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This is from AUgust 4th, link below-

Quick, someone check on Tater... I'm afraid he may have passed out!

What a difference a year makes, well, not even a year... just six months. I thought we'd see a new, re-energized Armanti Edwards, ready to prove his doubters wrong. However, thus far I never imagined he'd have the kind of improvement we've seen from him. It isn't just the big things like receiving and route running he's doing right, it's the little things too like his hand placement, block shedding, and foot placement; the transformation is truly amazing.

Today via Twitter Joseph Person said that it's more than fans who are being impressed with this wholesale improvement, but the coaches are noticing too.

Joe Person

Rivera says Edwards is in the mix for the No. 2 rcvr spot w/ LaFell and Gettis, who is still out w/ hamstring injury.

This opens up a lot of very interesting schematic plays should Edwards win the job. Not only does it conceivably give you three people who can throw the football (along with the QB and DeAngelo Williams who has been practicing in camp), but it also allows for Smith and Edwards to run the quick slants and cuts while Greg Olsen can stretch the field vertically. When you combine this with the running game and Cam Newton's versatility it could spell nightmares for defenses.For now though we have to give all the credit in the world to Armanti Edwards for stepping up, working hard, and making a good deal of fans eat some crow.

http://www.catscratchreader.com/2011/8/4/2344352/rivera-armanti-edwards-in-the-mix-for-2-wr

AP-August 10th

SPARTANBURG, S.C. (AP) — The last thing Armanti Edwards was worried about as a rookie was throwing passes for the Carolina Panthers. His sole focus, he was told last season, was learning to play wide receiver and return punts, no easy task considering he played quarterback at Appalachian State.

Now that's changed to some degree.

"It's ironic, now I have to get used to playing quarterback again," Edwards said.

He isn't competing for a starting quarterback spot with Cam Newton or Jimmy Clausen, but based on what the team has done in practice offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski plans to use him occasionally in the Wildcat formation — with Newton split out wide.

Although the Panthers are installing an entirely new offensive scheme and are pressed for time in this NFL lockout-shortened offseason, they devoted more than 30 minutes of practice Tuesday morning to Edwards taking snaps out of the shotgun, which goes to show how serious they are about using him.

He ran. He handed off. And, of course, he threw the ball.

There was some good and some bad. He showed great quickness and completed a 65-yard touchdown pass to David Clowney that got a rise out of his teammates. He also under threw a wide open Steve Smith on another deep route and intercepted.

"I'm a little rusty," Edwards admitted with a laugh.

Still, his comfort level in the pocket was reminiscent of what Edwards did at Appalachian State, where he was the only two-time winner of the Walter Payton Award given to the nation's NCAA FCS Player of the Year.

"The one thing you don't want to do is line up where everybody knows where you're going," Panthers coach Ron Rivera said. "You don't want to always be throwing it to the same guy or handing it to the same guy. You also want to create different looks and stress your opponent a little bit."

Rivera said he likes Edwards' elusiveness, his athletic ability and his arm strength.

But more than anything he likes the element of surprise.

"If you can put some doubt in people's mind as to what he's going to do, it's going to help you offensively," Rivera said. "Armanti can be a kind of guy that when he comes on the field it's not always in a Wildcat situation.

"Now you don't know how to prepare for it. One minute the quarterback is under center with Armanti (at receiver) and the next minute Armanti is there and it's, 'Hey is he going to run it or throw it?' It can add to what we do offensively."

Rivera should know.

As a former defensive coordinator Rivera was forced to prepare for similar offenses in the past.

When asked how much time it takes for a coordinator to prepare for such nuances, Rivera said, "Too much. It really does. For a team to only go one or two or three times (a game) it's a huge distraction."

Edwards said the Panthers have already installed five different plays specifically designed for him with more to come.

"It's very exciting to see they have a lot of plays they want to put in down the road depending on what team we play," Edwards said. "This offense is going to be very exciting this year."

