Antonio Pittman (1 Viewer)

[Keith Lewis]

Antonio Pittman was just waived by the Saints, where does he land? Indy? KC? Tenn? Green Bay?

 

[sos32]

hopefully somewhere good....yes he is on my roster

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Antonio Pittman was just waived by the Saints, where does he land? Indy? KC? Tenn? Green Bay?

I will go out on a limb and say the hometown Browns or Bengals

 

[fsufan]

didn't they trade up to get him

 

[JohnnyU]

The Colts sure do like OSU players

 

[Onions]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

 

[Keith Lewis]

Antonio Pittman was just waived by the Saints, where does he land? Indy? KC? Tenn? Green Bay?

I will go out on a limb and say the hometown Browns or Bengals

Good chance

 

[JohnnyU]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

I think good news for the immeadiate future if he lands in a decent situation. Long term he would have been better off in New Orleans, because I expected them to get rid of McAllister in 2008, leaving Pittman as Bush's new running mate. I guess that's out the window now.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

I don't know how you can interpret it as good - he didn't play well enough to compel the team to keep him.

 

[JohnnyU]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

I don't know how you can interpret it as good - he didn't play well enough to compel the team to keep him.

True, but one man's trash is another man's treasure.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

I don't know how you can interpret it as good - he didn't play well enough to compel the team to keep him.

especially since he was beaten out by an undrafted rookie, Thomas

 

[Couch Potato]

With Perry going on PUP, Watson / Wilson the top RBs, and word is they are looking for another RB -- plus the Ohio connection -- Pittman signing with Cincy seems to be a likely fit

 

[Afro Samurai]

I don't know how you can interpret it as good - he didn't play well enough to compel the team to keep him.

It's not like Pittman was awful......he was actually pretty decent but Pierre Thomas just looked like a stud all preseason. Pittman's only real problem is blitz pickup, which obviously can be worked on. He should make a pretty solid #2 back for somebody, someday.But it was a crowded house with Thomas and with Stecker being your best special teamer. I guarantee that was the hardest cut Payton had to make.

 

[prymetyme25]

I dont care how he looked in the preseason the Texans need more speed in the Backfield before Green and he could be that for us. Plus doesnt OSU ran a zone blocking scheme?

 

[EBF]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

Bad.How many RBs have gone on to any kind of success after being cut by their original team? This is what I said about Pittman back in May when I named him one of my overrated rookies:

Antonio Pittman, RB, New Orleans - The best case scenario for Pittman is that he holds Reggie Bush's jock for the next five years. Even if Deuce leaves, Pittman isn't nearly as good as Deuce and probably won't be nearly as productive. You can do a lot better at pick 24 in your rookie draft.

He had a decent combine and was chosen relatively early in the draft, but there's just nothing special about him at all. I'm surprised he got cut, but he's unlikely to ever emerge as anything more than a backup. Cut your losses and move on.

 

[Afro Samurai]

I dont care how he looked in the preseason the Texans need more speed in the Backfield before Green and he could be that for us. Plus doesnt OSU ran a zone blocking scheme?

That would be an ideal fit IMO.Again, it's not his running that's an issue, it's the 'little things' - blitz pickups and so forth - that got him cut.

 

[Traders2001]

I dont care how he looked in the preseason the Texans need more speed in the Backfield before Green and he could be that for us. Plus doesnt OSU ran a zone blocking scheme?

That would be an ideal fit IMO.Again, it's not his running that's an issue, it's the 'little things' - blitz pickups and so forth - that got him cut.

He could be picked by Buffalo , you never know Lynch has been awful in camp Thomas is old and Wright has also been bad .He might be picked has 4th RB and then climb the depth chart slowly.

 

[Traders2001]

Antonio Pittman was just waived by the Saints, where does he land? Indy? KC? Tenn? Green Bay?

