Any UFL players coming to the NFL? (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

I believe that they are free from their contracts Nov 13.

NFL teams can't trade and it's not like the NFL waiver wire is loaded with talent to pick from right now so it's not the NFL offseason where it seems there are a million possible players they can sign. Their choices are limited and here comes a slew of available players.

I understand the UFL guys are a second rate league with second rate talent.

I have always enjoyed the stories of Arena League guys and NFLEurope/World League players earning a chance to play in the NFL by showing off their skills.

It's not just Warner's great story but Delhomme and Kitna and...there's been plenty of NFL players that came from there.

I watched NFLEurope fairly often and Ruvell Martin was one of the best WRs I ever saw play in that league. That turned into an NFL career as a backup with next to no time on the field.

I haven't watched the UFL. Their coaches (which is key to a player's development) are an impressive list.

Shaun Hill threads here? Yeah he's from NFL Europe too and yep his NFL career isn't jaw dropping. But injuries and a younger guy (Stanton) not developing as planned, he fills a need.

I tried to put things in perspective above.

So are there any UFL players worth noting?

 

[Bojang0301]

I believe that they are free from their contracts Nov 13.NFL teams can't trade and it's not like the NFL waiver wire is loaded with talent to pick from right now so it's not the NFL offseason where it seems there are a million possible players they can sign. Their choices are limited and here comes a slew of available players.I understand the UFL guys are a second rate league with second rate talent.I have always enjoyed the stories of Arena League guys and NFLEurope/World League players earning a chance to play in the NFL by showing off their skills.It's not just Warner's great story but Delhomme and Kitna and...there's been plenty of NFL players that came from there.I watched NFLEurope fairly often and Ruvell Martin was one of the best WRs I ever saw play in that league. That turned into an NFL career as a backup with next to no time on the field.I haven't watched the UFL. Their coaches (which is key to a player's development) are an impressive list. Shaun Hill threads here? Yeah he's from NFL Europe too and yep his NFL career isn't jaw dropping. But injuries and a younger guy (Stanton) not developing as planned, he fills a need. I tried to put things in perspective above.So are there any UFL players worth noting?

Players I think may get a shot at some backup time would be Dede Dorsey, Lorenzo Booker, Daunte Culpepper. There really hasn't been too many standouts. I suppose some team may see what Clarett has got just because of his name but he hasn't really done anything.

 

[Bri]

Players I think may get a shot at some backup time would be Dede Dorsey, Lorenzo Booker, Daunte Culpepper. There really hasn't been too many standouts. I suppose some team may see what Clarett has got just because of his name but he hasn't really done anything.

I always liked DeDe in preseason.You watch the UFL some?

How about Dominic Rhodes?

Colts injuries to RBs and the guy's in shape.

I have been seeing the Culpepper highlights. I know everyone and their brother on this board seems to have issues with the guy.

I went to google and here's one

http://www.versus.com/college-football/vid...mountain-lions/

So it's knowing I'm about to get slammed for saying as such that I say-he looks like the old Daunte.

In that highlight, he makes a nice move to avoid the pass rush and coughs it up. Yep old Daunte.

He throws some excellent passes and still has that very strong arm.

They speak of a key QB scramble in the highlight but don't show it. There's others you can find. I gotta say that i agree with Dennis Green here where he talks about tearing three ligaments, needing time to recover and discusses how he's getting his wheels back.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-1103-d...,0,670307.story

That article shows 8 TDs and 8 INTs for Daunte.

So we got a fumble and the INTs are high which....same ol Daunte.

For me though, that knee working and his arm. I think maybe some need to see it to believe it. I have been scoffing at the TV when they showed highlights of him as player of the week, "yeah wait til next week when he fumbles four times."

So I'm not Daunte's biggest fan. His NFL career was not as good as many seem to think.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CulpDa00.htm

I guess my Q is, do you think he looks like the old Daunte? And clearly I'm not glowing with praise above but can the old Daunte play in the NFL?

