Any word on Warrick Dunn (1 Viewer)

[Silver & Black]

I did a quick search and didn't see anything recent about Dunn's status with the Falcons.

Does anyone know anything about his situation?

Thanks.

 

[Bri]

Not so different from every other veteran. He wants decent sized $. Teams were waiting to see the cap # to determine if he was affordable or not. Falcons have said they really want him back, falcon fans wonder if it'll happen

 

[Silver & Black]

Any thoughts on why a new deal hasn't been worked out here yet?

I own Dunn real cheap in my keeper league and am hoping for some sign from Atlanta that he will be the man again this year, and possibly even trading Duckett.

Thanks.

 

[Bri]

not getting much info searchin'

ETA Warrick is a generous soul every offseason and usually quite busy. He may be off building a house with habitat for humanity or somesuch and that's why no discussions are taking place. It could be anything, don't "read into it" with him

 

[Bri]

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Atlanta Falcons and Warrick Dunn have started contract negotiations.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1171

 

[Bri]

Dunn signed a 6 year deal in 2002

 

[glock]

I did a quick search and didn't see anything recent about Dunn's status with the Falcons.

Does anyone know anything about his situation?

Thanks.

Silver & Black...The name...I can't quite place the face...

...but the name.

 

[diesel7982]

Dunn signed a 6 year deal in 2002

And got cut this March...

 

[fruity pebbles]

Dunn signed a 6 year deal in 2002

And got cut this March...

Since when was Dunn cut. It was rumored but I never saw it happen.

 

[BoltBacker]

I'm pretty sure he'll be playing for them this year but it certainly would be interesting to imagine him playing in the IND offense.

 

[Marino13]

He wasn't cut....

 

[BoltBacker]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

 

[fruity pebbles]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

Not necessarily a cut, just a restructure.

 

[BoltBacker]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

Not necessarily a cut, just a restructure.

At his age a restructure is a paycut.

 

[Big Score]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

Not necessarily a cut, just a restructure.

At his age a restructure is a paycut.

Dunn's good be he ain't $8,000,000.00 good and that's what his base is this year, hence the need to restructure.He wants to stay and the Falcons want him to stay. They'll get it worked out.

 

[diesel7982]

Dunn signed a 6 year deal in 2002

And got cut this March...

Since when was Dunn cut. It was rumored but I never saw it happen.

Did it not? Was it one of the ones that got retracted?

 

[Big Score]

Dunn signed a 6 year deal in 2002

And got cut this March...

Since when was Dunn cut. It was rumored but I never saw it happen.

Did it not? Was it one of the ones that got retracted?

Dunn was never cut.

 

[Silver & Black]

I did a quick search and didn't see anything recent about Dunn's status with the Falcons.

Does anyone know anything about his situation?

Thanks.

Silver & Black...The name...I can't quite place the face...

...but the name.

I....am....ALIVE!!!!

 

[David Yudkin]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

Not necessarily a cut, just a restructure.

At his age a restructure is a paycut.

Dunn's good be he ain't $8,000,000.00 good and that's what his base is this year, hence the need to restructure.He wants to stay and the Falcons want him to stay. They'll get it worked out.

Dunn's salary for 2006 is slated to be $2.7 million.

 

[Silver & Black]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

Not necessarily a cut, just a restructure.

At his age a restructure is a paycut.

Dunn's good be he ain't $8,000,000.00 good and that's what his base is this year, hence the need to restructure.He wants to stay and the Falcons want him to stay. They'll get it worked out.

Dunn's salary for 2006 is slated to be $2.7 million.

So does that mean that the 8 million we keep hearing about is what the cap hit is to Atlanta if he doesn't re-do his deal, which I assume includes the amortization of his signing bonuses since the start of the contract?

 

[David Yudkin]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

Not necessarily a cut, just a restructure.

At his age a restructure is a paycut.

Dunn's good be he ain't $8,000,000.00 good and that's what his base is this year, hence the need to restructure.He wants to stay and the Falcons want him to stay. They'll get it worked out.

Dunn's salary for 2006 is slated to be $2.7 million.

So does that mean that the 8 million we keep hearing about is what the cap hit is to Atlanta if he doesn't re-do his deal, which I assume includes the amortization of his signing bonuses since the start of the contract?

