Arian Foster (1 Viewer)

[jadams209]

I realize Arian Foster is amazingly consistent and a great player, but the sheer number of carries he is accumulating is worrisome. Also he is hardly catching any passes which reduces his value in PPR leagues. Is he worth dealing for anyone in a year to year keeper league? Like Ray Rice, A Pete, Trent Rich, LeSean mccoy, or even a top Qb like Rodgers? Or should we treat him like a recently paid off car and drive him until the wheels come off? Btw he has a killer playoff schedule too! Else an McCoy is intriguing to me because if Andy Reid is out maybe the eagles will use him in more creative ways.

J.

 

[odds]

rest of season schedule for Foster:

@chicago

jacksonville

@detroit

@tennesse

playoffs:

@new england

indianapolis

minnesota

@indianapolis

I'm going to hang onto Foster for that tasty playoff schedule (They are probably going to rest their starters in that last couple games so I need to go get Ben Tate asap) Don't really know if I can get anything to match Foster's value.

 

[donkshow]

rest of season schedule for Fosterchicagojacksonville@detroit@tennesseplayoffsnew englandindianapolisminnesota@indianapolisI'm going to hang onto Foster for that tasty playoff schedule (They are probably going to rest their starters in that last couple games so I need to go get Ben Tate asap) Don't really know if I can get anything to match Foster's value.

Tate is hurt.I wouldn't even consider selling Foster. He's the best, most consistent non-QB in fantasy.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

I have been offered A Rogers and J Nelson for A Foster and B Marshall but dont see the value there

Am considering Foster for Rogers straight up

What is everyone else being offered/willing to take?

 

[death of the cool]

I am hanging on to him for two reasons:

#1- The rest of his schedule sets up nicely for a huge run.

#2-I own Ben Tate as the handcuff.

Yes...I know Ben Tate is hurt right now, but he is not far from playing, and at some point the Texans may clinch and sit Foster. Having Tate is a huge must for Foster owners. It negates the Foster injury risk and the risk of Foster sitting out during your playoff games.

If you don't own Ben Tate, it would be wise of you to deal for him while he is hurt....and before the other owner realizes that he could be setting on a gold mine in the playoffs.

 

[death of the cool]

I have been offered A Rogers and J Nelson for A Foster and B Marshall but dont see the value thereAm considering Foster for Rogers straight upWhat is everyone else being offered/willing to take?

Yeah I wouldn't do that deal. Marshall has been a beast and Nelson has been a disappointment.

 

[-jb-]

I have offered Doug Martin + Julio Jones for Foster.

:crickets:

 

[Gottabesweet]

I turned down AJ Green, and Jimmy Graham for Foster, Hernandez and Desean Jackson.

I have Ray Rice at RB as well (12 team, I trade alot) I didn't want to give up Foster and use Stewart as my RB2

It was an upgrade at TE and Flex though...

My 2 Wr's are Julio and Marshall and my flex would then be AJ Green..

 

[Insein]

I don't see the reason to trade him. He is the model #1 overall pick. He gives you 100yds and/or a TD EVERY WEEK! You can't get that kind of production and consistency from anyone. Would have to be overwhelmed to trade him. Like Rodgers and Lynch kind of overwhelmed.

 

[BearDown54]

I don't see the reason to trade him. He is the model #1 overall pick. He gives you 100yds and/or a TD EVERY WEEK! You can't get that kind of production and consistency from anyone. Would have to be overwhelmed to trade him. Like Rodgers and Lynch kind of overwhelmed.

+1

 

[Kenny Powers]

I have offered Doug Martin + Julio Jones for Foster.:crickets:

If I owned Foster, I would definitely take that, even moreso if Im weak at WR

 

[Chazzhawk]

In redraft I wouldn't trade him for anyone. In dynasty I would sell him ASAP. The touches concern me and he will be 27 next year which means another 2 years of production and with the amount of touches he has had in the last 3 years I would be concerned about the production.

 

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Fun question....

Anyone have the balls to Bench him vs Chicago this week?!



I have Martin / Foster / Jennings in PPR and can start two.... It's Martin for sure and I'm not 100pct sure the second RB won't be Jennings....