Green Bay took Grant , i think it s a smart very long term move

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Antonio Pittman was just waived by the Saints, where does he land? Indy? KC? Tenn? Green Bay?

Green Bay took Grant , i think it s a smart very long term move

Grant was pretty impressive in the games I saw.

 

[sos32]

So in dynasty format, would you hold onto him or cut your losses?

 

[Afro Samurai]

So in dynasty format, would you hold onto him or cut your losses?

Personally I'd cut him. Not that he doesn't have talent but his best case scenario is to be the 1B in a two-back system.

 

[Bizkiteer]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

I don't know how you can interpret it as good - he didn't play well enough to compel the team to keep him.

Another way to look at it is...others played much better than expected, which made him more expendable.

 

[Jason Wood]

An undrafted rookie free agent gets waived by the team he spent his first camp...yeah, that's a guy you want to sweat over in your dynasty league.

 

[Afro Samurai]

An undrafted rookie free agent gets waived by the team he spent his first camp...yeah, that's a guy you want to sweat over in your dynasty league.

He was a fourth-round pick.

 

[Bizkiteer]

An undrafted rookie free agent gets waived by the team he spent his first camp...yeah, that's a guy you want to sweat over in your dynasty league.

He was a fourth-round pick.

Maybe he thought he was in a DeDe Dorsey thread or somewhere else...

 

[cstu]

An undrafted rookie free agent gets waived by the team he spent his first camp...yeah, that's a guy you want to sweat over in your dynasty league.

He was also behind two good-to-great RB's, which may have had something to do with it. Perhaps he wasn't what the Saints needed out of their #3 RB.

 

[cstu]

As a Pittman owner, this is actually good news to me. He'll either end up in the better situation or not in the league. Either way I don't have him holding up a roster spot waiting for something to happen to Bush and Deuce.

 

[-OZ-]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

I don't know how you can interpret it as good - he didn't play well enough to compel the team to keep him.

Another way to look at it is...others played much better than expected, which made him more expendable.

If he played well, as a rookie RB who had success in college, some team (like Green Bay?) would have traded for him.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Maybe Pittman just isn't that good.

 

[Englishteacher]

Pittman was a luxury pick for New Orleans. Take either Reggie Bush or Deuce out of the pic and no way he gets cut. Most backs don't have two potential Pro Bowl RB's on their roster. Teams generally carry only a hanful of backs. One is generally a fullback. The third HB is going to have to contribute on special teams to be active on Sundays.

STecker is an excellent ST'er and third down back, neither of which is Pittman's meal ticket. No way Pittman gets in front of Bush or Deuce on 1st or second down.

Payton probably looked at it as Pittman was going to be inactive on SUndays and Stecker not.

I'm not very up to date on what kind of pre-season Pittman had and all but I'd think he has several places in the league now where he could sign and immediately compete for the #2 RB job. There are several sexy landing spaces for a RB who has enough talent that he could be featured in spots or in case of an injury.

How about: Pittsburgh, Indy

If he signed in either spot and Parker or Addai were to go down you have the potential to get a #2 back for nothing. Heck, maybe even a #1 back in those places.

Pittman was well regarded going into the draft and a team won't spend a fourth round pick frivolously. I also respect Payton as an offensive mastermind, he handpicked a lot of that high-octane offense last year that was dog meat the year before.

 

[EBF]

Maybe Pittman just isn't that good.

That's what I'm leaning towards.Teams usually find a way to keep players who project as potential contributors. The 49ers kept 4 QBs a few years back. The Titans kept 6 WRs when Drew Bennett was a rookie surprise for them. Things like this happen every season. If Pittman made any kind of impression on the Saints, then they would've tried to find a spot for him. You can point to the presence of Deuce and Bush as proof that the team doesn't need another RB, but let's not forget that they chose to use a pretty high pick on Pittman. Clearly they were interested in acquiring another young RB to potentially contribute at some point down the road. My take on this is that Pittman flat out didn't impress anyone in New Orleans. I can't think of a single back who was cut by his original team before his rookie season and went on to a productive NFL career. It seems unlikely that Pittman will ever carry significant FF value.

