Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Borgata is the best card room I've ever been to(although I've never been to Commerce and heard good things)...they have an excellent selection of all games, especially this week during the WPT.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
tight, unimaginative play. Try to see flops for cheap from LP no matter what you have, but you'll rarely be able to as they usually play much bigger(meaning the preflop raises are way higher than 3x BB). Basically just wait for your big preflop hands. The game is so mechanical that one could get absolutely hammered drinking while playing, and still play perfectly
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I hear you. The thing is that with the ever changing(and I mean that in a bad way) state of online poker, its made things a lot more difficult for me. I would give anything to be able to take my current experience back with me a few years ago because I could've made sooooooo much money back then. Until poker is legislated though, I don't think we'll ever have that golden age again. I think I'm going to focus more on live poker and go from there.
Steve in Minneapolis
Footballguy
Posting hand histories for us all to learn from is going to be much harder...
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Does Poker Keep Getting Harder and Harder?
Recently a few players took issue with something I said in a recent interview. The controversial question and answer are:
Bernard Chapin: Do you think that with each passing year, the game gets tougher and tougher due to poker players sharing all their secrets with readers?
Ed Miller: No. My sense is not that the games do not get harder and harder. What the instructional stuff does is keep the marginal players interested. Without the instructional literature, they’d be more likely to simply give up. You have to remember that not everyone learns how to play well by studying. Often, they’ll try to apply proven concepts and then fail miserably. That is what keeps the games good.
The responses went along the lines of, “Of course the games are getting harder. Ed doesn’t know what he’s talking about.” I figured I’d write a little more about it.
First things first. Clearly online games have gotten tougher over the last couple of years, especially the limit games. Guys that made $100k or more playing limit in 2004 can’t come anywhere near that number now. Virtually all the guys I know who played limit online for a living have now moved to no limit games, even though they play limit better. Home is where the money is, and they’re making more playing no limit, a game they play ok, against bad players than playing limit, a game they play great, against other great players.
My feeling is that live games have gotten no tougher overall over that time. In fact, the games I’ve played have actually gotten softer. At least that’s my feeling. The small, live no limit games are laughably soft. The limit games are soft too, at least when you can find them. Many of the people I know who played $15-$30 and $20-$40 a few years ago are now winning at $100-$200. That’s not what happens when the games are getting tougher.
I think the online toughening phenomenon has very little to do with instructional books. As awesome as I think my books are, I think they have only a small influence over the way people play. And I do think that books help keep people interested in the game. So maybe my books have made the books slightly tougher, but it’s only slight.
I think it’s telling that online games have changed far more than live games. I think there are a few reasons:
1. The player base is maturing, fast. Everything happens faster online. Winning players win faster. Losing players lose faster. Time gets compressed. In 2004, new players with fresh money flocked to online games. But that process has slowed, at least on a percentage growth basis, and the maturing of the player base necessarily means the games will get tougher. Many players will get better or quit. Not many players will play regularly online for years and years never improving. They’ll lose too much money too fast. The same process will happen in live games too, but it will happen much slower.
2. Players left limit for no limit. That’s going to make the limit games a lot tougher. It was the more mature game in 2004, so already people had learned to play fairly well. But there were tons of bad players, so the games were good. But bad players migrated to no limit and left the old pros to play amongst each other. Players who were used to winning a lot became break-even or worse. (If you doubt it, read the forums and read all the threads with all the graphs from frustrated ex-pros.)
3. Rakes have increased. Whenever the rake goes up, it squeezes everyone a bit more, and a tier of players who could marginally afford to play will no longer be able to afford it. When you shear off the bottom, the games get tougher.
4. Multitablers have gotten much more efficient. A few weeks back I wrote about the threat that bots pose to online poker. Multitablers are like mini-bots, and they have gotten much more efficient in the past few years thanks to some new tools. PokerTracker, PAHUD, and other tools make it easier to play well on more tables simultaneously. In 2003, most people I knew two- and three-tabled. Now a fair number of people 12-table. It makes a big difference. Just as rampant bots will make the games dead, rampant multitablers make the games tougher.
So yes, online games have been getting tougher over the past couple of years, but I don’t think it’s because “poker” is getting tougher, and I certainly don’t think it’s because I wrote a couple books with some strategy tips. To be honest, I think live games will always and forever be good. There’s too many people who like to play, and too many who are perfectly happy to play badly to make live games tough.
