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Anyone concerned about LaDainian Tomlinson? (1 Viewer)

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LT is widely seen as a top 3 lock and going #1 in many drafts. I looked at the SOS provided by the Draft Dominator and it says SD RBs have toughest schedule for weeks 15 and 16 and even worse if you playoffs include week 14. I also know he has struggled atleast the past two years in not meeting expectations in the playoffs. Is this concerning to anyone or am I putting to much weight on SOS and a few unlucky weeks the past few years?

 
LT is widely seen as a top 3 lock and going #1 in many drafts. I looked at the SOS provided by the Draft Dominator and it says SD RBs have toughest schedule for weeks 15 and 16 and even worse if you playoffs include week 14. I also know he has struggled atleast the past two years in not meeting expectations in the playoffs. Is this concerning to anyone or am I putting to much weight on SOS and a few unlucky weeks the past few years?
IMO-when you're talking a stud of his caliber, you ignore the SOS and just draft him and start him every week.Now as for the end of season struggle in our fantasy playoffs, I haven't researched it but if that's the case then you have something to consider. Not much point in having a stud all year just to lose him when you need him most. If you can consider options such as LJ and Alexander then you could do that. Otherwise if you're uncomfortable then why not consider trading down?

 
LT is widely seen as a top 3 lock and going #1 in many drafts. I looked at the SOS provided by the Draft Dominator and it says SD RBs have toughest schedule for weeks 15 and 16 and even worse if you playoffs include week 14. I also know he has struggled atleast the past two years in not meeting expectations in the playoffs. Is this concerning to anyone or am I putting to much weight on SOS and a few unlucky weeks the past few years?
IMO-when you're talking a stud of his caliber, you ignore the SOS and just draft him and start him every week.Now as for the end of season struggle in our fantasy playoffs, I haven't researched it but if that's the case then you have something to consider. Not much point in having a stud all year just to lose him when you need him most. If you can consider options such as LJ and Alexander then you could do that. Otherwise if you're uncomfortable then why not consider trading down?
I dont actualyl own and picks to consider taking him just wondering if people have looked into it and if he is really worth the value of a top 3 RB or if you would be better served to trade down like you said
 
Week 15: Kansas City at San Diego 4:05 p.m.

Week 16: San Diego at Seattle 4:15 p.m.

:no: I'm not worried. Seattle's run D is tough, but San Diego's is better.

Those are going to be HUGE games for FFers. Kind of weird to see the top 3 picks facing each other in the FF playoffs.

 
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RUSHING/RECV STATS

LT

LT's December totals(5 Games)

431yards, 23.5% of his yrly yardage total

117 touches, 30% of his yrly total

1TD, .05% of his yrly TD Total

I havent done Rush/Recv for 03 and 04 yet

RUSHING STATS

LT's 2005 December totals(5 Games)

376 rushing yards, 25.7% of his yrly rushing total

103 rushes, 30.4% of his yrly total

1 rushing TD, .05% of his yrly rushing TD Total

LT's 2004 December totals(4 Games)

436 rushing yards, 32.7% of his yrly rushing total

102 rushes, 30.1% of his yrly total

6 Rushing TDs, 35.3% of his yrly rushing TD Total

LT's 2003 December totals(4 Games)

473 rushing yards*, 28.8% of his rushing total

*243 of it in wk17

*91 in week 16

*51 in week 15

*88 in week 14

98 rushes, 31.3% of his yrly carries

4 Rushing TDs, 22.2% of his yrly rushing TD Total

so if you look at 2003 and 2005 you see that LT hasnt been his normal LT self in december(of course with the exception of that week 17 in 2003, you know that week its the one after just about everyones Super Bowl

 
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LT is widely seen as a top 3 lock and going #1 in many drafts. I looked at the SOS provided by the Draft Dominator and it says SD RBs have toughest schedule for weeks 15 and 16 and even worse if you playoffs include week 14. I also know he has struggled atleast the past two years in not meeting expectations in the playoffs. Is this concerning to anyone or am I putting to much weight on SOS and a few unlucky weeks the past few years?
In our league the playoffs are week 15/16 this year was the "ONLY" year he struggled. I don't understand were this keeps coming from but it's "FALSE". I've had LT2 since his rookie season and he's been playoff Gold with the exception of last year. :football: P.S. No, I'm not worried.

 
Week 15: Kansas City at San Diego 4:05 p.m.

Week 16: San Diego at Seattle 4:15 p.m.

:no: I'm not worried. Seattle's run D is tough, but San Diego's is better.

Those are going to be HUGE games for FFers. Kind of weird to see the top 3 picks facing each other in the FF playoffs.
Got tickets to the SD/KC game week 15 and it should be fun to watch the top 2 backs face off.
 
