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I'll fold and wait for a better spot. People will eventually make mistakes and give their money away. Theres no reason for me to take huge risks in order to win a pot like this.
I just changed my mind, and this is the best reason I have seen in the entire thread for laying this down. I overlooked it, and it's an important point.
 
I don't know what he has. I honestly don't. I'm out of position, I have shown aggression which has been met with re-aggression from 2 opponents, and I have no clue what he may have. In short, I'm in a terrible spot.

I'll fold and wait for a better spot. People will eventually make mistakes and give their money away. Theres no reason for me to take huge risks in order to win a pot like this.
If you are going to fold this hand to a reraise, I would like to see a stronger bet after the flop. But what do I know.
I agree with you here. With a small intitial post flop bet you are not sure if he is simply taking a shot at you or if he has a hand. It is likely to cost you most of your chips to find out. Even head up you could do it with more confidence.
 
I will let you reply and have your last word here, and then if  you want to discuss it more, just start a new thread. We have polluted this otherwise excellent thread long enough.
JAA, RFW, and anyone else:I appriciate these discussions. Feel free to continue any discussions about my hands played here. Only helps me.
I wasn't going to reply in here, as there were obviously much better players typing out their thoughts, but I think the AA hand was very interesting.First, I think you were caught in a Harrington-type squeeze play. You were out of position with a nice holding. LP player had to figure he was in control of the action no matter what you had. With a ragged board out there, he could represent any hand and probably win the hand.

Second when I get AA UTG, I'll make a very large size bet (not a standard 2-4x BB raise, I'm talking 12-15x BB raise) and either try to get a looser player to call and take it down on the flop, or I'll pull a Doyle Brunson like limp and hope for a raise behind me so I can re-raise large and take this down preflop.

With AA in early position it's like a double edged sword. You want action, but when you get action you're probably in trouble with a few good players. Personally, I agree with JAA's analysis in this instance. I think you were against KJ or AJ for the initial raiser and the LP smooth caller probably had KK, or maybe nothing at all. But, exactly like RFW said, you'd be risking $1600 to win $700 as the only hands that would call you would have you beat (in this case more than likely a set), so I have no problem with you laying it down. I would have played the hand out and probably took a subsequent beating.

Thanks for listing so many hands AF. Really makes for interesting discussions. :thumbup:
Not sure of this, definately possible but not sure.......If MP has set, why reraise? Nothing scary out there? Why not call and hope he hits two pair...........or even better makes trips. Or just fires again at the pot? If we are giving this player credit it for being good, would he reraise if he had a set?Don't know. He would if he thought he would get called. I think the second best hand here won.

AJ, 1010 99........but who knows.

 
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The problem is twofold:  1) tI am faced with a $250 raise where if I push, I am only going to get called with KK or a hand that can beat me. I am risking 1600 to win 700. I need to right more than twice as often as I am wrong.
This is the key point imo. If you play back here, you show huge strength and theres no way a hand worse than yours will call.
Well, as we see, LP was bluffing. EP is our only concern. I accept the way you would have played it, its your perogative. I think another option would have been to call LP and see what EP does.
 
It's always in the set's best interest to raise, because you're looking to stack up people that can't get away from their overpairs. If they fold, so what? They most likely weren't putting much more money in the pot anyway. When you raise an identical amount in the same situation with a draw, you like that fold.

I'm flabbergasted that anyone would risk their stack in a multiway pot with an overpair. Wait for a better spot. If you come over the top you're only getting called by a better hand anyway. You're risking being pot commited with your entire stack to win 1/4 of a buyin or so with just a single pair. That's just crazy talk.

Calling the raise is possible here, but what are you going to do when he pushes on the turn? Fold? Call? Are you hoping he checks behind? I push the turn with a set or a draw in his position. If I have TPTK I'm not putting another dime in this pot after the flop call. Where is the value here? Call the big all-in and hope he's on a draw?
The reason I am willing to mix is a few fold. First, Im pretty sure AFs image is loose. Second, Ive put my opponents on ranges of hands and I think I see a winner more often than not (just speaking to LPs raise). Finally, I dont know what EP is going to do. If he holds, I like my chances. If he doesnt, Im worried. Why would I take that chance? Well, chances are he doesnt have a hand.If EP calls, I revaluate the turn. I feel I am behind at this point. However, I need to see him call before I fold.

If EP folds, my goal is to get all my money in the middle. I might be beat, but thats my objective.

As the hand plays out, I call down EP and I feel im 50/50 to win the pot.

Your bolded statement reiterates my point. You push the turn, not the flop. Raising the flop can be value for sets, but why bother? You want to get all your money in the middle and have the chance to triple up with a ragged board. If the board was not so ragged, I definately play faster, but it isnt.

As far as waiting for a better spot. What spot are you looking for? You have an opportunity to triple up here. Your hand may not be the best, but its far from a loser. Are you going to nut-peddle to wait for your better spot?
There is no way you're tripling up here. If the third player calls, you're toast. If you can find two idiots that will put their money in with a single pair or less, then you might as well play the lottery. Unless they're both slowplaying QQ or KK, you're just going to be losing your stack.If your decision is to get it heads up and you're willing to put the money in the middle, then fine. You can play it like that. I don't like it, mostly because I learned that I'll never see another dime (outside of what went into the pot on the flop) when I'm ahead, and I lose my stack when I'm behind. When I say 'better spot' I don't mean holding the nuts. I mean the hand is heads up, or you have position, or you're the one being the aggressor.

What I meant about pushing the turn is that once I know you're willing to call a big raise, I'll just push the turn with my set, forcing you to make a big decision. If I have a pair of jacks, I know I'm beat once you make the flop call, so I check behind on the turn and fold unimproved. I can play a draw either way, although I did say I'd push it on the turn much of the time. It's really somewhat read dependant. If I thought you'd be willing to call a bet that is around twice the size of the pot with a single pair, I'd check behind and hope to hit my draw. I'd rarely be in this situation, though, since I wouldn't raise in position with an open ended straight draw when there is a smoothcaller.

 
I suppose it may be possible, but it just isn't likely. I trust math and odds and try to use that to keep my head level when playing. It is probably why I play more limit than NL too. I play a live game with Bax weekly and he was always getting "unlucky" and steaming. Well, he recently started cutting back on the beer while playing and while he hasn't really been winning a bunch, he certainly isn't taking the big beats he used to see on occasion. I don't know, I am one that thinks you make your own luck, but when I haven't seen much of your game other than what you have posted here it is impossible for me to say if you are just unlucky or not.
So you can make your own luck, but you can't be inherently unlucky, or at the very least much more unlucky than others? You kind of like to have your cake and eat it too! :D
 
The problem is twofold:  1) tI am faced with a $250 raise where if I push, I am only going to get called with KK or a hand that can beat me. I am risking 1600 to win 700. I need to right more than twice as often as I am wrong.
This is the key point imo. If you play back here, you show huge strength and theres no way a hand worse than yours will call.
Well, as we see, LP was bluffing. EP is our only concern. I accept the way you would have played it, its your perogative. I think another option would have been to call LP and see what EP does.
I don't like a call, EP flat calls you are in the same boat.
 
My basic point is this:

There are 3 general situations:

Hands in which I'm the aggressor

Hands in which my opponent is the aggressor

Hands in which I have a monster hand(and it doesn't matter who the aggressor is becasue I'm just trying to maximize my value).

The strength of my hands really doesn't matter at all in the first two situations. I could have 2-7os and miss the flop or I could have top pair with an ace kicker. I don't like to play in pots in which my opponent has assumed the role of aggressor...it puts me in a scary situation where I don't know what I should do or how I will react. I don't know which cards are outs for me or if I'm ahead of behind. Big pots are lost this way imho.
I wrote this on the first day of my quest. Clearly I was playing well during those first few days. Yesterday, for the first time in a while, I felt at the top of my game. Regarding the AA hand, I would point back to this post. Let me repeat: THE STRENGTH OF MY HAND DOES NOT MATTER. I don't care that I have AA. I would play AA there the same as I would play 2-7os when I'm on the top of my game.JAA, consider for a second that I have 2-7os. Then how would you play the hand(assume that for some reason I tried to bluff preflop to get myself in that position)? One pair on the flop is not a monster even if that pair is AA.
Im a little confused by your request. You are saying that UTG I raise to steal the blinds. I get called by 2 behind. I bluff again into the 2 callers with a very weak bet. EP calls and LP raises.I fold.

I guess Im confused to the situation.

One part of my game I have been working on is EP and turn play where I am the aggressor. I think a lot of money is won and lost in these areas and I think your hand is a good illustrator of it.

You raised PF from EP which means in theory you want to push out crappy draws. You get two callers and a somewhat ragged flop. You weak c-bet, 1 caller and 1 raiser. I smell steal from LP.

For me, there are two types of bets/raises:

- Bets to get you to call

- Bets to get you to fold

I see LPs bet as one to get you to fold. EPs now, well, I think it was one to get you to call. This tells me he has a hand, it doesnt tell me his hand is better than mine though.

 
First, Im pretty sure AFs image is loose.
Several times throughout this thread, I've seen people label Assani as loose. I play a lot of NL ring. There are certainly people who also mistakenly label me as loose and the reason is that they now and then, see a hand at showdown that shocks them - a hand that I played just like AA and I had trash that connected. This style of play isn't for everyone. Personally, it suits me. And I think this is Assani's game too. At times, it can appear to be loose because you are willing to raise with all kinds of odd stuff. But on the whole, I seriously doubt anyone who plays with him regularly (and most of the people in this game are the same day in and day out) views him as loose. Remember, he's only posting hands he gets involved with - not the other 80% that he folds.

 
What do you think he has? MP I'm guessing 22 or 33, LP I'm guessing was pulling a Harrington and trying to steal. I don't see MP not trying to isolate you with JJ but it is a possiblity.
I don't know what he has. I honestly don't. I'm out of position, I have shown aggression which has been met with re-aggression from 2 opponents, and I have no clue what he may have. In short, I'm in a terrible spot.I'll fold and wait for a better spot. People will eventually make mistakes and give their money away. Theres no reason for me to take huge risks in order to win a pot like this.
Well, in the 10/20 I have played, I would not call your bets "aggression". You made a small EP raise and a tiny c-bet. If you would have potted the flop, I smell aggression. Your tiny c-bet smells trap to me depending on your image.
 
It's always in the set's best interest to raise, because you're looking to stack up people that can't get away from their overpairs.  If they fold, so what?  They most likely weren't putting much more money in the pot anyway. When you raise an identical amount in the same situation with a draw, you like that fold.

I'm flabbergasted that anyone would risk their stack in a multiway pot with an overpair.  Wait for a better spot.  If you come over the top you're only getting called by a better hand anyway.  You're risking being pot commited with your entire stack to win 1/4 of a buyin or so with just a single pair.  That's just crazy talk.

Calling the raise is possible here, but what are you going to do when he pushes on the turn?  Fold?  Call?  Are you hoping he checks behind?  I push the turn with a set or a draw in his position.  If I have TPTK I'm not putting another dime in this pot after the flop call.  Where is the value here?  Call the big all-in and hope he's on a draw?
The reason I am willing to mix is a few fold. First, Im pretty sure AFs image is loose. Second, Ive put my opponents on ranges of hands and I think I see a winner more often than not (just speaking to LPs raise). Finally, I dont know what EP is going to do. If he holds, I like my chances. If he doesnt, Im worried. Why would I take that chance? Well, chances are he doesnt have a hand.If EP calls, I revaluate the turn. I feel I am behind at this point. However, I need to see him call before I fold.

If EP folds, my goal is to get all my money in the middle. I might be beat, but thats my objective.

As the hand plays out, I call down EP and I feel im 50/50 to win the pot.

Your bolded statement reiterates my point. You push the turn, not the flop. Raising the flop can be value for sets, but why bother? You want to get all your money in the middle and have the chance to triple up with a ragged board. If the board was not so ragged, I definately play faster, but it isnt.

As far as waiting for a better spot. What spot are you looking for? You have an opportunity to triple up here. Your hand may not be the best, but its far from a loser. Are you going to nut-peddle to wait for your better spot?
When I hit a set against AA against an opponent who has a tough time laying down AA.And theres no way you 'triple up' here unless you hit your set on the turn or river.
We agree to disagree ... that is unless you know what your opponents card holdings are and you can read any of their raises. Because if you do know this information all the time I would agree with you.I do have a tough time laying down AA. I am not a nut-peddler. My experience has shown me getting my money in on a flop like this is +EV.

Youre right, I cannot triple up, LP folded his huge bet.

 
While I know Harrington's book is currently all the rage, the concept of squeezing out the best hand who is stuck in the relative middle position was written about more than 30 years ago by the lovely and talented David Sklansky(when he was much more enjoyable to read) in his Hi-Lo 7 stud section in the original supersystem. While hi-lo brings its own nuances to this situation, the premise is the same: you think that you have the first player beat but you have to fold because you are in the middle and uncertain of the strength of the player yet to act. Sklansky states that there is little defense against it. You simply just squueze other people. If you look to checkraise against people who use that technique against you then you risk giving a free card to a person who might have a marginal hand that can improve to beat.

Good players can be bluffed and good players often lay down the best hand. They also often lay down a good but not best holding for lots o' chips.

 
I will let you reply and have your last word here, and then if  you want to discuss it more, just start a new thread. We have polluted this otherwise excellent thread long enough.
JAA, RFW, and anyone else:I appriciate these discussions. Feel free to continue any discussions about my hands played here. Only helps me.
I love the dialogue. I truly appreciate others approach to the game. I am always looking to imrpove. I often find this happens through discussion (heated or not). If at any point though AF, this is your thread, feel free to step in.
 
While I know Harrington's book is currently all the rage, the concept of squeezing out the best hand who is stuck in the relative middle position was written about more than 30 years ago by the lovely and talented David Sklansky(when he was much more enjoyable to read) in his Hi-Lo 7 stud section in the original supersystem. While hi-lo brings its own nuances to this situation, the premise is the same: you think that you have the first player beat but you have to fold because you are in the middle and uncertain of the strength of the player yet to act. Sklansky states that there is little defense against it. You simply just squueze other people. If you look to checkraise against people who use that technique against you then you risk giving a free card to a person who might have a marginal hand that can improve to beat.

Good players can be bluffed and good players often lay down the best hand. They also often lay down a good but not best holding for lots o' chips.
In the end, if the hand shows anything, it should show everyone how valuable position really is.
 
There is no right or wrong.  I am expressing my opinion, you disagree.  I dont have a problem with that.