Certain games might get tough. The $30-$60 limit game at the Bellagio might get bad, but another game will spring up in it’s place that’s good. If you play live poker, I think you’ll always somewhere somehow be able to find games good enough to make a living in.
Online games are another story. I don’t see the processes I’ve mentioned above abating any time soon. The games will continue to mature, and multitabling (and botting) will become more efficient unless the cardrooms really try to stop it. Online games may well get tougher and tougher until few people want to play online anymore.
Or they may not. Maybe cardrooms will help reverse some of these processes that make games tougher, and online poker will mature gracefully. Maybe I’m wrong about the whole thing. But I see online poker as far more volatile than live poker. A few years ago it was a professional’s dream, and people who didn’t even play very well could make $200k or more in limit hold ‘em games. A few years from now, it might be a wasteland of high rakes, rocks, and multi-tablers. Live play is more predictable. If you move to LA, I think you can pretty much count on good poker games in the LA area for decades to come. I have no idea what online play will look like in even three years.
Finally, I wanted to talk about the role instructional books have. I’m a bit of an idealist. I think information should be free (free as in freedom, not free beer). It’s not a popular view among many poker players. They want to hide information, keep it from others. “Don’t educate the fishes,” they say.
I think that’s bull####. In cryptography, there’s a fundamental idea: “There’s no security in obscurity.” That is, you can’t make something secure merely by hiding it. Real security means that your cryptographic algorithm must still be secure even if you tell everyone exactly how it works. I feel the same idea applies to poker. You can’t make yourself a good player merely by denying education to your opponents. Good play means taking the fundamental ideas everyone can know and applying them better on a case by case and hand by hand basis.
So I write about what I know about poker. I don’t “hold back,” so to speak. I don’t know everything, and I still learn new things about poker all the time, but I don’t hold back what I know. I think it’s futile. If I don’t say it, someone else will, and ultimately, that’s what people do. They share information. So I share what I know and what I’ve figured out.
And no matter how widely information gets disseminated, there will always be good players and bad players. Some people will use the information well, and others won’t, either because they don’t understand or because they are action junkies and don’t care to play “well.” No book I (or anyone else) could ever write could possible make poker games “bad.” Human nature makes poker games good.
http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/article...and-harder.html
Recently a few players took issue with something I said in a recent interview. The controversial question and answer are:
Bernard Chapin: Do you think that with each passing year, the game gets tougher and tougher due to poker players sharing all their secrets with readers?
Ed Miller: No. My sense is not that the games do not get harder and harder. What the instructional stuff does is keep the marginal players interested. Without the instructional literature, they’d be more likely to simply give up. You have to remember that not everyone learns how to play well by studying. Often, they’ll try to apply proven concepts and then fail miserably. That is what keeps the games good.
The responses went along the lines of, “Of course the games are getting harder. Ed doesn’t know what he’s talking about.” I figured I’d write a little more about it.
First things first. Clearly online games have gotten tougher over the last couple of years, especially the limit games. Guys that made $100k or more playing limit in 2004 can’t come anywhere near that number now. Virtually all the guys I know who played limit online for a living have now moved to no limit games, even though they play limit better. Home is where the money is, and they’re making more playing no limit, a game they play ok, against bad players than playing limit, a game they play great, against other great players.
My feeling is that live games have gotten no tougher overall over that time. In fact, the games I’ve played have actually gotten softer. At least that’s my feeling. The small, live no limit games are laughably soft. The limit games are soft too, at least when you can find them. Many of the people I know who played $15-$30 and $20-$40 a few years ago are now winning at $100-$200. That’s not what happens when the games are getting tougher.
I think the online toughening phenomenon has very little to do with instructional books. As awesome as I think my books are, I think they have only a small influence over the way people play. And I do think that books help keep people interested in the game. So maybe my books have made the books slightly tougher, but it’s only slight.
I think it’s telling that online games have changed far more than live games. I think there are a few reasons:
1. The player base is maturing, fast. Everything happens faster online. Winning players win faster. Losing players lose faster. Time gets compressed. In 2004, new players with fresh money flocked to online games. But that process has slowed, at least on a percentage growth basis, and the maturing of the player base necessarily means the games will get tougher. Many players will get better or quit. Not many players will play regularly online for years and years never improving. They’ll lose too much money too fast. The same process will happen in live games too, but it will happen much slower.
