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Nothing to do with holding NC and America to a higher standard but everything to do with the corporations and people that will not do business in NC because they don't like this law but will not hold steadfast in their beliefs and refuse their business anywhere such laws exist. Nothing but look at me self righteous hypocrisy.
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If Cirque du Soleil can change the hearts and minds of middle easterners by showing what it's like to treat LGBT people as equals, then isn't it better than simply boycotting?
I am proposing in Colorado we have gender check stations in each public bathroom, but the Men's Restroom will only be staffed by hot, female models who must verify "first hand" that I am indeed a guy before using said bathroom.
)Will they promise not to laugh?I am proposing in Colorado we have gender check stations in each public bathroom, but the Men's Restroom will only be staffed by hot, female models who must verify "first hand" that I am indeed a guy before using said bathroom.
Oh heck, I am an equal opportunist. The Woman's Restroom must also be staffed by hot, female models who must verify "first hand" the females are indeed females before using the bathroom.
(looking forward to stories from my wife after each of her shopping experiences
You know what sucks about this whole thing is the way Charlotte is getting lumped into this whole thing. This whole bill was in response to Charlotte creating a local ordinance to ban discrimination against LGBT people. So, Paypal says it isn't going to move to Charlotte because the idiots in Raleigh basically did something in one day to overrule Charlotte's ordinance. Maybe if the artists/businesses supported Charlotte and boycotted the rest that would be nice.
OK, but since they are US companies, shouldn't they be held to a higher standard as well? I guess they just don't care unless there is a big social media movement behind it. It is hypocritical to say nothing against third world nations, although one might wonder if there is an Atlantis hotel there, maybe Dubai isn't really a third world city anymore. I guess they have a lot of green so their money is good.
There are two key differences. First, when an artist performs in middle eastern countries, they are MUCH more likely to be performing directly for the ruling elite (i.e., people who actually have the power to make changes). By not boycotting, you are actually able to confront the opposition in such a way that may not be possible in the states.Rove! said:
Yep, the pervs have been waiting for this moment to strike. Now that there are all these damn trannies everywhere, finally, FINALLY! they can access public ladies' rooms to perform their lewd acts and prey on our sisters, daughters, wives and, I don't know, female bosses. I hope they make a federal law to protect the rest of us. In the meantime, wife and I are currently shopping for houses in the Charlotte burbs. Atlanta has been fun but we no longer feel safe.
Transgender people have been using the bathrooms of the gender they identify with for a long time. Has anything bad happen to your wife? Do you really think that predators have been waiting for a law to pass that says if they dress as a woman they can enter the womens room? If a predator wants to enter the ladies room, he will enter it. A criminal doesn't care about laws. A transgender using the same restroom as me doesn't bother me at all. I do not need protecting as Gov. McCrory suggest. I am concerned about a transgender having to use a bathroom of the gender he/she was born as, and getting attacked. Gov. McCrory keeps saying it is common sense. It is not. It is ignorance and discrimination.
What was stopping these “perverts” from doing this prior to HB2?
Why not flip that around? If you agree that entertainers can pick an choose where they perform based on their own personal beliefs, then how do you deny that same right to wedding caterers (for example)?
you deny it if it is illegal And discriminatory by law. can you prove springsteen denied service to gays based on sexual orientation or The wedding planner who refused service? this is a mini jim crow. remember when We could discriminate against black renters, Etc? so, can a real estate agent here now deny service to a gay couple based on their beliefs? discrimination against any group of americans in America should be illegal. IMO
Are you saying that Bruce Springsteen should have been forced to perform in North Carolina against his will?
absolutely not. it is his choice to perform where he wants. if he chooses not to perform here, is it illegal or discriminatory?
IMO ..If he took money... yes... He can refund his tickets that he sold..but can he refund the plane tickets or hotel rooms that have been bought and paid for... This is like calling in a fake sick day...
You get nothing. All of the refunds went back to the original purchaser of the ticket. A lot of folks got screwed here.
Who did PJ discriminate against?
No, they're not mandated to perform the service ... they are required to perform it in a nondiscriminatory manner, just as Pearl Jam would be if they decided to perform their service. The baker is free to say "#### this place" and not do business at all, just as Pearl Jam did.
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The better analogy is if he performed there, but didn't let bigots into his show.
No, even homophobic bakers serve gays all the time. A baker bakes a cake for a (straight) wedding. Some gays attend and enjoy the cake. That's similar to Springsteen performing and having some bigots filter into the audience.
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uts on George W mask::The sexuality of the parties is not a "venue," it's a customer trait. The baker is free to decide not to "perform" in a "venue" if there's something about the venue's rules they don't like- say for example at a country club that doesn't admit Jews, or at a gay club that doesn't admit straight people. But they cannot pick and choose their customers based on a trait that is considered a protected class under applicable laws.
No, it's not - Springsteen is effectively going out of the touring business in NC until the business climate (e.g., laws) are more to his liking. He's not limiting who can come to his show or not (unless you want to continue with the argument that New York residents can go see him but North Carolina folks cannot... unless they travel, of course. Then they have all the access they want.)