I would think that it is a combination of pro-rated signing bonus, salary, and incentives and perhaps a roster bonus that may be involved (not so sure about the bonus part). Another possibility is if the team had him restructure previously and moved some of the money due around for cap accounting purposes, but the NFLPA has him down for only $2.7 million due in salary this year. A thired option is if there is some sort of accelerator clause that would effectively reduce the length of the contract.I have looked for a breakdown of the salary cap hit, but all I can find are statements about his number being between $8 and $8.5 million but no explanation.

 

[Silver & Black]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

Not necessarily a cut, just a restructure.

At his age a restructure is a paycut.

Dunn's good be he ain't $8,000,000.00 good and that's what his base is this year, hence the need to restructure.He wants to stay and the Falcons want him to stay. They'll get it worked out.

Dunn's salary for 2006 is slated to be $2.7 million.

So does that mean that the 8 million we keep hearing about is what the cap hit is to Atlanta if he doesn't re-do his deal, which I assume includes the amortization of his signing bonuses since the start of the contract?

I would think that it is a combination of pro-rated signing bonus, salary, and incentives and perhaps a roster bonus that may be involved (not so sure about the bonus part). Another possibility is if the team had him restructure previously and moved some of the money due around for cap accounting purposes, but the NFLPA has him down for only $2.7 million due in salary this year. A thired option is if there is some sort of accelerator clause that would effectively reduce the length of the contract.I have looked for a breakdown of the salary cap hit, but all I can find are statements about his number being between $8 and $8.5 million but no explanation.

Thanks David.I guess all this boils down to whether Dunn is going to be "the man" again this year, getting the lion's share of the carries. I remain concerned about Duckett vulturing carries and I guess I am watching what happens with his contract as an indicator of what the rb situation is going to be for 2006.

 

[fruity pebbles]

He wasn't cut....

The last I read they still expect him to take a paycut to stay with the team, which is too bad. If there's one guy in ATL earning his paycheck it's Dunn.

Not necessarily a cut, just a restructure.

At his age a restructure is a paycut.

Dunn's good be he ain't $8,000,000.00 good and that's what his base is this year, hence the need to restructure.He wants to stay and the Falcons want him to stay. They'll get it worked out.

Dunn's salary for 2006 is slated to be $2.7 million.

So does that mean that the 8 million we keep hearing about is what the cap hit is to Atlanta if he doesn't re-do his deal, which I assume includes the amortization of his signing bonuses since the start of the contract?

I would think that it is a combination of pro-rated signing bonus, salary, and incentives and perhaps a roster bonus that may be involved (not so sure about the bonus part). Another possibility is if the team had him restructure previously and moved some of the money due around for cap accounting purposes, but the NFLPA has him down for only $2.7 million due in salary this year. A thired option is if there is some sort of accelerator clause that would effectively reduce the length of the contract.I have looked for a breakdown of the salary cap hit, but all I can find are statements about his number being between $8 and $8.5 million but no explanation.

Thanks David.I guess all this boils down to whether Dunn is going to be "the man" again this year, getting the lion's share of the carries. I remain concerned about Duckett vulturing carries and I guess I am watching what happens with his contract as an indicator of what the rb situation is going to be for 2006.

That doesn't concern me at all. Duckett's carries have been pretty consistant over the years. I think even Dunn knows he best at 200-250 carries for the year. He's still just flat out a bigger playmaker than Duckett.

 

[Silver & Black]

Any updates on the RB situation in Atlanta?

I thought there was an issue about his large salary this year and talk about him redoing his deal and what not. I checked around and can't really find anything about the situation down in Atlanta.

Is Dunn a viable #2 fantasy back this year?

Thanks.

 

[BigRed]

Is Dunn a viable #2 fantasy back this year?

That's a tough call IMO. He surprised a lot of people with his consistency last year - not exactly a Dunn trademark. Thing is Duckett will continue to steal the TDs....but even so, you could definitely do a lot worse for a RB2. I just think his price will be too steep in our auction draft this year.

 

[Silver & Black]

Is Dunn a viable #2 fantasy back this year?

That's a tough call IMO. He surprised a lot of people with his consistency last year - not exactly a Dunn trademark. Thing is Duckett will continue to steal the TDs....but even so, you could definitely do a lot worse for a RB2. I just think his price will be too steep in our auction draft this year.