The Panthers experimented with Edwards in the shotgun some last year, but only ran two plays all season. He was never a big favorite of former coach John Fox, who had a reputation for playing veteran players over rookies.

Edwards is currently fifth on the depth chart at wide receiver and second at punt returner.

He's not listed at quarterback.

But he'll be out there from time to time, that's for sure.

"We had been talking about this before the lockout and after the lockout," Edwards said. "I knew it was coming. I just didn't know we were going to install some already during camp ... They said once we get good at this we'll do even more."

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August 24th

Edwards already making a difference

A year ago, Armanti Edwards had a dreadful debut as a punt returner in Bank of America Stadium.

It was a different scene Saturday night.

Edwards averaged 23 yards on two punt returns against the New York Giants, offering a glimpse of why coach Ron Rivera believes he can be a difference-maker for the Panthers.

"I was one defender away on two punts from going the distance," Edwards said.

During the offseason, Edwards worked extensively with former Panthers receiver Muhsin Muhammad and former NFL punt returner Gari Scott, refining both skills. Instead of fumbling punts as he did in the exhibition opener last year, Edwards attacked the returns.

"I had a hard time judging the ball last year," Edwards said. "This summer, I tried to focus on catching the ball. Once you catch, it's back to football and what everybody does with the ball - just run with it."

Edwards also caught one pass for 36 yards but dropped one when a Giants defender stripped it from him.

"I've got to catch the balls I get my hands on," Edwards said.

Rivera liked what he saw from the former Appalachian State All-American.

"He gave us some energy," Rivera said. "With his elusiveness and his vision, if we block and do the things we're supposed to do as a special teams unit, the young man's going to do that for us. It's going to fall on us as a special teams unit to give him opportunities."

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/14/2527731/armanti-edwards-already-making.html#ixzz1W0If9EQF

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Armanti Edwards has been enjoying a new lease on life during his second season with Carolina and Saturday's preseason opener even made a favorable impression on one of his toughest critics.

That would be himself, as the former Greenwood and Appalachian State standout quarterback liked what he saw on film after a pair of scintillating punt returns in a 20-10 victory against the Giants.

“After trying to (return punts) for the first time last year to where I was in that first game, I was a little impressed,” said Edwards, adding he didn't feel even a smidgen of redemption in being able to show people his topflight athleticism.

“I'm not out to prove anybody wrong,” he said. “You're going to have your critics and your fans that are behind you.”

Edwards had first-quarter punt returns of 22 and 24 yards that both showcased elusiveness, and later caught a 36-yard pass from Cam Newton to set up a late second-quarter field goal for a 13-10 lead. A bit of his former self returned as well, however, as Edwards couldn't haul in a perfect strike from Newton.

But the positive Edwards bandwagon has surely increased attendance this summer and quite frankly it doesn't matter what the fans think of his ongoing conversion to receiver and return man after his stellar former life as an outstanding dual-threat quarterback.

The speedy 5-foot-11, 182-pounder has the new coaching staff in his corner after never making a believer out of former head coach John Fox despite the team trading up to draft Edwards 89th overall in the third round prior to last season.

The now 23-year-old only saw action in two games and totaled just 7 yards on one rush and two punt returns.

“Last year was one of the low points in my football career,” Edwards said. “You're going to come across that at some point in time and I came across it last year and had to learn how to deal with it. I'm kind of quiet and kept to myself, didn't blame anybody but myself and dealt with it that way.

“It means a lot to put that first year behind me and it's done and over with. Now I know what to expect coming into this year and I tried to work extra hard this offseason.”

Edwards received tutoring on the receiving end from former Panther great Muhsin Muhammad and would also call up current punter Jeff Baker to meet and catch ball after ball off the veteran's foot. Edwards has shown increased knowledge of the nuances of route-running in addition to all the reps simply catching punts, something he'd never done.