 

[cstu]

Maybe Pittman just isn't that good.

That's what I'm leaning towards.Teams usually find a way to keep players who project as potential contributors. The 49ers kept 4 QBs a few years back. The Titans kept 6 WRs when Drew Bennett was a rookie surprise for them. Things like this happen every season. If Pittman made any kind of impression on the Saints, then they would've tried to find a spot for him. You can point to the presence of Deuce and Bush as proof that the team doesn't need another RB, but let's not forget that they chose to use a pretty high pick on Pittman. Clearly they were interested in acquiring another young RB to potentially contribute at some point down the road. My take on this is that Pittman flat out didn't impress anyone in New Orleans. I can't think of a single back who was cut by his original team before his rookie season and went on to a productive NFL career. It seems unlikely that Pittman will ever carry significant FF value.

Pittman didn't do much with all the work he got in the preseason:55 carries for 173 yards (3.1 YPC)6 catches for 35 yards (5.8 YPC)Maybe he's a decent RB but he didn't show it in the preseason and Pierre Thomas did (33 for 190 (6.8 YPC)).

 

[mdog1967]

For dynasty purposes, is his release good or bad news for Pittman?

Bad.How many RBs have gone on to any kind of success after being cut by their original team? This is what I said about Pittman back in May when I named him one of my overrated rookies:

Antonio Pittman, RB, New Orleans - The best case scenario for Pittman is that he holds Reggie Bush's jock for the next five years. Even if Deuce leaves, Pittman isn't nearly as good as Deuce and probably won't be nearly as productive. You can do a lot better at pick 24 in your rookie draft.

He had a decent combine and was chosen relatively early in the draft, but there's just nothing special about him at all. I'm surprised he got cut, but he's unlikely to ever emerge as anything more than a backup. Cut your losses and move on.

Damn EBF every time I think there is little reason to come back to this forum you have to go and make sense!! If FBG aint paying you they better start.

 

[cstu]

Maybe Pittman just isn't that good.

I can't think of a single back who was cut by his original team before his rookie season and went on to a productive NFL career.

You got me there but Droughns was very close - didn't play his rookie year and cut after only having 30 carries his second year. He was a 3rd round pick and maybe that's what kept him on the team that long. He also had almost no competition on the Lions (Schlesinger and Warren).There have been very productive undrafted RB's - most notably Priest and FWP - and I'm not sure that it's worse to get drafted and cut (behind RB's like Bush and Deuce) than not drafted at all.

 

[Jason Wood]

My bust...too many waiver moves happening. You're obviously right, he was a 4th rounder making his release mildly surprising.

 

[chris1969]

I was expecting another announcement that he was picked up by another team already.

 

[snowwhiite]

My bust...too many waiver moves happening. You're obviously right, he was a 4th rounder making his release mildly surprising.

New Orleans traded up with Houston to get Antonio Pittman in the 4th........so it's a very surprising cut. I had thought maybe they had plans for AP in the future and possibly try to deal McAllister away next season. Guess I was wrong.

 

[Afro Samurai]

New Orleans traded up with Houston to get Antonio Pittman in the 4th........so it's a very surprising cut. I had thought maybe they had plans for AP in the future and possibly try to deal McAllister away next season. Guess I was wrong.

My guess is that it was insurance against Deuce leaving/getting hurt again.......word was they were also interested in Michael Bush in that round.

 

[Tyrion]

So in dynasty format, would you hold onto him or cut your losses?

I would probably give it a few days and see where he lands. Who are you going to get now in a dynasty league?

 

[EBF]

Maybe Pittman just isn't that good.

That's what I'm leaning towards.Teams usually find a way to keep players who project as potential contributors. The 49ers kept 4 QBs a few years back. The Titans kept 6 WRs when Drew Bennett was a rookie surprise for them. Things like this happen every season. If Pittman made any kind of impression on the Saints, then they would've tried to find a spot for him.

