blackjack23
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The guys been a stud when healthy but can you start him vs TEN?
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Anybody starting Schaub this week? (1 Viewer)
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Wally Cleaver
Footballguy
Call it a hunch, but I see Schaub having a good week...
Looking at his numbers from earlier in the year it is easy to dismiss him, but in that game there were alot of dropped balls and the texans were not in form the way they are now... Plus the Tennesse defense has shown some cracks as of late, I think they can be had.... I wouldnt expect a huge game but I would start him over most guys... The Texans offense is that good and is clicking right now....
Looking at his numbers from earlier in the year it is easy to dismiss him, but in that game there were alot of dropped balls and the texans were not in form the way they are now... Plus the Tennesse defense has shown some cracks as of late, I think they can be had.... I wouldnt expect a huge game but I would start him over most guys... The Texans offense is that good and is clicking right now....
blackjack23
Footballguy
Same decision I have. I was confident in starting Hill but call it a gut instinct I think Schaub can have a good game.
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
I think Schaub does a lot better than people are projecting him this week. People talk up the Titans D, but fail to realize just how good this Houston offense is playing right now.
You know the Titans will be down all game, and Schaub will throw 40+ times, so the yardage numbers should be there. And this defense can be had by a good enough pass offense. Rodgers put up some very good numbers against Tenn, and that was in Tenn. So it can be done. Schaub's 400 yard game last week was a real eye opener. Unless I had a stud with a really good matchup, I would give very strong consideration to Schaub.
You know the Titans will be down all game, and Schaub will throw 40+ times, so the yardage numbers should be there. And this defense can be had by a good enough pass offense. Rodgers put up some very good numbers against Tenn, and that was in Tenn. So it can be done. Schaub's 400 yard game last week was a real eye opener. Unless I had a stud with a really good matchup, I would give very strong consideration to Schaub.
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loose circuits
Footballguy
with the weather possibly taking a turn for the worse in KC, Schaub is under consideration to start over Thiggy
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Wish I could after Orton's performance, but I'll be watching Schaub closely for consideration in our SuperBowl next week if I make it. Didn't really like this matchup, or even vs. Oaktown, as they can play tough D in their own house, but as hot as their offense is I probably have to go that way. Makes up for when I had to play Sage freakin' Rosefels - I hate that guy.
Rovers
Footballguy
I would call that VERY optomistic! The last two games the Titans have given up ONE TD. That was a 2 yard pass. They have given up only 309 yards passing in the last two games combined! Even when the Jets beat them, Farve threw for 224 with two short TD passes. I would hardly say the Titans D is falling off at all. Granted, the availability of Haynesworth and V-B will hurt, but the D backfield is intact. If I were a Schaub owner, I think 225 with a TD would be a slightly optomistic prediction. Any more than that would come as a welcome surprise. The 3 game totals:533 passing yards, or an average of 178 yards per game. That is right in line with their season average of 181. 3 TD passes, all short, and two of those came in the Jets game, 3 weeks ago. The Titans have given up only 8 passing TD's all year. That's 0.61 passing TD's per game. If Schaub went 250 for one TD and a pick, that would be right up there with the best games any QB has had against the Titans this year... 224 for 2TD and 1 INT that Favre put up, Mannings 223 for 2TD and 2 INT's in week 8 (Manning also had a one yard rush TD). Only A Rogers has thrown for over 300 against the Titans this year, with 1 TD and 2 INT"S. Your slightly optomistic prediction for Schaub would in fact be the best QB numbers the Titans would have allowed on the season (if one discounts the Manning rushing TD).But, The Texans are playing well, the Titans have clinched and they may well rest a lot of players, so it's possible, but I still think somewhat unlikely.
big country
Footballguy
:whoosh: Excellent write up.. Ill be going with Shaun Hill over him
This matchup scares me as a Kevin Walter owner. Walter has been gold this season for me but I picked up Davone Bess for this week. I think if anything AJ has a fair day but I don't see Walter doing much. I do see Bess having a pretty good day against the weak Niners though. Of course you must keep in mind I am wrong much more than I am right.