“Armanti has done a great job,” Carolina head coach Ron Rivera said. “The hard thing about this year is not having OTA's and mini-camp, but apparently whatever Armanti has done in this offseason in terms of his commitment is most certainly starting to show off.

“The one thing you do see from the time I had an opportunity to meet him before the work stoppage to now, he's transformed himself. Kudos to him. He spent a lot of time with his teammates, developing that bond, and then he developed himself individually. You can see the difference.”

Edwards said the biggest thing he witnessed in Muhammad wasn't any inside info or tricks of the trade veterans can pass down, but simply how hard the retired Panther worked even now during drills.

“I definitely saw what a hard worker he was and how everything he did we were going at it real hard and I picked up on that,” Edwards said. “I've also been working on trying a few of his techniques to see how they work out. I'm very confident and getting used to running routes and seeing the ball quicker now and it's made things easier.”

He's also become much more natural fielding punts and dismissed any previous fear factor in trying to catch a sky-high ball among the sun or lights with a full stadium roaring and anticipating.

“If you trust the other 10 guys that are blocking, it's not frightening at all,” Edwards said. “Last year I didn't trust myself really. It wasn't the guys that were blocking. I'm progressing and just have to get more practice at it.”

One place where Edwards doesn't need as much practice time is at quarterback, where Rivera has tinkered with Edwards taking snaps where his varied skills are something that could add more twists to an already new attack.

“His elusiveness, his athletic ability and his ability to throw the ball,” Rivera said. “If you can put some doubt in people's mind as to what he's going to do, it's going to help you offensively. Also, Armanti can become a guy that when he comes onto the field it's not always in a Wildcat situation. Now you don't know how to prepare for him.

“One minute the quarterback is under center with Armanti as a wide receiver and the next thing you know Armanti is there. Is he going to run or throw it? It can add to what we want to do offensively.”

Edwards is just as excited about the possibility of an expanded role and the chance for the first player in NCAA Division-I history to top 10,000 passing yards and 4,000 rushing yards over his career to get a chance under center brings a smile to his face.

“I don't know, we're not that far yet,” Edwards replied when asked if he believed he'd get a chance to throw some passes. “I just want to get better at receiver and punt returner and want to get out on the field starting, but that's down the line. I just want to get out there and help anyway I can.”

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20110815/ARTICLES/110819786/1027/OPINION?p=3&tc=pg

 
I actually think he has some potential. Everyone completely wrote him off after last year, but he is a major project, and could preduce in a year or 2.

 
I actually think he has some potential. Everyone completely wrote him off after last year, but he is a major project, and could preduce in a year or 2.
If his 40 time is sub 4.5 i give him a shot but if he is just more quick than fast, would have a hard time seeing him being fantasy worthy. Sort of like the little guy in BUFF who cannot get over the top because he's too short.
 
I actually think he has some potential. Everyone completely wrote him off after last year, but he is a major project, and could preduce in a year or 2.
If his 40 time is sub 4.5 i give him a shot but if he is just more quick than fast, would have a hard time seeing him being fantasy worthy. Sort of like the little guy in BUFF who cannot get over the top because he's too short.
He was timed a zillion times as everyone wanted to LOOK at the two time Payton award winner that beat Michigan. Looking and drafting are two different things, but yeah 4.4? is as accurate as it gets.4.42, 4.43, 4.45 pretty regularly around those timesProbably a 4.55 and a 4.39 mixed in, but definitely just inaccurate.
 
:yawn: another preseason story hyping some scrub. Funny how quickly they go from "contending for a starting role" to "practice squad fodder".
 
virtually the same article at news observer and the herald

SPARTANBURG, S.C. -- For much of the second half of Tuesday's practice, Panthers receiver Armanti Edwards was in the shotgun formation behind center, rookie quarterback Cam Newton was lined up at receiver and Ron Rivera was taking it all in.