You can point to the presence of Deuce and Bush as proof that the team doesn't need another RB, but let's not forget that they chose to use a pretty high pick on Pittman. Clearly they were interested in acquiring another young RB to potentially contribute at some point down the road.

My take on this is that Pittman flat out didn't impress anyone in New Orleans. I can't think of a single back who was cut by his original team before his rookie season and went on to a productive NFL career. It seems unlikely that Pittman will ever carry significant FF value.

Pittman didn't do much with all the work he got in the preseason:55 carries for 173 yards (3.1 YPC)

6 catches for 35 yards (5.8 YPC)

Maybe he's a decent RB but he didn't show it in the preseason and Pierre Thomas did (33 for 190 (6.8 YPC)).

The coaches had a chance to watch him practice every day. Preseason games are usually just a formality. The coaches already know who's playing well and who's likely to make the squad.

There have been very productive undrafted RB's - most notably Priest and FWP - and I'm not sure that it's worse to get drafted and cut (behind RB's like Bush and Deuce) than not drafted at all.

There's a huge difference between not getting drafted and getting drafted and cut. When a player gets drafted and cut, that means the team that picked him had an extended first hand view of his skills and consequently deemed him unworthy of an NFL roster spot. That's much worse than not getting drafted. Not getting drafted just means a guy didn't stand out enough in college to get drafted. Getting cut means a guy didn't stand out in NFL practices. Neither Parker nor Holmes was cut by their original team. Once their teams saw them in action, they knew they were keepers.

It's a very bad thing for a rookie to get cut by his original team. It's usually a death sentence.

 

[cstu]

Maybe Pittman just isn't that good.

That's what I'm leaning towards.Teams usually find a way to keep players who project as potential contributors. The 49ers kept 4 QBs a few years back. The Titans kept 6 WRs when Drew Bennett was a rookie surprise for them. Things like this happen every season. If Pittman made any kind of impression on the Saints, then they would've tried to find a spot for him.

You can point to the presence of Deuce and Bush as proof that the team doesn't need another RB, but let's not forget that they chose to use a pretty high pick on Pittman. Clearly they were interested in acquiring another young RB to potentially contribute at some point down the road.

My take on this is that Pittman flat out didn't impress anyone in New Orleans. I can't think of a single back who was cut by his original team before his rookie season and went on to a productive NFL career. It seems unlikely that Pittman will ever carry significant FF value.

Pittman didn't do much with all the work he got in the preseason:55 carries for 173 yards (3.1 YPC)

6 catches for 35 yards (5.8 YPC)

Maybe he's a decent RB but he didn't show it in the preseason and Pierre Thomas did (33 for 190 (6.8 YPC)).

The coaches had a chance to watch him practice every day. Preseason games are usually just a formality. The coaches already know who's playing well and who's likely to make the squad.

There have been very productive undrafted RB's - most notably Priest and FWP - and I'm not sure that it's worse to get drafted and cut (behind RB's like Bush and Deuce) than not drafted at all.

There's a huge difference between not getting drafted and getting drafted and cut. When a player gets drafted and cut, that means the team that picked him had an extended first hand view of his skills and consequently deemed him unworthy of an NFL roster spot. That's much worse than not getting drafted. Not getting drafted just means a guy didn't stand out enough in college to get drafted. Getting cut means a guy didn't stand out in NFL practices. Neither Parker nor Holmes was cut by their original team. Once their teams saw them in action, they knew they were keepers.

It's a very bad thing for a rookie to get cut by his original team. It's usually a death sentence.

I just think it's a really odd situation because he didn't play well for whatever reason and Pierre Thomas played his @@@ off. I don't think it's a case of the Saints thinking Pittman isn't a talented player but they had to make a choice between him and Thomas and needed the guy who's ready to contribute now.