What you did say was "First, you are wrong about not having concerns about the player raising it to 320. If I have any set here, I am going to raise the pot and pray to the poker gods that my opponent is like you and willing to overplay and overpair for 2K. This is how I made a ton of money playing poker, doubling up through people irrationally overplaying a hand gone south."  You may want to reread your own words.
Good idea.Here are some of my direct quotes

I think a fold is the right play. Certainly, I think if you are not at the table watching these players play, saying there is no way I fold is just silly. You should care if he has trips, because then you are huge dog. Perhaps you mean, he is going to have to show me the trips at the river after I have put all my cash in the pot. Assani is representing a big pair and two players don't seem to care. I think Assani bet too little on the flop (I would prefer a pot bet) but when there is a smooth call and pot sized bet, now he is the middle. He could call here heads up, but he has to fear a reraise from the player who has smooth called twice- who does then put in a massive reeraise.
I am not avoiding your question, I am reponding to the hand. When you are in a three way hand, you cannot focus on one opponent. As I said, if there was only one opponent (middle player folds) I would reraise.(This would imply that I think you are likely to have LP beat with AA- which means I don't think he has a set) Heads up pocket rockets are often a through ticket on a seemingly innocuous board. However, you are not heads up. What I am concerned about, and what causes me to strongly consider laying down this hand, is the player yet to act- not the player that raised first.
First, you are wrong about not having concerns about the player raising it to 320. If I have any set here, I am going to raise the pot and pray to the poker gods that my opponent is like you and willing to overplay and overpair for 2K. This is how I made a ton of money playing poker, doubling up through people irrationally overplaying a hand gone south. Sets are hard to come by, and good players are looking to double up when the get them- you double up by betting and raising. Here are some thoughts from Troly regarding how beatable NL is online because there are no shortage of players willing to overplay and overpair post flop. Dodds in the same thread talks about a player who reraises you is telling you that he is willing to play for his whole stack. So while it is not likely the last player has JJ, if you are really surprise if he shows you a set, I don't think much of your play,
Yes, I am confused. I showed you a quote where you told me I should be afraid of LPs set, and then you showed me another quote that says other. I dont know what to say. You quoted me originally in which I said your interpretation of LPs hand was wrong (which infact it was), and now I am getting different quotes out of context. While I know it wasnt your intent, I feel like you are picking small specific lines and pulling them out of context to make me look bad. I apologize if that isnt the case. Ive already apologized for coming off abrasive to you, I not going to concede any farther.
 
I'll fold and wait for a better spot. People will eventually make mistakes and give their money away. Theres no reason for me to take huge risks in order to win a pot like this.
I just changed my mind, and this is the best reason I have seen in the entire thread for laying this down. I overlooked it, and it's an important point.
AF makes a great point, people make mistakes. I honestly believe both EP and LP are making mistakes playing their hands this way. I think this is the spot. LP is living proof of it.Also, if EP does turn over a set ... I still think it was a mistake. AF has told us numerous times he will laydown his overpairs, so EP didnt have a solid read on him and overplayed his hand ;) .

 
It's always in the set's best interest to raise, because you're looking to stack up people that can't get away from their overpairs.  If they fold, so what?  They most likely weren't putting much more money in the pot anyway. When you raise an identical amount in the same situation with a draw, you like that fold.

I'm flabbergasted that anyone would risk their stack in a multiway pot with an overpair.  Wait for a better spot.  If you come over the top you're only getting called by a better hand anyway.  You're risking being pot commited with your entire stack to win 1/4 of a buyin or so with just a single pair.  That's just crazy talk.

Calling the raise is possible here, but what are you going to do when he pushes on the turn?  Fold?  Call?  Are you hoping he checks behind?  I push the turn with a set or a draw in his position.  If I have TPTK I'm not putting another dime in this pot after the flop call.  Where is the value here?  Call the big all-in and hope he's on a draw?
The reason I am willing to mix is a few fold. First, Im pretty sure AFs image is loose. Second, Ive put my opponents on ranges of hands and I think I see a winner more often than not (just speaking to LPs raise). Finally, I dont know what EP is going to do. If he holds, I like my chances. If he doesnt, Im worried. Why would I take that chance? Well, chances are he doesnt have a hand.If EP calls, I revaluate the turn. I feel I am behind at this point. However, I need to see him call before I fold.

If EP folds, my goal is to get all my money in the middle. I might be beat, but thats my objective.

As the hand plays out, I call down EP and I feel im 50/50 to win the pot.

Your bolded statement reiterates my point. You push the turn, not the flop. Raising the flop can be value for sets, but why bother? You want to get all your money in the middle and have the chance to triple up with a ragged board. If the board was not so ragged, I definately play faster, but it isnt.

As far as waiting for a better spot. What spot are you looking for? You have an opportunity to triple up here. Your hand may not be the best, but its far from a loser. Are you going to nut-peddle to wait for your better spot?
There is no way you're tripling up here. If the third player calls, you're toast. If you can find two idiots that will put their money in with a single pair or less, then you might as well play the lottery. Unless they're both slowplaying QQ or KK, you're just going to be losing your stack.If your decision is to get it heads up and you're willing to put the money in the middle, then fine. You can play it like that. I don't like it, mostly because I learned that I'll never see another dime (outside of what went into the pot on the flop) when I'm ahead, and I lose my stack when I'm behind. When I say 'better spot' I don't mean holding the nuts. I mean the hand is heads up, or you have position, or you're the one being the aggressor.

What I meant about pushing the turn is that once I know you're willing to call a big raise, I'll just push the turn with my set, forcing you to make a big decision. If I have a pair of jacks, I know I'm beat once you make the flop call, so I check behind on the turn and fold unimproved. I can play a draw either way, although I did say I'd push it on the turn much of the time. It's really somewhat read dependant. If I thought you'd be willing to call a bet that is around twice the size of the pot with a single pair, I'd check behind and hope to hit my draw. I'd rarely be in this situation, though, since I wouldn't raise in position with an open ended straight draw when there is a smoothcaller.
I will agree that AA is either way ahead or way behind.I feel AA is way ahead. I dont believe either player has a set. We know LP doesnt, and EP would not have gotten proper value if he did have one.

I agree, it comes down to EP. However, with how the hand was played to AFs action on the flop, I would have called there. I would have done a couple things differently, but in the end my read on the play is "I like my chances".

 
The problem is twofold:  1) tI am faced with a $250 raise where if I push, I am only going to get called with KK or a hand that can beat me. I am risking 1600 to win 700. I need to right more than twice as often as I am wrong.
This is the key point imo. If you play back here, you show huge strength and theres no way a hand worse than yours will call.
Well, as we see, LP was bluffing. EP is our only concern. I accept the way you would have played it, its your perogative. I think another option would have been to call LP and see what EP does.
I don't like a call, EP flat calls you are in the same boat.
Without knowing ahead of time that EP raises after I fold, I like that play. Since we cant garuntee EPs actions if I call or push, its tough to travel down that road. Too many variables in my opinion. I would agree that if EP calls, we need to rethink. But I feel if you go back and look at AFs EP small PF raise (which could be contrued as massaging the pot, AK-Ts), his small PosFP bet out, I dont see sets being this aggressive with the texture of the flop. :2cents:

 
There is no right or wrong.  I am expressing my opinion, you disagree.  I dont have a problem with that.

What you did say was "First, you are wrong about not having concerns about the player raising it to 320. If I have any set here, I am going to raise the pot and pray to the poker gods that my opponent is like you and willing to overplay and overpair for 2K. This is how I made a ton of money playing poker, doubling up through people irrationally overplaying a hand gone south."  You may want to reread your own words.
Good idea.Here are some of my direct quotes

I think a fold is the right play. Certainly, I think if you are not at the table watching these players play, saying there is no way I fold is just silly. You should care if he has trips, because then you are huge dog. Perhaps you mean, he is going to have to show me the trips at the river after I have put all my cash in the pot. Assani is representing a big pair and two players don't seem to care. I think Assani bet too little on the flop (I would prefer a pot bet) but when there is a smooth call and pot sized bet, now he is the middle. He could call here heads up, but he has to fear a reraise from the player who has smooth called twice- who does then put in a massive reeraise.
I am not avoiding your question, I am reponding to the hand. When you are in a three way hand, you cannot focus on one opponent. As I said, if there was only one opponent (middle player folds) I would reraise.(This would imply that I think you are likely to have LP beat with AA- which means I don't think he has a set) Heads up pocket rockets are often a through ticket on a seemingly innocuous board. However, you are not heads up. What I am concerned about, and what causes me to strongly consider laying down this hand, is the player yet to act- not the player that raised first.
First, you are wrong about not having concerns about the player raising it to 320. If I have any set here, I am going to raise the pot and pray to the poker gods that my opponent is like you and willing to overplay and overpair for 2K. This is how I made a ton of money playing poker, doubling up through people irrationally overplaying a hand gone south. Sets are hard to come by, and good players are looking to double up when the get them- you double up by betting and raising. Here are some thoughts from Troly regarding how beatable NL is online because there are no shortage of players willing to overplay and overpair post flop. Dodds in the same thread talks about a player who reraises you is telling you that he is willing to play for his whole stack. So while it is not likely the last player has JJ, if you are really surprise if he shows you a set, I don't think much of your play,
Yes, I am confused. I showed you a quote where you told me I should be afraid of LPs set, and then you showed me another quote that says other. I dont know what to say. You quoted me originally in which I said your interpretation of LPs hand was wrong (which infact it was), and now I am getting different quotes out of context. While I know it wasnt your intent, I feel like you are picking small specific lines and pulling them out of context to make me look bad. I apologize if that isnt the case. Ive already apologized for coming off abrasive to you, I not going to concede any farther.
The quote you selected never states that I think the LP player has a set. I did not say "be afraid". Again and again, I pointed back to the middle player who has called twice. I said throughout the thread I think I probably have him beat. I said that I would be much more likely to play him heads up, if the middle player had folded. The part you bolded means that you have to consider that he may have set as a possible holding, because how he is playing is not out of line with how someone could play a set. It doesn't mean that a set is his most likely holding,it simply means that is a possible holding. If you simply go back and read my postings all the way through, I believe this is not to hard to understand. Your intial quote was, Something like "I don't care if he has a set, I am not laying this down." That is not likely what you think. As I said initially, I believe what you think is "I don't believe I am behind, and I am not folding here." Certainly though, if you knew he had a set, you would fold. So you do care, you just don't believe him.

That is why at times I find discussions with you so difficult. I feel like you plunge into the verbal battle not even without seeing what you are fighting. It is fine to disagree with me, just try to understand what I am saying before you disagree.

 
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First, Im pretty sure AFs image is loose. 
Several times throughout this thread, I've seen people label Assani as loose. I play a lot of NL ring. There are certainly people who also mistakenly label me as loose and the reason is that they now and then, see a hand at showdown that shocks them - a hand that I played just like AA and I had trash that connected. This style of play isn't for everyone. Personally, it suits me. And I think this is Assani's game too. At times, it can appear to be loose because you are willing to raise with all kinds of odd stuff. But on the whole, I seriously doubt anyone who plays with him regularly (and most of the people in this game are the same day in and day out) views him as loose. Remember, he's only posting hands he gets involved with - not the other 80% that he folds.
I agree completely. Matter of fact, i would say AF and I play a lot alike PF. I like to raise with position a lot of ranges of hands. I also like to call a raise (after a limp) EP depending on the family size of the pot. I love pre-flop pot odds in multi-way pots. I personally dont consider this loose because of how I play Post Flop, but with respect to "solid poker" it is loose play.This of course only pertains to NL ring

 
While I know Harrington's book is currently all the rage, the concept of squeezing out the best hand who is stuck in the relative middle position was written about more than 30 years ago by the lovely and talented David Sklansky(when he was much more enjoyable to read) in his Hi-Lo 7 stud section in the original supersystem. While hi-lo brings its own nuances to this situation, the premise is the same: you think that you have the first player beat but you have to fold because you are in the middle and uncertain of the strength of the player yet to act. Sklansky states that there is little defense against it. You simply just squueze other people. If you look to checkraise against people who use that technique against you then you risk giving a free card to a person who might have a marginal hand that can improve to beat.

Good players can be bluffed and good players often lay down the best hand. They also often lay down a good but not best holding for lots o' chips.
Im surprised a squeeze works as well in a limit format (assuming it was a limit format).
 
***** Hand History for Game 3730705427 *****$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, March 12, 05:25:55 ET 2006Table Table 95912 (No DP) (Real Money)Seat 5 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 6: AssaniFisher ( $5027 )Seat 10: unbridels ( $2322.48 )Seat 1: Gamble4You ( $2874.14 )Seat 3: ####heraeus ( $5790 )Seat 5: seeker2007 ( $2184 )Seat 4: Strumey ( $833.04 )Seat 8: bigbetjim ( $2057 )Seat 7: arbianight ( $1817 )Seat 2: UnifiedHeart ( $1970 )Seat 9: balls101 ( $980 )AssaniFisher posts small blind [$10].arbianight posts big blind [$20].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 2s Ks ]bigbetjim folds.balls101 folds.unbridels folds.>You have options at San Marino Table!.Gamble4You folds.UnifiedHeart folds.####heraeus folds.>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.Strumey calls [$20].seeker2007 folds.AssaniFisher calls [$10].arbianight checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 7s, 6s ]>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.AssaniFisher bets [$35].arbianight folds.Strumey calls [$35].** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]AssaniFisher bets [$45].Strumey calls [$45].** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]AssaniFisher bets [$125].Strumey raises [$250].>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.AssaniFisher raises [$674].>You have options at San Marino Table!.Strumey is all-In [$483.04]AssaniFisher shows [ 2s, Ks ] a flush, king high.Strumey shows [ 3s, As ] a flush, ace high.AssaniFisher wins $65.96 from side pot #1 with a flush, king high.Strumey wins $1683.08 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.Wish the flush came. Should've bet a little less on the river.
This is clearly an example of the superior player winning the hand. :P ;)
 
Your intial quote was, Something like "I don't care if he has a set, I am not laying this down." That is not likely what you think. As I said initially, I believe what you think is "I don't believe I am behind, and I am not folding here." Certainly though, if you knew he had a set, you would fold. So you do care, you just don't believe him.
If I know he has a set (JJ, 33, 22), I fold. If I know he has KK-QQ, AJ, I push.It would obviously be much easier is we knew all 3 players images. Unfortunately, we dont have that information. We do know AF will play with any 2 cards, from any position, limp or raising. We can assume the other players know this.

If I am in LP, I am making a big raise woth those two limpers if I have AK->AJ or TT. I would prolly onnly make it 280, but his 320 is obviously close. I would do this if I felt I could take this pot know. This would be read dependant and I would need to think I was ahead. IMHO, more times than not, this will get folded to me. The reason it gets folded to me is because my table image is one that I usually only show down monsters. It is about a pot sized bet, and against a typical opponent, where I didnt raise PF, my position dictates the hand. If I am called, I know I need to improve, simple gap-concept, it takes a better hand to call than to bet. This bet should get me a free card on the turn (I would need to hit big) and I know there is little chance anyone is bluffing. I this instance, Im risking ~300 to win ~300. I like this bet with the action infront of me. Obviously, the hand didnt play out in which everyone folded to me.

If Im EP I would call with a set. I dont care if its 22. I will go broke getting my money in the middle when I have sets, but on a flop like this, aint no way raising against 2 opponents unless we get to over 1/2 our stacks and we are all pot committed. I feel my hand is way too strong. If I have AJ, and put LP on a steal, Im raising like this. My guess is EP puts LP on overcards (maybe Ax) and wants him to pay now. Remember, it is much more typical to see TPTK check raise on the flop than a set reraise (yes I know it was a call-reraise).

 
I will let you reply and have your last word here, and then if  you want to discuss it more, just start a new thread. We have polluted this otherwise excellent thread long enough.
JAA, RFW, and anyone else:I appriciate these discussions. Feel free to continue any discussions about my hands played here. Only helps me.
I wasn't going to reply in here, as there were obviously much better players typing out their thoughts, but I think the AA hand was very interesting.First, I think you were caught in a Harrington-type squeeze play. You were out of position with a nice holding. LP player had to figure he was in control of the action no matter what you had. With a ragged board out there, he could represent any hand and probably win the hand.