Just in highlights, I'm torn with the WOW throws followed by INTs or fumbles. If he was young I'd surely say a guy that can make those throws has a future; a coach will get those bad habit mistakes out of him. He's not young though.

 

[Bojang0301]

I don't think any player in the UFL really can come over and do much at this point. Yes a lot of the players HAVE played in the NFL. No one is tearing up that league though outside of Lorenzo Booker and he has already failed multiple auditions in the NFL. I'm sure some of the players will be given a chance. Culpepper is a guy I can see getting one because he still looks to have ok talent and teams always can use a decent backup.

Edit to add: The Rhodes addition seems logical enough but isn't he averaging like 3.8 ypc and like 33/34 years old?

 

[Bri]

Edit to add: The Rhodes addition seems logical enough but isn't he averaging like 3.8 ypc and like 33/34 years old?

Well they signed Andre Brown who was cut from the Giants and Broncos so they might see it as Rhodes>Brown.They have James' lil bro and Mike Hart. They have plenty of young players at RB, including of course Addai and Donald, maybe a vet is a wise move for the playoffs. It would still leave them with four youngsters. Jeff Garcia seems like a decent pickup too. I'm assuming all these guys have eaten their crow playing in the UFL and are willing to play for peanuts. Also, however much these guys bouncing around the NFL WW make each year it's a rather trivial amount to these businesses (NFL teams). The way an NFL team can name a player 3rd QB and keep them inactive affords them a little latitude with QBs.For depth of alot of NFL positions, I tend to like a guy with a chip on their shoulder or something to prove. I assume the UFL is full of guys like this and I wonder how many would perform better because of that chip and the gametime experience, versus someone in the NFL that has been just sitting on the sidelines thus far this season.I remember Parcells calling some of the depth linemen signings on the bad teams he took over "street fighters." They don't really have any value until your team's starting T gets hurt and you see the backup come in and start thinking the QB is going to get slaughtered. Then a guy that'll battle suddenly seems like a decent guy to have around for the time being.

 

[Bojang0301]

Edit to add: The Rhodes addition seems logical enough but isn't he averaging like 3.8 ypc and like 33/34 years old?

Well they signed Andre Brown who was cut from the Giants and Broncos so they might see it as Rhodes>Brown.They have James' lil bro and Mike Hart. They have plenty of young players at RB, including of course Addai and Donald, maybe a vet is a wise move for the playoffs. It would still leave them with four youngsters. Jeff Garcia seems like a decent pickup too. I'm assuming all these guys have eaten their crow playing in the UFL and are willing to play for peanuts. Also, however much these guys bouncing around the NFL WW make each year it's a rather trivial amount to these businesses (NFL teams). The way an NFL team can name a player 3rd QB and keep them inactive affords them a little latitude with QBs.For depth of alot of NFL positions, I tend to like a guy with a chip on their shoulder or something to prove. I assume the UFL is full of guys like this and I wonder how many would perform better because of that chip and the gametime experience, versus someone in the NFL that has been just sitting on the sidelines thus far this season.I remember Parcells calling some of the depth linemen signings on the bad teams he took over "street fighters." They don't really have any value until your team's starting T gets hurt and you see the backup come in and start thinking the QB is going to get slaughtered. Then a guy that'll battle suddenly seems like a decent guy to have around for the time being.

Garcia has been below average even in UFL terms. Colts let Brown go and claimed Joique Bell off of waivers.

 

[Bri]

Wonder if Fins are discussing any UFL QBs

 

[Bri]

looks like Daunte made it to championship game

http://www.ufl-football.com/news/gameday-f...41-nighthawks-3

guess he won't be available for one more week

 

[Bojang0301]

You would think Arizona would at least have a look.

 

[NJJets]

looks like Daunte made it to championship game

http://www.ufl-football.com/news/gameday-f...41-nighthawks-3

guess he won't be available for one more week

He's not there yet He needs A lil help from Omaha this week to get there

 

[Novice2]

Sheesh didn't even know they were playing. Not much money in advertising this season i guess.

