any research on QBs the year after high attempts? (1 Viewer)

[BuckeyeChaos]

I've seen plenty of articles and research on RBs who carry the ball more than certain threshhold numbers. How about QBs who throw over a certain threshhold of attempts?

 

[johnadams]

Pretty sure the attempts after a career high drop.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

Pretty sure the attempts after a career high.

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Maybe I've had too many Jamisons but ??

I'm concerned about the wear and tear of high attempts and the subsequent drop in attempts the next year. Other than Drew Brees it seems sort of a pattern

 

[johnadams]

Pretty sure the attempts after a career high.

Maybe I've had too many Jamisons but ??I'm concerned about the wear and tear of high attempts and the subsequent drop in attempts the next year. Other than Drew Brees it seems sort of a pattern

Lame attempt at humor. Move on.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

I'm sort of surprised nobody else is interested in this. Given the increased emphasis on the passing game, the higher number of attempts should not be overlooked sort of like a pitch count on pitchers.

 

[Gandalf]

I'm sort of surprised nobody else is interested in this. Given the increased emphasis on the passing game, the higher number of attempts should not be overlooked sort of like a pitch count on pitchers.

I'm interested but I do think last year could be a new trend. I feel like there are a lot of very talented QBs out there - yes more than in years past. Then there are the defensive rule changes. I don't know how much we can look at the past to tell use about what will happen in the future. I don't think QBs arms wear out in the same way either.All that said, if anyone has that data post away...

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'm sort of surprised nobody else is interested in this. Given the increased emphasis on the passing game, the higher number of attempts should not be overlooked sort of like a pitch count on pitchers.

No science here, but pitchers throw 2000+ times a year in game conditions and with the windup effort to throw hard they put a ton of strain on their arm. It's just not comparable to what a QB does IMO.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

even if nobody has hard data I would love to see some good old fashioned gut feelings discussed like the previous two posters.

MLB pitchers put way more strain on their joints than NFL QBs but their is still some strain and if they increase their workload by 10-20% I could envision some minor repetitive motion "trauma". I'm not sure what the outcome would be. It could be minor knock on velocity or accuracy. It could happen right away or start halfway through the season.

I love the discussion but hope that someone more gifted than I in stat analysis breaks this down and shares with us all.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

even if nobody has hard data I would love to see some good old fashioned gut feelings discussed like the previous two posters.MLB pitchers put way more strain on their joints than NFL QBs but their is still some strain and if they increase their workload by 10-20% I could envision some minor repetitive motion "trauma". I'm not sure what the outcome would be. It could be minor knock on velocity or accuracy. It could happen right away or start halfway through the season.I love the discussion but hope that someone more gifted than I in stat analysis breaks this down and shares with us all.

QBs throw so many times in practice that it seems like it would render this moot. If a guy has 3-4 days less of practice over the course of the year then that probably makes up the difference between the starting QB with the most attempts and the starting QB with the least.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I think the additional pounding from defensive players might take a toll, but that would include all dropbacks including sacks & hurries.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm sort of surprised nobody else is interested in this. Given the increased emphasis on the passing game, the higher number of attempts should not be overlooked sort of like a pitch count on pitchers.

No science here, but pitchers throw 2000+ times a year in game conditions and with the windup effort to throw hard they put a ton of strain on their arm. It's just not comparable to what a QB does IMO.

This is where I'm at. It's not that no one is interested, I just don't think anyone is worried about it. The RB carries study is based on the toll the constant hits, that come with running the ball, take on a RB, not the actual act itself of running with the ball.

 

[CalBear]

even if nobody has hard data I would love to see some good old fashioned gut feelings discussed like the previous two posters.MLB pitchers put way more strain on their joints than NFL QBs but their is still some strain and if they increase their workload by 10-20% I could envision some minor repetitive motion "trauma". I'm not sure what the outcome would be. It could be minor knock on velocity or accuracy. It could happen right away or start halfway through the season.I love the discussion but hope that someone more gifted than I in stat analysis breaks this down and shares with us all.

I guarantee that there is a threshold you can find in the statistics; it's called "multiple endpoints." If you found such a threshold, it would be just as invalid as the 370-carry threshold is for RBs, and for the same reasons.