Thanks Big Red. I am lucky enough to have him dirt cheap ($6) in my auction league. I can only protect three guys heading into the season and he is one of the guys I am considering for the last spot.

 

[David Yudkin]

Any updates on the RB situation in Atlanta?

I thought there was an issue about his large salary this year and talk about him redoing his deal and what not. I checked around and can't really find anything about the situation down in Atlanta.

Is Dunn a viable #2 fantasy back this year?

Thanks.

Dunn has been a viable RB2 every year he's been in the league, and I see no reason that he won't be this year. That's 9 years in a row for those that always think he is a wasted pick.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Any updates on the RB situation in Atlanta?

I thought there was an issue about his large salary this year and talk about him redoing his deal and what not. I checked around and can't really find anything about the situation down in Atlanta.

Is Dunn a viable #2 fantasy back this year?

Thanks.

Dunn has been a viable RB2 every year he's been in the league, and I see no reason that he won't be this year. That's 9 years in a row for those that always think he is a wasted pick.

That about sums it up. Dunn was FWP before there was a FWP, and even that isn't saying enough. He's solid.

 

[Silver & Black]

Thanks guys, I agree. I only became concerned when I heard talk about his big sarlary cap hit for Atlanta this year and talk about re-doing his deal. Since I haven't heard anything about that, I just wanted to see if I was missing anything about his contract situation.

 

[BigRed]

Dunn has been a viable RB2 every year he's been in the league, and I see no reason that he won't be this year.  That's 9 years in a row for those that always think he is a wasted pick.

Oh cmon. He's had a lot of inconsistency in his career and it should not be discounted, eg following up a 150 yd game with a 30 yd game (again over his career...he has been more consistent recently). Add to that his age, lack of TD production, and declining receiving stats 4 yrs running......Not saying I wouldn't want him as my RB2 by any means, only that IMO he will be overpriced and has a good chance to disappoint, esp. if you expect another year like last year. But if you have him as a modestly priced keeper, I'd probably take my chances (and/or consider as trade bait).

 

[David Yudkin]

Dunn has been a viable RB2 every year he's been in the league, and I see no reason that he won't be this year.  That's 9 years in a row for those that always think he is a wasted pick.

Oh cmon. He's had a lot of inconsistency in his career and it should not be discounted, eg following up a 150 yd game with a 30 yd game (again over his career...he has been more consistent recently). Add to that his age, lack of TD production, and declining receiving stats 4 yrs running......Not saying I wouldn't want him as my RB2 by any means, only that IMO he will be overpriced and has a good chance to disappoint, esp. if you expect another year like last year. But if you have him as a modestly priced keeper, I'd probably take my chances (and/or consider as trade bait).

A RB2, by definition, will rank in the RB13-24 range in a 12 team league. Dunn has ranked 13, 19, 21, 15, 23, 19, 27, 15, and 12. The year he ranked 27th he missed the last 5 games but was ranked 12th at the time he got hurt--even after a stretch where he barely got the ball.

So in 4 seasons in ATL a case could be made he ranked 19, 12, 15, 12. That's pretty consistent even if his week to week numbers and workload aren't. And in most leagues in recent memory he's been drafted in the RB20s, making him a good value year in and year out. He won't ever be Top 5, but he will get you decent production at a discount.

 

[BigRed]

That's pretty consistent even if his week to week numbers and workload aren't.

Well if that's all

As I said, you could do worse for sure. But dream on about that "at a discount" stuff.

 

[David Yudkin]

That's pretty consistent even if his week to week numbers and workload aren't. 

Well if that's all

As I said, you could do worse for sure. But dream on about that "at a discount" stuff.

In my staff and shark redraft leagues last year, Dunn went as the #22, 22, 23 RB. Looks like he was a pretty goold back at not a premium price.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Is Dunn a viable #2 fantasy back this year?

That's a tough call IMO. He surprised a lot of people with his consistency last year - not exactly a Dunn trademark. Thing is Duckett will continue to steal the TDs....but even so, you could definitely do a lot worse for a RB2. I just think his price will be too steep in our auction draft this year.

He is too small to be an every down back..... Seriously though, when given a chance, I don't remember him ever being inconsistant.