Second when I get AA UTG, I'll make a very large size bet (not a standard 2-4x BB raise, I'm talking 12-15x BB raise) and either try to get a looser player to call and take it down on the flop, or I'll pull a Doyle Brunson like limp and hope for a raise behind me so I can re-raise large and take this down preflop.

With AA in early position it's like a double edged sword. You want action, but when you get action you're probably in trouble with a few good players. Personally, I agree with JAA's analysis in this instance. I think you were against KJ or AJ for the initial raiser and the LP smooth caller probably had KK, or maybe nothing at all. But, exactly like RFW said, you'd be risking $1600 to win $700 as the only hands that would call you would have you beat (in this case more than likely a set), so I have no problem with you laying it down. I would have played the hand out and probably took a subsequent beating.

Thanks for listing so many hands AF. Really makes for interesting discussions. :thumbup:
I'm curious as to why you and other people think that KK is such a strong possibility. Why would he smooth call my preflop raise with KK? That seems like an invitation for danger since hes inviting others into the pot cheaply.I understand calling a re raise with AA or KK for deception, but even then I prefer to have position when I do that. I hate to cold call a small raise when I'm in EP with AA or KK and I can't imagine that he would've done this very often.

 
I don't know what he has. I honestly don't. I'm out of position, I have shown aggression which has been met with re-aggression from 2 opponents, and I have no clue what he may have. In short, I'm in a terrible spot.

I'll fold and wait for a better spot. People will eventually make mistakes and give their money away. Theres no reason for me to take huge risks in order to win a pot like this.
If you are going to fold this hand to a reraise, I would like to see a stronger bet after the flop. But what do I know.
That is a fair criticism, and I agree.
 
I'm curious as to why you and other people think that KK is such a strong possibility. Why would he smooth call my preflop raise with KK? That seems like an invitation for danger since hes inviting others into the pot cheaply.

I understand calling a re raise with AA or KK for deception, but even then I prefer to have position when I do that. I hate to cold call a small raise when I'm in EP with AA or KK and I can't imagine that he would've done this very often.
Maybe because he didn't feel your preflop raise was high enough and was trying to slow play? :shrug: Sure there was a possibility he had a small pocket pair and hit his set. I'd say the chances are just as strong he had a high pocket pair, like KK, and when he saw a board with no over cards a small continuation bet, and a pot size raise, figured he would take this down right here, as he figured his kings were best.

 
My basic point is this:

There are 3 general situations:

Hands in which I'm the aggressor

Hands in which my opponent is the aggressor

Hands in which I have a monster hand(and it doesn't matter who the aggressor is becasue I'm just trying to maximize my value).

The strength of my hands really doesn't matter at all in the first two situations. I could have 2-7os and miss the flop or I could have top pair with an ace kicker. I don't like to play in pots in which my opponent has assumed the role of aggressor...it puts me in a scary situation where I don't know what I should do or how I will react. I don't know which cards are outs for me or if I'm ahead of behind. Big pots are lost this way imho.
I wrote this on the first day of my quest. Clearly I was playing well during those first few days. Yesterday, for the first time in a while, I felt at the top of my game. Regarding the AA hand, I would point back to this post. Let me repeat: THE STRENGTH OF MY HAND DOES NOT MATTER. I don't care that I have AA. I would play AA there the same as I would play 2-7os when I'm on the top of my game.JAA, consider for a second that I have 2-7os. Then how would you play the hand(assume that for some reason I tried to bluff preflop to get myself in that position)? One pair on the flop is not a monster even if that pair is AA.
Im a little confused by your request. You are saying that UTG I raise to steal the blinds. I get called by 2 behind. I bluff again into the 2 callers with a very weak bet. EP calls and LP raises.I fold.

I guess Im confused to the situation.

One part of my game I have been working on is EP and turn play where I am the aggressor. I think a lot of money is won and lost in these areas and I think your hand is a good illustrator of it.

You raised PF from EP which means in theory you want to push out crappy draws. You get two callers and a somewhat ragged flop. You weak c-bet, 1 caller and 1 raiser. I smell steal from LP.

For me, there are two types of bets/raises:

- Bets to get you to call

- Bets to get you to fold

I see LPs bet as one to get you to fold. EPs now, well, I think it was one to get you to call. This tells me he has a hand, it doesnt tell me his hand is better than mine though.
It very well could be a steal from LP. The problem is that not only do I have to be correct about that, but I also have to hope that the EP caller doesn't have a set or 2 pair, and his smooth call is scary. Furthermore, I have to be correct more than 50% of the time in order for this to work since I'm looking at losing a lot more than I'll win when I'm right. If LP is going to make these kind of steal attempts against me, then I'll wait until I really do have a monster and crush him. I see no reason to not believe people when I'm out of position. Folding the winning hand is often a small mistake. Calling with the worst hand is often a huge mistake.

 
First, Im pretty sure AFs image is loose. 
Several times throughout this thread, I've seen people label Assani as loose. I play a lot of NL ring. There are certainly people who also mistakenly label me as loose and the reason is that they now and then, see a hand at showdown that shocks them - a hand that I played just like AA and I had trash that connected. This style of play isn't for everyone. Personally, it suits me. And I think this is Assani's game too. At times, it can appear to be loose because you are willing to raise with all kinds of odd stuff. But on the whole, I seriously doubt anyone who plays with him regularly (and most of the people in this game are the same day in and day out) views him as loose. Remember, he's only posting hands he gets involved with - not the other 80% that he folds.
I would say I'm like this:From EP/MP, I'm generally pretty tight with my calling/raising requirements.

From LP, I'm definitely loose with both, and I'll almost always raised if I'm going to play and nobody has entered the pot yet.

After the flop, I am very loose with my betting requirements when its been checked to me. If theres 4 of less people in the hand, and its been checked to me, and the flop isn't scary(for example, if I had 44 and the flop contained an ace I would consider that a scary flop) I'm betting about 1/2 the pot nearly all of the time. I do this with trash, but more importantly I do this with monsters as well. If I have a loose image, this is definitely the area.

As you can tell, I'm pretty tight when faced with aggression back at me.

 
It very well could be a steal from LP. The problem is that not only do I have to be correct about that, but I also have to hope that the EP caller doesn't have a set or 2 pair, and his smooth call is scary. Furthermore, I have to be correct more than 50% of the time in order for this to work since I'm looking at losing a lot more than I'll win when I'm right.

If LP is going to make these kind of steal attempts against me, then I'll wait until I really do have a monster and crush him. I see no reason to not believe people when I'm out of position. Folding the winning hand is often a small mistake. Calling with the worst hand is often a huge mistake.
This is very sound.I really don't think 2-pair should factor into your thinking though. I don't see any reasonable player limping into a pot holding J2 or J3. 23? Maybe, but I doubt it.

 
It very well could be a steal from LP. The problem is that not only do I have to be correct about that, but I also have to hope that the EP caller doesn't have a set or 2 pair, and his smooth call is scary. Furthermore, I have to be correct more than 50% of the time in order for this to work since I'm looking at losing a lot more than I'll win when I'm right.

If LP is going to make these kind of steal attempts against me, then I'll wait until I really do have a monster and crush him. I see no reason to not believe people when I'm out of position. Folding the winning hand is often a small mistake. Calling with the worst hand is often a huge mistake.
This is very sound.I really don't think 2-pair should factor into your thinking though. I don't see any reasonable player limping into a pot holding J2 or J3. 23? Maybe, but I doubt it.
My party poker account sent me a harsh reminder of this this past weekend.
 
***** Hand History for Game 3730705427 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, March 12, 05:25:55 ET 2006

Table Table 95912 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: AssaniFisher ( $5027 )

Seat 10: unbridels ( $2322.48 )

Seat 1: Gamble4You ( $2874.14 )

Seat 3: ####heraeus ( $5790 )

Seat 5: seeker2007 ( $2184 )

Seat 4: Strumey ( $833.04 )

Seat 8: bigbetjim ( $2057 )

Seat 7: arbianight ( $1817 )

Seat 2: UnifiedHeart ( $1970 )

Seat 9: balls101 ( $980 )

AssaniFisher posts small blind [$10].

arbianight posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 2s Ks ]

bigbetjim folds.

balls101 folds.

unbridels folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Gamble4You folds.

UnifiedHeart folds.

####heraeus folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Strumey calls [$20].

seeker2007 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$10].

arbianight checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 7s, 6s ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher bets [$35].

arbianight folds.

Strumey calls [$35].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]

AssaniFisher bets [$45].

Strumey calls [$45].

** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]

AssaniFisher bets [$125].

Strumey raises [$250].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher raises [$674].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Strumey is all-In [$483.04]

AssaniFisher shows [ 2s, Ks ] a flush, king high.

Strumey shows [ 3s, As ] a flush, ace high.

AssaniFisher wins $65.96 from side pot #1 with a flush, king high.

Strumey wins $1683.08 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.

Wish the flush came. Should've bet a little less on the river.
This is clearly an example of the superior player winning the hand. :P ;)
very glad that the loss was somewhat minimal since you're too scared to buy in for the full $2000 ;)
 
***** Hand History for Game 3730705427 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, March 12, 05:25:55 ET 2006

Table Table 95912 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: AssaniFisher ( $5027 )

Seat 10: unbridels ( $2322.48 )

Seat 1: Gamble4You ( $2874.14 )

Seat 3: ####heraeus ( $5790 )

Seat 5: seeker2007 ( $2184 )

Seat 4: Strumey ( $833.04 )

Seat 8: bigbetjim ( $2057 )

Seat 7: arbianight ( $1817 )

Seat 2: UnifiedHeart ( $1970 )

Seat 9: balls101 ( $980 )

AssaniFisher posts small blind [$10].

arbianight posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 2s Ks ]

bigbetjim folds.

balls101 folds.

unbridels folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Gamble4You folds.

UnifiedHeart folds.

####heraeus folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Strumey calls [$20].

seeker2007 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$10].

arbianight checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 7s, 6s ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher bets [$35].

arbianight folds.

Strumey calls [$35].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]

AssaniFisher bets [$45].

Strumey calls [$45].

** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]

AssaniFisher bets [$125].

Strumey raises [$250].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher raises [$674].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Strumey is all-In [$483.04]

AssaniFisher shows [ 2s, Ks ] a flush, king high.

Strumey shows [ 3s, As ] a flush, ace high.

AssaniFisher wins $65.96 from side pot #1 with a flush, king high.

Strumey wins $1683.08 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.

Wish the flush came. Should've bet a little less on the river.
This is clearly an example of the superior player winning the hand. :P ;)
very glad that the loss was somewhat minimal since you're too scared to buy in for the full $2000 ;)
Actually, I dont think you make the same play if I have more money. I deliberately buy in for $1k on those tables because it is rare that I actually double up on those tables. $1K seems to be plenty to put at risk since there are a ton of guys like woot4donks who buy in for $400 and piss it away in that size chunks. All the good players are the ones buying in for $2K and my chances of double against them arent as good. Actually, I am interested to hear theory on buy in size. I have done the full buy in on many occasions, but find I do better with 1K.

 
I'm curious as to why you and other people think that KK is such a strong possibility. Why would he smooth call my preflop raise with KK? That seems like an invitation for danger since hes inviting others into the pot cheaply.

I understand calling a re raise with AA or KK for deception, but even then I prefer to have position when I do that. I hate to cold call a small raise when I'm in EP with AA or KK and I can't imagine that he would've done this very often.
Maybe because he didn't feel your preflop raise was high enough and was trying to slow play? :shrug: Sure there was a possibility he had a small pocket pair and hit his set. I'd say the chances are just as strong he had a high pocket pair, like KK, and when he saw a board with no over cards a small continuation bet, and a pot size raise, figured he would take this down right here, as he figured his kings were best.
I will certainly slowplay big pairs at times but my PT reminds me it is not the most profitable way to play (I think I'm still under water with AA when I cold call). I do it anyway because it adds a bit of deception. I never want to play any hand the same way all the time. This is the same reason I will limp-reraise now and then (though I don't do this as often in the passive games on Party). However, in this situation, I don't really concern myself with KK too much. It's pretty rare that people will slow play KK vs an UTG raise with a caller in between. You're more likely to see this when you are heads up and the caller is near the button. There's a very specific reason for this. If you have KK, you don't really want to play a multi-way pot. The idea of slowplaying it is to sucker in an opponent, not to get stacked. When you are playing multiway like this, if any ace falls, you are in no man's land (or you are mucking). I'm not saying I would never do it or more importantly an opponent would never do it, but I'm saying its less likely than you guys are giving credit for. Additionally, an UTG raise shows significant strength not the kind of hands that fold to a reraise.

I know Assani has picked up a tip from Dodds to raise less without position and more with it, regardless of strength of hand. This is pretty easy to figure out if you play with him much. So, in this case, the "smallish" preflop raise is actually his standard UTG raise.

As a side note, anyone not doing this, really should. It makes a ton of sense because without position, if you get several callers, a continuation bet can be problematic. For instance, if you raise to 60, get called in 3 places, the pot is now 270. A continuation bet to have any meat has to be at least 200. You are now forced to lead into a field for 200 to find out if anyone hit anything. Just making a 50 bet instead, you limit your continuation bet exposure by 30-40. This adds up. Just be sure that you are consistent with your raises regardless of the strength of your hand.

 
***** Hand History for Game 3730705427 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, March 12, 05:25:55 ET 2006

Table Table 95912 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: AssaniFisher ( $5027 )

Seat 10: unbridels ( $2322.48 )

Seat 1: Gamble4You ( $2874.14 )

Seat 3: ####heraeus ( $5790 )

Seat 5: seeker2007 ( $2184 )

Seat 4: Strumey ( $833.04 )

Seat 8: bigbetjim ( $2057 )

Seat 7: arbianight ( $1817 )

Seat 2: UnifiedHeart ( $1970 )

Seat 9: balls101 ( $980 )

AssaniFisher posts small blind [$10].

arbianight posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 2s Ks ]

bigbetjim folds.

balls101 folds.

unbridels folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Gamble4You folds.

UnifiedHeart folds.

####heraeus folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Strumey calls [$20].

seeker2007 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$10].

arbianight checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 7s, 6s ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher bets [$35].

arbianight folds.

Strumey calls [$35].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]

AssaniFisher bets [$45].

Strumey calls [$45].

** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]

AssaniFisher bets [$125].

Strumey raises [$250].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher raises [$674].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Strumey is all-In [$483.04]

AssaniFisher shows [ 2s, Ks ] a flush, king high.

Strumey shows [ 3s, As ] a flush, ace high.

AssaniFisher wins $65.96 from side pot #1 with a flush, king high.

Strumey wins $1683.08 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.

Wish the flush came. Should've bet a little less on the river.
This is clearly an example of the superior player winning the hand. :P ;)
very glad that the loss was somewhat minimal since you're too scared to buy in for the full $2000 ;)
Actually, I dont think you make the same play if I have more money. I deliberately buy in for $1k on those tables because it is rare that I actually double up on those tables. $1K seems to be plenty to put at risk since there are a ton of guys like woot4donks who buy in for $400 and piss it away in that size chunks. All the good players are the ones buying in for $2K and my chances of double against them arent as good. Actually, I am interested to hear theory on buy in size. I have done the full buy in on many occasions, but find I do better with 1K.
Strumey, I think if you are a winning player, you are limiting your winnings as opposed to your losses by short buying. Do all the good players buyin for 2000? Sure. But hopefully you are holding your own with them. Personally, I tend to attack players with short rolls. I play them more aggressively because they can't burn me as much. The last thing I'd want is all the good players being even more aggressive against me. Stack size matters. You can lean on people. The big stacks will be more likely to fear you if you are deeper and thus stay out of your way more. I had an interesting discussion with gigabet____ the other day about this because we were at a table with 4-5 short stacks. He laughed when a guy moved all-in on the draw and giga called. His comment was essentially "what's to fear when you move all in?" I label short buyers as targets. I generally don't respect their game (which can often be a mistake as people such as DietCoke often shortbuy) and I will attack them knowing that if I get caught on a bluff or such, they do much less damage.