Read more: http://www.newsobser...l#ixzz1W0eufSQp

 
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:yawn: another preseason story hyping some scrub. Funny how quickly they go from "contending for a starting role" to "practice squad fodder".
One story would be that, many stories raises eyebrows IMO.Especially when it's a guy that was as unbelievably impressive as Armanti in college.

Here's a youtube video from August at camp

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

ETA because it's just so unbelievable. Semifinal stats for one game, one of the best in college football history at any level:

31 carries for 313 yards rushing and 4 TDs

14 of 16 passing for 186 yards and 3 more TDs for a total of seven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_OrrvlCNDo

 
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Did anyone read the post/article? The Armanti hype is for punt returning and wildcat QBing. Judging from his play in camp and preseason that hype is warranted. The mention of him competing for the WR2 is largely because the WR2 situation in Carolina is yuck.

coaches hype =/= fantasy WR hype

 
not sure why people are so quick to write this guy off- must be Lafell owners. I think the real future for Carolina at WR could be him and Pilares. Just a matter of when not if...

 
:yawn: another preseason story hyping some scrub. Funny how quickly they go from "contending for a starting role" to "practice squad fodder".
One story would be that, many stories raises eyebrows IMO.
Nah. It just means that Edwards has a good agent. The guy is desperately trying to make it in the NFL and he's having his PR people pull out all the stops.
So beat reporters now check with agents on who they should write about? I never knew that...
 
I thought Naanee was running as the #2 with Gettis on IR??

Not saying Edwards isn't worth a watch, but Naanee was decently productive, though inconsistent, with the Chargers.

 
I have seen the preseason games and he looks way better than when he came in last season. He finally looks like a receiver out there but he has a ways to go. He will have the opportunity to play since Carolina has only 3-4 receivers that are capable of starting.

 
I thought Naanee was running as the #2 with Gettis on IR??Not saying Edwards isn't worth a watch, but Naanee was decently productive, though inconsistent, with the Chargers.
63 746 3 in 4 years is 'decently productive'? Best season was under 25 catchesI think his only advantage is that he knows the offense.
 
:yawn: another preseason story hyping some scrub. Funny how quickly they go from "contending for a starting role" to "practice squad fodder".
One story would be that, many stories raises eyebrows IMO.
Nah. It just means that Edwards has a good agent. The guy is desperately trying to make it in the NFL and he's having his PR people pull out all the stops.
So beat reporters now check with agents on who they should write about? I never knew that...
i was confused by that comment as well, who would be paying a publicist on a 3rd round rookie contract? They don't have the money to do that...
 
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I saw him many times in FCS games. He was like a human joystick. Granted, it's not FBS ball but there are plenty of pros coming from FCS schools and several teams have beaten the big boys. I think he's got all the agility and speed, just needs to learn the game. 2012 would seem promising.

 
I thought Naanee was running as the #2 with Gettis on IR??Not saying Edwards isn't worth a watch, but Naanee was decently productive, though inconsistent, with the Chargers.
63 746 3 in 4 years is 'decently productive'? Best season was under 25 catchesI think his only advantage is that he knows the offense.
Well I should be specific. Last year was 'decently productive'.Last season was the first year he routinely played more than 40% of snaps on a consistent basis. In '09, there was 1 game where he played more than 40% of the snaps. Looking closer at his numbers from '10 and taking them in a bit of context, he was actually 'decent'. As a starter in '10 for 7 games, he put up 19 catches for 312 yards. If you prorate that over a 16 game season, that'd put him at ~40 catches for ~700 yards. He was injured week 5 and missed a 6 week chunk of time. If you look at it little differently and consider that last year was the first season with consistent snaps (most over 70%), in 9 games he put up 23 catches for 371 yards which prorates over a 16 game season to 41 catches for 660 yards. That's about on par with Jordy Nelson/James Jones and Naanee's not even rostered in many leagues. Given that last year was his first with meaningful playing time I think people are discounting his presence in Carolina a bit too quickly. Did it take him a long time to get going and get consistent snaps? Absolutely, but in the time he played last year the numbers are relatively decent. Given that he knows the playbook, is seeing time as the #2 WR with LaFell out, and, was 'decently productive' last year, he's being dismissed by many and ignored a little too quickly in favor of Edwards. Edwards is being scooped up in every one of my dynasty leagues based on this thread, but I think people need to step back a little with Naanee there.
 
