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Assani Fisher said:
Hand #2

I get 89os in MP and limp. A few other limpers both before and after me. I have a little over $200, everyone else important to the hand has me covered. Villian in this hand is an older guy, who is clearly a regular there. Seems like a fairly tight player, but at the same time he hasn't showed his hand when he hasn't had to, so I don't know for sure. But he definitely had that "nut peddling old man" look to him.

Flop comes 489 with two diamonds. Woman from hand #1 leads out for $10, villian calls, I raise to $40. They both call(everyone else folded at one point).

Turn is a 5 non diamond, giving 67 a straight. Woman checks, guy bets out $40 which really surprised me as I was all set to bet myself. I'm actually going to stop this hand in two different points. Your move.

What I did

I flat called. Woman flat called behind.

What I think I should've done

This is tough. On one hand, I don't want to continue to give cheap draws to the straights and flushes. On the other hand, I don't want to stack off here. I do have position, which is an argument for just calling. Really not sure. I guess if I had to say I think that raising all in would be my preferred move here, but its a close call and I don't hate myself for the way I played it.

The River

River is another six non diamond. Woman checks. Guy bets $100. Your move.

What I did

I thought for a while and called. Woman folded. Guy said "good call" and showed 7T. I showed my 89 and won.
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Didn't the guy win with a straight - 6 to 10? I may have misread your description, but I thought his hand beat your two pair (8's and 9's).
 
Witz said:
Assani Fisher said:
Hand #2

I get 89os in MP and limp. A few other limpers both before and after me. I have a little over $200, everyone else important to the hand has me covered. Villian in this hand is an older guy, who is clearly a regular there. Seems like a fairly tight player, but at the same time he hasn't showed his hand when he hasn't had to, so I don't know for sure. But he definitely had that "nut peddling old man" look to him.

Flop comes 489 with two diamonds. Woman from hand #1 leads out for $10, villian calls, I raise to $40. They both call(everyone else folded at one point).

Turn is a 5 non diamond, giving 67 a straight. Woman checks, guy bets out $40 which really surprised me as I was all set to bet myself. I'm actually going to stop this hand in two different points. Your move.

What I did

I flat called. Woman flat called behind.

What I think I should've done

This is tough. On one hand, I don't want to continue to give cheap draws to the straights and flushes. On the other hand, I don't want to stack off here. I do have position, which is an argument for just calling. Really not sure. I guess if I had to say I think that raising all in would be my preferred move here, but its a close call and I don't hate myself for the way I played it.

The River

River is another six non diamond. Woman checks. Guy bets $100. Your move.

What I did

I thought for a while and called. Woman folded. Guy said "good call" and showed 7T. I showed my 89 and won.
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Didn't the guy win with a straight - 6 to 10? I may have misread your description, but I thought his hand beat your two pair (8's and 9's).
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Crap, I messed up the river. Edited now.
 
From our session together: (ooh, that doesn't sound good)

#1 - That lady was an idiot and got really lucky. She was betting into you with a 2-outer and hit it on the river. I don't see what else you could do.

#2 - I think you played that really well. He was trying to buy the pot on the river and you read him correctly.

#3 - I vividly remember this hand and being surprised that you bet as much as you did with just KK. With the texture of the flop and the number of people seeing the flop, I was surprised that you thought KK would be good. I guess I could see you getting called by AQ or KQ, but otherwise, you're not beating very many hands. If you put both women on missed draws (QJ or JT) then you can't expect them to call your river bet and so checking the river seemed more appropriate.

 
Unlucky said:
#3 - I vividly remember this hand and being surprised that you bet as much as you did with just KK. With the texture of the flop and the number of people seeing the flop, I was surprised that you thought KK would be good. I guess I could see you getting called by AQ or KQ, but otherwise, you're not beating very many hands. If you put both women on missed draws (QJ or JT) then you can't expect them to call your river bet and so checking the river seemed more appropriate.
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I agree 100% here. I think there is a time for value and a time for pot-control. With multiple ppl calling you down, I like a ck behind on th river here, or at worst a smaller bet on the end. Like unlucky said, if they're both drawing, you're not getting paid off, so what will they call with?
 
