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Are we making the polarization worse? (Previously a Matt Gaetz joint) (1 Viewer)

I assume this thread will have the same purpose as the “extreme left” thread does: use anecdotes and crazy statements to condemn an entire group of people- in this case conservatives. 

 
What exactly does being overeducated mean?

Is that the quiet part of the GOP platform coming through?

 
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Captain Cranks said:
What exactly does being overeducated mean?
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When I see people use this term, it usually means something in the general vicinity of "has educational credentials beyond what you might have predicted on the basis of his or her raw intelligence."  

In context, it's almost always an elliptical way of calling someone stupid, in a way very similar to how the term "midwit" works.  It's a real phenomenon though.  If you work in an occupation that requires educational credentials beyond the baccalaureate level, you almost certainly know some people of very average intelligence who are still very highly credentialed.  Depending on the field, some graduate degrees just aren't very rigorous, and some of the ones that are really select for persistence, grit, and introversion more than intellectual ability.  I'm thinking especially of PhDs, but a ton of master's degrees work the same way.

 
Captain Cranks said:
What exactly does being overeducated mean?

Is that the quiet part of the GOP platform coming through?
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The Chardonnay and cheese crowd in Manhattan...living life behind the ivy walls and not having any street smarts.

 
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Captain Cranks said:
What exactly does being overeducated mean?

Is that the quiet part of the GOP platform coming through?
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What exactly are you trying to achieve in this thread?

Matt Gaetz is a doosh. What he said reflects that.

Is incessantly harping on Gaetz's doosh-ness going to compensate for the threats against the SC justices?

 
IvanKaramazov said:
When I see people use this term, it usually means something in the general vicinity of "has educational credentials beyond what you might have predicted on the basis of his or her raw intelligence."  

In context, it's almost always an elliptical way of calling someone stupid, in a way very similar to how the term "midwit" works.  It's a real phenomenon though.  If you work in an occupation that requires educational credentials beyond the baccalaureate level, you almost certainly know some people of very average intelligence who are still very highly credentialed.  Depending on the field, some graduate degrees just aren't very rigorous, and some of the ones that are really select for persistence, grit, and introversion more than intellectual ability.  I'm thinking especially of PhDs, but a ton of master's degrees work the same way.
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Interesting. I read it as a thinly veiled dig at people with higher education as he speaks to his constituents who, on average, are lesser educated; especially as the GOP rails against higher education. You could be right though.

 
Stoneworker said:
What exactly are you trying to achieve in this thread?

Matt Gaetz is a doosh. What he said reflects that.

Is incessantly harping on Gaetz's doosh-ness going to compensate for the threats against the SC justices?
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I never see you respond this way in the multitude of 'Extreme Left' threads. Reflect on that a bit and you'll have your answer. 

 
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Overeducated can also mean having degrees in subjects that someone might not think is valuable — art history, English, women’s studies, etc.

 
Captain Cranks said:
If there's one person who should be throwing stones at dumb people accused of pedophilia, it's Matty Gaetz.
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:rolleyes:

I think the guy is a total tool, but last I checked he hasn't even been charged yet, much less convicted.  It's not hard to find actual ammunition against this guy without falsehoods turned to smears.

 
Sand said:
:rolleyes:

I think the guy is a total tool, but last I checked he hasn't even been charged yet, much less convicted.  It's not hard to find actual ammunition against this guy without falsehoods turned to smears.
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I did say accused, and there's far more smoke with MG than there is from MG about others.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
When I see people use this term, it usually means something in the general vicinity of "has educational credentials beyond what you might have predicted on the basis of his or her raw intelligence."  

In context, it's almost always an elliptical way of calling someone stupid, in a way very similar to how the term "midwit" works.  It's a real phenomenon though.  If you work in an occupation that requires educational credentials beyond the baccalaureate level, you almost certainly know some people of very average intelligence who are still very highly credentialed.  Depending on the field, some graduate degrees just aren't very rigorous, and some of the ones that are really select for persistence, grit, and introversion more than intellectual ability.  I'm thinking especially of PhDs, but a ton of master's degrees work the same way.
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You're right but Gaetz's isn't talking to people who think like you. IMO he's using education as a wedge to court less educated voters by painting anyone more educated than them as bad and, by inference, painting higher education as a bad thing.

