anyone going to try and trade off Kevin Smith (1 Viewer)

[dboysrock94]

I know Smith had a big game, he plays a awesome defense next week then leshoure is back week 3 if you can move him this week do you do it and what price are you trying to get for him. I own him and plan on trying to move him off my teams probably not going to be asking a ton of value for him to many injuries, hard schedule, and leshoure should have no trouble taking over the starting spot

 

[rocketsauce]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

 

[MarcO]

I know Smith had a big game, he plays a awesome defense next week then leshoure is back week 3 if you can move him this week do you do it and what price are you trying to get for him. I own him and plan on trying to move him off my teams probably not going to be asking a ton of value for him to many injuries, hard schedule, and leshoure should have no trouble taking over the starting spot

- what has Leshoure shown you to make you think he should have no problem taking over the starting spot. I think Smith fits that offense better than Leshoure.

 

[mr roboto]

I know Smith had a big game, he plays a awesome defense next week then leshoure is back week 3 if you can move him this week do you do it and what price are you trying to get for him. I own him and plan on trying to move him off my teams probably not going to be asking a ton of value for him to many injuries, hard schedule, and leshoure should have no trouble taking over the starting spot

Why would LeShoure have 'no trouble' taking over the starting spot?

 

[Shawn]

I know Smith had a big game, he plays a awesome defense next week then leshoure is back week 3 if you can move him this week do you do it and what price are you trying to get for him. I own him and plan on trying to move him off my teams probably not going to be asking a ton of value for him to many injuries, hard schedule, and leshoure should have no trouble taking over the starting spot

Why would LeShoure have 'no trouble' taking over the starting spot?

yes, why... if smith can do that good let him play!

 

[knickstorm]

here's the thing,for who though? Just like a thread i saw where someone said sell high for Forte now. For who?!?! Ray Rice? of course not, who can you get to make that worthwhile. It's not like a stock where you keep the profit and wait for the next stock, if you trade the guy, someone's gotta take his spot.

I have Smith and am keeping him.

 

[Shawn]

Drafted smith in most lesgues keeping in all

 

[SameSongNDance]

I drafted Smith in a couple leagues. The thing is, there's absolutely no doubt his value is at it's peak right now. He won't have a sexier match up all season, at least while being a workhorse. I don't think Leshoure will steal the job outright, but at the very least this will be some kind of timeshare by mid-season. If you can grab someone who holds more value than the person I just described, take him. The fact that he plays SF next week won't help his case either. Also, I'm a huge K.Smith fan, but I won't let bias get in the way.

 

[jbz]

Everyone's situation is different. There might be some owner out there who has Fred Jackson and Michael Turner as their main RBs. They might be willing to trade for him. I'm holding. Leshoure hasn't proven anything and Smith has shown he can produce when healthy.

 

[DoubleG]

Everyone's situation is different. There might be some owner out there who has Fred Jackson and Michael Turner as their main RBs. They might be willing to trade for him. I'm holding. Leshoure hasn't proven anything and Smith has shown he can produce when healthy.

That's why it will be tough to trade him. Too many people (right or wrong) fear that some part of his body will explode on impact like a Pinto on any given carry.

 

[habsfan]

Given where the guy was taken (in redraft at least), I'm not interested in "selling". Even if you back out the TDs, his numbers weren't terrible and the sort he could easily reproduce in any given week. In dynasty, what's his value? He's probably worth more in your line-up than he is in a trade.

 

[donkshow]

LeShoure hasn't done much to warrant the starting position. If Smith keeps playing solid like this, they'll just role with him. It's not like LeShoure was a Top 3 RB so him coming back is a lock to get the starting job.

They'll ride Smith until he fizzles out or gets injured.

 

[DoubleG]

LeShoure hasn't done much to warrant the starting position. If Smith keeps playing solid like this, they'll just role with him. It's not like LeShoure was a Top 3 RB so him coming back is a lock to get the starting job.

They'll ride Smith until he fizzles out or gets injured.

FYP.

 

[mr roboto]

Can someone remind me of LeShoures career NFL stat line please.

TYIA

 

[VA703]

ksmith has looked better than leshoure all along..

not sure why people are ridnig leshoure so hard

 

[spm3485]

As a Foster and Kevin Smith owner, who doesn't own Tate (was swiped way too early)...I'm thinking of offering Smith for Tate. Thinking about it.