 

[Smizzy]

The NYJ are currently only carrying 2 RB's on the roster.

 

[EBF]

Maybe Pittman just isn't that good.

That's what I'm leaning towards.Teams usually find a way to keep players who project as potential contributors. The 49ers kept 4 QBs a few years back. The Titans kept 6 WRs when Drew Bennett was a rookie surprise for them. Things like this happen every season. If Pittman made any kind of impression on the Saints, then they would've tried to find a spot for him.

You can point to the presence of Deuce and Bush as proof that the team doesn't need another RB, but let's not forget that they chose to use a pretty high pick on Pittman. Clearly they were interested in acquiring another young RB to potentially contribute at some point down the road.

My take on this is that Pittman flat out didn't impress anyone in New Orleans. I can't think of a single back who was cut by his original team before his rookie season and went on to a productive NFL career. It seems unlikely that Pittman will ever carry significant FF value.

Pittman didn't do much with all the work he got in the preseason:55 carries for 173 yards (3.1 YPC)

6 catches for 35 yards (5.8 YPC)

Maybe he's a decent RB but he didn't show it in the preseason and Pierre Thomas did (33 for 190 (6.8 YPC)).

The coaches had a chance to watch him practice every day. Preseason games are usually just a formality. The coaches already know who's playing well and who's likely to make the squad.

There have been very productive undrafted RB's - most notably Priest and FWP - and I'm not sure that it's worse to get drafted and cut (behind RB's like Bush and Deuce) than not drafted at all.

There's a huge difference between not getting drafted and getting drafted and cut. When a player gets drafted and cut, that means the team that picked him had an extended first hand view of his skills and consequently deemed him unworthy of an NFL roster spot. That's much worse than not getting drafted. Not getting drafted just means a guy didn't stand out enough in college to get drafted. Getting cut means a guy didn't stand out in NFL practices. Neither Parker nor Holmes was cut by their original team. Once their teams saw them in action, they knew they were keepers.

It's a very bad thing for a rookie to get cut by his original team. It's usually a death sentence.

I just think it's a really odd situation because he didn't play well for whatever reason and Pierre Thomas played his @@@ off. I don't think it's a case of the Saints thinking Pittman isn't a talented player but they had to make a choice between him and Thomas and needed the guy who's ready to contribute now.

Pure speculation.What we know for a fact is that he got cut and that the Saints kept Pierre Thomas and Aaron Stecker instead of him. That doesn't get me very excited for his future.

It generally takes a very special RB to hold down a starting spot in the NFL. If a guy can't even convince a team to find room for him over an undrafted rookie and a special teams journeyman, I'm inclined to believe he's probably just not very special.

 

[NoFBinLA]

The NYJ are currently only carrying 2 RB's on the roster.

Innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnteresting. They are wafer thin at that position.I guess it depends on cost at that point.

 

[Yogi Berra]

First the Saints had Meacham with all of the nagging little injuries / coming to camp overweight issues and now the release of Pittman. Doesn't look like their first day offensive picks are going to be very productive this season.

The Saints are one of the few teams talented enough and deep enough to get by with having a buster draft though. At least for one season anyway.

 

[Zigg]

First the Saints had Meacham with all of the nagging little injuries / coming to camp overweight issues and now the release of Pittman. Doesn't look like their first day offensive picks are going to be very productive this season.The Saints are one of the few teams talented enough and deep enough to get by with having a buster draft though. At least for one season anyway.

The Saints returned 21 starters. It was always going to be unlikely that a rookie would be productive.

 

[cstu]

Maybe Pittman just isn't that good.

That's what I'm leaning towards.Teams usually find a way to keep players who project as potential contributors. The 49ers kept 4 QBs a few years back. The Titans kept 6 WRs when Drew Bennett was a rookie surprise for them. Things like this happen every season. If Pittman made any kind of impression on the Saints, then they would've tried to find a spot for him.