 
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Strumey, I think if you are a winning player, you are limiting your winnings as opposed to your losses by short buying. Do all the good players buyin for 2000? Sure. But hopefully you are holding your own with them. Personally, I tend to attack players with short rolls. I play them more aggressively because they can't burn me as much. The last thing I'd want is all the good players being even more aggressive against me. Stack size matters. You can lean on people. The big stacks will be more likely to fear you if you are deeper and thus stay out of your way more.

I had an interesting discussion with gigabet____ the other day about this because we were at a table with 4-5 short stacks. He laughed when a guy moved all-in on the draw and giga called. His comment was essentially "what's to fear when you move all in?" I label short buyers as targets. I generally don't respect their game (which can often be a mistake as people such as DietCoke often shortbuy) and I will attack them knowing that if I get caught on a bluff or such, they do much less damage.
I am doing well. I am up over $2K this month so far. I only play about an hour or two a night. I actually do the short buy for the less risk on one hand, but I have found that I rarely get in a situation where I double up in those games against the guys who buy in full stack. The one posted above against assani was a rare occasion. Even buying in at $1K, there are usually 4-5 people that are short buying with less, so I see it as I am getting a good value buy at the table with only risking half of the full buy in.It also helps me control my bad days. I try to limit my daily loss possibility at $1K. I have, on several occasions, lost $6K-$7K because i get on a bad streak and try to fight through it. It is much less expensive on the down turns to accept the $1K loss and come back the next day.

I am certainly not saying that my way is better, but I thought I would give an explanation behind my strategy.

 
Strumey, I think if you are a winning player, you are limiting your winnings as opposed to your losses by short buying. Do all the good players buyin for 2000? Sure. But hopefully you are holding your own with them. Personally, I tend to attack players with short rolls. I play them more aggressively because they can't burn me as much. The last thing I'd want is all the good players being even more aggressive against me. Stack size matters. You can lean on people. The big stacks will be more likely to fear you if you are deeper and thus stay out of your way more.

I had an interesting discussion with gigabet____ the other day about this because we were at a table with 4-5 short stacks. He laughed when a guy moved all-in on the draw and giga called. His comment was essentially "what's to fear when you move all in?" I label short buyers as targets. I generally don't respect their game (which can often be a mistake as people such as DietCoke often shortbuy) and I will attack them knowing that if I get caught on a bluff or such, they do much less damage.
I am doing well. I am up over $2K this month so far. I only play about an hour or two a night. I actually do the short buy for the less risk on one hand, but I have found that I rarely get in a situation where I double up in those games against the guys who buy in full stack. The one posted above against assani was a rare occasion. Even buying in at $1K, there are usually 4-5 people that are short buying with less, so I see it as I am getting a good value buy at the table with only risking half of the full buy in.It also helps me control my bad days. I try to limit my daily loss possibility at $1K. I have, on several occasions, lost $6K-$7K because i get on a bad streak and try to fight through it. It is much less expensive on the down turns to accept the $1K loss and come back the next day.

I am certainly not saying that my way is better, but I thought I would give an explanation behind my strategy.
If you are looking to limit losses, have you thought about just playing the 5-10 game?
 
***** Hand History for Game 3730705427 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, March 12, 05:25:55 ET 2006

Table Table 95912 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: AssaniFisher ( $5027 )

Seat 10: unbridels ( $2322.48 )

Seat 1: Gamble4You ( $2874.14 )

Seat 3: ####heraeus ( $5790 )

Seat 5: seeker2007 ( $2184 )

Seat 4: Strumey ( $833.04 )

Seat 8: bigbetjim ( $2057 )

Seat 7: arbianight ( $1817 )

Seat 2: UnifiedHeart ( $1970 )

Seat 9: balls101 ( $980 )

AssaniFisher posts small blind [$10].

arbianight posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 2s Ks ]

bigbetjim folds.

balls101 folds.

unbridels folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Gamble4You folds.

UnifiedHeart folds.

####heraeus folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Strumey calls [$20].

seeker2007 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$10].

arbianight checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 7s, 6s ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher bets [$35].

arbianight folds.

Strumey calls [$35].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]

AssaniFisher bets [$45].

Strumey calls [$45].

** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]

AssaniFisher bets [$125].

Strumey raises [$250].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher raises [$674].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Strumey is all-In [$483.04]

AssaniFisher shows [ 2s, Ks ] a flush, king high.

Strumey shows [ 3s, As ] a flush, ace high.

AssaniFisher wins $65.96 from side pot #1 with a flush, king high.

Strumey wins $1683.08 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.

Wish the flush came. Should've bet a little less on the river.
This is clearly an example of the superior player winning the hand. :P ;)
very glad that the loss was somewhat minimal since you're too scared to buy in for the full $2000 ;)
Actually, I dont think you make the same play if I have more money. I deliberately buy in for $1k on those tables because it is rare that I actually double up on those tables. $1K seems to be plenty to put at risk since there are a ton of guys like woot4donks who buy in for $400 and piss it away in that size chunks. All the good players are the ones buying in for $2K and my chances of double against them arent as good. Actually, I am interested to hear theory on buy in size. I have done the full buy in on many occasions, but find I do better with 1K.
I don't have a ton to say here, so I'm interested in hearing what others have to say. Basically I feel that if you are a winning player and you can afford it, then why wouldn't you buy in for less? The only reason would be is if you think the players that buy in for the full amount are better than you but the players who buy in for lower amounts are worse than you(you hint at this a bit, but don't exactly say that). I dunno...I've never really even considered buy in for less, although maybe I should think about it, particularly when I'm in a downswing.ETA: I'm pretty sure you were getting my entire stack there no matter how much is at stake.

 
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I don't have a ton to say here, so I'm interested in hearing what others have to say. Basically I feel that if you are a winning player and you can afford it, then why wouldn't you buy in for less? The only reason would be is if you think the players that buy in for the full amount are better than you but the players who buy in for lower amounts are worse than you(you hint at this a bit, but don't exactly say that). I dunno...I've never really even considered buy in for less, although maybe I should think about it, particularly when I'm in a downswing.

ETA: I'm pretty sure you were getting my entire stack there no matter how much is at stake.
Well, I guess I am not saying that I think the guys who buy in full stack are better than me. I do think that most of the better players on the site make the full buy in. I am just saying that there are guys that I know are crap players that I would prefer to go up against. I lay down good hands to certain players' raises because I would rather wait and risk my money against someone I know is easy money.I am a risk/reward player. If a guy I know is a solid player raises in early position, I may lay down 89suited or a middle pair or AT because it isnt worth trying to out play that guy, when I know I can out play others at the table more easily. Does that make sense? I reread this and is sounds confusing to me.

 
Anyone want to critique this hand? I cant see that hammering on the turn would have pushed him out.

***** Hand History for Game 3734236323 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 17:46:00 ET 2006

Table Table 95442 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: YahtzeeH ( $4014.50 )

Seat 7: athorn10 ( $1999.50 )

Seat 5: Strumey ( $1166 )

Seat 10: pit540540 ( $2417.18 )

Seat 4: thorladen ( $1885 )

Seat 8: Pokerator___ ( $2644 )

Seat 2: kingrbb ( $920 )

Seat 1: Razor_Edge ( $1695 )

Seat 3: frank7378747 ( $1268.78 )

Seat 9: lacone ( $1416.40 )

YahtzeeH posts small blind [$10].

athorn10 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Strumey [ Qd Ah ]

Pokerator___ folds.

lacone calls [$20].

pit540540 calls [$20].

Razor_Edge folds.

kingrbb folds.

frank7378747 raises [$120].

thorladen folds.

Strumey calls [$120].

YahtzeeH folds.

athorn10 folds.

lacone folds.

pit540540 calls [$100].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Td, Qh ]

pit540540 checks.

frank7378747 checks.

Strumey bets [$200].

pit540540 folds.

frank7378747 calls [$200].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]

frank7378747 checks.

Strumey checks.

** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]

frank7378747 bets [$250].

Strumey calls [$250].

frank7378747 shows [ Qs, Kh ] two pairs, kings and queens.

Strumey doesn't show [ Qd, Ah ] a pair of queens.

frank7378747 wins $1307 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and queens.

edit cause I psted the wrong hand

 
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Anyone want to critique this hand? I cant see that hammering on the turn would have pushed him out.

***** Hand History for Game 3734236323 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 17:46:00 ET 2006

Table Table 95442 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: YahtzeeH ( $4014.50 )

Seat 7: athorn10 ( $1999.50 )

Seat 5: Strumey ( $1166 )

Seat 10: pit540540 ( $2417.18 )

Seat 4: thorladen ( $1885 )

Seat 8: Pokerator___ ( $2644 )

Seat 2: kingrbb ( $920 )

Seat 1: Razor_Edge ( $1695 )

Seat 3: frank7378747 ( $1268.78 )

Seat 9: lacone ( $1416.40 )

YahtzeeH posts small blind [$10].

athorn10 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Strumey [ Qd Ah ]

Pokerator___ folds.

lacone calls [$20].

pit540540 calls [$20].

Razor_Edge folds.

kingrbb folds.

frank7378747 raises [$120].

thorladen folds.

Strumey calls [$120].

YahtzeeH folds.

athorn10 folds.

lacone folds.

pit540540 calls [$100].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Td, Qh ]

pit540540 checks.

frank7378747 checks.

Strumey bets [$200].

pit540540 folds.

frank7378747 calls [$200].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]

frank7378747 checks.

Strumey checks.

** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]

frank7378747 bets [$250].

Strumey calls [$250].

frank7378747 shows [ Qs, Kh ] two pairs, kings and queens.

Strumey doesn't show [ Qd, Ah ] a pair of queens.

frank7378747 wins $1307 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and queens.

edit cause I psted the wrong hand
You're right he probably wouldn't fold, that's great! You don't want your opponent folding second best hands. It's bad that he caught the river, but you played this hand a little too weak imo.edit: Great job yesterday Assani, glad to see you back in the green. Keep it up! :thumbup:

 
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Here is one more. Was this guy a complete idiot or is it just me.

***** Hand History for Game 3734322467 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 17:58:38 ET 2006

Table Table 95442 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 9 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: YahtzeeH ( $4004.50 )

Seat 7: athorn10 ( $1869.50 )

Seat 5: Strumey ( $618 )

Seat 10: pit540540 ( $2227.18 )

Seat 4: thorladen ( $3375.40 )

Seat 8: Pokerator___ ( $2554 )

Seat 2: kingrbb ( $1034 )

Seat 1: Razor_Edge ( $2077 )

Seat 3: frank7378747 ( $1917.78 )

Seat 9: josshouse ( $2027 )

pit540540 posts small blind [$10].

Razor_Edge posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Strumey [ As Jc ]

kingrbb folds.

frank7378747 folds.

thorladen folds.

Strumey raises [$60].

athorn10 folds.

Pokerator___ calls [$60].

josshouse folds.

pit540540 folds.

Razor_Edge folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Jd, 4h ]

Strumey bets [$70].

Pokerator___ calls [$70].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]

Strumey bets [$125].

Pokerator___ calls [$125].

** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]

Strumey bets [$182.33].

Pokerator___ raises [$364.66].

Strumey: why do I know you have 55

Strumey is all-In [$180.67]

Pokerator___ shows [ 5s, 5d ] a straight, two to six.

Strumey shows [ As, Jc ] a pair of jacks.

Pokerator___ wins $1.66 from side pot #1 with a straight, two to six.

Pokerator___ wins $1263 from the main pot with a straight, two to six.

kingrbb has left the table.

 
Here is one more. Was this guy a complete idiot or is it just me.

***** Hand History for Game 3734322467 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 17:58:38 ET 2006

Table Table 95442 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 9 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: YahtzeeH ( $4004.50 )

Seat 7: athorn10 ( $1869.50 )

Seat 5: Strumey ( $618 )

Seat 10: pit540540 ( $2227.18 )

Seat 4: thorladen ( $3375.40 )

Seat 8: Pokerator___ ( $2554 )

Seat 2: kingrbb ( $1034 )

Seat 1: Razor_Edge ( $2077 )

Seat 3: frank7378747 ( $1917.78 )

Seat 9: josshouse ( $2027 )

pit540540 posts small blind [$10].

Razor_Edge posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Strumey [ As Jc ]

kingrbb folds.

frank7378747 folds.

thorladen folds.

Strumey raises [$60].

athorn10 folds.

Pokerator___ calls [$60].

josshouse folds.

pit540540 folds.

Razor_Edge folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Jd, 4h ]

Strumey bets [$70].

Pokerator___ calls [$70].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]

Strumey bets [$125].

Pokerator___ calls [$125].

** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]

Strumey bets [$182.33].

Pokerator___ raises [$364.66].

Strumey: why do I know you have 55

Strumey is all-In [$180.67]

Pokerator___ shows [ 5s, 5d ] a straight, two to six.

Strumey shows [ As, Jc ] a pair of jacks.

Pokerator___ wins $1.66 from side pot #1 with a straight, two to six.

Pokerator___ wins $1263 from the main pot with a straight, two to six.

kingrbb has left the table.
I actually like the way he played. Unless you have a pocket there's a good chance you didn't hit the flop, and he hits a great card on the turn. On the flop he had to call $70 into a $220 pot. On the turn he had to call 125 into a $415 pot. He played this hand very well imo.
 
Anyone want to critique this hand?  I cant see that hammering on the turn would have pushed him out.

***** Hand History for Game 3734236323 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 17:46:00 ET 2006

Table Table  95442 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: YahtzeeH ( $4014.50 )

Seat 7: athorn10 ( $1999.50 )

Seat 5: Strumey ( $1166 )

Seat 10: pit540540 ( $2417.18 )

Seat 4: thorladen ( $1885 )

Seat 8: Pokerator___ ( $2644 )

Seat 2: kingrbb ( $920 )

Seat 1: Razor_Edge ( $1695 )

Seat 3: frank7378747 ( $1268.78 )

Seat 9: lacone ( $1416.40 )

YahtzeeH posts small blind [$10].

athorn10 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Strumey [  Qd Ah ]

Pokerator___ folds.

lacone calls [$20].

pit540540 calls [$20].

Razor_Edge folds.

kingrbb folds.

frank7378747 raises [$120].

thorladen folds.

Strumey calls [$120].

YahtzeeH folds.

athorn10 folds.

lacone folds.

pit540540 calls [$100].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Td, Qh ]

pit540540 checks.

frank7378747 checks.

Strumey bets [$200].

pit540540 folds.

frank7378747 calls [$200].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]

frank7378747 checks.

Strumey checks.

** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]

frank7378747 bets [$250].

Strumey calls [$250].

frank7378747 shows [ Qs, Kh ] two pairs, kings and queens.