Last season, John Fox wanted no part of Armanti. He was a project and Fox had no interest in using a project or working to get anything set up for him. He was basically a wasted roster spot. Armanti has had a number of plays specifically drawn up for him this season, both as a receiver and from the wildcat spot. From everything I've read, the difference between his preseason performance last year (from camp to the games) is amazing. From the first day of camp, I've read nothing but positive things about his improvement, probably more so than anyone else on the team.

I'm not saying that he's going to be huge from a fantasy perspective this season, but I definitely see him playing a big part in the return game (where he looks 100% better this preseason than he did last season), along with a decent chunk of playing time on the offense.

 
I saw him many times in FCS games. He was like a human joystick. Granted, it's not FBS ball but there are plenty of pros coming from FCS schools and several teams have beaten the big boys. I think he's got all the agility and speed, just needs to learn the game. 2012 would seem promising.
Specifically, one of those "several teams" was Armanti and his Appalachian State teammates going into Michigan and beating them in the Big House back when Michigan was still ranked in the Top 25. Guy was a world beater in FCS - we'll see if that translates into this level.
 
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- If Thursday's Pittsburgh Steelers-Carolina Panthers game was a memorable one for Armanti Edwards, it will be for all the wrong reasons.Edwards, a former star quarterback at Appalachian State, is trying to establish himself with the Panthers as a receiver and punt returner. As a rookie last season, he wasn't given much of a chance by former coach John Fox's staff.He got plenty of chances Thursday in a 33-17 loss against the Steelers at Bank of America Stadium. And he didn't make the most of them.Edwards was targeted eight times by Panthers quarterbacks Cam Newton and Derek Anderson. He had three catches for 29 yards. Edwards also returned a punt for 8 yards.But what was most noticeable were the four passes Edwards dropped.The first two were drive killers.On the final play of the first quarter, the Panthers went for it on a fourth-and-three from the Steelers 35. Anderson found Edwards on what would have been a first-down completion, but he dropped it.On Carolina's next possession, the Panthers had a third-and-10. Again, Anderson threw to Edwards, who had enough yardage for a first down. Again, Edwards couldn't bring it in.Edwards had two more drops before the game was over. To add insult, he was the intended receiver in the third quarter on a long pass from Jimmy Clausen, who had just entered the game. The pass was picked off by Will Allen.
 
Edwards has definitely improved since last season. Fox and his coaching staff simply had no desire to use him and it showed. Edwards dropped a few passes in the final preseason outing, but he got some valuable reps as well. I will be intrigued to see how he is used in Chud's offense.

 
I saw the highlights and he looked horrible. He muffed everything he touched.

He needs the coach to truly believe everything he said previously and give him another chance.

People have bad weeks. Players down on the depth chart are not often afforded a chance to have a second bad week though.

I think he will.

I think if he does well in week 1 or 2, it will be thought of as an aberration.

I don't get the impression that Armanti is anything more than a nice novelty to have right now. If in week 1 he was to catch a screen and break it for a 40 yard run, that might be enough for their coach for like six or seven weeks. He wants the threat of Armanti more than anything and he'd have established that. For Armanti to become more than a novelty, he has to become reliable. That's going to take some time and opportunity.

 
getting harder to hold a spot for this guy. did he play any offense this weekend? Is he behind Steve Smith rather than competing with LaFell/Naane? Where does Ajirotutu slot in? When Pilares comes back will he be worthy of looks (obviously they didn't place him on IR because they have something planned for him)?

 

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