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Anyone brave enough to start R Moss vs Ravens (1 Viewer)
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Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
I'm fully planning on ripping off Moss owners after this week, does that count?
Klecko HOF
Footballguy
Brave, or desperate?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
That playoff schedule is fantastic. I would highly suggest targeting him after he puts up another mediocre game against BALT.13 - Texans14 - @Bengals15 - Rams16 - CheifsBlackjacks
Footballguy
I'm starting either Andre Johnson or Issac Bruce instead of him.
NYCGangGreen
Footballguy
A little of both.....i have him going, I'm not sold on the Balt. D as of yet, a good week 1 performance, but TB O-line lost 2 starters and Chris Simms doesnt impress me much.I just need Randy to put up WR 3 numbers this week, and I'll run with it. Randy will be Randy and get his points, i don't see a need to panic after week 1.
fsufan
Footballguy
doesn't he need a QB to get him the ball
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I'm starting either Andre Johnson or Issac Bruce instead of him.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I'm quite confident that someone will be under center for the Raiders on those days.doesn't he need a QB to get him the ball
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
How many times do you need to post this?doesn't he need a QB to get him the ballI am so glad I traded Moss for Holt
fsufan
Footballguy
Brooks or WalterI'm quite confident that someone will be under center for the Raiders on those days.doesn't he need a QB to get him the ball
Redwes25
Footballguy
My plan as well. I think L. Jordan could also be a good buy at that point as well.
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Moss had 4 for 47 in a game that was a nightmare for WR production. He'll be fine.
Wildcat
Footballguy
This is useful information. Thanks.I am so glad I traded Moss for Holt
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
It wasn't EITHER of their fault what happened this weekend.Brooks or WalterI'm quite confident that someone will be under center for the Raiders on those days.doesn't he need a QB to get him the ball
Ralph Furley
Footballguy
Yes.
I think the question should be rephrased " Anyone dumb enough to bench R Moss against any team?"
You all need to chill out. Unless he is injured, he is as automatic as one gets.
I think the question should be rephrased " Anyone dumb enough to bench R Moss against any team?"
You all need to chill out. Unless he is injured, he is as automatic as one gets.
And since VERY few if any have 3 top 10 WR's already on their team Moss is a must start every single week.
G-Money
Footballguy
I'm tempted to sit Moss this week, but that would hinge on Houshmanzedeh's health. If Housh is healthy, I can start:
Wayne vs HOU
Housh vs CLE
Mason vs OAK
Those are all nice matchups, and make it realistic to sit Randy this weekend. That being said, I don't forsee benching Moss many more times this season.
Wayne vs HOU
Housh vs CLE
Mason vs OAK
Those are all nice matchups, and make it realistic to sit Randy this weekend. That being said, I don't forsee benching Moss many more times this season.
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nordstrom24
Footballguy
Let me add to this post with a resounding HELL NO!
Laverneus Coles, Mushin Muhammad, Troy Williamson, Santana Moss are all better options for me than Randy boy...
Laverneus Coles, Mushin Muhammad, Troy Williamson, Santana Moss are all better options for me than Randy boy...
I drafted 9th in a 12 team redraft. I thought about him in the 5th, grat value. I let him go, and took D. Mason instead. He was still there on the way back up, and I took Bledsoe. I would have taken him at 7, but he was gone. I wasn't brave enough at 6, but at 7, I would have. I see a TO type of meltdown with the raiders sitting at 0-8. I like the fantasy situation from the catchup perspective, but that team is just in an ugly place. Is Art Shell smart enough to throw the ball down 28-0? I wasn't sure, so I passed. And, I'll pass on the Raiders this year, unless things change, drastically.
jonessed
Footballguy
The guy is a freak talent on a team with a QB that can air it out. I was hoping he would be more consistent this season, but he's the type of player that can have a great game against almost any D. Unless you are totally stacked at WR or snuck in someone like Driver late in the draft then I can't see how you would sit him.