LT is widely seen as a top 3 lock and going #1 in many drafts. I looked at the SOS provided by the Draft Dominator and it says SD RBs have toughest schedule for weeks 15 and 16 and even worse if you playoffs include week 14. I also know he has struggled atleast the past two years in not meeting expectations in the playoffs. Is this concerning to anyone or am I putting to much weight on SOS and a few unlucky weeks the past few years?
In our league the playoffs are week 15/16 this year was the "ONLY" year he struggled. I don't understand were this keeps coming from but it's "FALSE". I've had LT2 since his rookie season and he's been playoff Gold with the exception of last year. :football: P.S. No, I'm not worried.
Agree. He did miss week 16 in '04 but he went for 170/2 in week 15.
 
LT is widely seen as a top 3 lock and going #1 in many drafts. I looked at the SOS provided by the Draft Dominator and it says SD RBs have toughest schedule for weeks 15 and 16 and even worse if you playoffs include week 14. I also know he has struggled atleast the past two years in not meeting expectations in the playoffs. Is this concerning to anyone or am I putting to much weight on SOS and a few unlucky weeks the past few years?
In our league the playoffs are week 15/16 this year was the "ONLY" year he struggled. I don't understand were this keeps coming from but it's "FALSE". I've had LT2 since his rookie season and he's been playoff Gold with the exception of last year. :football: P.S. No, I'm not worried.
Agree. He did miss week 16 in '04 but he went for 170/2 in week 15.
He had two TDs in week 15, and another two in week 16. He sat out week 17 because the team had already clinched the division.
 
I'm more worried about the fact that LT gets his stats in bunches...

in 8 games in 2005, he failed to rush for over 76 yards...

LT also had 5 100+ yard games last year, and in 4 of those 5 games, he scored 2 or more tds...he also had just 1 td over the final 5 weeks of the season..

 
I'm more worried about the fact that LT gets his stats in bunches...

in 8 games in 2005, he failed to rush for over 76 yards...

LT also had 5 100+ yard games last year, and in 4 of those 5 games, he scored 2 or more tds...he also had just 1 td over the final 5 weeks of the season..
Lots of RBs get their stats in bunches.Besides, why only look at last year? LT has been a bona fide stud ever since he entered the league. Not singling you out, but I'm not quite sure why people are nitpicking the guy's production.

 
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I'm more worried about the fact that LT gets his stats in bunches...

in 8 games in 2005, he failed to rush for over 76 yards...

LT also had 5 100+ yard games last year, and in 4 of those 5 games, he scored 2 or more tds...he also had just 1 td over the final 5 weeks of the season..
The guy set the all time records for td's in consecutive games. LT has seemed to have a bit of a nagging injury the last two season though, a groin in 04 and broken rib in 05. These are the kind o injurys that slowed him down but didn't make him miss time.

His handcuff is still relatively cheap, so I'd take him with confidence, grabb Turner, and hope he isn't slowed by some nagging injury weeks 14,15,16

 
The argument that "what good is having a Stud RB if he won't be there for you when you need him most (playoffs)" makes no sense to me as it is a very real possibility that without him you MAY NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AT ALL.

There is no doubt that matchups play a role in player production and need to be considered when setting your weekly lineup, but if you choose to take an inferior RB simply because you like his playoff matchups better than LT's then please get in a league with me. I would love to take all your studs who have tough games in the playoffs to carry me through the regular season and I'll take my chances that they'll produce when it counts.

 
I'm more worried about the fact that LT gets his stats in bunches...

in 8 games in 2005, he failed to rush for over 76 yards...

LT also had 5 100+ yard games last year, and in 4 of those 5 games, he scored 2 or more tds...he also had just 1 td over the final 5 weeks of the season..
The Chargers lost their left tackle and LT got his ribs purposely damaged during a pileup around week 12.
 
The argument that "what good is having a Stud RB if he won't be there for you when you need him most (playoffs)" makes no sense to me as it is a very real possibility that without him you MAY NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AT ALL.

There is no doubt that matchups play a role in player production and need to be considered when setting your weekly lineup, but if you choose to take an inferior RB simply because you like his playoff matchups better than LT's then please get in a league with me. I would love to take all your studs who have tough games in the playoffs to carry me through the regular season and I'll take my chances that they'll produce when it counts.
You have to take that in the context it was intended. It was a scenario. A what if scenario. When you have options this is just 1 aspect to consider when comparing players. Ignoring it isn't the best option in many cases. IOW-if player A is more consistent than player B from the regular season to the playoffs then why not chose the the more consistent back?
 
Week 15: Kansas City at San Diego 4:05 p.m.

Week 16: San Diego at Seattle 4:15 p.m.

:no: I'm not worried. Seattle's run D is tough, but San Diego's is better.

