Anyone ever done a rookie draft auction? (1 Viewer)

[bigmiiiiike]

For the same reasons that many of us prefer auction to linear drafts, I was pondering if there could be a way to do auction rookie drafts for existing dynasty leagues. Obviously one of the purposes of the rookie draft is to make the worst teams better, and this is reflected by the nonserpentine linear manner of most rookie drafts, but I think the same ends could be achieved in an auction format. i.e., just as you'd rank a 12 team league in reverse order to determine the rookie draft order, you could assign $$$ available for auctioning, with the most money going to the worst team. Something like:

worst team gets (guy drafting at what would be 1.01): $110

second worst team gets (1.02): $100

1.03 $90

1.04 $80

1.05 $75

1.06 $70

1.07 $65

1.08 $60

1.09 $55

1.10 $50

1.11 $45

1.12 $40

This way, the guy who would be drafting at 1.01 can guarantee that he gets his top guy if he wants him, because he can just bid $101 and no one else could touch him (or he wouldn't have to if the 1.02 guy wasn't pushing him). OR, the 1.01 guy could sit back and grab 2 or 3 mid first round types for $30-40 each. You get the idea. You could even go so far as to allow teams to trade their auction money in the same way they trade picks now. I just came up with this when I was daydreaming in a meeting, so I'm sure there is some more scientific number crunching that could be done to make the values most fair, but what do you think about this and has anyone done something like it???

 

[thriftyrocker]

You could even go so far as to allow teams to trade their auction money in the same way they trade picks now.

You'd have to wait til the end of the year to trade picks/money?

 

[Jerry Lawler]

You could even go so far as to allow teams to trade their auction money in the same way they trade picks now.

You'd have to wait til the end of the year to trade picks/money?

By trading for someone's 1st round pick, you would get whatever rookie auction money they are eventually awarded.Rookie auctions are a little easier to implement in salary cap leagues.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

You could even go so far as to allow teams to trade their auction money in the same way they trade picks now.

You'd have to wait til the end of the year to trade picks/money?

By trading for someone's 1st round pick, you would get whatever rookie auction money they are eventually awarded.

But all the money isn't just for the first round pick - it's the entire draft.This is the problem I see with the method - no trades involving draft picks.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

I will be doing an IDP ookie draft (auction style) after the NFL draft. 16 teams are currently at a 36-man roster (obtained via auction). We will all select 6 more players (rookies) with $100 of auction funds available. There is no trading of picks, but you can trade bid money. As of right now, no trades have been announced. We are all going in with $100 for 6 players. It should be interesting.

 

[Jerry Lawler]

But all the money isn't just for the first round pick - it's the entire draft.

This is the problem I see with the method - no trades involving draft picks.

In this system, I'm proposing that you would receive the auction $ associated with ANY pick you acquire in a trade, not just 1st round picks. The trading problem is easy to fix. The biggest challenge of a rookie auction is that it tends to reduce the advantage that the worst teams would typically have. In fact, a bigger differential in auction $ for the worst teams might be merited.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

I should have clarified. Each team gets $100 in funds for six player or 16x6 = 96 total players. The money is for the entire draft of 96 players, but each team selects only six.

 

[bigmiiiiike]

I should have clarified. Each team gets $100 in funds for six player or 16x6 = 96 total players. The money is for the entire draft of 96 players, but each team selects only six.

So there is no rookie draft advantages for the worst teams?

 

[Jeff Haseley]

I should have clarified. Each team gets $100 in funds for six player or 16x6 = 96 total players. The money is for the entire draft of 96 players, but each team selects only six.

So there is no rookie draft advantages for the worst teams?

Not yet. We just started the league this year. Not sure what we'll do - maybe give the worst teams more bid money for the rookie draft.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I should have clarified. Each team gets $100 in funds for six player or 16x6 = 96 total players. The money is for the entire draft of 96 players, but each team selects only six.

So there is no rookie draft advantages for the worst teams?

Maybe this is their first season, so no need to weigh the funds...

 

[jeter23]

You could even go so far as to allow teams to trade their auction money in the same way they trade picks now.