Brother take off the blinders. This is absolutely in no way like the LJ/SA situations after week 1. No way.I understand starting him...but I can't imagine there is a single Moss owner who is not cringing about it.Ahhh, this is why so many people hate Moss. Now I see. You guys will all bench him after one week and he will end up going off this week.... Thanks, knowing this I'll keep him in the lineup.
jurb26
Footballguy
Moss is your teams WR1 if you have him. So are LJ and SA, only RB1s. All of these guys were rated in the top 5 of there repective positons. You don't bench them after one week. I don't care how bad they played or things looked. What about Chambers, should he be benched after week one? How about Chad Johnson (boy is it funny how this guy always get a free releace around here)? What about D. Jackson? Hummm, then theres Roy Williams? Reggie Wayne? The list cold go on. These are all likley WR1s on Fantasy teams though. Do you advocate benching all of these guys too?Brother take off the blinders. This is absolutely in no way like the LJ/SA situations after week 1. No way.I understand starting him...but I can't imagine there is a single Moss owner who is not cringing about it.Ahhh, this is why so many people hate Moss. Now I see. You guys will all bench him after one week and he will end up going off this week.... Thanks, knowing this I'll keep him in the lineup.
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Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I don't think that benching Randy this week is the dumbest move you can make, if you have viable options at WR.Oak O Line, on Monday night, was the worst unit I've ever seen on a NFL field and I think Balt D is lightyears ahead of SD.McCallister is an All Pro corner and Ed Reed will be providing double coverage all day if needed.I wouldn't be shocked if OAK leaves BALT still having zero points on the year.Moss is your teams WR1 if you have him. So are LJ and SA, only RB1s. All of these guys were rated in the top 5 of there repective positons. You don't bench them after one week. I don't care how bad they played or things looked. What about Chambers, should he be benched after week one? How about Chad Johnson? What about D. Jackson? Hummm, then theres Roy Williams? Reggie Wayne? Do you advocate benching all of these guys too?Brother take off the blinders. This is absolutely in no way like the LJ/SA situations after week 1. No way.I understand starting him...but I can't imagine there is a single Moss owner who is not cringing about it.Ahhh, this is why so many people hate Moss. Now I see. You guys will all bench him after one week and he will end up going off this week.... Thanks, knowing this I'll keep him in the lineup.
jurb26
Footballguy
Nor would I and I think I've been very vocal about how good I thnk the Balt D is, long before last week too. I'm still gonna start Moss.
Much like I would still start any of the above guys mentioned if I had them.Klecko HOF
Footballguy
The only thing they have in common is the fact that they are the starting players at their respective positions.Moss is in the worst position of them all. No way in hell can you compare LT and SA to Moss right now. LT has a big, solid offensive line in front of him right now, something Moss does not. LT has Antonio Gates and a very good D that will give him many opportunities, as well as arguably the best blocking fullback in football. Moss has a sieve on his offensive line, a bad, inaccurate QB and an untested kid at backup. Moss also has few options to help prevent teams from double teaming him. Jerry Porter is an ######## and faces the very r eal possibility ofbeing traded.Shaun still has an excellent line, Pro Bowl QB, and good wideouts in Burleson, DJax and now, Deion Branch. His D is also good.To say that they are in the same boat is a HUGE stretch. I would seriously consider trading Moss, although not right now. I'd wait for the dust to settle a bit.Moss is your teams WR1 if you have him. So are LJ and SA, only RB1s. All of these guys were rated in the top 5 of there repective positons. You don't bench them after one week. I don't care how bad they played or things looked. What about Chambers, should he be benched after week one? How about Chad Johnson? What about D. Jackson? Hummm, then theres Roy Williams? Reggie Wayne? The list cold go on. These are all likley WR1s on Fantasy teams though. Do you advocate benching all of these guys too?Brother take off the blinders. This is absolutely in no way like the LJ/SA situations after week 1. No way.I understand starting him...but I can't imagine there is a single Moss owner who is not cringing about it.Ahhh, this is why so many people hate Moss. Now I see. You guys will all bench him after one week and he will end up going off this week.... Thanks, knowing this I'll keep him in the lineup.
buddyboy
Footballguy
I don't understand why you would bench Moss after a bad game, even if it is vs a tough defense. Never bench your studs, right? Moss is a great WR so you play him. Maybe he has another poor game, but, unless he is hurt you play him the next game too. I can't back it up in stats, but I think he has too much potenial for a 100 yd rec or, 2 TD game to sit unless you have some unbelievable WRs on your bench.
jurb26
Footballguy
Who in the world is talking about LT?