 

[Bri]

Not sure if anyone heard or cares but UFL and NFL seem to be going to blows. UFL is demanding 150k from the NFL (or it's teams) for any player that joins an NFL team even after the UFL season is over.

NFL warned it's teams that the UFL players are still under contract. Didn't tell them not to sign the players but falls short of that.

I think this is a terrible move by the UFL who tried to work with the NFL just last spring and was interested in being a sort of minor league. They should admit to themselves that no one solely aspires to play in the UFL now and any favorable press would only help their business.

I don't understand the prob if they fulfilled their obligation to the UFL other than the risk of injury BUT most UFL contracts (if not all) only run til spring of 2011 anyway so...don't like this move at all by the UFL

 

[NJJets]

Not sure if anyone heard or cares but UFL and NFL seem to be going to blows. UFL is demanding 150k from the NFL (or it's teams) for any player that joins an NFL team even after the UFL season is over.NFL warned it's teams that the UFL players are still under contract. Didn't tell them not to sign the players but falls short of that.I think this is a terrible move by the UFL who tried to work with the NFL just last spring and was interested in being a sort of minor league. They should admit to themselves that no one solely aspires to play in the UFL now and any favorable press would only help their business. I don't understand the prob if they fulfilled their obligation to the UFL other than the risk of injury BUT most UFL contracts (if not all) only run til spring of 2011 anyway so...don't like this move at all by the UFL

I agree it is a bad idea by them.On one hand I understand them wanting to protect their "assets" for next season.On the other hand there's no shortage of players who would only need some coaching to make the NFL/injured or rehabbing players/etc.They need all the "Good" publicity they can get if they want to attract any kind of talent at all.

 

[Hoosier16]

After looking at the UFL stats, it looks like it is becoming a senior league. Their leaders are all ex-NFL players instead of young, developing players. I think I'd rather watch a player trying to make it to the NFL rather than one who has been there, but is too old and will never get there again.

 

[Bri]

Not sure if anyone heard or cares but UFL and NFL seem to be going to blows. UFL is demanding 150k from the NFL (or it's teams) for any player that joins an NFL team even after the UFL season is over.NFL warned it's teams that the UFL players are still under contract. Didn't tell them not to sign the players but falls short of that.I think this is a terrible move by the UFL who tried to work with the NFL just last spring and was interested in being a sort of minor league. They should admit to themselves that no one solely aspires to play in the UFL now and any favorable press would only help their business. I don't understand the prob if they fulfilled their obligation to the UFL other than the risk of injury BUT most UFL contracts (if not all) only run til spring of 2011 anyway so...don't like this move at all by the UFL

I agree it is a bad idea by them.On one hand I understand them wanting to protect their "assets" for next season.On the other hand there's no shortage of players who would only need some coaching to make the NFL/injured or rehabbing players/etc.They need all the "Good" publicity they can get if they want to attract any kind of talent at all.

yeah and that their contracts end in feb 2011 just irks me as chest thumping and not much more

 

[Bri]

After looking at the UFL stats, it looks like it is becoming a senior league. Their leaders are all ex-NFL players instead of young, developing players. I think I'd rather watch a player trying to make it to the NFL rather than one who has been there, but is too old and will never get there again.

There's a mix. QBs (like any football league) get the bulk of the press, but it seems to have plenty of young ones.There's this guy that intrigues me named Cory Ross. Played for (or sat on the sideline) the Ravens for two years.He's 5-6 and 200 which is tiny but weight isn't bad for that tiny.He led UFL in rushing one year and receiving the next. I figure that should get him an NFL camp invite at least, but at 5-6 they'd have to see that he could do it in an NFL game so I'm not sure if any summer NFL productivity would translate to an NFL opportunity.Faulk MJD and plenty others have been small. He's thicker than Sproles, 20 pounds about.two inches shorter but similar weight to MJDI don't mean to project big things for a guy I haven't seen. I'm just saying by looking at stats and reading about him, maybe he could be a 3rd down back on the NFL level. I'd be curious to hear what folks that saw him think.