Hand #1: well played.

Hand #2: stuff it on turn; good call on river.

Hand #3: I check behind on the river, you're WA/WB there.

 
I've never heard of him, but apparently Jonathan Little was a red name Full Tilt pro, so for the first time ever I collected on a bounty in a MTT at FT...pretty sweet!

Full Tilt Poker Game #4167608451: FTOPS Event #9 (30641976), Table 88 - 25/50 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 21:26:22 ET - 2007/11/13

Seat 1: bigblueshirt014 (3,345)

Seat 2: Assani Fisher (3,041)

Seat 3: CrackedNutzzz (190)

Seat 4: pokerskibum (6,200)

Seat 5: jowima (2,269)

Seat 6: HWrecker (3,380)

Seat 7: mrcall912 (2,630)

Seat 8: amfox1 (3,095)

Seat 9: Jonathan Little (2,850)

mrcall912 posts the small blind of 25

amfox1 posts the big blind of 50

The button is in seat #6

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Assani Fisher [2c Ac Ad 3s]

Jonathan Little calls 50

bigblueshirt014 calls 50

Assani Fisher raises to 275

CrackedNutzzz calls 190, and is all in

pokerskibum folds

jowima folds

HWrecker folds

mrcall912 folds

amfox1 folds

Jonathan Little calls 225

bigblueshirt014 calls 225

*** FLOP *** [2h 8d 7h]

Jonathan Little checks

bigblueshirt014 checks

Assani Fisher bets 475

Jonathan Little raises to 2,515

bigblueshirt014 folds

Assani Fisher raises to 2,766, and is all in

Jonathan Little calls 60, and is all in

Assani Fisher shows [2c Ac Ad 3s]

CrackedNutzzz shows [4c 2d 4s 2s]

Jonathan Little shows [8c Ts Jd 9h]

Uncalled bet of 191 returned to Assani Fisher

*** TURN *** [2h 8d 7h] [Qs]

*** RIVER *** [2h 8d 7h Qs] [Ks]

Assani Fisher shows a pair of Aces, for high andAssani Fisher shows 8,7,3,2,A, for low

Jonathan Little shows a pair of Eights, for high

Assani Fisher wins the high side pot (2,703) with a pair of Aces

Assani Fisher wins the low side pot (2,702) with 8,7,3,2,A

CrackedNutzzz shows three of a kind, Twos, for high

CrackedNutzzz wins the high main pot (418) with three of a kind, Twos

Assani Fisher wins the low main pot (417) with 8,7,3,2,A

Jonathan Little stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 6,240 Main pot 835. Side pot 5,405. | Rake 0

Board: [2h 8d 7h Qs Ks]

Seat 1: bigblueshirt014 folded on the Flop

Seat 2: Assani Fisher showed [2c Ac Ad 3s] and won (5,822) with HI: a pair of Aces; LO: 8,7,3,2,A

Seat 3: CrackedNutzzz showed [4c 2d 4s 2s] and won (418) with HI: three of a kind, Twos

Seat 4: pokerskibum didn't bet (folded)

Seat 5: jowima didn't bet (folded)

Seat 6: HWrecker (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 7: mrcall912 (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 8: amfox1 (big blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 9: Jonathan Little showed [8c Ts Jd 9h] and lost with HI: a pair of Eights

 
Full Tilt Poker Game #4168118263: FTOPS Event #9 (30641976), Table 88 - 50/100 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 22:11:25 ET - 2007/11/13

Seat 1: TheCatalan (2,960)

Seat 2: Assani Fisher (5,158)

Seat 3: CrackedNutzzz (6,981)

Seat 4: pokerskibum (3,795)

Seat 5: jowima (3,951)

Seat 6: HWrecker (2,310)

Seat 7: det3313 (8,482)

Seat 8: hiloaddict (13,426)

Seat 9: TerminatorY (2,135)