Strumey doesn't show [ Qd, Ah ] a pair of queens.

frank7378747 wins $1307 from  the main pot  with two pairs, kings and queens.

edit cause I psted the wrong hand
You're right he probably wouldn't fold, that's great! You don't want your opponent folding second best hands. It's bad that he caught the river, but you played this hand a little too weak imo.edit: Great job yesterday Assani, glad to see you back in the green. Keep it up! :thumbup:
Not sure how I played this weak. Do I go over the top pre-flop with AQ? I dont think so. Do I bet more on the flop? 1/2 the pot into $400 pot is pretty strong. Maybe I bet the turn? I can see betting the turn here, but he doesnt go away, maybe if I go all in, but I have to be leary of KK or AA here. His strong Pre flop bet make that a possibility, especially with a smooth call on the flop. If he smooth called the flop, he could be trapping me on the turn. With his bet on the river, I have to respect that he is strong by the way he played the rest of the hand. A river raise by me gets called an I lose even more. Any other opinions?
 
Anyone want to critique this hand? I cant see that hammering on the turn would have pushed him out.

***** Hand History for Game 3734236323 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 17:46:00 ET 2006

Table Table 95442 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: YahtzeeH ( $4014.50 )

Seat 7: athorn10 ( $1999.50 )

Seat 5: Strumey ( $1166 )

Seat 10: pit540540 ( $2417.18 )

Seat 4: thorladen ( $1885 )

Seat 8: Pokerator___ ( $2644 )

Seat 2: kingrbb ( $920 )

Seat 1: Razor_Edge ( $1695 )

Seat 3: frank7378747 ( $1268.78 )

Seat 9: lacone ( $1416.40 )

YahtzeeH posts small blind [$10].

athorn10 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Strumey [ Qd Ah ]

Pokerator___ folds.

lacone calls [$20].

pit540540 calls [$20].

Razor_Edge folds.

kingrbb folds.

frank7378747 raises [$120].

thorladen folds.

Strumey calls [$120].

YahtzeeH folds.

athorn10 folds.

lacone folds.

pit540540 calls [$100].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Td, Qh ]

pit540540 checks.

frank7378747 checks.

Strumey bets [$200].

pit540540 folds.

frank7378747 calls [$200].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]

frank7378747 checks.

Strumey checks.

** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]

frank7378747 bets [$250].

Strumey calls [$250].

frank7378747 shows [ Qs, Kh ] two pairs, kings and queens.

Strumey doesn't show [ Qd, Ah ] a pair of queens.

frank7378747 wins $1307 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and queens.

edit cause I psted the wrong hand
I really don't like calling 1/10th of your stack with AQos preflop. I like the bet on the flop. I like the check on the turn- although I won't always check here, I will occassionally. The river is tough because he could have interpreted your check as weakness and be trying to win it there. I think it is possible to lay it down, but I don't fault your call.
 
Here is one more. Was this guy a complete idiot or is it just me.

***** Hand History for Game 3734322467 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 17:58:38 ET 2006

Table Table 95442 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 9 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: YahtzeeH ( $4004.50 )

Seat 7: athorn10 ( $1869.50 )

Seat 5: Strumey ( $618 )

Seat 10: pit540540 ( $2227.18 )

Seat 4: thorladen ( $3375.40 )

Seat 8: Pokerator___ ( $2554 )

Seat 2: kingrbb ( $1034 )

Seat 1: Razor_Edge ( $2077 )

Seat 3: frank7378747 ( $1917.78 )

Seat 9: josshouse ( $2027 )

pit540540 posts small blind [$10].

Razor_Edge posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Strumey [ As Jc ]

kingrbb folds.

frank7378747 folds.

thorladen folds.

Strumey raises [$60].

athorn10 folds.

Pokerator___ calls [$60].

josshouse folds.

pit540540 folds.

Razor_Edge folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Jd, 4h ]

Strumey bets [$70].

Pokerator___ calls [$70].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]

Strumey bets [$125].

Pokerator___ calls [$125].

** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]

Strumey bets [$182.33].

Pokerator___ raises [$364.66].

Strumey: why do I know you have 55

Strumey is all-In [$180.67]

Pokerator___ shows [ 5s, 5d ] a straight, two to six.

Strumey shows [ As, Jc ] a pair of jacks.

Pokerator___ wins $1.66 from side pot #1 with a straight, two to six.

Pokerator___ wins $1263 from the main pot with a straight, two to six.

kingrbb has left the table.
I actually like the way he played. Unless you have a pocket there's a good chance you didn't hit the flop, and he hits a great card on the turn. On the flop he had to call $70 into a $220 pot. On the turn he had to call 125 into a $415 pot. He played this hand very well imo.
Bets are way too small here. 2/3-3/4 of the pot should be standard.
 
My basic point is this:

There are 3 general situations:

Hands in which I'm the aggressor

Hands in which my opponent is the aggressor

Hands in which I have a monster hand(and it doesn't matter who the aggressor is becasue I'm just trying to maximize my value).

The strength of my hands really doesn't matter at all in the first two situations. I could have 2-7os and miss the flop or I could have top pair with an ace kicker. I don't like to play in pots in which my opponent has assumed the role of aggressor...it puts me in a scary situation where I don't know what I should do or how I will react. I don't know which cards are outs for me or if I'm ahead of behind. Big pots are lost this way imho.
I wrote this on the first day of my quest. Clearly I was playing well during those first few days. Yesterday, for the first time in a while, I felt at the top of my game. Regarding the AA hand, I would point back to this post. Let me repeat: THE STRENGTH OF MY HAND DOES NOT MATTER. I don't care that I have AA. I would play AA there the same as I would play 2-7os when I'm on the top of my game.JAA, consider for a second that I have 2-7os. Then how would you play the hand(assume that for some reason I tried to bluff preflop to get myself in that position)? One pair on the flop is not a monster even if that pair is AA.
Im a little confused by your request. You are saying that UTG I raise to steal the blinds. I get called by 2 behind. I bluff again into the 2 callers with a very weak bet. EP calls and LP raises.I fold.

I guess Im confused to the situation.

One part of my game I have been working on is EP and turn play where I am the aggressor. I think a lot of money is won and lost in these areas and I think your hand is a good illustrator of it.

You raised PF from EP which means in theory you want to push out crappy draws. You get two callers and a somewhat ragged flop. You weak c-bet, 1 caller and 1 raiser. I smell steal from LP.

For me, there are two types of bets/raises:

- Bets to get you to call

- Bets to get you to fold

I see LPs bet as one to get you to fold. EPs now, well, I think it was one to get you to call. This tells me he has a hand, it doesnt tell me his hand is better than mine though.
It very well could be a steal from LP. The problem is that not only do I have to be correct about that, but I also have to hope that the EP caller doesn't have a set or 2 pair, and his smooth call is scary. Furthermore, I have to be correct more than 50% of the time in order for this to work since I'm looking at losing a lot more than I'll win when I'm right. If LP is going to make these kind of steal attempts against me, then I'll wait until I really do have a monster and crush him. I see no reason to not believe people when I'm out of position. Folding the winning hand is often a small mistake. Calling with the worst hand is often a huge mistake.
I agree 100%. I also dont think having a monster is the only way to make money in NLHE. What makes this hand so intriquing is that villians are putting in close to 1/3 their stacks in a hand where its possible they put you on absolutely nothing when in fact you have a very strong hand.
 
Here is one more.  Was this guy a complete idiot or is it just me.

***** Hand History for Game 3734322467 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 17:58:38 ET 2006

Table Table  95442 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 9 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 6: YahtzeeH ( $4004.50 )

Seat 7: athorn10 ( $1869.50 )

Seat 5: Strumey ( $618 )

Seat 10: pit540540 ( $2227.18 )

Seat 4: thorladen ( $3375.40 )

Seat 8: Pokerator___ ( $2554 )

Seat 2: kingrbb ( $1034 )

Seat 1: Razor_Edge ( $2077 )

Seat 3: frank7378747 ( $1917.78 )

Seat 9: josshouse ( $2027 )

pit540540 posts small blind [$10].

Razor_Edge posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to Strumey [  As Jc ]

kingrbb folds.

frank7378747 folds.

thorladen folds.

Strumey raises [$60].

athorn10 folds.

Pokerator___ calls [$60].

josshouse folds.

pit540540 folds.

Razor_Edge folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Jd, 4h ]

Strumey bets [$70].

Pokerator___ calls [$70].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]

Strumey bets [$125].

Pokerator___ calls [$125].

** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]

Strumey bets [$182.33].

Pokerator___ raises [$364.66].

Strumey: why do I know you have 55

Strumey is all-In  [$180.67]

Pokerator___ shows [ 5s, 5d ] a straight, two to six.

Strumey shows [ As, Jc ] a pair of jacks.

Pokerator___ wins $1.66 from  side pot #1  with a straight, two to six.

Pokerator___ wins $1263 from  the main pot  with a straight, two to six.

kingrbb has left the table.
I actually like the way he played. Unless you have a pocket there's a good chance you didn't hit the flop, and he hits a great card on the turn. On the flop he had to call $70 into a $220 pot. On the turn he had to call 125 into a $415 pot. He played this hand very well imo.
Bets are way too small here. 2/3-3/4 of the pot should be standard.
Agreed. After reading back through the hand, I allowed him to hang around. :hot:
 
Day 33

3/13/06

Feeling very good about myself after last night's session. 9:00 now. Going to be playing in both $162 MTTs and 2 ring games for now.

Nice flop.

***** Hand History for Game 3735941485 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 00:10:53 ET 2006

Table Table 96042 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 7 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: will719 ( $3721.37 )

Seat 2: DITTO333 ( $1910 )

Seat 3: paddy56 ( $1243.97 )

Seat 5: kraisey ( $3267.72 )

Seat 6: AAROCKAA ( $2634 )

Seat 7: josshouse ( $1864.77 )

Seat 8: Roland62 ( $2143.14 )

Seat 10: toolittle111 ( $2000 )

Seat 4: AssaniFisher ( $1980 )

Seat 9: CMRIGGS ( $2000 )

Roland62 posts small blind [$10].

CMRIGGS posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ah Jh ]

toolittle111 calls [$20].

will719 folds.

DITTO333 folds.

paddy56 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$20].

kraisey folds.

AAROCKAA folds.

josshouse folds.

Roland62 calls [$10].

CMRIGGS checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Jc, Ad ]

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Roland62 checks.

CMRIGGS checks.

toolittle111 checks.

AssaniFisher checks.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]

Roland62 checks.

CMRIGGS bets [$50].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

toolittle111 calls [$50].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

AssaniFisher raises [$150].

Roland62 folds.

>You have options at Super Monday(630014) Table #71 Table!.

CMRIGGS folds.

toolittle111 calls [$100].

** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]

toolittle111 checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$225].

toolittle111 folds.

AssaniFisher does not show cards.

AssaniFisher wins $652

What am I doing here? I need to fold on the flop.

***** Hand History for Game 3736121339 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 00:30:30 ET 2006

Table Table 96042 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 6 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: will719 ( $3905.37 )

Seat 2: DITTO333 ( $1960 )

Seat 3: paddy56 ( $1406.97 )

Seat 5: kraisey ( $3951.72 )

Seat 6: AAROCKAA ( $2080 )

Seat 7: josshouse ( $1890 )

Seat 8: Roland62 ( $1803.14 )

Seat 10: toolittle111 ( $4078 )

Seat 4: AssaniFisher ( $2062 )

Seat 9: CMRIGGS ( $1880 )

josshouse posts small blind [$10].

Roland62 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ah Th ]

CMRIGGS folds.

toolittle111 folds.

will719 folds.

DITTO333 folds.

paddy56 folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

AssaniFisher raises [$65].

kraisey folds.

AAROCKAA raises [$155].

josshouse folds.

Roland62 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$90].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Jc, Ad ]

>You have options at Super Monday(630014) Table #71 Table!.

AssaniFisher checks.

>You have options at Super Monday(630014) Table #71 Table!.

AAROCKAA bets [$155].

AssaniFisher calls [$155].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]

>You have options at Super Monday(630014) Table #71 Table!.

AssaniFisher checks.

AAROCKAA bets [$255].

AssaniFisher calls [$255].

** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]

AssaniFisher checks.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

AAROCKAA bets [$750].

AssaniFisher folds.

AAROCKAA does not show cards.

AAROCKAA wins $1907

>You have options at Super Monday(630014) Table #71 Table!.

LOL. Nice river bet.

***** Hand History for Game 3736150091 *****

NL Texas Hold'em Trny:20998002 Level:2 Blinds(30/60) - Monday, March 13, 00:33:43 ET 2006

Table Super Monday(630014) Table #71 (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: jeebhonkers ( $6055 )

Seat 2: Rogen ( $15511 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $5160 )

Seat 4: shawbrother ( $5090 )

Seat 5: SEBI444 ( $4425 )

Seat 7: SurreyBoss ( $6151 )

Seat 8: onlykiller ( $4030 )

Seat 9: niztoc21 ( $4150 )

Seat 10: spicoli ( $5550 )

Seat 6: rocky482 ( $5490 )

Trny:20998002 Level:2

Blinds(30/60)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Jd Jh ]

onlykiller folds.

niztoc21 folds.

spicoli folds.

jeebhonkers folds.

Rogen raises [220].

AssaniFisher calls [220].

shawbrother folds.

SEBI444 calls [220].

rocky482 folds.

SurreyBoss calls [160].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 9h, Qc ]

SurreyBoss checks.

Rogen checks.

AssaniFisher bets [300].

SEBI444 folds.

SurreyBoss folds.

Rogen calls [300].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]

Rogen checks.

AssaniFisher checks.

** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]

Rogen bets [3000].

AssaniFisher folds.

Rogen does not show cards.

Rogen wins 4510 chips

I had a read on this guy that said he was terrible. And once already tonight he had limped from relative EP(but not UTG) and then re raised when I raised. I called it that first time, he made a really weak continuation bet, and I laid it down. Against a normal opponent, I would never had played this so strongly preflop. I was shocked to see his cards this time.

***** Hand History for Game 3736201121 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 00:39:25 ET 2006

Table San Marino (Real Money)

Seat 8 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 3: DunleavyIll ( $1696.75 )

Seat 5: beezeeman ( $383 )

Seat 6: robert07 ( $2000 )

Seat 7: redtommy05 ( $805.50 )

Seat 8: PVanInwagen ( $4308.75 )

Seat 9: Hunterelk ( $847 )

Seat 10: AssaniFisher ( $1925 )

Seat 4: pokerwerx ( $3498 )

Seat 2: imnotthe_guy ( $580 )

Seat 1: binda ( $2000 )

Hunterelk posts small blind [$10].

AssaniFisher posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ad Kd ]

imnotthe_guy folds.

DunleavyIll calls [$20].

pokerwerx calls [$20].

beezeeman folds.

robert07 folds.

redtommy05 calls [$20].

PVanInwagen folds.

Hunterelk calls [$10].

AssaniFisher raises [$105].

DunleavyIll folds.

pokerwerx raises [$260].

redtommy05 folds.

Hunterelk folds.

AssaniFisher raises [$885].

>You have options at Super Monday(630014) Table #71 Table!.

>You have options at Super Monday(630014) Table #71 Table!.

pokerwerx calls [$730].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 7d, 5s ]

AssaniFisher is all-In [$915]

pokerwerx calls [$915].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]

** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]

AssaniFisher shows [ Ad, Kd ] two pairs, sevens and fives.

pokerwerx shows [ 4s, 6c ] two pairs, sevens and fives.