You can point to the presence of Deuce and Bush as proof that the team doesn't need another RB, but let's not forget that they chose to use a pretty high pick on Pittman. Clearly they were interested in acquiring another young RB to potentially contribute at some point down the road.

My take on this is that Pittman flat out didn't impress anyone in New Orleans. I can't think of a single back who was cut by his original team before his rookie season and went on to a productive NFL career. It seems unlikely that Pittman will ever carry significant FF value.

Pittman didn't do much with all the work he got in the preseason:55 carries for 173 yards (3.1 YPC)

6 catches for 35 yards (5.8 YPC)

Maybe he's a decent RB but he didn't show it in the preseason and Pierre Thomas did (33 for 190 (6.8 YPC)).

The coaches had a chance to watch him practice every day. Preseason games are usually just a formality. The coaches already know who's playing well and who's likely to make the squad.

There have been very productive undrafted RB's - most notably Priest and FWP - and I'm not sure that it's worse to get drafted and cut (behind RB's like Bush and Deuce) than not drafted at all.

There's a huge difference between not getting drafted and getting drafted and cut. When a player gets drafted and cut, that means the team that picked him had an extended first hand view of his skills and consequently deemed him unworthy of an NFL roster spot. That's much worse than not getting drafted. Not getting drafted just means a guy didn't stand out enough in college to get drafted. Getting cut means a guy didn't stand out in NFL practices. Neither Parker nor Holmes was cut by their original team. Once their teams saw them in action, they knew they were keepers.

It's a very bad thing for a rookie to get cut by his original team. It's usually a death sentence.

I just think it's a really odd situation because he didn't play well for whatever reason and Pierre Thomas played his @@@ off. I don't think it's a case of the Saints thinking Pittman isn't a talented player but they had to make a choice between him and Thomas and needed the guy who's ready to contribute now.

Pure speculation.What we know for a fact is that he got cut and that the Saints kept Pierre Thomas and Aaron Stecker instead of him. That doesn't get me very excited for his future.

It generally takes a very special RB to hold down a starting spot in the NFL. If a guy can't even convince a team to find room for him over an undrafted rookie and a special teams journeyman, I'm inclined to believe he's probably just not very special.

Stecker is a veteran with excellent blocking and receiving skills. He fits an important role on the team and I'm not surprised they kept him over Pittman. I don't think cutting him was ever a possibility. The bottom line is that Thomas outplayed Pittman and the Saints decided that Thomas was more prepared to play now. Undrafted or not, Thomas played like a beast and the Saints like what they saw. That doesn't automatically mean Pittman isn't talented and can't be a RB in the NFL.

 

[Yogi Berra]

First the Saints had Meacham with all of the nagging little injuries / coming to camp overweight issues and now the release of Pittman. Doesn't look like their first day offensive picks are going to be very productive this season.The Saints are one of the few teams talented enough and deep enough to get by with having a buster draft though. At least for one season anyway.

The Saints returned 21 starters. It was always going to be unlikely that a rookie would be productive.

Even with 21 returning, I would be hard pressed to believe that the Saints envisioned Antonio Pittman's New Orleans career totals to be zero carries, zero yards. Maybe I'm blinded by Meacham's potential, but I feel that if he had been motivated, lean, and healthy this preseason he'd be starting opposite Colston on Thursday.

 

[fsufan]

So in dynasty format, would you hold onto him or cut your losses?

i dropped him and picked up J. Snelling, RB ATL

 

[Afro Samurai]

Even with 21 returning, I would be hard pressed to believe that the Saints envisioned Antonio Pittman's New Orleans career totals to be zero carries, zero yards.

I doubt they also envisioned that they would find a UDFA who (forgive the hype) looks like a perfect clone of Deuce McAllister. I don't see this an indictment of Pittman at all. Payton constantly preaches about earning your spot, and Thomas just earned his a little more, that's all.