 2-0.Single most valuable FF Player.

Todd Heap - almost as valuable in PPR leagues and I didn't have to sacrifice a 3rd round RB or WR to get him.

You're not serious about this, are you?Not even in the ballpark.

 

[Papa Schnay]

I'd bet that those who drafted the #1 WR and grabbed Winslow later are doing better than these Gates owners so far.In my league, there's 1 point of seperation between the two so far.

I'd bet that those who drafted Gates and grabbed Randy Moss and Lamont Jordan later are doing even better!You're cherry-picking.

FWIW, I grabbed Winslow 2 years ago in a contract and salary dynasty league for the league minimum and have him signed for the equivalent of $4 in a $100 cap (for the next 3 years). The Gates owner pays him $15 (for the next 2).Call it cherry picking if you want, but in this case I've got the better value. (and that's all we're talking about here, value)

 

[Keys Myaths]

Single most valuable FF Player.

No, he's not. This isn't in the ballpark, either.If he was the most valuable FF player to have, he'd be picked #1 every year. That's the definition of "most valuable". Period.

 

[BroadwayG]

Single most valuable FF Player.

No, he's not. This isn't in the ballpark, either.If he was the most valuable FF player to have, he'd be picked #1 every year. That's the definition of "most valuable". Period.

He should have been picked #1 every year.

 

[QuizGuy66]

FWIW the top 10 according to MYFBG using (roughly) my league's scoring system:

1 RB1 LaDainian Tomlinson 11.6 185.4 197.0 94.0

2 RB2 Steven Jackson 10.7 155.3 166.0 73.3

3 RB3 Larry Johnson 9.3 147.2 156.4 66.9

4 RB4 Joseph Addai 10.0 137.8 147.8 60.0

5 QB1 Peyton Manning 13.4 187.9 201.2 53.5

6 RB5 Frank Gore 11.4 120.6 132.0 48.6

7 RB7 Laurence Maroney 6.6 122.5 129.1 47.9

8 RB6 Travis Henry 11.3 120.0 131.3 47.3

9 TE1 Antonio Gates 7.6 110.8 118.4 46.5 <---------------

10 WR1 Steve Smith 10.9 123.5 134.5 43.8

 

[Marc Levin]

If he was the most valuable FF player to have, he'd be picked #1 every year. That's the definition of "most valuable". Period.

Pretty close, but not quite there, regarding "most valuable" as this gentleman means it.There is always a good case, using post-season numbers, why guys like Gates and formerly Gonzo, and why guys like PManning (and, for a while, the big-three WRs of Harrison, Moss and TO) are the MVFPs over the #1 RB.But, I know what you are saying.And, BTW, I truly believe Heap will be the TE2 this year, and will come close to Gates' FF numbers in PPR leagues by seasons end. I am much more comfortable having selected Heap a few rounds later than Gates in most of my leagues.

 

[Ilov80s]

If he was the most valuable FF player to have, he'd be picked #1 every year. That's the definition of "most valuable". Period.

Pretty close, but not quite there, regarding "most valuable" as this gentleman means it.There is always a good case, using post-season numbers, why guys like Gates and formerly Gonzo, and why guys like PManning (and, for a while, the big-three WRs of Harrison, Moss and TO) are the MVFPs over the #1 RB.But, I know what you are saying.And, BTW, I truly believe Heap will be the TE2 this year, and will come close to Gates' FF numbers in PPR leagues by seasons end. I am much more comfortable having selected Heap a few rounds later than Gates in most of my leagues.

Without even touching your assessment of Heap finishing 2nd over Gonzo/Winslow/Witten/etc, I will examine this. Ok, sure Heap has a very good chance of being the 2nd best TE and can be had a few rounds later. If you look at ceiling vs. basement, this is where Gates prooves more valuable then Heap. Todd's best year: 855 and 7Gate's best year: 964 and 13Todd's worst year: 693 and 3Gates worst year: 924 9Sure, Heap might finish in 2nd but it could very well be a massive difference (about 3 ff ppg). Add in that Gates is being used more as a WR then ever before and thus we could see Gates improve even more where as I believe Heap has hit his max potential.

 

[Marc Levin]

Add in that Gates is being used more as a WR then ever before and thus we could see Gates improve even more where as I believe Heap has hit his max potential.

:(Why is Gates likely to improve, but Heap has hit his max potential? With the way he was being used against the Jets, he was being used exactly like his bust out/max potential years. And he was lining up at wideout a lot. TEs IMPROVE with a little age. Not the other way around.

 

[Ilov80s]

Add in that Gates is being used more as a WR then ever before and thus we could see Gates improve even more where as I believe Heap has hit his max potential.

Why is Gates likely to improve, but Heap has hit his max potential? With the way he was being used against the Jets, he was being used exactly like his bust out/max potential years. And he was lining up at wideout a lot. TEs IMPROVE with a little age. Not the other way around.

I guess, even with Heap lining up WR, I just don't see in that Baltimore offense much room for anything more then 900 and 8.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

I somehow got him at 4.11 in a PPR, TE required league in a startup dynasty draft.

Got Steven Jackson, Larry Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson with my first three picks, so am quite happy. Especially since I picked up Jamal Lewis and Lamont Jordan as RBs later on.

 

[corpcow]

0-2 in the only league I have Gates in.

In the leagues where I have guys like Witten, Watson, Winslow, and even Eric Johnson, I'm doing much, much better. Like someone said above, it doesn't come without a price. It's going ot be very, very difficult to Gates to outperform his ADP unless you give bonus pts for receptions to TE. He's going to well outperform most other TEs, but he was also drafted a hell of a lot earlier.

 

[Sup_Yo]

I grabbed him at 4.02 and I am 0-3 right now (we had a double header this past weekend).

 

[hotboyz]

Would you make this deal to give up Gates

My Team QB's Eli,Culpepper Rb's Sjax,Benson and A Green WR's Owens, Djax, S Holmes and D Williams Te's Gates Witten

We start 1 qb,1Te, and a combination of 5 from the Wr/RB position

I'm offering Gates,Benson and Holmes for Marv Harrison,Mcallister and Tony Gonzales

scoring 1pt for every 25yds combined rush/rec 6pt for all td's under 40 yds 9pts. for all TD's over 40 Yds 5 bonus pts for 100 yds rush or 100 yds rec and 300 yds. passing

 

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Would you make this deal to give up GatesMy Team QB's Eli,Culpepper Rb's Sjax,Benson and A Green WR's Owens, Djax, S Holmes and D Williams Te's Gates WittenWe start 1 qb,1Te, and a combination of 5 from the Wr/RB positionI'm offering Gates,Benson and Holmes for Marv Harrison,Mcallister and Tony Gonzalesscoring 1pt for every 25yds combined rush/rec 6pt for all td's under 40 yds 9pts. for all TD's over 40 Yds 5 bonus pts for 100 yds rush or 100 yds rec and 300 yds. passing

We've got a special forum for this.I'd go ahead and throw in Culeppper and SJax too just to be sure you get the deal done.