AssaniFisher wins $3907 from the main pot with two pairs, sevens and fives with ace kicker.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

Seriously, I love this guy.

***** Hand History for Game 3736289647 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 00:49:32 ET 2006

Table San Marino (Real Money)

Seat 4 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 5: beezeeman ( $321.50 )

Seat 6: robert07 ( $1892 )

Seat 7: redtommy05 ( $840.50 )

Seat 8: PVanInwagen ( $4023.75 )

Seat 9: Hunterelk ( $1250.97 )

Seat 10: AssaniFisher ( $3917 )

Seat 4: pokerwerx ( $2362 )

Seat 2: imnotthe_guy ( $548.50 )

Seat 3: cheo001 ( $880 )

Seat 1: Starlight777 ( $1930 )

beezeeman is sitting out.

robert07 posts small blind [$10].

redtommy05 posts big blind [$20].

cheo001 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Jd Jc ]

PVanInwagen folds.

Hunterelk folds.

AssaniFisher raises [$85].

Starlight777 folds.

imnotthe_guy folds.

cheo001 folds.

pokerwerx raises [$225].

robert07 folds.

redtommy05 folds.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher raises [$1330].

pokerwerx is all-In [$2137]

AssaniFisher calls [$947].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, Kd, Qh ]

** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]

** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]

AssaniFisher shows [ Jd, Jc ] a pair of jacks.

pokerwerx shows [ 8d, 7s ] a pair of sevens.

AssaniFisher wins $4771 from the main pot with a pair of jacks.

pokerwerx has left the table.

Nice early start to the tourney.

PokerStars Game #4279902998: Tournament #21184503, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/03/13 - 21:51:33 (ET)

Table '21184503 39' Seat #2 is the button

Seat 1: slimshaggy (1360 in chips)

Seat 2: Shiko21 (5600 in chips)

Seat 3: Stacy99 (2305 in chips)

Seat 4: What Be That (2925 in chips)

Seat 5: jwvdcw (1735 in chips)

Seat 6: patteman1 (860 in chips)

Seat 7: famer0000 (2280 in chips)

Seat 9: Mrmzlplx (360 in chips)

Stacy99: posts small blind 25

What Be That: posts big blind 50

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [Kh Ah]

jwvdcw: raises 100 to 150

patteman1: folds

famer0000: calls 150

Mrmzlplx: folds

slimshaggy: folds

Shiko21: calls 150

Stacy99: folds

What Be That: folds

*** FLOP *** [7s Ts As]

kenny05 is connected

jwvdcw: bets 250

famer0000: calls 250

Shiko21: calls 250

*** TURN *** [7s Ts As] [9c]

jwvdcw: bets 800

famer0000: folds

Shiko21: folds

jwvdcw collected 1275 from pot

jwvdcw: doesn't show hand

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 1275 | Rake 0

Board [7s Ts As 9c]

Seat 1: slimshaggy folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: Shiko21 (button) folded on the Turn

Seat 3: Stacy99 (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 4: What Be That (big blind) folded before Flop

Seat 5: jwvdcw collected (1275)

Seat 6: patteman1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: famer0000 folded on the Turn

Seat 9: Mrmzlplx folded before Flop (didn't bet)

First break at Party. I'm at 5100, average is 7000, 749 out of 1062 people left.

First break at Stars. I'm at 2500, average is 2900, 292 out of 566 people left.

Nice. 3rd pot I've stolen since break...working my way up.

***** Hand History for Game 3736540666 *****

NL Texas Hold'em Trny:20998002 Level:4 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, March 13, 01:18:01 ET 2006

Table Super Monday(630014) Table #33 (Real Money)

Seat 9 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: ucantcalthat ( $5513 )

Seat 2: MDM06 ( $8448 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $6760 )

Seat 4: blackblazer ( $17118 )

Seat 5: comebackid14 ( $8562 )

Seat 6: Swagger2005 ( $3107 )

Seat 7: kindestbud ( $6649 )

Seat 8: nutpair ( $6118 )

Seat 9: bigjim ( $10400 )

Seat 10: GG_Unit1 ( $3685 )

Trny:20998002 Level:4

Blinds(100/200)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 9h 9s ]

MDM06 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [200].

blackblazer folds.

comebackid14 folds.

Swagger2005 folds.

kindestbud folds.

nutpair folds.

bigjim folds.

GG_Unit1 folds.

ucantcalthat checks.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Ah, Qh ]

ucantcalthat bets [200].

AssaniFisher raises [625].

ucantcalthat folds.

AssaniFisher does not show cards.

AssaniFisher wins 1325 chips

66. LOL. Some people make me laugh.

***** Hand History for Game 3736593146 *****

NL Texas Hold'em Trny:20998002 Level:4 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, March 13, 01:23:45 ET 2006

Table Super Monday(630014) Table #33 (Real Money)

Seat 8 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: ucantcalthat ( $5013 )

Seat 2: MDM06 ( $8748 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $7860 )

Seat 4: blackblazer ( $18218 )

Seat 5: comebackid14 ( $8262 )

Seat 6: Swagger2005 ( $2207 )

Seat 7: kindestbud ( $6649 )

Seat 8: nutpair ( $5618 )

Seat 9: bigjim ( $10200 )

Seat 10: GG_Unit1 ( $3585 )

Trny:20998002 Level:4

Blinds(100/200)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Jd Td ]

ucantcalthat folds.

MDM06 calls [200].

AssaniFisher calls [200].

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

blackblazer is all-In [18218]

comebackid14 folds.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

Swagger2005 is all-In [2207]

kindestbud folds.

nutpair folds.

bigjim folds.

GG_Unit1 folds.

MDM06 folds.

AssaniFisher folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, Jh, Tc ]

** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]

** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]

blackblazer shows [ 6c, 6d ] two pairs, tens and sixes.

Swagger2005 shows [ 7c, 7d ] a full house, Sevens full of tens.

blackblazer wins 16011 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, tens and sixes.

Swagger2005 wins 5114 chips from the main pot with a full house, Sevens full of tens.

Was a tough laydown because I would've had position on the raiser, but I don't feel like getting involved for a pot that big right now.

***** Hand History for Game 3736606095 *****

NL Texas Hold'em Trny:20998002 Level:4 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, March 13, 01:25:11 ET 2006

Table Super Monday(630014) Table #33 (Real Money)

Seat 10 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: ucantcalthat ( $4813 )

Seat 2: MDM06 ( $8848 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $7660 )

Seat 4: blackblazer ( $16011 )

Seat 5: comebackid14 ( $8262 )

Seat 6: Swagger2005 ( $5114 )

Seat 7: kindestbud ( $6649 )

Seat 8: nutpair ( $5618 )

Seat 9: bigjim ( $10100 )

Seat 10: GG_Unit1 ( $3285 )

Trny:20998002 Level:4

Blinds(100/200)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Kd As ]

AssaniFisher raises [625].

blackblazer folds.

comebackid14 folds.

Swagger2005 folds.

kindestbud folds.

nutpair folds.

bigjim calls [625].

GG_Unit1 folds.

ucantcalthat folds.

MDM06 raises [1850].

AssaniFisher folds.

bigjim calls [1425].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 6c, 6h ]

MDM06 bets [2425].

bigjim folds.

MDM06 does not show cards.

MDM06 wins 7250 chips

A much needed double up.

PokerStars Game #4280665360: Tournament #21184503, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/03/13 - 22:44:32 (ET)

Table '21184503 39' Seat #4 is the button

Seat 1: Crazyhug (1395 in chips)

Seat 2: Silvrbak (3125 in chips)

Seat 3: Stacy99 (6630 in chips)

Seat 4: What Be That (2715 in chips)

Seat 5: jwvdcw (1440 in chips)

Seat 6: patteman1 (4560 in chips)

Seat 7: famer0000 (6870 in chips)

Seat 8: Suited-Hooks (3890 in chips)

Seat 9: trevrocket (3060 in chips)

jwvdcw: posts small blind 100

patteman1: posts big blind 200

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [6h 6c]

famer0000: folds

Suited-Hooks: folds

trevrocket: folds

famer0000 said, "nh buddy - trev"

Crazyhug: folds

Silvrbak: raises 400 to 600

Stacy99: folds

What Be That: folds

trevrocket said, "no chioce thanks"

jwvdcw: calls 500

patteman1: folds

*** FLOP *** [7d Qs 4d]

trevrocket said, "choice"

jwvdcw: bets 840 and is all-in

Silvrbak: calls 840

*** TURN *** [7d Qs 4d] [Kc]

*** RIVER *** [7d Qs 4d Kc] [4c]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

jwvdcw: shows [6h 6c] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)

Silvrbak: shows [Th Ac] (a pair of Fours)

jwvdcw collected 3080 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 3080 | Rake 0

Board [7d Qs 4d Kc 4c]

Seat 1: Crazyhug folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: Silvrbak showed [Th Ac] and lost with a pair of Fours

Seat 3: Stacy99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: What Be That (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: jwvdcw (small blind) showed [6h 6c] and won (3080) with two pair, Sixes and Fours

Seat 6: patteman1 (big blind) folded before Flop

Seat 7: famer0000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 8: Suited-Hooks folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 9: trevrocket folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Ahh!!!!

***** Hand History for Game 3736838660 *****

NL Texas Hold'em Trny:20998002 Level:6 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, March 13, 01:50:50 ET 2006

Table Super Monday(630014) Table #33 (Real Money)

Seat 2 is the button

Total number of players : 9

Seat 1: ucantcalthat ( $7426 )

Seat 2: MDM06 ( $13448 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $6085 )

Seat 4: blackblazer ( $10384 )

Seat 5: comebackid14 ( $9212 )

Seat 7: kindestbud ( $8199 )

Seat 8: nutpair ( $3866 )

Seat 9: bigjim ( $15821 )

Seat 6: SillyWillie4 ( $7918 )

Trny:20998002 Level:6

Blinds(200/400)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Kc Ks ]

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

HappyYouYou has joined the table.

Player HappyYouYou has been moved from table 46 to this table

comebackid14 could not respond in time.(disconnected)

comebackid14 folds.

SillyWillie4 calls [400].

kindestbud folds.

nutpair folds.

bigjim folds.

ucantcalthat folds.

MDM06 folds.

AssaniFisher raises [1200].

blackblazer folds.

SillyWillie4 calls [1000].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Ad, 4h ]

AssaniFisher bets [1425].

SillyWillie4 is all-In [6518]

AssaniFisher folds.

SillyWillie4 does not show cards.

SillyWillie4 wins 11143 chips

AQ all in preflop, called by 88. I lost and am out of Party.

Wow...second 50/50 I've won here on Stars!

PokerStars Game #4280903468: Tournament #21184503, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/03/13 - 23:00:58 (ET)

Table '21184503 39' Seat #3 is the button

Seat 1: Crazyhug (2390 in chips)

Seat 2: happymann (10705 in chips)

Seat 3: Stacy99 (5510 in chips)

Seat 4: What Be That (3475 in chips)

Seat 5: jwvdcw (2470 in chips)

Seat 6: patteman1 (3530 in chips)

Seat 7: famer0000 (12420 in chips)

Seat 8: Suited-Hooks (4540 in chips)

Crazyhug: posts the ante 10

happymann: posts the ante 10

Stacy99: posts the ante 10

What Be That: posts the ante 10

jwvdcw: posts the ante 10

patteman1: posts the ante 10

famer0000: posts the ante 10

Suited-Hooks: posts the ante 10

What Be That: posts small blind 100

jwvdcw: posts big blind 200

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [7s 7d]

patteman1: folds

famer0000: raises 200 to 400

Suited-Hooks: folds

Crazyhug: folds

happymann: folds

Stacy99: folds

What Be That: folds

jwvdcw: raises 1000 to 1400

famer0000: calls 1000

*** FLOP *** [9s 9c Ks]

jwvdcw: bets 1060 and is all-in

famer0000: calls 1060

*** TURN *** [9s 9c Ks] [8d]

*** RIVER *** [9s 9c Ks 8d] [Js]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

jwvdcw: shows [7s 7d] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)

famer0000: shows [Qc Ac] (a pair of Nines)

jwvdcw collected 5100 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 5100 | Rake 0

Board [9s 9c Ks 8d Js]

Seat 1: Crazyhug folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: happymann folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: Stacy99 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: What Be That (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 5: jwvdcw (big blind) showed [7s 7d] and won (5100) with two pair, Nines and Sevens

Seat 6: patteman1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: famer0000 showed [Qc Ac] and lost with a pair of Nines

Seat 8: Suited-Hooks folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Meh.

PokerStars Game #4281031502: Tournament #21184503, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2006/03/13 - 23:09:34 (ET)

Table '21184503 39' Seat #7 is the button

Seat 1: Crazyhug (1780 in chips)

Seat 2: happymann (11842 in chips)

Seat 3: Stacy99 (4900 in chips)

Seat 4: What Be That (3335 in chips)

Seat 5: jwvdcw (4635 in chips)

Seat 7: famer0000 (15780 in chips)

Seat 8: Suited-Hooks (7485 in chips)

Seat 9: AaronBeen (3690 in chips)

Crazyhug: posts the ante 15

happymann: posts the ante 15

Stacy99: posts the ante 15

What Be That: posts the ante 15

jwvdcw: posts the ante 15

famer0000: posts the ante 15

Suited-Hooks: posts the ante 15

AaronBeen: posts the ante 15

Suited-Hooks: posts small blind 150

AaronBeen: posts big blind 300

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [Th Ac]

Crazyhug: folds

happymann: folds

Stacy99: folds

What Be That: folds

jwvdcw: raises 600 to 900

famer0000: calls 900

Suited-Hooks: folds

AaronBeen: folds

*** FLOP *** [Qc Qd 7c]

jwvdcw: checks

famer0000: bets 3000

jwvdcw: folds

famer0000 collected 2370 from pot

famer0000: doesn't show hand

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 2370 | Rake 0

Board [Qc Qd 7c]

Seat 1: Crazyhug folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: happymann folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: Stacy99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: What Be That folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: jwvdcw folded on the Flop

Seat 7: famer0000 (button) collected (2370)

Seat 8: Suited-Hooks (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 9: AaronBeen (big blind) folded before Flop

I think we had the same hand.

***** Hand History for Game 3737033804 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 02:12:09 ET 2006

Table Table 96042 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 3: paddy56 ( $3554 )

Seat 6: AAROCKAA ( $4883.52 )

Seat 8: Roland62 ( $3547.19 )

Seat 10: toolittle111 ( $2122.14 )

Seat 4: AssaniFisher ( $1980 )

Seat 2: slothr0p ( $2071 )

Seat 1: Gamble4You ( $2264.50 )

Seat 7: jackdeuce777 ( $370 )

Seat 9: equityhound ( $2967.50 )

Seat 5: morello05 ( $1960 )

AAROCKAA posts small blind [$10].

jackdeuce777 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ac Kc ]

Roland62 folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

equityhound calls [$20].

toolittle111 folds.

Gamble4You folds.

slothr0p raises [$90].

paddy56 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$90].

morello05 folds.

AAROCKAA folds.

jackdeuce777 folds.

equityhound folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Kd, 8s ]

slothr0p checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$150].

slothr0p raises [$375].

AssaniFisher folds.

slothr0p does not show cards.

slothr0p wins $752

Luck ran out.