Assani Fisher posts the small blind of 50

CrackedNutzzz posts the big blind of 100

The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Assani Fisher [Ah 2d 2c Td]

pokerskibum folds

jowima folds

HWrecker calls 100

det3313 folds

hiloaddict calls 100

TerminatorY folds

TheCatalan folds

Assani Fisher calls 50

CrackedNutzzz checks

*** FLOP *** [5h 4d 6d]

Assani Fisher bets 100

CrackedNutzzz folds

HWrecker calls 100

hiloaddict folds

*** TURN *** [5h 4d 6d] [7s]

Assani Fisher bets 300

HWrecker calls 300

*** RIVER *** [5h 4d 6d 7s] [7d]

Assani Fisher bets 1,200

HWrecker calls 1,200

*** SHOW DOWN ***

Assani Fisher shows [Ah 2d 2c Td] a flush, Ten high, for high and 6,5,4,2,A, for low

HWrecker mucks

Assani Fisher wins the high pot (1,800) with a flush, Ten high

Assani Fisher wins the low pot (1,800) with 6,5,4,2,A

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 3,600 | Rake 0

Board: [5h 4d 6d 7s 7d]

Seat 1: TheCatalan (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 2: Assani Fisher (small blind) showed [Ah 2d 2c Td] and won (3,600) with HI: a flush, Ten high; LO: 6,5,4,2,A

Seat 3: CrackedNutzzz (big blind) folded on the Flop

Seat 4: pokerskibum didn't bet (folded)

Seat 5: jowima didn't bet (folded)

Seat 6: HWrecker mucked [Ac 8c Js 3h] - HI: a pair of Sevens; LO: 6,5,4,3,A

Seat 7: det3313 didn't bet (folded)

Seat 8: hiloaddict folded on the Flop

Seat 9: TerminatorY didn't bet (folded)

 
ugh just got quartered. Don't have hand history, but flop was 234 with 2 hearts. I had A57 with two hearts(ace wasn't heart though) so a 6 or a heart gave me an even better high hand. He had A5 with ace high flush draw...flush hit. Shortstack now.

 
Full Tilt Poker Game #4169232882: FTOPS Event #9 (30641976), Table 16 - 300/600 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 23:52:37 ET - 2007/11/13

Seat 1: Assani Fisher (7,572)

Seat 2: urbandb888 (18,875)

Seat 3: liquidranall (15,488)

Seat 5: 210867 (30,219)

Seat 7: XxCxX (14,371)

Seat 8: MommaSub (35,081)

Seat 9: lymbyk (5,436)

Assani Fisher posts the small blind of 300

urbandb888 posts the big blind of 600

The button is in seat #9

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Assani Fisher [3c 2h Th 6c]

liquidranall folds

Red_Nuggets sits down

Red_Nuggets adds 15,469

210867 calls 600

XxCxX folds

MommaSub folds

CheetahMhanna sits down

CheetahMhanna adds 12,940

lymbyk folds

Assani Fisher calls 300

urbandb888 checks

*** FLOP *** [7h 9h Ah]

Assani Fisher checks

urbandb888 checks

210867 checks

*** TURN *** [7h 9h Ah] [5h]

Assani Fisher checks

urbandb888 bets 1,275

210867 calls 1,275

Assani Fisher has 15 seconds left to act

Assani Fisher raises to 3,000

urbandb888 has 15 seconds left to act

urbandb888 calls 1,725

210867 folds

*** RIVER *** [7h 9h Ah 5h] [Kc]

Assani Fisher bets 3,972, and is all in

urbandb888 calls 3,972

*** SHOW DOWN ***

Assani Fisher shows [3c 2h Th 6c] a flush, Ace high, for high and 7,5,3,2,A, for low

urbandb888 mucks

Assani Fisher wins the high pot (8,510) with a flush, Ace high

Assani Fisher wins the low pot (8,509) with 7,5,3,2,A

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 17,019 | Rake 0

Board: [7h 9h Ah 5h Kc]

Seat 1: Assani Fisher (small blind) showed [3c 2h Th 6c] and won (17,019) with HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 7,5,3,2,A

Seat 2: urbandb888 (big blind) mucked [3h 4h 8h 8c] - HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 7,5,4,3,A

Seat 3: liquidranall didn't bet (folded)

Seat 5: 210867 folded on the Turn

Seat 7: XxCxX didn't bet (folded)