Those are going to be HUGE games for FFers. Kind of weird to see the top 3 picks facing each other in the FF playoffs.
Seattle's run defense will be better than SD's this year. That game is also in Seattle. Rivers will be in over his head.
 
Week 15: Kansas City at San Diego 4:05 p.m.

Week 16: San Diego at Seattle 4:15 p.m.

:no: I'm not worried. Seattle's run D is tough, but San Diego's is better.

Those are going to be HUGE games for FFers. Kind of weird to see the top 3 picks facing each other in the FF playoffs.
Seattle's run defense will be better than SD's this year. That game is also in Seattle. Rivers will be in over his head.
You're guessing that on June 9th? I don't even know if we'll know that on October 9th.
 
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Week 15: Kansas City at San Diego 4:05 p.m.

Week 16: San Diego at Seattle 4:15 p.m.

:no: I'm not worried. Seattle's run D is tough, but San Diego's is better.

Those are going to be HUGE games for FFers. Kind of weird to see the top 3 picks facing each other in the FF playoffs.
Seattle's run defense will be better than SD's this year. That game is also in Seattle. Rivers will be in over his head.
You're guessing that on June 9th? I don't even know if we'll know that on October 9th.
One guess deserves another.Anyway, I'm predicting Seattle to field a top 3-5 defense this season. The LB trio of Peterson, Tatupu, and Hill is going to be scary good.

 
My mistake on saying he has struggled the last couple of years it was only last year. But last year in week 15 he was ranked RB #27 and week 16 ranked RB #33. This could have just been an aberration but I find it hard to believe that to many people coudl have won leagues with those kinds of numbers the #1 overall player drafted last year.

I am not trying to discount what he does in the regular season but if he cant win you your championships if he worth keeping the top 3 pick and not trading down for more solid options?

 
Week 15: Kansas City at San Diego 4:05 p.m.

Week 16: San Diego at Seattle 4:15 p.m.

:no: I'm not worried. Seattle's run D is tough, but San Diego's is better.

Those are going to be HUGE games for FFers. Kind of weird to see the top 3 picks facing each other in the FF playoffs.
Seattle's run defense will be better than SD's this year. That game is also in Seattle. Rivers will be in over his head.
Rivers might be alright by then, or he might be on the bench. As for SD/Sea run D, you may be right. If Donnie Edwards leaves, Seattles will probably be better. But, we don't know yet. My comment was a bad one, there's way too many thing to happen before then to make that call. SD's was better last year.

Either way, I'm not worried.

 
The argument that "what good is having a Stud RB if he won't be there for you when you need him most (playoffs)" makes no sense to me as it is a very real possibility that without him you MAY NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AT ALL.

There is no doubt that matchups play a role in player production and need to be considered when setting your weekly lineup, but if you choose to take an inferior RB simply because you like his playoff matchups better than LT's then please get in a league with me.  I would love to take all your studs who have tough games in the playoffs to carry me through the regular season and I'll take my chances that they'll produce when it counts.
You have to take that in the context it was intended. It was a scenario. A what if scenario. When you have options this is just 1 aspect to consider when comparing players. Ignoring it isn't the best option in many cases. IOW-if player A is more consistent than player B from the regular season to the playoffs then why not chose the the more consistent back?
Having reread my post I can see that it comes off a bit condescending and that wasn't the spirit in which it was intended.My feeling was that the original question seemed to be making a case to select a RB who may do less for the full season, but may have better matchups for the playoffs. My opinion is that the playoffs matter when the playoffs get here, but until then its all about stacking your team for the first 13 or 14 games.

If I'm deciding between RB2 and WR3 then schedule may have greater implications, but when it comes to LT, the only thought should be "God I'm glad I had one of the 1st three picks." He is too valuable from start to finish in FF to worry about weeks 14-17.

If I came across as arrogant or dismissive I apologize, that wasn't my intention.

 
Week 15: Kansas City at San Diego 4:05 p.m.

Week 16: San Diego at Seattle 4:15 p.m.

:no: I'm not worried. Seattle's run D is tough, but San Diego's is better.

Those are going to be HUGE games for FFers. Kind of weird to see the top 3 picks facing each other in the FF playoffs.
Seattle's run defense will be better than SD's this year. That game is also in Seattle. Rivers will be in over his head.
You're guessing that on June 9th? I don't even know if we'll know that on October 9th.
One guess deserves another.Anyway, I'm predicting Seattle to field a top 3-5 defense this season.
Top 3-5 may not cut it. The Chargers had the #1 run defense last year.
 
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If Donnie Edwards leaves, Seattles will probably be better.
If Donnie Edwards is traded, the Chargers' run D may be improved (although the pass D would suffer).
 
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Week 15: Kansas City at San Diego 4:05 p.m.