 

[Mike Herman]

All the current kickers - Nick Novak, Steve Hauschka, Jeff Wolfert, Fabrizio Scaccia and Sam Swank - could very well get a look from NFL teams between now and next summer.

 

[Bri]

Soooo Michael Clayton is the first to sign from the UFL. The Gmen didn't have to pay the 150k fee because he only played in four games. 4 or less, no fee.

More fascinating-my buddy told me he heard Clayton STUNK in tryout and I'm searching through twitter and also finding others saying he had a bunch of drops in the tryout.

 

[NJJets]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...fer-fe/related/

Something I Stumbled Across While Looking For News / Stats From The Jets/Bungles Thanksgiving Night Snoozefest.

 

[Bri]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...fer-fe/related/

Something I Stumbled Across While Looking For News / Stats From The Jets/Bungles Thanksgiving Night Snoozefest.

Anyone else-I wish an NFL team would just sign them and check the legality of them hindering a person's ability to make a living after he has already played all that is possible for his UFL team.Booker sitting out the last week as a boycott-that guy practically asked for a problem here.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...fer-fe/related/

Something I Stumbled Across While Looking For News / Stats From The Jets/Bungles Thanksgiving Night Snoozefest.

Anyone else-I wish an NFL team would just sign them and check the legality of them hindering a person's ability to make a living after he has already played all that is possible for his UFL team.Booker sitting out the last week as a boycott-that guy practically asked for a problem here.

The legality questions should be directed at the NFL. Teams are colluding not to pay any transfer fee in the hopes of freezing out the UFL. There's nothing wrong with the UFL charging a transfer fee to take away their best players. That 150K is a big deal to that league. They need it to stay afloat, especially if their best players leave for the NFL.I'm not sure why everyone expects the UFL to simply roll over and let their best players walk with no compensation while they're stuck trying to put a good product on the field. One week a team could be in the championship game because of some great players, and before the game they could be gutted by the NFL and left to play a title game with scrubs. That's not right. I admit that wouldn't be commonplace but it is possible, and the league has a right to protect its interests.

They could be more lax after the season, of course. But it's clear that they need that transfer fee money. Maybe if it was 75K the NFL would be more likely to pay it, but I suspect that, like the article says, teams don't want to be the first to pay that fee and set a costly precedent. So I think the NFL is hoping to punish the UFL and hurt their viability.

Every league in existence shouldn't be forced to bow to the whims of the NFL and give up its assets for free if they come calling. They're trying to put a viable product on the field. NFL teams shell out crazy bonuses to players who never see the field-- see Bryant, Antonio. Paying something to a small league isn't going to break them.

 

[Bri]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...fer-fe/related/

Something I Stumbled Across While Looking For News / Stats From The Jets/Bungles Thanksgiving Night Snoozefest.

Anyone else-I wish an NFL team would just sign them and check the legality of them hindering a person's ability to make a living after he has already played all that is possible for his UFL team.Booker sitting out the last week as a boycott-that guy practically asked for a problem here.

The legality questions should be directed at the NFL. Teams are colluding not to pay any transfer fee in the hopes of freezing out the UFL. There's nothing wrong with the UFL charging a transfer fee to take away their best players. That 150K is a big deal to that league. They need it to stay afloat, especially if their best players leave for the NFL.I'm not sure why everyone expects the UFL to simply roll over and let their best players walk with no compensation while they're stuck trying to put a good product on the field. One week a team could be in the championship game because of some great players, and before the game they could be gutted by the NFL and left to play a title game with scrubs. That's not right. I admit that wouldn't be commonplace but it is possible, and the league has a right to protect its interests.