 

[donkshow]

I don't see the reason to trade him. He is the model #1 overall pick. He gives you 100yds and/or a TD EVERY WEEK! You can't get that kind of production and consistency from anyone. Would have to be overwhelmed to trade him. Like Rodgers and Lynch kind of overwhelmed.

IMO this is a classic case of over-thinking yourself into a bad move.

 

[donkshow]

Fun question.... Anyone have the balls to Bench him vs Chicago this week?! I have Martin / Foster / Jennings in PPR and can start two.... It's Martin for sure and I'm not 100pct sure the second RB won't be Jennings....

I have:Johnson, Foster, McGahee, JenningsI'm benching Johnson. Foster has the worst match-up, but I could never bench him. Ever.

 

[mr roboto]

I'm married to a supermodel who is a gormet cook, excellent in bed, hates spending money on herself and trusts me completely, while being a perfect mother to our kids.

Any advice?

 

[Insein]

I'm married to a supermodel who is a gormet cook, excellent in bed, hates spending money on herself and trusts me completely, while being a perfect mother to our kids. Any advice?

Pretty apt comparison.

 

[Shutout]

In redraft I wouldn't trade him for anyone. In dynasty I would sell him ASAP. The touches concern me and he will be 27 next year which means another 2 years of production and with the amount of touches he has had in the last 3 years I would be concerned about the production.

You're overthinking it.Being 27 next year means he is 26 right now. So, basically, you're saying in a dynasty, you're wanting to sell a 26 year old RB ASAP (panic, panic)? A RB who has been the definition of RB1 and is in the sweet spot of his career on one of the very few teams in the league that actually wants to A) Run the ball a lot, B)wants to use 1 primary RB, and C)is in a division where they will likely have about 5 games a year where they should be running the snot out of the ball.

You can't argue the "too many touches" issue because that varies from player to player and year to year. I don't see anyone panicked into dumping ADP because he has touched the ball a lot.

You can't argue the age issue because there is NOTHING to indicate anything different about Foster that suggest he won't be a very good player for 3-5 more years. That is an ETERNITY for a RB if you have one of the great ones. Believe me, being on the other side of the fence for years while guys had LT and Faulk, etc, its real easy to see the inherent advantage other teams have when they have a bonafide rock in dynasty at the RB position and you don't.

The ways things are going, the Texans are going to be in a window for a championship for now and a few more seasons. Their RBs are producing and under contract so I don't see the Texans going out to mix that up (I.E., this is going to stay the same). I really think Foster would be one of the hardest players for an owner to deal away under any conditions short of someone just tossing a kitchen sink deal at them in dynasty. even if that team was a bad one, why trade a young Foster? Most rebuilding teams want to go out and get a young stud RB when they rebuild. Ok...you've got one. Would you not be just as happy with foster over the next 3-4 as you would TRICH or Martin (or worse yet, since you DON'T know how players will pan out, a guy you would have taken 1st overall in recent years (Ingram, Beanie, Moreno, etc)?

I think this thread is one you read for entertainment and don't get too serious about.

 

[Banger]

unless you're REALLY hurting in several other areas on your roster you don't trade a stud like Foster. Ya, he's getting a ton of touches...GREAT...that's exactly what I want from my RB, that's how you score a ton of points. In a season with very few solid RBs you ride him as far as he takes you.

 

[RUSF18]

Well, I am in a tough spot, needing to win out to make the playoffs which is somewhat feasible due to some bad luck encountered. I have Foster but need to throw him back into the pool next season after I drafted him in the 14th round prior to his breakout year (we have a max 3 year keeper rule). So I have one eye on upgrading my team around him, but also looking to prepare for next year.

I've tried swapping him for both Rice and McCoy (who both can be kept) with no luck. The Richardson owner is out of contention so he's not an option. I'm considering Peterson at this point, as he doesn't seem to be slowing down very much, and his owner would appreciate the upgrade on a one-for-one basis. Top targets at other positions (Rodgers, Calvin) can't be kept either.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Fun question.... Anyone have the balls to Bench him vs Chicago this week?! I have Martin / Foster / Jennings in PPR and can start two.... It's Martin for sure and I'm not 100pct sure the second RB won't be Jennings....