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I hear you. As a Moss owner, I'm still shell shocked at what I saw Monday night. That team out there didn't even look like it belonged in the NFL. Miami, Seattle, Cincy and Detroit didn't put up many points but looked to have the ability to actually move the ball. Culpepper and Kitna actually had decent yardage. Whatever is wrong with the Raiders, it better get fixed fast. I'm with you about having to start Moss. Unless he's hurt he's a #1 WR, on an albeit crappy team. I've got him in a distance scoring league, no ppr, so it's a no-brainer. It would be nice if the QB, whoever it is, could actually get a pass off one of these games.Moss is your teams WR1 if you have him. So are LJ and SA, only RB1s. All of these guys were rated in the top 5 of there repective positons. You don't bench them after one week. I don't care how bad they played or things looked. What about Chambers, should he be benched after week one? How about Chad Johnson? What about D. Jackson? Hummm, then theres Roy Williams? Reggie Wayne? The list cold go on. These are all likley WR1s on Fantasy teams though. Do you advocate benching all of these guys too?Brother take off the blinders. This is absolutely in no way like the LJ/SA situations after week 1. No way.I understand starting him...but I can't imagine there is a single Moss owner who is not cringing about it.Ahhh, this is why so many people hate Moss. Now I see. You guys will all bench him after one week and he will end up going off this week.... Thanks, knowing this I'll keep him in the lineup.
Ummmm, your crowing about this? Thirty wide recievers were taken in your league before Randy Moss? With the horrible week the Raiders just had, Randy Moss was the 35th wide reciever in WCOFF scoring (which means 12 teams start 3 WR minimum league he is a virtually automatic start). Prorated over 16 games his 9 point performance would be 144 or EIGHTEENTH in WCOFF scoring for the 2005 season. Everyone is calling this an ugly performance. And your going to bench him? Its unlikely that the Raven's will pitch another shutout, and Moss is stil the most likely Raider to score. You've just seen his basic floor when healthy and the numbers still say he should start. (And I did this last week benching Driver against the Bears for Henry starting against the Chiefs.... never bench your studs!)
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Moss starts for me all year, unless he's hurt or on a bye.
I have Moss, Djax, Driver, and Bryant....and no Bryant is not starting over Moss.
I have Moss, Djax, Driver, and Bryant....and no Bryant is not starting over Moss.
jurb26
Footballguy
I would start Bryant over Jackson.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Moss has been held to under 50 receiving yards and no TD 22 times in his career.
In the game after, Moss totaled 90 receptions, 1582 yards, and 13 TD.
That works out to 4.1 receptions, 72 yards, 0.6 TD, and 10.7 fantasy ppg.
There's probably ittle bearing on that in Oakland (since most of his stats were in Minnesota) and also he's facing a dtrong defense this time around.
In the game after, Moss totaled 90 receptions, 1582 yards, and 13 TD.
That works out to 4.1 receptions, 72 yards, 0.6 TD, and 10.7 fantasy ppg.
There's probably ittle bearing on that in Oakland (since most of his stats were in Minnesota) and also he's facing a dtrong defense this time around.
Delusions Of Adequacy
Footballguy
Never. Sit. Your. Studs.
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Just went to my teams website and saw where I was offered Harrison for Moss.
Hmm
Hmm
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Not to hijack, but DJax will be back this week. By back I mean he'll have a field day vs Arizona, IMO.I would start Bryant over Jackson.
videoguy505
Footballguy
I may be crazy, but I'm considering it. I have Plaxico, Randy, and Javon. Plax vs. PHI, Javon vs. KC, somewhat more confidence inspiring toward upside than Moss trying to grab the floaters Brooks will be chucking under pressure.
Plummer is my QB, and I'd thought I'd never consider starting a WR on the same team as the QB to be such a benefit... but Javon could even out Plummer's scoring (-7 last week) and I could get the bonus of double TD points should one happen. If Javon's covered by a weak KC player it could work out nicely. I think Javon could play as well as Moss and Plax is my stud right now...
Plummer is my QB, and I'd thought I'd never consider starting a WR on the same team as the QB to be such a benefit... but Javon could even out Plummer's scoring (-7 last week) and I could get the bonus of double TD points should one happen. If Javon's covered by a weak KC player it could work out nicely. I think Javon could play as well as Moss and Plax is my stud right now...
my man otis
Footballguy
It doesn't help that the Aaron "King of Garbage Time" Brooks got benched for Walters during garbage time. That's a trend to look out for - if it continues it hurts Moss.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I am starting Randy over Wilford and Cotchery this week.
kupcho1
Footballguy
jonessed
Footballguy
Shell said he got benched because he was taking a beating. I doubt he gets sacked seven times in a game often.
my man otis
Footballguy
Honestly I heard that and laughed. It's either BS (and bad BS at that) or Shell is a dumber coach that I though. Per my count the Raiders were down 16-0 with 9:48 in the game when Walter took over. Sounds like enough time to put two scores on the board, or at least try.So three things, either Shell is:- Lying- Stupid- Gave up