 
So Kilmeade is wondering why pregnant women get jobs.

BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): Let's talk about this, something new that kind of got sprung on us last week. For the last few months, we have had a disinformation czar and a unit within the Homeland Security Department. And even Mayorkas said on Sunday, yeah, I probably could have rolled that out a little bit better. Then, we find out who is in charge of it, and this woman that's in charge of it, Nina Jankowicz, who's about eight-and-a-half-months pregnant, so I'm not sure how you get a job and then you just – you can't do a job for three months. I'm not faulting her, but I don't know why you would give someone a job that you think is so important.

 
Captain Cranks said:
What exactly does being overeducated mean?

Is that the quiet part of the GOP platform coming through?
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With the overeducated and "cat lady" reference I would assume he's referencing this. Highly educated women don't date down. So they're alone with cats. But who really knows. He's a lunatic.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/marriage-mismatch-husbands-wives-earnings-education-jobs.html&ved=2ahUKEwi5r5W-wMv3AhUMWs0KHaPDD2QQFnoECAYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3dcn7tBt2vE6shKODiUn_T

 
Amused to Death said:
So Kilmeade is wondering why pregnant women get jobs.

BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): Let's talk about this, something new that kind of got sprung on us last week. For the last few months, we have had a disinformation czar and a unit within the Homeland Security Department. And even Mayorkas said on Sunday, yeah, I probably could have rolled that out a little bit better. Then, we find out who is in charge of it, and this woman that's in charge of it, Nina Jankowicz, who's about eight-and-a-half-months pregnant, so I'm not sure how you get a job and then you just – you can't do a job for three months. I'm not faulting her, but I don't know why you would give someone a job that you think is so important.
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Kind of sounds like he is...like starting a sentence with "no offense..." and then insulting someone.

 
Osaurus said:
Amused to Death said:
So Kilmeade is wondering why pregnant women get jobs.

BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): Let's talk about this, something new that kind of got sprung on us last week. For the last few months, we have had a disinformation czar and a unit within the Homeland Security Department. And even Mayorkas said on Sunday, yeah, I probably could have rolled that out a little bit better. Then, we find out who is in charge of it, and this woman that's in charge of it, Nina Jankowicz, who's about eight-and-a-half-months pregnant, so I'm not sure how you get a job and then you just – you can't do a job for three months. I'm not faulting her, but I don't know why you would give someone a job that you think is so important.
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Kind of sounds like he is...like starting a sentence with "no offense..." and then insulting someone.
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A company I used to work for hired a new guy and within 2 months needed gall bladder surgery and was out a couple of months. I wonder if Kilmeade would have a problem with that. Or is it just women?

 
Joe Bryant said:
Your link is to Matt Goetz tweet saying ugly insults about people. Seems pretty awful.

But then you say, "Such a loving compassionate group of "Christians". What is the group you're talking about?
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You'll see what I'm referring to in the "values" link. I don't know how you'd define them. Christians Nationalists, MAGA Christians. Whatever they are, they seem to be Christian in name only; thus the quotes.

 
Captain Cranks said:
You'll see what I'm referring to in the "values" link. I don't know how you'd define them. Christians Nationalists, MAGA Christians. Whatever they are, they seem to be Christian in name only; thus the quotes.
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I don't see that. I see Goetz talking about his positions.

What is your point here? Matt Goetz is awful? I'm not sure you'll have much opposition.

Do you have a bigger point to criticize Christians? If so, can you be specific with your criticism? Thanks. 

Lastly, with the thread title, is this about Matt Goetz or is there a larger group you're including? Who exactly are they?

 
Joe Bryant said:
I don't see that. I see Goetz talking about his positions.

What is your point here? Matt Goetz is awful? I'm not sure you'll have much opposition.

Do you have a bigger point to criticize Christians? If so, can you be specific with your criticism? Thanks. 

Lastly, with the thread title, is this about Matt Goetz or is there a larger group you're including? Who exactly are they?
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I think all of these questions are absolutely pertinent. I wish you had asked them yesterday of @knowledge dropper when he started a thread attacking the left in the exact same manner (using anecdotes to make a much larger generalization.) It was, IMO, a garbage thread, just as this one is. But I wish they were treated with equal disdain. 