They could be more lax after the season, of course. But it's clear that they need that transfer fee money. Maybe if it was 75K the NFL would be more likely to pay it, but I suspect that, like the article says, teams don't want to be the first to pay that fee and set a costly precedent. So I think the NFL is hoping to punish the UFL and hurt their viability.

Every league in existence shouldn't be forced to bow to the whims of the NFL and give up its assets for free if they come calling. They're trying to put a viable product on the field. NFL teams shell out crazy bonuses to players who never see the field-- see Bryant, Antonio. Paying something to a small league isn't going to break them.

They are former NFL players.The fee is excessive.

It is after the UFL season. They are not under contract for the 2011 season. They are simply under contract til February 2011.

The UFL would benefit greatly if a "fill-in" did well in the NFL and returned to the UFL in 2011. In that regard they are simply looking for extra work or a side-job.

They have their own issues trying to decide if they are a minor league of sorts like NFLE or one that will someday be competitive with the NFL like the USFL. They are sending two signals here and that's a major mistake. They need clear direction.

They need to send players to the NFL because it's a level of publicity that they simply could not buy in any form of advertising. Losing one player to the NFL (not a former NFL player, different scenario) could attract CFL talent, talent from Japan, Australia or Germany.

Fans love the story of Kurt Warner. Kitna and Delhomme make nice stories too. Who was that guy that was a HS stud RB and was such a big deal player trying to make the Colts years ago? We fans love the underdog story and that's the only way the UFL succeeds without enormous sums of money. The NFL has an established product, market and a billion dollar warchest. Geesh I bet if the NFL decided to create two more teams, the UFL would have to fold due to all the players they lost. They gotta go with the underdog story.

NFLE eventually (all but) became NFL Germany. There are very very likely to be kids coming from there someday soon that can play football pretty well. Samoa is a nice NFL story, how about some guys from there? Australia has a different sort of football but....

they need a crystal clear direction or they will fold just like the XFL and several others before. Give the fans something to embrace.

Sorry for the ramble. It IS after the season and these players are not working at all but simply under contract til february.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...fer-fe/related/

Something I Stumbled Across While Looking For News / Stats From The Jets/Bungles Thanksgiving Night Snoozefest.

Anyone else-I wish an NFL team would just sign them and check the legality of them hindering a person's ability to make a living after he has already played all that is possible for his UFL team.Booker sitting out the last week as a boycott-that guy practically asked for a problem here.

The legality questions should be directed at the NFL. Teams are colluding not to pay any transfer fee in the hopes of freezing out the UFL. There's nothing wrong with the UFL charging a transfer fee to take away their best players. That 150K is a big deal to that league. They need it to stay afloat, especially if their best players leave for the NFL.I'm not sure why everyone expects the UFL to simply roll over and let their best players walk with no compensation while they're stuck trying to put a good product on the field. One week a team could be in the championship game because of some great players, and before the game they could be gutted by the NFL and left to play a title game with scrubs. That's not right. I admit that wouldn't be commonplace but it is possible, and the league has a right to protect its interests.

They could be more lax after the season, of course. But it's clear that they need that transfer fee money. Maybe if it was 75K the NFL would be more likely to pay it, but I suspect that, like the article says, teams don't want to be the first to pay that fee and set a costly precedent. So I think the NFL is hoping to punish the UFL and hurt their viability.

Every league in existence shouldn't be forced to bow to the whims of the NFL and give up its assets for free if they come calling. They're trying to put a viable product on the field. NFL teams shell out crazy bonuses to players who never see the field-- see Bryant, Antonio. Paying something to a small league isn't going to break them.

They are former NFL players.The fee is excessive.

It is after the UFL season. They are not under contract for the 2011 season. They are simply under contract til February 2011.

The UFL would benefit greatly if a "fill-in" did well in the NFL and returned to the UFL in 2011. In that regard they are simply looking for extra work or a side-job.