 

[Shutout]

It's probably a good thought to think about selling but like a lot of people mentioned, for what?

The factors I would consider here are:

-His tendency to get injured. It just simply can't be ignored for this guy, as much as I want to. I don't want to say I expect an injury but I know reality is anyone buying is going to be thinking about it so I must.

-The fact that he will have Leshoure to contend with. yes, LeShoure to some is a threat. To others, not. In reality, he is as much speculation as Ryan Williams was and we all know there is a BIG variation of opinions on him.

-THE BIG FACTOR: I don't expect the Lions to be this inept in the PASSING game and I think that directly impacts the running game opportunities. You can make a case as you see it.

-Will better passing games mean they get to grind it out more and INCREASE opportunities?

-Does it mean they get to grind it out but he LOSES opportunities if LeShoure does that well(there has awlays been mention that the HC sees LeShoure as "clock killer")?

-Does Jahvid Best completely derail Smith IF he comes back?

-Does big passing plays simply reduce the opportunites overall for the running game because its not needed?

 

[Minne]

What about kevin smith vs the 49ers this week? Sit him this week?

 

[Sweet Love]

Everyone's situation is different. There might be some owner out there who has Fred Jackson and Michael Turner as their main RBs. They might be willing to trade for him. I'm holding. Leshoure hasn't proven anything and Smith has shown he can produce when healthy.

Exactly. You may have a combo of Foster, S. Jackson, Spiller and Smith and not good WRs...if that is the case, move him for a WR. I think the exercise to be done is to figure out what RBs started slow or are hurt, and target teams especially if they have two of those guys:Fred JacksonTurnerWilliams/StewartRedmanChris JohnsonRichardsonIngram/ThomasHelu/RoysterBensonSteven JacksonWells/WilliamsThat is a pretty extensive list. While many vets do not overreact, the truth is, you have to look at the psyche of people. A person in your league, waited 9 months to draft, did countless hours of research, and started both Jacksons and bought Helu to go with Royster. They got whupped, and now are getting anxious. A WR blew up on their bench, and maybe they think they could plug him in for the starting WR he trades you...it happens all the time. I am not saying you will get a world beater, but maybe you walk away with a Garcon or you chip a little extra in an get Roddy when they think he is a major afterthought going forward.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Can someone remind me of LeShoures career NFL stat line please. TYIA

I don't think he's fumbled yet.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

What about kevin smith vs the 49ers this week? Sit him this week?

standard td leagues, yes.In ppr I might play him if I had no one elseNot a good match-up for sure

 

[Native]

Lions fans - who looked better in camp? Who was getting first team reps when both were healthy?

 

[Sir Psycho]

Will try to get Welker in exchange as this owner also lost F Jackson.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Any luck yet?

 

[cstu]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

 

[cstu]

Can someone remind me of LeShoures career NFL stat line please. TYIA

The Lions only signed him to a one year contract. What kind of loyalty do you think they have to him compared to their 2nd round pick last year? If they really thought Smith was special they would have given him more that a 1 year, $700k deal.

 

[Ray_T]

I wouldnt be looking to trade him yet.

if he has one or two more excellent games, then I'd start to entertain offers. At that point people may just look at stats and forget he is somewhat injury prone.

Just my opinion.

 

[mr roboto]

Can someone remind me of LeShoures career NFL stat line please. TYIA

The Lions only signed him to a one year contract. What kind of loyalty do you think they have to him compared to their 2nd round pick last year? If they really thought Smith was special they would have given him more that a 1 year, $700k deal.

Kinda weird answer to the question.

 

[Chazzhawk]

Lions fans - who looked better in camp? Who was getting first team reps when both were healthy?

Leshoure didn't really start playing until late in the preseason due to his injury last year. However, the Lions were extremely high on Leshoure last year before he blew out his achilles. Kevin Smith has never stayed healthy, it sucks because the kid has talent and works extremely hard, but the Lions traded up in the second round to get Leshoure, only a fool would think he isn't going to cut into the carries of an injury prone veteran. My advice is sell now.Also factor this in, Best MAY come off pup and play this year, and he will for sure get some touches to find out if he is healthy and because he is so explosive

 

[cstu]

Can someone remind me of LeShoures career NFL stat line please. TYIA

The Lions only signed him to a one year contract. What kind of loyalty do you think they have to him compared to their 2nd round pick last year? If they really thought Smith was special they would have given him more that a 1 year, $700k deal.