 
Captain Cranks said:
You'll see what I'm referring to in the "values" link. I don't know how you'd define them. Christians Nationalists, MAGA Christians. Whatever they are, they seem to be Christian in name only; thus the quotes.
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:confused:

It's a bunch of Q and A answered by Gaetz about himself.  OnTheIssues is a website that publishes individual political leaders stances.

It doesn't appear to be representing anybody but Gaetz.  Here is how you define them - Matt Gaetz.

 
timschochet said:
I think all of these questions are absolutely pertinent. I wish you had asked them yesterday of @knowledge dropper when he started a thread attacking the left in the exact same manner (using anecdotes to make a much larger generalization.) It was, IMO, a garbage thread, just as this one is. But I wish they were treated with equal disdain. 
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The Goetz insult tweet was awful. 

I'm not sure if you're looking for other types of disdain.

I'm trying to understand his point. 

 
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timschochet said:
I think all of these questions are absolutely pertinent. I wish you had asked them yesterday of @knowledge dropper when he started a thread attacking the left in the exact same manner (using anecdotes to make a much larger generalization.) It was, IMO, a garbage thread, just as this one is. But I wish they were treated with equal disdain. 
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"Extreme Left"

Extreme Left seems like a reasonable label for groups like RuthSentUs and any protester that would actually show up at justices home address or ones that cause violence.  That's the discussion going on in the other thread.  

Extreme Right seems like a reasonable label for Matt Gaetz.  The problem with this OP is that it assigns Matt Gaetz's positions to a large group of people who the OP called "Christians".  That makes zero sense and is probably insulting to, you know, regular non-Matt Gaetz like Christians.  

 
timschochet said:
I think all of these questions are absolutely pertinent. I wish you had asked them yesterday of @knowledge dropper when he started a thread attacking the left in the exact same manner (using anecdotes to make a much larger generalization.) It was, IMO, a garbage thread, just as this one is. But I wish they were treated with equal disdain. 
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It this thread is going to be like the other one, we need people to start saying they're fine with what Goetz said in his tweet.

 
Maybe I read this wrong, but it seemed like the OP was pointing out Gaetz's supposed and stated Christian values juxtaposed against his latest tweet disrespecting a large population of women?  :shrug:

 
JIslander said:
Maybe I read this wrong, but it seemed like the OP was pointing out Gaetz's supposed and stated Christian values juxtaposed against his latest tweet disrespecting a large population of women?  :shrug:
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My impression as well. One link where he disparages millions of women, then another showing what a great Christian he is. Perfect example of his Christian hypocrisy. 

 
JIslander said:
Maybe I read this wrong, but it seemed like the OP was pointing out Gaetz's supposed and stated Christian values juxtaposed against his latest tweet disrespecting a large population of women?  :shrug:
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Yup, except Tim is the over-educated one who accurately detected the larger purpose. We seem all too comfortable demonizing the other side and broadcasting extreme views and actions across a larger group of people. That is, until it's our group being targeting and now we have to set the record straight. "Hey, that guy doesn't represent us, but my gotcha example represents all of you," is effectively what's being said.

 
Amused to Death said:
My impression as well. One link where he disparages millions of women, then another showing what a great Christian he is. Perfect example of his Christian hypocrisy. 
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Who is the "group" he is referring to?  That's the confusion.

Such a loving compassionate group of "Christians".

I don't know how you'd define them. Christians Nationalists, MAGA Christians. Whatever they are, they seem to be Christian in name only
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There is already a Matt Gaetz thread if he just wanted to bag on him, maybe he missed it?  Find it hard to believe a single tweet from this guy deserves it's own thread.

 
timschochet said:
I think all of these questions are absolutely pertinent. I wish you had asked them yesterday of @knowledge dropper when he started a thread attacking the left in the exact same manner (using anecdotes to make a much larger generalization.) It was, IMO, a garbage thread, just as this one is. But I wish they were treated with equal disdain. 
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Terrible.  Large fencing has been erected in front of the Supreme Court to protect our judicial branch from unhinged leftists.  Their home addresses have been released to protesters.  Unfortunately, it’s all about mean tweets to some people.  This is a troll thread and the other is a hot button issue.  It’s that simple. 

 
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