Seat 8: MommaSub didn't bet (folded)

Seat 9: lymbyk (button) didn't bet (folded)

 
Full Tilt Poker Game #4169341706: FTOPS Event #9 (30641976), Table 16 - 400/800 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 0:03:14 ET - 2007/11/14

Seat 1: Assani Fisher (17,919)

Seat 2: urbandb888 (5,127)

Seat 3: liquidranall (6,427)

Seat 4: Red_Nuggets (31,888)

Seat 5: 210867 (27,544)

Seat 6: CheetahMhanna (17,617)

Seat 7: XxCxX (20,431)

Seat 8: MommaSub (23,062)

Seat 9: lymbyk (5,436)

210867 posts the small blind of 400

CheetahMhanna posts the big blind of 800

The button is in seat #4

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Assani Fisher [As 8d 2s Kc]

XxCxX raises to 1,600

MommaSub folds

lymbyk has 15 seconds left to act

lymbyk folds

Assani Fisher calls 1,600

urbandb888 folds

liquidranall has 15 seconds left to act

liquidranall raises to 6,427, and is all in

Red_Nuggets folds

210867 calls 6,027

CheetahMhanna folds

XxCxX folds

XxCxX: i really want to call that

Assani Fisher has 15 seconds left to act

XxCxX: i really do

Assani Fisher calls 4,827

*** FLOP *** [Jc 2c Ts]

210867 checks

Assani Fisher checks

*** TURN *** [Jc 2c Ts] [Kh]

210867 checks

Assani Fisher bets 3,500

210867 calls 3,500

*** RIVER *** [Jc 2c Ts Kh] [8s]

210867 checks

Assani Fisher checks

*** SHOW DOWN ***

Assani Fisher shows [As 8d 2s Kc] two pair, Kings and Eights, for high

210867 mucks

Assani Fisher wins the side pot (7,000) with two pair, Kings and Eights

liquidranall shows [Tc 3h Qd Ah] a straight, Ace high, for high

liquidranall wins the main pot (21,681) with a straight, Ace high

No low hand qualified

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 28,681 Main pot 21,681. Side pot 7,000. | Rake 0

Board: [Jc 2c Ts Kh 8s]

Seat 1: Assani Fisher showed [As 8d 2s Kc] and won (7,000) with HI: two pair, Kings and Eights

Seat 2: urbandb888 didn't bet (folded)

Seat 3: liquidranall showed [Tc 3h Qd Ah] and won (21,681) with HI: a straight, Ace high

Seat 4: Red_Nuggets (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 5: 210867 (small blind) mucked [4c Ac 5s 3d] - HI: Ace King high

Seat 6: CheetahMhanna (big blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 7: XxCxX folded before the Flop

Seat 8: MommaSub didn't bet (folded)

Seat 9: lymbyk didn't bet (folded)

 
ugh...push with A257 doubled suited, called by A279...not sure why he'd risk his tourney(he was all in) on that by calling...but oh well....4000 left now.

 
Out in 57th....still now sure how he can call with that hand. Hes behind with so much and theres no fold equity, which is so vital in these tourneys. Oh well.

 
rabidfireweasel said:
As for the paintings, I make all kinds of painting sizes. Probably for a bachelor in an apartment, a 40"x30" or 48"x36" would be pretty big. I could make two that you could hang side by side in a big place (40" x 60") or keep on different walls until then. I am looking forward to painting you some icy pots. Lots of Ice.
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Something tells me you won't be making any blowtorch art this time...
 
Two good things to report:

-This past Friday I ended my live losing streak. I moved up to $2/5 since they'll respect my raises better there(jokes). No real interesting hands though. I actually got off to a pretty bad start and was thinking "here we go again", but had about $250 left from a $500 buy in when I had AK of spades, and got it all in on a flop with 2 spades and 3 low cards. He had JJ and I won the coinflip. Later hit a set and doubled up again. Ended up winning $600+.