The Bears for all of their turnovers are a pretty pedestrian defense vs the rush. Right now they are ranked 22 giving up 4.3 yards per carry. Unless you're expecting a blowout and fewer attempts for Foster, you can't possibly sit him here.

 

[Chazzhawk]

I'm married to a supermodel who is a gormet cook, excellent in bed, hates spending money on herself and trusts me completely, while being a perfect mother to our kids. Any advice?

You don't deserve that burden, let me have her and it is about time someone else carried that burden for you. By the way I didn't know Tom Brady was regular poster in The Shark Pool

 

[Chazzhawk]

In redraft I wouldn't trade him for anyone. In dynasty I would sell him ASAP. The touches concern me and he will be 27 next year which means another 2 years of production and with the amount of touches he has had in the last 3 years I would be concerned about the production.

You're overthinking it.Being 27 next year means he is 26 right now. So, basically, you're saying in a dynasty, you're wanting to sell a 26 year old RB ASAP (panic, panic)? A RB who has been the definition of RB1 and is in the sweet spot of his career on one of the very few teams in the league that actually wants to A) Run the ball a lot, B)wants to use 1 primary RB, and C)is in a division where they will likely have about 5 games a year where they should be running the snot out of the ball.

You can't argue the "too many touches" issue because that varies from player to player and year to year. I don't see anyone panicked into dumping ADP because he has touched the ball a lot.

You can't argue the age issue because there is NOTHING to indicate anything different about Foster that suggest he won't be a very good player for 3-5 more years. That is an ETERNITY for a RB if you have one of the great ones. Believe me, being on the other side of the fence for years while guys had LT and Faulk, etc, its real easy to see the inherent advantage other teams have when they have a bonafide rock in dynasty at the RB position and you don't.

The ways things are going, the Texans are going to be in a window for a championship for now and a few more seasons. Their RBs are producing and under contract so I don't see the Texans going out to mix that up (I.E., this is going to stay the same). I really think Foster would be one of the hardest players for an owner to deal away under any conditions short of someone just tossing a kitchen sink deal at them in dynasty. even if that team was a bad one, why trade a young Foster? Most rebuilding teams want to go out and get a young stud RB when they rebuild. Ok...you've got one. Would you not be just as happy with foster over the next 3-4 as you would TRICH or Martin (or worse yet, since you DON'T know how players will pan out, a guy you would have taken 1st overall in recent years (Ingram, Beanie, Moreno, etc)?

I think this thread is one you read for entertainment and don't get too serious about.

When I say ASAP I mean at the end of the year if I am in contention, if I am out of contention I am selling ASAP. If I had Adrian Peterson I would sell ASAP too under the same conditions.Actually there is a lot of evidence that he won't be good for 3 - 5 years, like pretty much every running back of all time that hits 30 (yes there are a few exceptions but I will play the numbers)

I would take T. Rich or Martin and either a pick or another young player with promise (Josh Gordon, Ryan Broyles) for Foster right now if I was 3 - 6 in a dynasty league and my team was aging.

 

[pantagrapher]

Had him since 2009 and finally traded him last week. Auction dynasty $200 draft cap. Keeper pricetag goes up yearly based on league formula. Here's the deal:

I get:

Trent Richardson $25

Drew Brees $60

Vincent Jackson $21

I give:

Arian Foster $18

Cecil Shorts $1

Tony Romo $17

He's obviously playing for next year, I'm playing for this year. I love Foster's schedule down the stretch, but I needed a QB and a WR (on the QB side, Vick & Romo just weren't going to get it done and on the WR side Nicks had been killing me).

 

[Shutout]

In redraft I wouldn't trade him for anyone. In dynasty I would sell him ASAP. The touches concern me and he will be 27 next year which means another 2 years of production and with the amount of touches he has had in the last 3 years I would be concerned about the production.