You'd have to wait til the end of the year to trade picks/money?

By trading for someone's 1st round pick, you would get whatever rookie auction money they are eventually awarded.

But all the money isn't just for the first round pick - it's the entire draft.This is the problem I see with the method - no trades involving draft picks.

Any other thoughts on this? I am starting an auction dynasty in which we will conduct a rookie auction each year.Teams are given money to bid with based on final record/standings, the worse the team, the more the money they get. The draft will be 3 rounds and one team could elect to pool their money (1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks) to go after one player, or spread it out among several guys.

 

[JamesTheScot]

For the same reasons that many of us prefer auction to linear drafts, I was pondering if there could be a way to do auction rookie drafts for existing dynasty leagues. Obviously one of the purposes of the rookie draft is to make the worst teams better, and this is reflected by the nonserpentine linear manner of most rookie drafts, but I think the same ends could be achieved in an auction format. i.e., just as you'd rank a 12 team league in reverse order to determine the rookie draft order, you could assign $$$ available for auctioning, with the most money going to the worst team. Something like:

worst team gets (guy drafting at what would be 1.01): $110

second worst team gets (1.02): $100

1.03 $90

1.04 $80

1.05 $75

1.06 $70

1.07 $65

1.08 $60

1.09 $55

1.10 $50

1.11 $45

1.12 $40

This way, the guy who would be drafting at 1.01 can guarantee that he gets his top guy if he wants him, because he can just bid $101 and no one else could touch him (or he wouldn't have to if the 1.02 guy wasn't pushing him). OR, the 1.01 guy could sit back and grab 2 or 3 mid first round types for $30-40 each. You get the idea. You could even go so far as to allow teams to trade their auction money in the same way they trade picks now. I just came up with this when I was daydreaming in a meeting, so I'm sure there is some more scientific number crunching that could be done to make the values most fair, but what do you think about this and has anyone done something like it???

I'm a little puzzled by your question. How does your dynasty system populate teams? If it does so by a draft, then it makes no sense to auction rookies. Why mix an auction for rookies in with a draft system for vets?

On the other hand, if it populates teams by auction, the rookies would get auctioned anyway. So all you need to do, if you are wanting to help weak teams rebuild, is give them some kind of advantage in the rookie acquisition system.

Our league is a contract/auction league with a salary cap. We have a hybrid rookie draft/auction which gives weak teams an advantage in getting rookies but still preserves the market driven pricing of the rookies.

Draft order is determined by reverse order of finish from previous year, so last place team gets pick 1.01.

We have a slot price per pick per position based upon a % of the top 5 at that position as of the end of last year's auction. That price then decreases as the slots progress. So a QB taken at 1.01 would have a price of X but a RB taken at 1.01 would have a price of Y and a QB taken at 1.02 would have a price of Z (less than X, obviously).

So an owner can pick (draft) a player unopposed at this pre-determined price. But that owner, if he thinks the slot price is too high for that player, can elect to throw out a rookie's name and call for an auction of that player instead. Then the other owners who want that player gets to bid on him. Once bidding ends, the picking owner can elect to match that winning bid or let the player go the highest bidder.

It may seem odd at first glance, but it actually works quite well. Since the price an owner will pay for a player is unique to that owner's evaluation of that player, it's difficult to come up with a pre-priced system where every pick is priced correctly for the quality of the players available in the eyes of the picking owner. The auction option allows for a price correction according to market forces but, since the owner of the pick has the option to match, having a higher pick still has value since you want to be the one calling up a player for auction instead of having someone else do it and having them opt to match your high bid.

This system tends to maximize the money spent on the players but also gives the weaker teams a chance to win the better players since they will more likely be the owner tossing those stud players out as picks or auctions.

We also have a rule that requires an owner to have a pick in that round to be able to bid on players in that round. This keeps some additional value with the picks so people don't give them away.

All monies spent on rookies come out of your normal cap money. You don't get new money or seperate money for rookies. If you want to free up more money or need roster space to sign big time rookies, you have to make room with cuts. Those cuts then enrich our big veteran/free agent auction in the fall.