PokerStars Game #4281114576: Tournament #21184503, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2006/03/13 - 23:15:15 (ET)

Table '21184503 39' Seat #7 is the button

Seat 1: Crazyhug (3950 in chips)

Seat 2: happymann (10657 in chips)

Seat 4: What Be That (3035 in chips)

Seat 5: jwvdcw (3150 in chips)

Seat 6: MENTOR 2 (6631 in chips)

Seat 7: famer0000 (17400 in chips)

Seat 8: Suited-Hooks (8220 in chips)

Seat 9: AaronBeen (2675 in chips)

Crazyhug: posts the ante 15

happymann: posts the ante 15

What Be That: posts the ante 15

jwvdcw: posts the ante 15

MENTOR 2: posts the ante 15

famer0000: posts the ante 15

Suited-Hooks: posts the ante 15

AaronBeen: posts the ante 15

Suited-Hooks: posts small blind 150

AaronBeen: posts big blind 300

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [Kh As]

Crazyhug: folds

happymann: folds

What Be That: raises 600 to 900

jwvdcw: raises 2235 to 3135 and is all-in

MENTOR 2: folds

famer0000: raises 2235 to 5370

Suited-Hooks: folds

AaronBeen: folds

What Be That: folds

*** FLOP *** [6c 9d 8s]

*** TURN *** [6c 9d 8s] [9c]

*** RIVER *** [6c 9d 8s 9c] [Jc]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

jwvdcw: shows [Kh As] (a pair of Nines)

famer0000: shows [Qd Qc] (two pair, Queens and Nines)

famer0000 collected 7740 from pot

atlhooker is connected

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 7740 | Rake 0

Board [6c 9d 8s 9c Jc]

Seat 1: Crazyhug folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: happymann folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: What Be That folded before Flop

Seat 5: jwvdcw showed [Kh As] and lost with a pair of Nines

Seat 6: MENTOR 2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: famer0000 (button) showed [Qd Qc] and won (7740) with two pair, Queens and Nines

Seat 8: Suited-Hooks (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 9: AaronBeen (big blind) folded before Flop

Hate when I hit a marginal hand when trying to steal.

***** Hand History for Game 3737099755 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 02:19:12 ET 2006

Table San Marino (Real Money)

Seat 3 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 8: PVanInwagen ( $2306 )

Seat 10: AssaniFisher ( $5499.67 )

Seat 2: imnotthe_guy ( $413.50 )

Seat 9: toolittle111 ( $2209.50 )

Seat 7: slothr0p ( $2037 )

Seat 6: Sappy321 ( $6096 )

Seat 3: kingpin1_1 ( $2636.53 )

Seat 5: DaringDuck ( $2099 )

Seat 1: cballs25 ( $1899.40 )

Seat 4: NMcNasty ( $2007.50 )

NMcNasty posts small blind [$10].

Sappy321 is sitting out.

slothr0p posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Td 8d ]

PVanInwagen folds.

toolittle111 folds.

AssaniFisher raises [$65].

cballs25 folds.

imnotthe_guy folds.

kingpin1_1 folds.

NMcNasty calls [$55].

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

slothr0p folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 4h, 9s ]

NMcNasty checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$95].

NMcNasty calls [$95].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]

NMcNasty checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$200].

NMcNasty calls [$200].

** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]

NMcNasty bets [$300].

AssaniFisher folds.

NMcNasty does not show cards.

NMcNasty wins $1037

If it weren't for those two hands with pokerwerx, this would be a pretty bad night so far.

***** Hand History for Game 3737277086 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 02:39:15 ET 2006

Table Table 95962 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 6 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Juggernaut_9 ( $2000 )

Seat 2: jmtrd ( $1750 )

Seat 4: donkyman40 ( $1326 )

Seat 6: pokerwerx ( $2244 )

Seat 8: AAROCKAA ( $1940 )

Seat 9: Moneemakur ( $370 )

Seat 10: PrtyIsRigged ( $1950 )

Seat 3: MILOofCROTON ( $2000 )

Seat 7: AssaniFisher ( $1940 )

Seat 5: samson787 ( $2000 )

AssaniFisher posts small blind [$10].

AAROCKAA posts big blind [$20].

samson787 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ad Kc ]

Moneemakur folds.

PrtyIsRigged folds.

Juggernaut_9 calls [$20].

jmtrd folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

MILOofCROTON folds.

donkyman40 raises [$40].

samson787 folds.

pokerwerx folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher raises [$145].

AAROCKAA folds.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

Juggernaut_9 folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

donkyman40 calls [$115].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, Js, 6c ]

AssaniFisher bets [$200].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

donkyman40 raises [$436.71].

AssaniFisher folds.

donkyman40 does not show cards.

donkyman40 wins $1003.71

I tracked him down and sat with him....looks like hes still at it, lol.

***** Hand History for Game 3737303658 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 02:42:21 ET 2006

Table Table 95962 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 9 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Juggernaut_9 ( $2077 )

Seat 2: jmtrd ( $1750 )

Seat 4: donkyman40 ( $1738 )

Seat 6: pokerwerx ( $2184 )

Seat 8: AAROCKAA ( $1695 )

Seat 9: Moneemakur ( $380 )

Seat 10: PrtyIsRigged ( $1930 )

Seat 3: MILOofCROTON ( $2000 )

Seat 7: AssaniFisher ( $2000 )

Seat 5: samson787 ( $2212 )

PrtyIsRigged posts small blind [$10].

Juggernaut_9 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 3c 4c ]

jmtrd folds.

MILOofCROTON folds.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

donkyman40 folds.

samson787 raises [$70].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

pokerwerx raises [$220].

AssaniFisher folds.

AAROCKAA calls [$220].

Moneemakur folds.

PrtyIsRigged folds.

Juggernaut_9 folds.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

samson787 calls [$150].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 9h, Th ]

samson787 checks.

pokerwerx bets [$275].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AAROCKAA raises [$550].

samson787 folds.

pokerwerx raises [$550].

AAROCKAA calls [$275].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

pokerwerx is all-In [$1139]

AAROCKAA is all-In [$650]

** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]

pokerwerx shows [ 5c, 6h ] high card jack.

AAROCKAA shows [ 7h, 7s ] a straight, seven to jack.

pokerwerx wins $489 from side pot #1 with high card jack.

AAROCKAA wins $3637 from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.

The very next hand...glad he won.

***** Hand History for Game 3737317469 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 02:43:57 ET 2006

Table Table 95962 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 10 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Juggernaut_9 ( $2057 )

Seat 2: jmtrd ( $1750 )

Seat 4: donkyman40 ( $1738 )

Seat 6: pokerwerx ( $489 )

Seat 8: AAROCKAA ( $3637 )

Seat 9: Moneemakur ( $380 )

Seat 10: PrtyIsRigged ( $1920 )

Seat 3: MILOofCROTON ( $2000 )

Seat 7: AssaniFisher ( $2000 )

Seat 5: samson787 ( $1992 )

Juggernaut_9 posts small blind [$10].

jmtrd posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 9h Kh ]

MILOofCROTON folds.

donkyman40 raises [$40].

samson787 raises [$100].

pokerwerx is all-In [$489]

AssaniFisher folds.

AAROCKAA folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Moneemakur folds.

PrtyIsRigged folds.

Juggernaut_9 folds.

jmtrd folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

donkyman40 folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

samson787 calls [$389].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 7h, 3c ]

** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]

** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

samson787 shows [ Kd, Ah ] high card ace.

pokerwerx shows [ 4d, 6s ] a straight, three to seven.

pokerwerx wins $1045 from the main pot with a straight, three to seven.

And the next hand.

***** Hand History for Game 3737324418 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 02:44:45 ET 2006

Table Table 95962 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 1 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Juggernaut_9 ( $2047 )

Seat 2: jmtrd ( $1730 )

Seat 4: donkyman40 ( $1698 )

Seat 6: pokerwerx ( $1045 )

Seat 8: AAROCKAA ( $3637 )

Seat 9: Moneemakur ( $380 )

Seat 10: PrtyIsRigged ( $1920 )

Seat 3: MILOofCROTON ( $2000 )

Seat 7: AssaniFisher ( $2000 )

Seat 5: samson787 ( $1503 )

jmtrd posts small blind [$10].

MILOofCROTON posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 2d 8h ]

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

donkyman40 raises [$40].

samson787 folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

pokerwerx is all-In [$1045]

AssaniFisher folds.

AAROCKAA folds.

Moneemakur folds.

PrtyIsRigged folds.

Juggernaut_9 folds.

jmtrd folds.

MILOofCROTON folds.

donkyman40 folds.

pokerwerx does not show cards.

pokerwerx wins $1115

Damnit, hes gone now!

***** Hand History for Game 3737335833 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 02:46:06 ET 2006

Table Table 95962 (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 3 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Juggernaut_9 ( $2047 )

Seat 2: jmtrd ( $1700 )

Seat 4: donkyman40 ( $1735 )

Seat 6: pokerwerx ( $1095 )

Seat 8: AAROCKAA ( $3637 )

Seat 9: Moneemakur ( $360 )

Seat 10: PrtyIsRigged ( $1920 )

Seat 3: MILOofCROTON ( $1960 )

Seat 7: AssaniFisher ( $2000 )

Seat 5: samson787 ( $1503 )

donkyman40 posts small blind [$10].

samson787 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 5h 7c ]

pokerwerx calls [$20].

AssaniFisher folds.

AAROCKAA folds.

Moneemakur folds.

PrtyIsRigged folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Juggernaut_9 raises [$90].

jmtrd folds.

MILOofCROTON folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

donkyman40 did not respond in time.

donkyman40 folds.

samson787 calls [$70].

pokerwerx calls [$70].

** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, Qs, 8c ]

samson787 bets [$150].

pokerwerx raises [$300].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

Juggernaut_9 raises [$600].

samson787 is all-In [$1263]

pokerwerx is all-In [$705]

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Juggernaut_9 folds.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]

** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

samson787 shows [ Ac, Qh ] two pairs, aces and queens.

pokerwerx doesn't show [ Td, Ks ] a pair of fives.

samson787 wins $408 from side pot #1 with two pairs, aces and queens.

samson787 wins $2887 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and queens.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Terrible turn, beautiful river.

***** Hand History for Game 3737346728 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 02:47:23 ET 2006

Table Cann River (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 1 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Moneemakur ( $350 )

Seat 2: jmtrd ( $3216.39 )

Seat 3: dannyboy4353 ( $737 )

Seat 4: Neonbros123 ( $294.75 )

Seat 5: frank7378747 ( $355 )

Seat 7: morello05 ( $2509.50 )

Seat 8: lancealot1 ( $3384.50 )

Seat 10: SamJack ( $781 )

Seat 9: AssaniFisher ( $1893.75 )

Seat 6: carsonsdaddy ( $0 )

jmtrd posts small blind [$10].

dannyboy4353 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Qd Qs ]

Neonbros123 folds.

carsonsdaddy has left the table.

frank7378747 folds.

morello05 folds.

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

lancealot1 folds.

AssaniFisher raises [$65].

SamJack raises [$110].

toolittle111 has joined the table.

Moneemakur folds.

jmtrd folds.

dannyboy4353 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$45].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Jd, 4s ]

AssaniFisher checks.

SamJack bets [$90].

AssaniFisher calls [$90].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]

>You have options at Table 95962 (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher checks.

SamJack bets [$70].

AssaniFisher calls [$70].

** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher bets [$200].

SamJack is all-In [$511]

AssaniFisher calls [$311].

AssaniFisher shows [ Qd, Qs ] a full house, Queens full of jacks.

SamJack doesn't show [ Jc, Ad ] a full house, Jacks full of fours.

AssaniFisher wins $1589 from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of jacks.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

Neonbros123 has left the table.

Feared 5-8 or I would've pushed. Damn...I really should've pushed.

***** Hand History for Game 3737461799 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 03:01:29 ET 2006

Table Cann River (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 3 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Moneemakur ( $415 )

Seat 2: jmtrd ( $3133.89 )

Seat 3: dannyboy4353 ( $870 )

Seat 5: frank7378747 ( $437 )

Seat 7: morello05 ( $2613.50 )

Seat 8: lancealot1 ( $3878.50 )

Seat 10: SamJack ( $592.78 )

Seat 9: AssaniFisher ( $2566.75 )

Seat 6: toolittle111 ( $1990 )

Seat 4: Sappy321 ( $1990 )

frank7378747 posts small blind [$10].

toolittle111 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 5c 4c ]

morello05 folds.

lancealot1 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$20].

SamJack folds.

Moneemakur folds.

jmtrd folds.

dannyboy4353 calls [$20].

frank7378747 calls [$10].

toolittle111 checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 3s, 7h ]

frank7378747 checks.

toolittle111 checks.

AssaniFisher checks.

dannyboy4353 checks.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]

frank7378747 checks.

toolittle111 bets [$55].

Sappy321 has left the table.

AssaniFisher raises [$135].

>You have options at Table 95962 (No DP) Table!.

dannyboy4353 calls [$135].

frank7378747 folds.

toolittle111 folds.

** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]

AssaniFisher bets [$150].

dannyboy4353 raises [$300].

jimmyvegas71 has joined the table.

AssaniFisher calls [$150].

dannyboy4353 shows [ 6h, 6c ] three of a kind, sixes.

AssaniFisher shows [ 5c, 4c ] a straight, three to seven.

AssaniFisher wins $1002 from the main pot with a straight, three to seven.

SamJack has left the table.

Wish I won more, but I'll take it. Was hoping for a huge check raise on the flop.

***** Hand History for Game 3737564557 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 03:13:41 ET 2006

Table San Marino (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 9

Seat 10: AssaniFisher ( $4836.67 )

Seat 2: imnotthe_guy ( $506.50 )

Seat 9: toolittle111 ( $3218 )

Seat 7: slothr0p ( $3979 )

Seat 5: DaringDuck ( $2094 )

Seat 3: Juggernaut_9 ( $2461 )

Seat 8: madmanvep ( $545 )

Seat 1: bigbetjim ( $2000 )

Seat 6: kingred ( $1980 )

kingred posts small blind [$10].

slothr0p posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ac Qc ]

madmanvep folds.

toolittle111 raises [$65].

AssaniFisher calls [$65].

imnotthe_guy folds.

Juggernaut_9 raises [$200].

DaringDuck folds.

kingred folds.

slothr0p folds.

toolittle111 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$135].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Jc, Td ]

AssaniFisher checks.

>You have options at Table 95962 (No DP) Table!.

Juggernaut_9 checks.

** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]

AssaniFisher checks.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Juggernaut_9 checks.

** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]

AssaniFisher bets [$275].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Juggernaut_9 calls [$275].

AssaniFisher shows [ Ac, Qc ] a straight, ten to ace.

Juggernaut_9 doesn't show [ Kh, As ] two pairs, kings and fives.

AssaniFisher wins $1042 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.

Another big laydown.

***** Hand History for Game 3737681247 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 03:28:11 ET 2006

Table Cann River (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 9

Seat 1: Moneemakur ( $370 )

Seat 2: jmtrd ( $5543.89 )

Seat 7: morello05 ( $3140.50 )

Seat 8: lancealot1 ( $4103.50 )

Seat 9: AssaniFisher ( $2983.75 )

Seat 10: Gus_C ( $2079 )

Seat 3: bigbetjim ( $2000 )

Seat 4: unbridels ( $2097 )

Seat 5: CardRack_77 ( $1755 )

morello05 posts small blind [$10].

lancealot1 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Kd Ks ]

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

>You have options at Table 95962 (No DP) Table!.