2. Players left limit for no limit. That’s going to make the limit games a lot tougher. It was the more mature game in 2004, so already people had learned to play fairly well. But there were tons of bad players, so the games were good. But bad players migrated to no limit and left the old pros to play amongst each other. Players who were used to winning a lot became break-even or worse. (If you doubt it, read the forums and read all the threads with all the graphs from frustrated ex-pros.)
3. Rakes have increased. Whenever the rake goes up, it squeezes everyone a bit more, and a tier of players who could marginally afford to play will no longer be able to afford it. When you shear off the bottom, the games get tougher.
4. Multitablers have gotten much more efficient. A few weeks back I wrote about the threat that bots pose to online poker. Multitablers are like mini-bots, and they have gotten much more efficient in the past few years thanks to some new tools. PokerTracker, PAHUD, and other tools make it easier to play well on more tables simultaneously. In 2003, most people I knew two- and three-tabled. Now a fair number of people 12-table. It makes a big difference. Just as rampant bots will make the games dead, rampant multitablers make the games tougher.
So yes, online games have been getting tougher over the past couple of years, but I don’t think it’s because “poker” is getting tougher, and I certainly don’t think it’s because I wrote a couple books with some strategy tips. To be honest, I think live games will always and forever be good. There’s too many people who like to play, and too many who are perfectly happy to play badly to make live games tough.
Certain games might get tough. The $30-$60 limit game at the Bellagio might get bad, but another game will spring up in it’s place that’s good. If you play live poker, I think you’ll always somewhere somehow be able to find games good enough to make a living in.
Online games are another story. I don’t see the processes I’ve mentioned above abating any time soon. The games will continue to mature, and multitabling (and botting) will become more efficient unless the cardrooms really try to stop it. Online games may well get tougher and tougher until few people want to play online anymore.
Or they may not. Maybe cardrooms will help reverse some of these processes that make games tougher, and online poker will mature gracefully. Maybe I’m wrong about the whole thing. But I see online poker as far more volatile than live poker. A few years ago it was a professional’s dream, and people who didn’t even play very well could make $200k or more in limit hold ‘em games. A few years from now, it might be a wasteland of high rakes, rocks, and multi-tablers. Live play is more predictable. If you move to LA, I think you can pretty much count on good poker games in the LA area for decades to come. I have no idea what online play will look like in even three years.
Finally, I wanted to talk about the role instructional books have. I’m a bit of an idealist. I think information should be free (free as in freedom, not free beer). It’s not a popular view among many poker players. They want to hide information, keep it from others. “Don’t educate the fishes,” they say.
I think that’s bull####. In cryptography, there’s a fundamental idea: “There’s no security in obscurity.” That is, you can’t make something secure merely by hiding it. Real security means that your cryptographic algorithm must still be secure even if you tell everyone exactly how it works. I feel the same idea applies to poker. You can’t make yourself a good player merely by denying education to your opponents. Good play means taking the fundamental ideas everyone can know and applying them better on a case by case and hand by hand basis.
So I write about what I know about poker. I don’t “hold back,” so to speak. I don’t know everything, and I still learn new things about poker all the time, but I don’t hold back what I know. I think it’s futile. If I don’t say it, someone else will, and ultimately, that’s what people do. They share information. So I share what I know and what I’ve figured out.
And no matter how widely information gets disseminated, there will always be good players and bad players. Some people will use the information well, and others won’t, either because they don’t understand or because they are action junkies and don’t care to play “well.” No book I (or anyone else) could ever write could possible make poker games “bad.” Human nature makes poker games good.
http://www.notedpokerauthority.com/article...and-harder.html
David Dodds
Administrator
Outstanding article. I agree with all of it. The online game has gotten WAY HARDER. I used to be able to play $5/10 NL and KNOW I would come out ahead if I put in a few hours (playing 2-3 tables at once). I now multi-table (usually 8-9 tables at $1/$2) and USUALLY come out ahead. About half of the table are others that are multi-tabling, etc. The difference between a winning and losing session can be as little as a few hands when you play with so many good players. I have just went on a mini-heater and now have taken my $600 deposit up to a bit over $4,000. I also now have a full complement of player notes on most everyone that plays at Stars. I still think I can beat this game, but time will tell if that turns out to be true. It's been a lot harder this offseason than I thought it would be that's for sure.