They have their own issues trying to decide if they are a minor league of sorts like NFLE or one that will someday be competitive with the NFL like the USFL. They are sending two signals here and that's a major mistake. They need clear direction.

They need to send players to the NFL because it's a level of publicity that they simply could not buy in any form of advertising. Losing one player to the NFL (not a former NFL player, different scenario) could attract CFL talent, talent from Japan, Australia or Germany.

Fans love the story of Kurt Warner. Kitna and Delhomme make nice stories too. Who was that guy that was a HS stud RB and was such a big deal player trying to make the Colts years ago? We fans love the underdog story and that's the only way the UFL succeeds without enormous sums of money. The NFL has an established product, market and a billion dollar warchest. Geesh I bet if the NFL decided to create two more teams, the UFL would have to fold due to all the players they lost. They gotta go with the underdog story.

NFLE eventually (all but) became NFL Germany. There are very very likely to be kids coming from there someday soon that can play football pretty well. Samoa is a nice NFL story, how about some guys from there? Australia has a different sort of football but....

they need a crystal clear direction or they will fold just like the XFL and several others before. Give the fans something to embrace.

Sorry for the ramble. It IS after the season and these players are not working at all but simply under contract til february.

In your scenario, the UFL get nothing but the well-wishes of the NFL. Not enough. How can a league operate when it's best players can be gutted at any time? If you're talking about after the season, obviously they put in the contract expirations in February because they need the money. NFL teams can afford it. It's not excessive at all. They pay millions to backups who never play. They pay coaches millions after they're fired. They pay $150,000 in signing bonuses and then cut the player before they play in a game. I'm not buying that the fee is excessive. $30 for a hat is excessive. $60 for a cheap polo shirt is excessive. People pay it because they want it. The NFL can afford a transfer fee for a player.

 

[Bri]

If it's not an excessive fee then why aren't any (didn't apply to Clayton) of their players being picked up to replace injured players and provide depth? How else do you explain NFL teams not going after what has to seem like a suddenly rejuvenated waiver wire?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

If it's not an excessive fee then why aren't any (didn't apply to Clayton) of their players being picked up to replace injured players and provide depth? How else do you explain NFL teams not going after what has to seem like a suddenly rejuvenated waiver wire?

Because they are colluding to force the league to waive the fee. They can afford it but prefer to throw their weight around and muscle them out. That article even said that if one paid the fee it's likely many would also follow suit. Why does the NFL charge you to listen to radio broadcasts of games on its site? Why did it try to sue companies using the "Who Dat" phrase when the Saints went to the Super Bowl? Because they can. It's certainly not because the teams can't afford the fee. They're in the NFL and they should get whatever they want for free.

 

[Bri]

If it's not an excessive fee then why aren't any (didn't apply to Clayton) of their players being picked up to replace injured players and provide depth? How else do you explain NFL teams not going after what has to seem like a suddenly rejuvenated waiver wire?

Because they are colluding to force the league to waive the fee. They can afford it but prefer to throw their weight around and muscle them out. That article even said that if one paid the fee it's likely many would also follow suit.

