*** ARI QB Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

too quick with the trigger, the time is be coming but not in week 4 IMO

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The chances of Leinart being good right out of the gate are very slim. I can't think of a QB other than Dan Marino that started his career as a stud. And Leinart is no Marino... Sorry Leinart lovers. He might be good in the relatively near future (try next year), but behind that terrible offensive line he is going to struggle.

Big Ben

Noticed he mentioned "bad offensive line" and the Steelers had a great defense in place. Completely different situation with Leinart. In Pittsburgh Rotherzburgler was in there to direct the attack and not give games away. He had a solid running game, a good line, and a defense that didn't give up too many points. Leinart has none of that and in Arizona the QB has to win games. I was wrong saying that the Cards would not pull the trigger on this so soon but I stand by my statement that he is not ready. I really can't believe a team that was talking playoffs thinks they can do it with a rookie. Long-term this is a great move so as always in Arizona, the future looks bright. For now another 5-11 season seems a lock.

I want to recant the second part of this because I'm not yet wrong since Warner will actually start. Good news for me.

 

[shakeybarn]

The chances of Leinart being good right out of the gate are very slim. I can't think of a QB other than Dan Marino that started his career as a stud. And Leinart is no Marino... Sorry Leinart lovers. He might be good in the relatively near future (try next year), but behind that terrible offensive line he is going to struggle.

Big Ben

Noticed he mentioned "bad offensive line" and the Steelers had a great defense in place. Completely different situation with Leinart. In Pittsburgh Rotherzburgler was in there to direct the attack and not give games away. He had a solid running game, a good line, and a defense that didn't give up too many points. Leinart has none of that and in Arizona the QB has to win games. I was wrong saying that the Cards would not pull the trigger on this so soon but I stand by my statement that he is not ready. I really can't believe a team that was talking playoffs thinks they can do it with a rookie. Long-term this is a great move so as always in Arizona, the future looks bright. For now another 5-11 season seems a lock.

I want to recant the second part of this because I'm not yet wrong since Warner will actually start. Good news for me.

So would you start him.... risk the "buy himself one more week good game" vs "lost all hope and he really is that bad"

 

[NoFBinLA]

Come on guys -- think about it -- what was the chance they put him in against a very po'd Atlanta D this week?

I think we'll be seeing Leinart before the end of the season though - and not due to injury. I don't think Green is happy with the Grocery Bagger.

PS -- loved this in the ESPN CYA article --

The plan this season was for Leinart to watch and learn from the sidelines, but Green is an impatient coach who has not hesitated to switch quarterbacks in his uphill fight to bring a winner to Arizona. Green praised Leinart's poise and performance in the preseason.

Translation: 'Just in case we're wrong again, we're hedging our bets and saying we told you so in advance. That Denny Green is CAAAARAAAAAZY and you can't tell what he's doing moment to moment!'

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The chances of Leinart being good right out of the gate are very slim. I can't think of a QB other than Dan Marino that started his career as a stud. And Leinart is no Marino... Sorry Leinart lovers. He might be good in the relatively near future (try next year), but behind that terrible offensive line he is going to struggle.

Big Ben

Noticed he mentioned "bad offensive line" and the Steelers had a great defense in place. Completely different situation with Leinart. In Pittsburgh Rotherzburgler was in there to direct the attack and not give games away. He had a solid running game, a good line, and a defense that didn't give up too many points. Leinart has none of that and in Arizona the QB has to win games. I was wrong saying that the Cards would not pull the trigger on this so soon but I stand by my statement that he is not ready. I really can't believe a team that was talking playoffs thinks they can do it with a rookie. Long-term this is a great move so as always in Arizona, the future looks bright. For now another 5-11 season seems a lock.

I want to recant the second part of this because I'm not yet wrong since Warner will actually start. Good news for me.

So would you start him.... risk the "buy himself one more week good game" vs "lost all hope and he really is that bad"

To me it's not that Warner has been awful, but that Leinart isn't ready to be good. I think you are throwing him to the lions instead of throwing him out vs the Detroit Lions. I think he should play this year but let him work his way up to it.