Because I play so many hands, I earn a ton of Stars FPPs. Every 50,000 you can buy a $650 bonus (Once I am SuperNova, I can get a $1500 bonus for 100,000 FPP). I just cleared the first one and will get a new $650 bonus once I earn another 8,000 FPPs. That's my basic plan here. Win a little playing poker (but amass a ton of FPPs while beating the rake). Then use these FPPs to build the bankroll by buying bonuses that I clear. My goal is to build my account to $15-20K before I go to the WSOP. It's been a hard grind for sure.
Because I play so many hands, I earn a ton of Stars FPPs. Every 50,000 you can buy a $650 bonus (Once I am SuperNova, I can get a $1500 bonus for 100,000 FPP). I just cleared the first one and will get a new $650 bonus once I earn another 8,000 FPPs. That's my basic plan here. Win a little playing poker (but amass a ton of FPPs while beating the rake). Then use these FPPs to build the bankroll by buying bonuses that I clear. My goal is to build my account to $15-20K before I go to the WSOP. It's been a hard grind for sure.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
It's true on the lower levels, too.
Before I semi-stopped playing after the legislation, I was about 4-5 PTBB/100 playing 50 and 100 NL. Now, after struggling to break even at 50 NL, then dropping down to 25 NL (and barely going ahead there), I cashed out most of my roll, and am starting over at 10NL, where even THAT is hard.
My goal is 3K before the WSOP. I have no idea if I'm going to come close. 3K would require me to have moved up to 100NL by that time, and I'm not sure I can do that with my current skill level, especially as the games get harder and harder.
Don't forget, Stars can shut out US players any day at this point, too. Without Neteller, it's going to be very hard for US players to get in and deposit, as well.
Before I semi-stopped playing after the legislation, I was about 4-5 PTBB/100 playing 50 and 100 NL. Now, after struggling to break even at 50 NL, then dropping down to 25 NL (and barely going ahead there), I cashed out most of my roll, and am starting over at 10NL, where even THAT is hard.
My goal is 3K before the WSOP. I have no idea if I'm going to come close. 3K would require me to have moved up to 100NL by that time, and I'm not sure I can do that with my current skill level, especially as the games get harder and harder.
Don't forget, Stars can shut out US players any day at this point, too. Without Neteller, it's going to be very hard for US players to get in and deposit, as well.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
David, do you ever play tourneys? If so you'll get more FPP value by entering the 5400 satelittes to the Sunday Million and then unregistering immediately to get T$.
Of if you become SuperNova then save up 180K FPPs and get $3000 worth of gift cards. You can mix and match and get some gas cards, supermarket cards, etc. so you're getting cards to places you'd spend money at any way.
If you like the $650s every so often, then thats fine but I think there might be some better values for you.
Personally I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay online much longer....maybe I'll just play the big tourneys online and play ring games live.
Of if you become SuperNova then save up 180K FPPs and get $3000 worth of gift cards. You can mix and match and get some gas cards, supermarket cards, etc. so you're getting cards to places you'd spend money at any way.
If you like the $650s every so often, then thats fine but I think there might be some better values for you.
Personally I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay online much longer....maybe I'll just play the big tourneys online and play ring games live.
David Dodds
Administrator
Actually the tourneys I play are the 400 FPP to win a 4,000 FPP seat or the 1,000 to win an 8,000 seat. I will just do these while I am multi-tabling. I also just cash out of the FPPs then. I don't play a lot of tournies (although I like the Omaha H/L Sitngos). I agree the 180K FPP for 3,000 worth of gift cards is cool. I am just not at SuperNova yet to do that. I also think playing the pros in a one-table sitngo is great return for something like 15000 FPP (but I have never ever seen these not full)
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Just got back from AC. Played at the Taj and Borgata. Did really well. Won all 4 days, meaning I'm 5/5 with winning sessions in 2007 live poker. Up close to $2000. Started out playing $1/2 then moved up to $2/5. Gonna go back next Monday-Friday probably.
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MelvinTScupper
Guest
Have you changed your style at all?
Alias
Footballguy
What are the buy-in limits? I heard out in Cali Commerce sucks, the buy-in is limited to like 40BB.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
What style do you think that I play exactly? I'd like to think that I pretty much adapt to the game and can play most styles proficiently.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
At both Taj and Borgata:$1/2NL: $300 max$2/5NL: $500 maxHowever if you've lost a pot and are reloading you can usually reload a bit over these numbers without the dealer caring.40BB? For NL? Thats ridiculously low. Any chance thats the minimum buy in and you misunderstood?