Kinda weird answer to the question.

I thought it was rhetorical...isn't your main point that Smith is proven and Leshoure isn't?

 

[mrip541]

I'm trying but no one is biting. Very little value apparently.

 

[mr roboto]

Can someone remind me of LeShoures career NFL stat line please. TYIA

The Lions only signed him to a one year contract. What kind of loyalty do you think they have to him compared to their 2nd round pick last year? If they really thought Smith was special they would have given him more that a 1 year, $700k deal.

Kinda weird answer to the question.

I thought it was rhetorical...isn't your main point that Smith is proven and Leshoure isn't?

Yea. I just don't put much stock in a rookie with no nfl reg season snaps coming off a career-altering injury taking snaps from a guy who proves he can produce. I know K smith has had a lot of injuries, but remember he was a 2nd rounder too. So you have...1. Injury prone vet who has proven he can produce drafted in the second2. Unproven rookie (essentially) coming off a major injury who hasn't proven a thing drafted in the second.

 

[mr roboto]

And the 1 year 700k deal is brilliant. Find out if smith can stay on the field and/or Mikel can come back. Perfect low-price contingency plan.

 

[RavenLunatic]

Depends completely on your lineup requirements and depth. I traded him away for Mike Wallace so I'm happy.

 

[SameSongNDance]

What about kevin smith vs the 49ers this week? Sit him this week?

His stat line will look something like..12-15/35/0 and 5-6 receptions for 20-30 yards. Seems arbitrary, yes, but I'm expecting no more than 50-60 total yards and a handful of receptions, good for 10-12 points in 1PPR leagues. IMO, he's a low upside flex.I've been trying to trade him off but yeah, no one in my leagues has goldfish memory. If he somehow manages a decent game vs. SF, I'll #### my pants and hold, though.

 

[Native]

Depends completely on your lineup requirements and depth. I traded him away for Mike Wallace so I'm happy.

Wow. Nice.

 

[Quoth the Raven]

so what are you guys doing with Best then? worth a stash?

I'm a Smith owner and looking at three options:

1) Keep Smith and trade for LeShoure - currently offering Hunter for LeShoure in one league...and not convinced how I feel about it.

2) Trade Smith to the LeShoure owner. Guy really doesn't have a great roster so not sure what I'd even ask for this at the moment

3) Keep Smith and pick up Best and sit on him for now.

thought I'd get more bites after Week 1, especially from the FJax of Chris Johnson owner, but nothing yet...

 

[SameSongNDance]

so what are you guys doing with Best then? worth a stash? I'm a Smith owner and looking at three options:1) Keep Smith and trade for LeShoure - currently offering Hunter for LeShoure in one league...and not convinced how I feel about it.2) Trade Smith to the LeShoure owner. Guy really doesn't have a great roster so not sure what I'd even ask for this at the moment3) Keep Smith and pick up Best and sit on him for now.thought I'd get more bites after Week 1, especially from the FJax of Chris Johnson owner, but nothing yet...

I truly don't think we'll see Best play another down in the NFL. For his sake, I hope this is the case.

 

[mdlane]

I think he is RB20 right now. I'd rather have him than Gore because there is more upside with K smith. I would not trade him away at less than that value. If he stays healthy I think he is RB15.

I might trade for him at RB24 value depending on how much I needed a RB and whether I could spare that kind of value.

So I think that range is like Hernandez, DJax territory.

 

[glumpy]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

This sort of thinking always gets me. You've got a player who is most likely your #2 or #3 and he breaks out in #1 form. Why is the reaction here always to trade him? I'm sitting in one league with him backing up Ray Rice, happy enough with my WR's, QB, and others, high score for the week--WHY TRADE??

 

[habsfan]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

This sort of thinking always gets me. You've got a player who is most likely your #2 or #3 and he breaks out in #1 form. Why is the reaction here always to trade him? I'm sitting in one league with him backing up Ray Rice, happy enough with my WR's, QB, and others, high score for the week--WHY TRADE??

It's a long season and RBs are at a premium. The day will come when I'll be glad I still have a guy that can chip in with rushing and catching out of the backfield the way KSmith can. It's all well and good to run this guy off your roster when your studs are healthy but wait until something goes wrong...