Week 16: San Diego at Seattle 4:15 p.m.

:no: I'm not worried. Seattle's run D is tough, but San Diego's is better.

Those are going to be HUGE games for FFers. Kind of weird to see the top 3 picks facing each other in the FF playoffs.
Seattle's run defense will be better than SD's this year. That game is also in Seattle. Rivers will be in over his head.
You're guessing that on June 9th? I don't even know if we'll know that on October 9th.
One guess deserves another.Anyway, I'm predicting Seattle to field a top 3-5 defense this season.
Top 3-5 may not cut it. The Chargers had the #1 run defense last year.
The Chargers also had one of the worst passing defenses in the league last year. Seattle's passing game should be able to open up the run for Alexander. And as I stated earlier, I don't think Rivers will perform particularly well against a great Seahawks defense on the road in a very hostile environment. If Rivers makes a few mistakes, he'll put the Chargers defense in some very tough spots.

 
The argument that "what good is having a Stud RB if he won't be there for you when you need him most (playoffs)" makes no sense to me as it is a very real possibility that without him you MAY NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AT ALL.

There is no doubt that matchups play a role in player production and need to be considered when setting your weekly lineup, but if you choose to take an inferior RB simply because you like his playoff matchups better than LT's then please get in a league with me.  I would love to take all your studs who have tough games in the playoffs to carry me through the regular season and I'll take my chances that they'll produce when it counts.
You have to take that in the context it was intended. It was a scenario. A what if scenario. When you have options this is just 1 aspect to consider when comparing players. Ignoring it isn't the best option in many cases. IOW-if player A is more consistent than player B from the regular season to the playoffs then why not chose the the more consistent back?
Having reread my post I can see that it comes off a bit condescending and that wasn't the spirit in which it was intended.My feeling was that the original question seemed to be making a case to select a RB who may do less for the full season, but may have better matchups for the playoffs. My opinion is that the playoffs matter when the playoffs get here, but until then its all about stacking your team for the first 13 or 14 games.

If I'm deciding between RB2 and WR3 then schedule may have greater implications, but when it comes to LT, the only thought should be "God I'm glad I had one of the 1st three picks." He is too valuable from start to finish in FF to worry about weeks 14-17.

If I came across as arrogant or dismissive I apologize, that wasn't my intention.
You're good. I didn't take it wrong, just thought I responded in a way that needed clarification. I'm not disagreeing with you so much as adding another point to consider. Getting LT is never a bad thing. I thought the original poster was making some assumptions and I was playing along to illustrate a point.Thanks for adding this post however. It's always appreciated when things are clarified. :thumbup:

 
If Donnie Edwards leaves, Seattles will probably be better.
If Donnie Edwards is traded, the Chargers' run D may be improved (although the pass D would suffer).
somehow I don't see that. You really think SD will do better than 84.3 yards allowed, 3.5 yards per, after losing one of the best LBs in the game? :fishing:

 
If Donnie Edwards leaves, Seattles will probably be better.
If Donnie Edwards is traded, the Chargers' run D may be improved (although the pass D would suffer).
somehow I don't see that. You really think SD will do better than 84.3 yards allowed, 3.5 yards per, after losing one of the best LBs in the game? :fishing:
Donnie Edwards is not particularly good against the run. I don't know where to look for a stat like this, but I strongly suspect that teams gained substantially more than 3.5 yards per carry when they ran at Edwards. (I do know that 56 percent of his tackles came 4 or more yards past the line of scrimmage last season. And 24 percent of those occurred after gains of 6 or more yards. Link.)
 
If Donnie Edwards leaves, Seattles will probably be better.
If Donnie Edwards is traded, the Chargers' run D may be improved (although the pass D would suffer).
somehow I don't see that. You really think SD will do better than 84.3 yards allowed, 3.5 yards per, after losing one of the best LBs in the game? :fishing:
Donnie Edwards is not particularly good against the run. I don't know where to look for a stat like this, but I strongly suspect that teams gained substantially more than 3.5 yards per carry when they ran at Edwards. (I do know that 56 percent of his tackles came 4 or more yards past the line of scrimmage last season. And 24 percent of those occurred after gains of 6 or more yards. Link.)
Stats like those really don't show his impact. I'd be much more interested in seeing the opponents stats with him off the field vs. on it.
56 percent of his tackles came 4 or more yards past the line of scrimmage last season.
So, almost half of his tackles were less than 4 yards from the LOS.
 
Stats like those really don't show his impact.
I agree. Watching the games is better than looking at stats. I've watched the games. IMO, Donnie Edwards is not very good against the run. He doesn't miss tackles, but he often gets dragged for extra yardage across the first-down marker. (There is more discussion of this issue in this thread.)
 
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