-Finally got my rakeback on full tilt, so I've started playing there a bit in addition to playing under Dodds. I got $775 for rakeback just six days ago, and my full tilt account is now up to just under $5000....really running well at the $5/10 NLO8 games there, which play unlike any other O8 game I've ever played....a lot of shortstacks, everyone very aggressive, lots of all ins preflop. Variance could potentially be huge, but so far so good.

 
I'll be in Vegas a week from today. I get in about 10am. I am either going to Bellagio or the Wynn for a tourny. Leaning toward the Bellagio 500 buy in @ 2pm. Friday I am going to hit the cash games at the Venitian. If you are near there stop in. I'll have some sort of Carolina Hurricanes hat on. Plus I seen pictures of you.

 
Cavalier said:
I'll be in Vegas a week from today. I get in about 10am. I am either going to Bellagio or the Wynn for a tourny. Leaning toward the Bellagio 500 buy in @ 2pm. Friday I am going to hit the cash games at the Venitian. If you are near there stop in. I'll have some sort of Carolina Hurricanes hat on. Plus I seen pictures of you.
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My usual Friday night routine is to go play somewhere and load up on free drinks then hit up a bar or random party place on the strip, so yeah I'd be interested. PM me if you wanna exchange phone numbers and we can meet up that night.
 
Assani Fisher said:
Hand #3

The game was pretty tight. At least 3 of the people there were regulars and solid overall players. Add in me and Mike and you have yourself a tight table for sure. So I had been raising more often preflop, often only to $7. Had been successful taking down a few small pots. I had raised 3 out of the last 4 pots to $7 preflop and followed them all up with continuation bets on the flop.

One villian in this hand is a middle aged lady who thus far has played almost exactly as I play at $1/2. Obviously it hasn't been enough to tell for sure how good she is, and obviously there has to be some reason why shes only playing $1/2, but I would say I was impressed. She had about $215.

Other villian in hand is a young big breasted lady who just sat down with her boyfriend. Both of them were drinking and looked to be there just to gamble and have fun.

I get KK in MP and it has been folded to me. I raise again to $7, praying that someone gets tired of my act and comes over the top. Nobody does. In fact, the worst possible thing happens: I get a ton of callers.

Flop is 9TQ. Not exactly a perfect flop for me, but it'll do. Checked to me, I bet $15 and get 4 callers. Not good. Probably should've bet more, but I was prepared to release the hand to any aggression.

Turn is a rag, although I believe there is now a flush draw out there. Checked to me again, I bet $50. The big breasted lady calls from LP and the older villian calls from the blinds.

River is another rag, no flush came. If I had to say I think the board is something like 9TQ45, but the last two cards are really inconsequential. Older lady checks. Older lady has $150 left, big breasted lady has $100 left, you have them both covered. Your move.

What I did

I moved all in. Big breasted lady folded. Older lady called. Older lady showed Q9 for two pair and took the pot.

What I think I should've done

My thoughts at the time were that any hand that had me beat on the flop or turn would've surely bet or raised at some point to protect the hand against the draws. However, looking back I can see why she played the hand like she did, and I actually could see myself playing the hand like that(although I probably lead out on river once draws miss) some of the time. I dunno. I was surprised that I was beat. Still not really certain if I should've checked or not.
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JMon348 said:
I think you're giving her too much credit. She's probably just a timid player and isnt going to bet/raise, just check/call unless she has the nuts.
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Unlucky said:
#3 - I vividly remember this hand and being surprised that you bet as much as you did with just KK. With the texture of the flop and the number of people seeing the flop, I was surprised that you thought KK would be good. I guess I could see you getting called by AQ or KQ, but otherwise, you're not beating very many hands. If you put both women on missed draws (QJ or JT) then you can't expect them to call your river bet and so checking the river seemed more appropriate.
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fasteddie_21 said:
I agree 100% here. I think there is a time for value and a time for pot-control. With multiple ppl calling you down, I like a ck behind on th river here, or at worst a smaller bet on the end. Like unlucky said, if they're both drawing, you're not getting paid off, so what will they call with?
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Sorry its taken me a while to respond here. Lets discuss.....

First off lets discuss the big breasted lady. I think she was definitely paying me off with top pair. Unlucky, do you disagree with this? She was a typical fish and if she had called down with top pair then she was definitely calling for the last $100.