 

[mrip541]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

This sort of thinking always gets me. You've got a player who is most likely your #2 or #3 and he breaks out in #1 form. Why is the reaction here always to trade him? I'm sitting in one league with him backing up Ray Rice, happy enough with my WR's, QB, and others, high score for the week--WHY TRADE??

It's a long season and RBs are at a premium. The day will come when I'll be glad I still have a guy that can chip in with rushing and catching out of the backfield the way KSmith can. It's all well and good to run this guy off your roster when your studs are healthy but wait until something goes wrong...

I think the argument is that Kevin Smith never stays healthy and if by some miracle he does he'll be sharing time possibly with 2 other RBs by the end of the season.

 

[habsfan]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

This sort of thinking always gets me. You've got a player who is most likely your #2 or #3 and he breaks out in #1 form. Why is the reaction here always to trade him? I'm sitting in one league with him backing up Ray Rice, happy enough with my WR's, QB, and others, high score for the week--WHY TRADE??

It's a long season and RBs are at a premium. The day will come when I'll be glad I still have a guy that can chip in with rushing and catching out of the backfield the way KSmith can. It's all well and good to run this guy off your roster when your studs are healthy but wait until something goes wrong...

I think the argument is that Kevin Smith never stays healthy and if by some miracle he does he'll be sharing time possibly with 2 other RBs by the end of the season.

I do appreciate that argument. I'm just not sold that it happens anytime soon nor do I think I can "sell high" now for a piece that is definitively more valuable. The knocks against Smith are well known by potential buyers and the market reflects that.

 

[cstu]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

This sort of thinking always gets me. You've got a player who is most likely your #2 or #3 and he breaks out in #1 form. Why is the reaction here always to trade him? I'm sitting in one league with him backing up Ray Rice, happy enough with my WR's, QB, and others, high score for the week--WHY TRADE??

Because you can upgrade a starter for a backup player who may not even be healthy when you need him. His value is at his highest point right now since he had a good game and has no competition at the moment for carries. That will change week 3 and if he has a bad game against SF then his trade value will go way down.

 

[shader]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

This sort of thinking always gets me. You've got a player who is most likely your #2 or #3 and he breaks out in #1 form. Why is the reaction here always to trade him? I'm sitting in one league with him backing up Ray Rice, happy enough with my WR's, QB, and others, high score for the week--WHY TRADE??

Because he sucks?

 

[SameSongNDance]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

This sort of thinking always gets me. You've got a player who is most likely your #2 or #3 and he breaks out in #1 form. Why is the reaction here always to trade him? I'm sitting in one league with him backing up Ray Rice, happy enough with my WR's, QB, and others, high score for the week--WHY TRADE??

[*]he played STL

[*]he historically never plays a full 16

[*]he'll have Leshoure to contend with in a week

His value you is at it's absolute peak.

 

[solorca]

I received an offer of Kevin Smith (and a throw-in of Mike Goodson) for Stevie Johnson. I think it's a relatively fair offer, but I passed.

Personally, I like Kevin Smith's talent, but the returning Leshoure (and possibly Best around mid-season) plus the injury concerns just doesn't make him a guy I'm willing to invest too much in.

 

[solorca]

I mean, if someone wants to pay huge, sure. But I'm not dying to get rid of a guy that just put up the 2nd highest points among RBs so far for the week in my PPR. In that offense, with the amount of red zone time, he's a 2TD threat every game. Of course he's probably going to get injured (but so will most of the starting RBs in the league.)

So...kinda?

That's exactly the type of guy you try to trade away.

This sort of thinking always gets me. You've got a player who is most likely your #2 or #3 and he breaks out in #1 form. Why is the reaction here always to trade him? I'm sitting in one league with him backing up Ray Rice, happy enough with my WR's, QB, and others, high score for the week--WHY TRADE??

I did this with Jahvid Best two years in a row. Everyone said to sell him, and I refused, thinking I had struck gold. I got burned twice. If you trust the player, then by all means hang on...but to me, this situation screams "sell high".In this case however, his trade value may not be high enough to make it worth your while to sell him. I think a large majority of fantasy players don't trust him.

 

[DarkManX]

In my keeper I am trying to deal him as I am stacked at RB and his injury history isnt very flattering. Redraft ill hold on to him.

 

[VA703]

not sure if hes going to have a repeat week against this SF defense... i dont want to bench him but it is gonig to be tough