Lucianoff has joined the table.

AssaniFisher raises [$65].

Gus_C folds.

jmtrd folds.

unbridels folds.

CardRack_77 folds.

morello05 calls [$55].

lancealot1 calls [$45].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 6c, 9h ]

morello05 bets [$150].

lancealot1 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$150].

>You have options at San Marino Table!.

** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]

morello05 bets [$425].

>You have options at Table 95962 (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher folds.

morello05 does not show cards.

morello05 wins $917

This would've been amazing if no hearts were out. Checked the turn because I didn't want to get into a huge pot until I was sure. Thought he might have AK with the king of hearts on the flop, and I wasn't sure if I wanted to take too much of a gamble....can't complain with this pot though.

***** Hand History for Game 3737699671 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 03:30:30 ET 2006

Table San Marino (Real Money)

Seat 2 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 10: AssaniFisher ( $5268.67 )

Seat 2: imnotthe_guy ( $315.50 )

Seat 9: toolittle111 ( $2350 )

Seat 7: slothr0p ( $3769 )

Seat 5: DaringDuck ( $2066 )

Seat 3: Juggernaut_9 ( $2113 )

Seat 8: madmanvep ( $952 )

Seat 1: bigbetjim ( $1920 )

Seat 6: kingred ( $3223 )

Seat 4: gamblinup ( $1640 )

Juggernaut_9 posts small blind [$10].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

gamblinup posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ 2c 2s ]

DaringDuck folds.

kingred raises [$75].

slothr0p folds.

madmanvep folds.

toolittle111 folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher calls [$75].

bigbetjim folds.

imnotthe_guy folds.

Juggernaut_9 folds.

gamblinup calls [$55].

** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, Jh, 2h ]

gamblinup checks.

kingred bets [$300].

AssaniFisher raises [$800].

gamblinup folds.

kingred calls [$500].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]

kingred checks.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

>You have options at Table 95962 (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher checks.

** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]

kingred checks.

AssaniFisher checks.

kingred shows [ Ad, Jd ] two pairs, aces and jacks.

AssaniFisher shows [ 2c, 2s ] three of a kind, twos.

AssaniFisher wins $1832 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

pokerwerx is at another table, so I'm going to join that one. Only seat open is directly to his right, which I hate, but its better than nothing.

I called the flop hoping that the flush came on the turn to slow him down. I'll continue to fold these spots and wait for better opportunities.

***** Hand History for Game 3737864103 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 03:51:43 ET 2006

Table Ace Magnets (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 6 is the button

Total number of players : 9

Seat 1: Guesstalot ( $3428.50 )

Seat 4: pokerwerx ( $3253 )

Seat 5: slothr0p ( $5132 )

Seat 6: Gus_C ( $2847 )

Seat 7: DaringDuck ( $2710 )

Seat 8: equityhound ( $5865 )

Seat 9: hammers2 ( $1980 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $2052 )

Seat 2: patadler ( $480.02 )

DaringDuck posts small blind [$10].

equityhound posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ks Ac ]

hammers2 folds.

Guesstalot folds.

patadler folds.

AssaniFisher raises [$65].

pokerwerx folds.

slothr0p folds.

Gus_C folds.

DaringDuck calls [$55].

equityhound folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, Kd, 6h ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

DaringDuck checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$100].

DaringDuck raises [$300].

AssaniFisher calls [$200].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]

DaringDuck bets [$475].

AssaniFisher folds.

DaringDuck does not show cards.

DaringDuck wins $1222

Had a bad feeling. Big bet on turn only confirmed that. I expect to be critisized for playing it like this, but I still like it.

***** Hand History for Game 3737905391 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 03:57:35 ET 2006

Table Ace Magnets (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 3 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Guesstalot ( $3348.50 )

Seat 4: pokerwerx ( $3215 )

Seat 5: slothr0p ( $5264 )

Seat 6: Gus_C ( $2847 )

Seat 7: DaringDuck ( $3142 )

Seat 8: equityhound ( $5835 )

Seat 9: hammers2 ( $1950 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $1970 )

Seat 10: harleyhats ( $1970 )

Seat 2: lancealot1 ( $2000 )

pokerwerx posts small blind [$10].

slothr0p posts big blind [$20].

lancealot1 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Qd Qc ]

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Gus_C folds.

DaringDuck folds.

equityhound raises [$90].

hammers2 folds.

harleyhats folds.

Guesstalot folds.

lancealot1 folds.

AssaniFisher raises [$285].

pokerwerx folds.

slothr0p folds.

>You have options at Radio Daze (No DP) Table!.

equityhound calls [$195].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 9s, 7d ]

equityhound checks.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher checks.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]

equityhound bets [$600].

AssaniFisher folds.

equityhound does not show cards.

equityhound wins $1217

Since I joined the table with pokerwerx a while ago, he has actually won about $1000 and he has not got out of line at all...kinda disappointing.

LOL...the very next hand after I type that he raised to $200 UTG. WTF is he thinking raising 10x BB UTG???

He can actually be hard to play with at times since hes aggressive.

***** Hand History for Game 3737958727 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 04:05:11 ET 2006

Table Ace Magnets (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 2 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Guesstalot ( $3308.50 )

Seat 4: pokerwerx ( $3282 )

Seat 5: slothr0p ( $5301 )

Seat 6: Gus_C ( $2835.50 )

Seat 7: DaringDuck ( $3102 )

Seat 8: equityhound ( $6167 )

Seat 9: hammers2 ( $2000 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $1980 )

Seat 2: lancealot1 ( $2055.50 )

Seat 10: pockets16146 ( $1980 )

AssaniFisher posts small blind [$10].

pokerwerx posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Js Qc ]

slothr0p folds.

Gus_C folds.

DaringDuck folds.

hammers2 folds.

pockets16146 folds.

Guesstalot folds.

lancealot1 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$10].

pokerwerx checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, Ah, 9c ]

AssaniFisher bets [$20].

pokerwerx raises [$40].

AssaniFisher calls [$20].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]

AssaniFisher checks.

pokerwerx bets [$20].

AssaniFisher calls [$20].

** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]

AssaniFisher checks.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

pokerwerx bets [$60].

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher calls [$60].

pokerwerx shows [ 4h, 4c ] a pair of fours.

AssaniFisher shows [ Js, Qc ] two pairs, queens and jacks.

AssaniFisher wins $277 from the main pot with two pairs, queens and jacks.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

Well it wasn't as good as it could've been, but he gave me some action. BTW, if another player hadn't entered with a raise, I was going to make a huge overbet because I felt like he would still call it. Maybe I should've bet even more here....I bet he would've called $600.

***** Hand History for Game 3738016691 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 04:13:12 ET 2006

Table Ace Magnets (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 1 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Guesstalot ( $3228.50 )

Seat 4: pokerwerx ( $2629.50 )

Seat 5: slothr0p ( $5655 )

Seat 6: Gus_C ( $2795.50 )

Seat 7: DaringDuck ( $2962 )

Seat 8: equityhound ( $6167 )

Seat 9: hammers2 ( $1970 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $2174 )

Seat 2: lancealot1 ( $2035.50 )

Seat 10: pockets16146 ( $2374 )

lancealot1 posts small blind [$10].

AssaniFisher posts big blind [$20].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ As Ad ]

pokerwerx calls [$20].

slothr0p folds.

Gus_C folds.

DaringDuck folds.

hammers2 folds.

pockets16146 raises [$90].

Guesstalot folds.

lancealot1 folds.

AssaniFisher raises [$305].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

pokerwerx calls [$305].

pockets16146 folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 2s, Js ]

>You have options at Radio Daze (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher bets [$450].

>You have options at Radio Daze (No DP) Table!.

pokerwerx folds.

AssaniFisher does not show cards.

AssaniFisher wins $1197

Nice.

***** Hand History for Game 3738088228 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 04:23:38 ET 2006

Table Radio Daze (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 3 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: royke ( $1506.42 )

Seat 2: hammers2 ( $2531.36 )

Seat 3: equityhound ( $2356.37 )

Seat 4: xdiver ( $3342.42 )

Seat 5: Gus_C ( $2130 )

Seat 7: bigbetjim ( $1970 )

Seat 8: DaringDuck ( $3521.25 )

Seat 9: sExYbOdY68 ( $1814.60 )

Seat 10: slothr0p ( $2048.53 )

Seat 6: AssaniFisher ( $1948.44 )

xdiver posts small blind [$10].

Gus_C posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ac Ad ]

AssaniFisher raises [$65].

bigbetjim folds.

DaringDuck folds.

sExYbOdY68 folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

slothr0p did not respond in time.

slothr0p folds.

royke folds.

hammers2 folds.

equityhound folds.

xdiver calls [$55].

Gus_C folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 6h, 9h ]

xdiver checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$100].

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

xdiver raises [$200].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher calls [$100].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]

xdiver checks.

AssaniFisher checks.

** Dealing River ** [ As ]

xdiver bets [$125].

AssaniFisher raises [$425].

xdiver folds.

AssaniFisher does not show cards.

AssaniFisher wins $1097

>You have options at Ace Magnets (No DP) Table!.

Poker is easy(and yes I still love this guy).

***** Hand History for Game 3738164785 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 04:34:50 ET 2006

Table Ace Magnets (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 10 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Guesstalot ( $2950.50 )

Seat 4: pokerwerx ( $835 )

Seat 5: slothr0p ( $7577 )

Seat 6: Gus_C ( $3869.50 )

Seat 7: DaringDuck ( $1980 )

Seat 8: equityhound ( $5789 )

Seat 9: hammers2 ( $3343.31 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $2728 )

Seat 2: lancealot1 ( $1975.50 )

Seat 10: pockets16146 ( $2271 )

Guesstalot posts small blind [$10].

lancealot1 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Ac Ad ]

AssaniFisher raises [$65].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

pokerwerx is all-In [$835]

slothr0p folds.

Gus_C folds.

DaringDuck folds.

equityhound folds.

hammers2 folds.

pockets16146 folds.

Guesstalot folds.

lancealot1 folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$770].

** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 6d, Qd ]

** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]

>You have options at Radio Daze (No DP) Table!.

** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]

AssaniFisher shows [ Ac, Ad ] a flush, ace high.

pokerwerx doesn't show [ Kc, 2c ] high card king.

AssaniFisher wins $1697 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.

pokerwerx has left the table.

Guess I should've checked the river....never put him on the flush draw though.

***** Hand History for Game 3738424423 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 05:13:33 ET 2006

Table Radio Daze (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 9 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: royke ( $3286.28 )

Seat 2: hammers2 ( $2505.36 )

Seat 3: equityhound ( $3234.57 )

Seat 4: xdiver ( $712.62 )

Seat 5: Gus_C ( $1387.07 )

Seat 8: DaringDuck ( $4038.07 )

Seat 10: slothr0p ( $2000 )

Seat 6: AssaniFisher ( $2365.36 )

Seat 9: Tantrumdude ( $422 )

Seat 7: Gamble4You ( $2040 )

royke posts small blind [$10].

hammers2 posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Qc Ks ]

>You have options at Ace Magnets (No DP) Table!.

equityhound folds.

xdiver calls [$20].

Gus_C folds.

AssaniFisher calls [$20].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

Gamble4You folds.

DaringDuck folds.

Tantrumdude folds.

>You have options at Ace Magnets (No DP) Table!.

royke calls [$10].

hammers2 checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 8c, Qs ]

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

royke checks.

hammers2 checks.

xdiver checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$45].

royke calls [$45].

hammers2 folds.

xdiver calls [$45].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]

royke checks.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

xdiver checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$175].

royke folds.

xdiver calls [$175].

** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]

xdiver checks.

AssaniFisher bets [$350].

xdiver is all-In [$472.62]

AssaniFisher calls [$122.62].

AssaniFisher shows [ Qc, Ks ] two pairs, kings and queens.

xdiver shows [ 9c, Jc ] a flush, king high.

xdiver wins $1507.24 from the main pot with a flush, king high.

Ouch.

***** Hand History for Game 3738506693 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 05:27:21 ET 2006

Table Cann River (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 7 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 8: lancealot1 ( $3453 )

Seat 9: AssaniFisher ( $2878.25 )

Seat 10: Gus_C ( $1948 )

Seat 7: DaringDuck ( $1962.33 )

Seat 6: hammers2 ( $2507.52 )

Seat 2: madmanvep ( $2106.50 )

Seat 5: pockets16146 ( $2650.33 )

Seat 3: equityhound ( $2386 )

Seat 1: Gamble4You ( $2000 )

Seat 4: zinyandord ( $2000 )

lancealot1 posts small blind [$10].

AssaniFisher posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Tc 9d ]

Gus_C folds.

Gamble4You folds.

madmanvep calls [$20].

equityhound folds.

zinyandord calls [$20].

pockets16146 folds.

hammers2 folds.

>You have options at Table 96042 (No DP) Table!.

DaringDuck folds.

lancealot1 folds.

AssaniFisher checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 3c, Th ]

AssaniFisher bets [$30].

>You have options at Ace Magnets (No DP) Table!.

madmanvep calls [$30].

zinyandord raises [$120].

AssaniFisher raises [$330].

madmanvep folds.

>You have options at Ace Magnets (No DP) Table!.

zinyandord is all-In [$1860]

>You have options at Ace Magnets (No DP) Table!.

AssaniFisher calls [$1620].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]

** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]

AssaniFisher shows [ Tc, 9d ] two pairs, tens and nines.

zinyandord shows [ 3h, 3d ] three of a kind, threes.

zinyandord wins $4057 from the main pot with three of a kind, threes.

The board pairing was good for me, so I called...tough decision, especially after having just lost a pot.

***** Hand History for Game 3738511042 *****

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 05:28:11 ET 2006

Table Ace Magnets (No DP) (Real Money)

Seat 10 is the button

Total number of players : 10

Seat 1: Guesstalot ( $3150.50 )

Seat 5: slothr0p ( $7080.48 )

Seat 6: Gus_C ( $4999.50 )

Seat 7: DaringDuck ( $2000 )

Seat 8: equityhound ( $6442.52 )

Seat 9: hammers2 ( $3160.31 )

Seat 3: AssaniFisher ( $3536 )

Seat 10: pockets16146 ( $2324 )

Seat 4: Tantrumdude ( $215 )

Seat 2: Gamble4You ( $1947 )

Guesstalot posts small blind [$10].

Gamble4You posts big blind [$20].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to AssaniFisher [ Jc Jh ]

AssaniFisher raises [$65].

Tantrumdude folds.

slothr0p folds.

Gus_C folds.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

DaringDuck folds.

equityhound folds.

hammers2 folds.

pockets16146 calls [$65].

Guesstalot folds.

Gamble4You folds.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 3s, 4h ]

AssaniFisher bets [$90].

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

pockets16146 calls [$90].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]

AssaniFisher bets [$125].

pockets16146 raises [$275].

AssaniFisher calls [$150].

** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]

AssaniFisher checks.

>You have options at Radio Daze (No DP) Table!.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

pockets16146 bets [$625].

AssaniFisher calls [$625].

pockets16146 shows [ 7h, Th ] a pair of fours.

AssaniFisher shows [ Jc, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and fours.

AssaniFisher wins $2137 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and fours.

>You have options at Cann River (No DP) Table!.

continued...

 
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