With the other lady, I just can't get past the way she played the flop and turn. Perhaps, JMon is correct in that I'm giving her too much credit(there has to be some reason that shes playing the lowest stakes any casino offers, right?). But with that said, I was very impressed with her leading up to this hand. Unlucky, remember our talk in the sportsbook when I discussed the difference between a solid winner at $1/2(where you're at now) and someone who really crushes the game and will soon move up to $2/5? I was hesitant to give you that advice because I didn't know if you were skilled enough to use it(thats not meant as criticism, I had seen you play one short session before so theres no way I could know), but I basically said that real good postflop players will play a ton of hands at $1/2, especially in position. They'll be very aggressive when they have huge hands and won't overvalue medium strength hands......well this lady was playing exactly as I advised imo. I really did think that highly of her.

And looking at the hand from her perspective, if you're planning on calling down on the river then I can't see why check raise pushing the turn or leading out on the river isn't a better play(probably moreso the former than the latter). From how she played it, I thought there was a much greater chance that she had a hand like AQ or a missed draw than 2 flopped pair.

I do understand the mistake of giving opponents too much credit, especially at $1/2 and I have worked on that in the past. Perhaps I did indeed make that mistake again here. I dunno, I thought it was warranted though.

Eddie, there was well over $250 in the pot and my opponents had $100 and $150 left...I really don't think a smaller bet would've made much sense.

In the end it comes down to this....

A: Times that I'm beat and they'll call(note that its almost 100% that they'll call when I'm beat)

B: Times that I'm ahead and they'll call(with all the money in the pot and having called so much already I think that any top pair has to call me here unless they suddenly get a great read on me)

Which is greater, A or B? If its A then check; If its B then bet. This analysis does ignore the unlikely event that I check and get bluffed out by a worse hand, but I think thats such a small chance that we can ignore it.

I dunno....I'm understanding what you guys are saying and, as I said, I have made the mistake of giving too much credit(assuming that an opponent will play a hand as I would) so it does resonate with me that I may have made it again. With that said, I think its possible that you guys are being a bit results oriented too. Interesting debate for sure.

 
Assani Fisher said:
First off lets discuss the big breasted lady. I think she was definitely paying me off with top pair. Unlucky, do you disagree with this? She was a typical fish and if she had called down with top pair then she was definitely calling for the last $100.
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No doubt she'd pay you off with top pair. She wasn't good and you can't give her credit for too much.
With the other lady, I just can't get past the way she played the flop and turn. Perhaps, JMon is correct in that I'm giving her too much credit(there has to be some reason that shes playing the lowest stakes any casino offers, right?). But with that said, I was very impressed with her leading up to this hand. Unlucky, remember our talk in the sportsbook when I discussed the difference between a solid winner at $1/2(where you're at now) and someone who really crushes the game and will soon move up to $2/5? I was hesitant to give you that advice because I didn't know if you were skilled enough to use it(thats not meant as criticism, I had seen you play one short session before so theres no way I could know), but I basically said that real good postflop players will play a ton of hands at $1/2, especially in position. They'll be very aggressive when they have huge hands and won't overvalue medium strength hands......well this lady was playing exactly as I advised imo. I really did think that highly of her.And looking at the hand from her perspective, if you're planning on calling down on the river then I can't see why check raise pushing the turn or leading out on the river isn't a better play(probably moreso the former than the latter). From how she played it, I thought there was a much greater chance that she had a hand like AQ or a missed draw than 2 flopped pair.I do understand the mistake of giving opponents too much credit, especially at $1/2 and I have worked on that in the past. Perhaps I did indeed make that mistake again here. I dunno, I thought it was warranted though.
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Here's the thing: she flopped two pair, top and bottom. So, she wasn't super strong, like a set or straight. She knows you're aggressively betting, and there's a 3rd player in the hand. I think she was first to act out of the three of you, so she was trapping/calling down. By letting you bet, it kept the 3rd player in the hand and built a much bigger pot. I'm not sure if that was her intention, or she was just too scared to really push on this hand. Maybe she felt like she was leading, but wasn't sure enough, and so just wanted to play as cheaply as possible. As an observer in the hand, I got a read on her that she was stronger than one pair, which is why I was surprised to see you bet out with just an overpair. To put it another way, she wasn't the type to pay you off with just one pair. However, with the other lady that would pay you off with just a pair, it makes for a hard decision on the river.
 