You definitely bring up some good points/data. Schaub heading into GB, GB was only allowing 214 yds, 1.3 TDs all year, (home 230 yds, 0.9 TDs)Held Peyton at home to 229-0/2 Ints, Romo to 260/1/1, Ryan to 194/2/1, but Schaub torced that defense for 414/2/1The numbers say this isnt a good match-up for Schaub vs. the Titans, you are definiitely correct on that one. And for those guys starting Hill over Schaub, that may be correct move looking at the numbers. I'm starting Schaub, more of a gut call more than anything. They're at home playing well, and I dont think Slaton will run all over the Titans defense the way he did the first time around in week 2. I say this is more of a Schaub game. If the Titans can protect Schaub (Vanden Bosch out helps, and TEN only sacked Ken Dorsey ONCE at home last week), I think he can have a really good game.Shaun Hill is the better start on paper vs. Mia secondary, but i'm going with a gut call starting Schaub.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I think Schaub is a high risk/high reward play. As some others have said, while it's not a great matchup, he is the type of QB and the Houston offense is the type of offense that could put up some huge fantasy stats on any given day against any given opponent, including the Titans. At the same time, he could come out and throw for under 200 yds and 3 INTs. If I had to put money, I would bet on him having an above average day (~220-250 yds with 2 TDs and 1 INT)
I'm starting him over Eli as I'm a slight underdog in that contest and need the upside he brings.
If I had advice to give on him, it would be: If you're an underdog, start him. If you're favored, find a safer option.
I'm starting him over Eli as I'm a slight underdog in that contest and need the upside he brings.
If I had advice to give on him, it would be: If you're an underdog, start him. If you're favored, find a safer option.
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
last 5 games vs. Tenn, Houston Qb's avg 231 yards per game..thats about what I'd expect out of this matchup, and its about where the above poster predicted Shuab's statline to be at..
perhaps the BEST reason to start Shaub is the fact that its expected to be near 70 degrees for the game, or best case, with the roof closed..so if you're worried about a QB in a foul-weather game elsewhere in the cold north, Shaub might
be a good play.
otherwise, you might want to look at other options..
anyone thinking about AJ, his avg over past 4 vs. Tenn is 6.75 catches per game, 72 yards per game, with .5 TD per game...not really earth-shattering numbers...
perhaps the BEST reason to start Shaub is the fact that its expected to be near 70 degrees for the game, or best case, with the roof closed..so if you're worried about a QB in a foul-weather game elsewhere in the cold north, Shaub might
be a good play.
otherwise, you might want to look at other options..
anyone thinking about AJ, his avg over past 4 vs. Tenn is 6.75 catches per game, 72 yards per game, with .5 TD per game...not really earth-shattering numbers...
i want to bench him, but i'm afraid if i do he'll go off. i am definitely starting shaun hill and can use schaub as a flex. but while i can guarantee myself 6-8 points with jared mayo, i may get -3 with schaub, like i did last time they played the titans. he'd have to hit 250 yards in my socring system to start getting yardage points. i think that' s unlikely. ugh. just can't decide.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Wow, that's pretty amazing. What I'd really like to know is how many does your roster hold and what kind of scoring do FG's > 50 yds get?
FGs over 30 are 2 points. FGs under 30 are 1 point.Our rosters are 15 deep, 11 teams. (not head to head). We start 13 each week.
Rovers
Footballguy
I too often go with the "gut call" player. I did that with M Harrison last week when the numbers said I should have kept him on the bench. Dorsey really doesn't provide a good data point though. He was 22-44 with 1 INT, but that was an average of only 3.2 yards per passing play. I didn't see the game, but it sounds like he threw short stuff almost exclusively. 22 completions for 150 yards. If he attempted to go deep at all, he never connected, and if he was sticking with 3 step drops, the pass rush likely never got off the ground. Schaub will need more time for AJ and Walther to get into their patterns. Could be a big day for Daniels and Slayton on short routes and outlet passes. In the playoffs, I usually go with the higher risk higher upside player. Schaub fits that play this week. Good uck, but not too much... the only team I still have in the playoffs is going against.... Schaub! I'm rolling with Cutler.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I have Warner and obviously I'm starting him but I have this gut feeling that Houston may outright win this game. Just a feeling...Might at least make Tenn.'s week 16 game with P-Burg meaningful.
notdarkyet
Footballguy
Ditto.Avery said:
Rovers
Footballguy
That must have hurt.
Big Score
Footballguy
Nice call Taxman. You were pretty darn close with your prognostication.
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Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT M. Schaub 23/39 284 1 0blackjack23
Footballguy
Schaub (and this offense) is a stud. Vs Oak should be good next week.