You're overthinking it.Being 27 next year means he is 26 right now. So, basically, you're saying in a dynasty, you're wanting to sell a 26 year old RB ASAP (panic, panic)? A RB who has been the definition of RB1 and is in the sweet spot of his career on one of the very few teams in the league that actually wants to A) Run the ball a lot, B)wants to use 1 primary RB, and C)is in a division where they will likely have about 5 games a year where they should be running the snot out of the ball.

You can't argue the "too many touches" issue because that varies from player to player and year to year. I don't see anyone panicked into dumping ADP because he has touched the ball a lot.

You can't argue the age issue because there is NOTHING to indicate anything different about Foster that suggest he won't be a very good player for 3-5 more years. That is an ETERNITY for a RB if you have one of the great ones. Believe me, being on the other side of the fence for years while guys had LT and Faulk, etc, its real easy to see the inherent advantage other teams have when they have a bonafide rock in dynasty at the RB position and you don't.

The ways things are going, the Texans are going to be in a window for a championship for now and a few more seasons. Their RBs are producing and under contract so I don't see the Texans going out to mix that up (I.E., this is going to stay the same). I really think Foster would be one of the hardest players for an owner to deal away under any conditions short of someone just tossing a kitchen sink deal at them in dynasty. even if that team was a bad one, why trade a young Foster? Most rebuilding teams want to go out and get a young stud RB when they rebuild. Ok...you've got one. Would you not be just as happy with foster over the next 3-4 as you would TRICH or Martin (or worse yet, since you DON'T know how players will pan out, a guy you would have taken 1st overall in recent years (Ingram, Beanie, Moreno, etc)?

I think this thread is one you read for entertainment and don't get too serious about.

When I say ASAP I mean at the end of the year if I am in contention, if I am out of contention I am selling ASAP. If I had Adrian Peterson I would sell ASAP too under the same conditions.Actually there is a lot of evidence that he won't be good for 3 - 5 years, like pretty much every running back of all time that hits 30 (yes there are a few exceptions but I will play the numbers)

I would take T. Rich or Martin and either a pick or another young player with promise (Josh Gordon, Ryan Broyles) for Foster right now if I was 3 - 6 in a dynasty league and my team was aging.

Of course all this is speculation on both sides (don't know about you, but I do not own a crystal ball), but when you say there is evidence to say this won't happen, you have to be really careful there. Yes, if you look at every RB in the world and look at ages, I'm sure you can build a case to avoid them once they hit 30 but the real question is what are you doing with your dynasty team in the meantime?in other words, what are you doing for the next three-five years? Foster, to date, has shown us that he is every bit as much on the same type of career path as the great ones; not the masses and masses of RBs who fizzle out, but the GREAT ones. And the great ones tend to do very well later. Maybe not 1800/16TD good, but usually 1200-1400/10-12 TD good and that, in today's fantasy is still extremelt valauable.

It would be easy to say let's compare him to Dickerson and LT and Emmitt and point out how those guys were having epic years in the 28-30 age range but I know some people will say "Let's not compare Foster to HOF'ers already". Ok, we will ignore the fact that foster IS performing at a level worthy of that discussion and we will toss him in the mix with guys like Eddie George, Tiki Barber, and Jamal Lewis; guys we can say were very good, but maybe not the first name that rings up when you think of all-time greats. These were all backs that showed what foster is showing, a tendency to come out and be the focus of their team's ground game and they all did VERY well in that 27-30 or so range.

Keep in mind that Foster just turned 26 in late September. So he will be playing his 27-30 years in 2013-2016.

So, without arguing the urgency and opinions of it, I guess my point goes back to, when you look at his production and situaiton, and take into account how long 3-4 years is for a RB, and you have really no reason to think its going to change (really, has he shown us ANYTHING to suggest he was a flash in a pan, is slowing down, is a knuckle-head, etc?), seriosuly, why would you trade him or think you need to? I think there is far more evidence to suggest that Foater owners should just sit abck and enjoy it.

 

[massraider]

It gets worse. I have it on good authority that he'll be 28 years old in two years.

 

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It gets worse. I have it on good authority that he'll be 28 years old in two years.

I just packaged him with Reggie Wayne for Trent Richardson cuz those dudes are OLD.