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Are NFL players allowed to play FF? (1 Viewer)
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Many of them do, so one would have to cobnclude that the league is not going to ban anyone that plays FFL.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Last year (or maybe the year before, I forget) Cato June was on the Colts, had Brady as his QB1, and was bummed that he had to start his QB2 the week they played New England. He loves his FF but doesn't want any hint of conflict of interest. Another guy that is very open about playing FF is Clinton Portis.I've seen other drafts done by players. Some of them draft like real noobs, but guys like June are apparently pretty good.There's probably an NFL player reading this very thread at some point. OK you, come in here and fess up!
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That would trouble me too.I was thinking about it today and I think that players/refs playing FF is actually very troubling. Especially since its possible to affect play without affecting the score (i.e. coming out of the game for a made up reason during garbage time) so its harder to prove that a player is throwing a game.
1. People dont gamble for rational reasons.2. No reason why a few NFL'ers couldnt get a league toegether with a million dollar buy in. You think they couldnt find 12 wealthy people to play?
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
1. Agree2. Ignoring #1, I still can't see how even 12 Mil would be enough to compensate for the potential loss of an NFL career, endorsements, and not being the butt of every fantasy football joke from now until kingdom come.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I heard a story once where Cooley knocked himself out of the playoffs because his opponent had him and he had a huge game.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I can't see how doing the things Michael Vick or Ricky Williams or Pacman Jones or Onterrio Smith did would be worth risking the loss of an NFL career either, but some guys just don't seem to get the big picture.
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Interesting. Come to think of it, I bet ADP's opponent had him last week and that ADP won his championship game...
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
It would seam like a good rule in a NFL player league would be that you have to take yourself and your points will be negative for any poor performance.
It's good to be LT.
"With the last pick, I select myself."
Or
even more fun for some other players,
"Do I have to pick myself." or
"you were in a fantasy league YOU weren't even drafted in" or worse
"you were in a league with your family and your momma didn't even draft you!"
It's good to be LT.
"With the last pick, I select myself."
Or
even more fun for some other players,
"Do I have to pick myself." or
"you were in a fantasy league YOU weren't even drafted in" or worse
"you were in a league with your family and your momma didn't even draft you!"
Footballg
Footballguy
Is that really fair to Cedric Benson?
whole-show
Footballguy
When I starting reading this thread and saw that comment I was going to say the same thing. Some just don't care and/or feel they won't be caughtHow is this different than gambling? Seriously.
To gamble is "to play at any game of chance for money or other stakes". It seems to me from that definition that you need two key components in order for something to be considered gambling- you need to be playing a game of chance, and you need to be playing for some sort of stakes. If you aren't playing for money, you could make a strong argument that fantasy football fits neither criteria.Edit: even if money WAS involved, that doesn't automatically make it gambling. For instance, there's certainly high stakes and a lot of chance involved in the stocks, but I doubt anyone honestly believes that the NFL would prohibit players from playing the market, right? I do think the NFL would discourage playing fantasy football for any sort of stakes, though, if for no other reason than to keep the integrity of its games above reproach.
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I see now that I didnt phrase the question properly. I wasnt interested in a hypothetical comparison of FF to gambling. Clearly if no money (or other financial consideration is involved) then it isnt gambling. And clearly not every game that isnt 100% skill with a financial reward is gambling. I'll try again -- How are players allowed to participate in FF leagues that DO have a financial reward of some sort and how is this different from them betting on the games they participate in? In both cases you have players that stand to gain or lose financially from a game of chance the outcome of which is derived from an underlying product (the NFL games, or, more specifically, their performance in those games) which they directly influence. How is that ok?
As a sidenote since you already brought up the stock market I'll say that my issue with players playing FF is probably similar to insiders not being allowed to trade stocks in their companies unless it is according to the strict guidelines determined by the SEC (and one of the reasons for these restrictions is the fear that without these regulations insiders will influence the underlying product (the company's performance)in order for them to benefit financially for an instrument (stocks) that is dependent on the company performance). I dont think the comparison is air tight but I'm not basing my position on this analogy either. Im just noting a similarity since you already mentioned the stock market.
heckmanm
Footballguy
Good point, and I could see it going 1 of 2 ways; either (a) each player MUST have himself on his own team; or (b) players in the league would be excluded from selection.Option (b) might make more sense if you think of, say, offensive linemen being in the same league.
Okay, I see now. Honestly, I seriously doubt that football players would be allowed to play in money leagues. Whether it's gambling or not (opinions fluctuate from state to state, but in my state, it *IS* considered gambling if you win money on fantasy football), as I said, the league's #1 priority is ensuring that its games are above reproach. I like your "insider trading" analogy, with the NFL playing the role of the SEC here.Blueb said:
gocolts
Footballguy
Because FF football is mainly luck. HTH
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