I think you missed my point and made my point. "They can afford it" is not a decent reason. Most teams (although some would claim otherwise) could probably afford to give them a million per player. That doesn't mean they want to or will. Dude you can afford a lamborghini if you agree to pay it off for the rest of your life, you going to get one? See there's gotta be some logic here in determining what their transfer fee will be-something to create a market value. (Again, the UFL benefits from the exposure. I'd bet Clayton being seen this Sunday makes him the most visible UFL player ever, that's how bad their publicity is.) This sounds like a number that stuck to a wall. For every seven players they get a mil? For what? Seriously-they are just not elite talents. Also what boss in the entire world wouldn't rather hire seven new workers and take the mil?I have to think that if they sat down at a table with the NFL and said if player X plays this many years in the NFL, then we get Y per year, that that would work.Their teams cost 20 mil. (That's what Theisman paid IIRC)Their payrolls are 5 mil and less.If the NFL felt this 150k were so affordable, then it sure seems like it wouldn't be hard to get enough guys signed to cover a UFL team's payroll for a year. Does that explain how excessive it is for you?The whole thing is so dopey. The NFL's medium to publicize things is what they want access to and that is their goal-money will come from that. Do some pinky swear thing where every player agrees to start the first sentence in their interviews with "when I was in the UFL..." That would do them a world of good. Get the NFL to agree that UFL players wear some UFL insignia on their uniform. The UFL league is losing money at a terrible pace. Charging NFL teams an excessive fee isn't the solution but instead the means to watch this league die an early death. Please let me give you another example-Neil ya got friend or three in Cali right? from this board or what not? How many of them knew Daunte played there? Tell me their team nickname without googling please?UFL must must must play nice with the NFL for now and get a deal worked out. They don't have to in the future, but they have to use the NFL to get the word out.

 

[loose circuits]

can UFL players have it written into their contracts that the fee would be waived if a NFL team is interested?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

If it's not an excessive fee then why aren't any (didn't apply to Clayton) of their players being picked up to replace injured players and provide depth? How else do you explain NFL teams not going after what has to seem like a suddenly rejuvenated waiver wire?

Because they are colluding to force the league to waive the fee. They can afford it but prefer to throw their weight around and muscle them out. That article even said that if one paid the fee it's likely many would also follow suit.

I think you missed my point and made my point. "They can afford it" is not a decent reason. Most teams (although some would claim otherwise) could probably afford to give them a million per player. That doesn't mean they want to or will. Dude you can afford a lamborghini if you agree to pay it off for the rest of your life, you going to get one? See there's gotta be some logic here in determining what their transfer fee will be-something to create a market value. (Again, the UFL benefits from the exposure. I'd bet Clayton being seen this Sunday makes him the most visible UFL player ever, that's how bad their publicity is.) This sounds like a number that stuck to a wall. For every seven players they get a mil? For what? Seriously-they are just not elite talents. Also what boss in the entire world wouldn't rather hire seven new workers and take the mil?I have to think that if they sat down at a table with the NFL and said if player X plays this many years in the NFL, then we get Y per year, that that would work.Their teams cost 20 mil. (That's what Theisman paid IIRC)Their payrolls are 5 mil and less.If the NFL felt this 150k were so affordable, then it sure seems like it wouldn't be hard to get enough guys signed to cover a UFL team's payroll for a year. Does that explain how excessive it is for you?The whole thing is so dopey. The NFL's medium to publicize things is what they want access to and that is their goal-money will come from that. Do some pinky swear thing where every player agrees to start the first sentence in their interviews with "when I was in the UFL..." That would do them a world of good. Get the NFL to agree that UFL players wear some UFL insignia on their uniform. The UFL league is losing money at a terrible pace. Charging NFL teams an excessive fee isn't the solution but instead the means to watch this league die an early death. Please let me give you another example-Neil ya got friend or three in Cali right? from this board or what not? How many of them knew Daunte played there? Tell me their team nickname without googling please?UFL must must must play nice with the NFL for now and get a deal worked out. They don't have to in the future, but they have to use the NFL to get the word out.

This is what I mean. A league cannot live on pinky swears and playing nice. They need money, and if you take their best talents you should pay for it. It's not excessive just because teams don't want to pay it. They don't want to pay anything, and they're making a point. The NFL doesn't want to pay anything, and if they pay $150K...eventually they'll have to pay $250K and so on. But I think if you cut the fee in half they still wouldn't want to pay it. They want the UFL to give them what they want when they want it for free. For a league that charges for every little thing...they sure don't like to pay for anything themselves.

 

[Bri]

BUMP

I believe UFL fee changed to 25K and some are getting scooped up like Booker and Rhodes

 

[Bri]

DE Eric Moore got a ton of work in the Pats win over Buffalo

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england..._medium=twitter