Thanks for the thoughts....I think the presence of the 3rd player would make it more likely for the older lady to check raise push on the turn since there were so many draws out there. I mean, consider her options after the action gets back to her on the turn....she has $200 left and is facing a $50 bet. The pot will be close to two times her stack on the river, so shes probably going to have to call any bet. Why not just get it all in there?

Although it probably didn't impact my play that much, I also had raised the last few pots too, and she was probably perceptive enough to notice that.

I'd rather make an aggressive mistake than a passive mistake in poker too. Either way, I don't think its clear cut. I am constantly trying to balance how much credit to give people at low stakes and how much to trust these reads though, so even though I may appear to be disagree with all of you, I do very much understand your points and am considering them carefully.

 
So I'm no longer under playing under Dodds. We had a really good run:

51 days played

$19,036 won

He got $6029; I got $13,007

We had one bad run in the early stages which shook our confidence, but other than that it was pretty smooth sailing.

I'm probably going to keep playing PLO8 and NLO8 on Stars and Full Tilt. I'll add in some MTTs too. Hopefully I can consistently build the bankroll at O8 and then all I need is one big score in a tourney to be set. Then I'd probably just focus on tourneys as they are just so much easier and less stressful for me.

 
Assani Fisher said:
So I'm no longer under playing under Dodds. We had a really good run:51 days played$19,036 wonHe got $6029; I got $13,007We had one bad run in the early stages which shook our confidence, but other than that it was pretty smooth sailing.I'm probably going to keep playing PLO8 and NLO8 on Stars and Full Tilt. I'll add in some MTTs too. Hopefully I can consistently build the bankroll at O8 and then all I need is one big score in a tourney to be set. Then I'd probably just focus on tourneys as they are just so much easier and less stressful for me.
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Nice job on the staking results. Question on the second part: do MTTs maximize your $/hr while minimizing your risk of busto?
 
Assani Fisher said:
So I'm no longer under playing under Dodds. We had a really good run:51 days played$19,036 wonHe got $6029; I got $13,007We had one bad run in the early stages which shook our confidence, but other than that it was pretty smooth sailing.I'm probably going to keep playing PLO8 and NLO8 on Stars and Full Tilt. I'll add in some MTTs too. Hopefully I can consistently build the bankroll at O8 and then all I need is one big score in a tourney to be set. Then I'd probably just focus on tourneys as they are just so much easier and less stressful for me.
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Happy to say that I made an error in calculating(and to Dodds' credit he messaged me back and told me about it when he could've kept the money himself and I probably never would've known)....51 days played$22,036 wonHe got $6329; I got $15,707
 
So I've determined that I'm going to try to get into THIS TOURNAMENT by playing THESE SATELLITES. The last step of those pays out cash to some spots in addittion to the tourney entry to the top spot, so that'll keep me from spending too much money chasing the entry imo. Plus you can win more than one and just take $11,000 in W$. I think the lower steps are really really soft. Plan is to spend an entire day or two just playing step 1s and getting as many step 2 entries as possible then move up and take it one day at a time.

 
Voice Of Reason said:
Assani Fisher said:
Unlucky said:
To put it another way, she wasn't the type to pay you off with just one pair. However, with the other lady that would pay you off with just a pair, it makes for a hard decision on the river.
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Question for thought: How do you think she plays AQ in that spot?
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Assani, I'm interested in how you would play AQ in that spot. I really struggle in all, not just tough spots, OOP.
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Very read and situational dependant. Since I had raised preflop frequently, if I were her I may have actually re raised preflop with so much dead money in there with AQ. I definitely would at least call the flop. On the turn I think you have to decide to either stick it all in on a check raise or fold. Against a tight player, I fold on the turn. Its very tough though, and I can admit that I'd call down sometimes if I wasn't playing my best(which is why I played my KK so strongly in this spot).
 
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