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
This is true about the Commerce. $5/$10 NL with a cap of $400
Just dumb.The Bike is uncapped and some great games. I played both last July and I even played on the "Live @ the Bike" on July 18th 
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MelvinTScupper
Guest
please you've never played weak-tight in your life. I've read your blogs here, you're super-aggressive, with a trap tossed in here and there. It didn't work that well before, I'm asking if you've adjusted or are sticking with your go-to style.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
What gives you the impression that it didn't work that well before? He's pretty far up from what I can tell.
tmc94
Footballguy
I haven't played with AF that much but I would charterize him as pretty tight. I'd have to pull out my PT on him but I believe he is charactrerized as TAA. It's easy to get a bad impression of someone's style based on the hands they post. Are you going to post fold, fold, fold? Probably not. So instead you post mostly hands that you played which if you are going to succeed will always contain a few situational plays that look
Winning at 10-20 is not an easy thing to do. There are very few fish. Opponents can tell when you are playing poorly and they hammer you for it. From what I can tell, AF was playing very well at points last year and not so good at others. He doesn't need to change his style much if at all IMO. What he needs to do - and I'm sure he doesn't need me to tell him this - is to bring his A game every day. He needs to be more consistent in his play. And that is not at all an easy thing to do.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
This is what I remember from his posted stats as well. He plays few hands but the hands he does play he pushes very, very hard.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I don't think I've ever played weak tight, but I'm most definitely a tight player when the situation calls for it. First off, I think that you're basing that simply on a few HHs instead of actually watching me play. I've actually been in a tournament on Party before and running over a tight table, and had someone there who was a regular in the $10/20 game(the same game I was posting HHs from) say to me "Man, you're the tighest regular usually at $10/20 and now you're raising every hand!"
I'm probably the tightest 2p2 posters on the omaha8 forums by far. I have logged 29,444 omaha8 hands in pokertracker(not a huge sample size, I know) and have a 21.06 VPIP.
At one point I posted there that I had a VPIP of only 19.88 and bbartlog commented:
Split Suit commented:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat...rue#Post8073720Anyway, with regards to your question, when playing $2/5 NL live, I'm the tighest player at the table at least 50% of the time and almost always one of the top 3 tighest at the table. I don't think I've changed anything though...its just the difference between playing $2/5 live and $10/20 online(which is what almost all of the HHs you saw were from).
Edited to add: What do you mean by "it didn't work out that well before"? According to pokertracker I'm a winning player over 43,871 hands at $10/20 on PartyPoker(although a losing player over 576 hands at $5/10 but thats only 576 hands).
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Don't worry about the hijack at all.....I probably won't be there on Saturdays, as I like to take those off and spend them out with friends in NY, but if anyone wants to get together on a weekday let me know.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
damn, thats horrible. I've heard such good things about Commerce too(I've never been)....strange.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Playing on both Full Tilt and Stars now. Started playing and working on my limit hold em game a bit. Going to be in AC this next week and maybe the week after as well. Just playing lower stakes trying to get a big bankroll up. Nothing big lately at all. Doing ok I guess.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Assani I just got back from my second trip to California and I can tell you honestly that the play out there is some of the worst I've ever seen. There's a lot of money out there and a lot of people playing way, way over their heads. Yeah, the structure isn't great, and the rake makes it impossible to beat the 1/2 type of games, but the games are so soft it's unreal.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
What casino and what limits?I'm moving out West within a year, and it might be to Cali, so I'm definitely interested. I've obviously heard about Commerce in LA, but I havn't heard much else. I might be moving to the SD area, but I'm not sure at all. Or just might move to Vegas.
bostonfred
Footballguy
All of my trips have been in the San Mateo-San Francisco corridor. The two I spent the most time at were Lucky Chances in Colma, CA and Bay 101 south of the SF bay. California has interesting gambling laws. You're not allowed to have games against the house (like blackjack) so they have fake versions of those games (like California Blackjack and baccarat) that let people gamble big. This drives the people with big money and a desire to gamble to play poker.
Unfortunately, this also means that the only way for a casino to be profitable is to jack up the rake. I didn't see a rake schedule anywhere but it seemed high to me.
The biggest limit games I've seen in the smaller places I went were at the fake blackjack type games. The poker games capped out around 9-18 limit at lucky chances and 20-40 or 30-60 limit at Bay 101. I'd imagine Commerce is higher.
Strictly speaking, no-limit games don't exist. Instead, they play "spread limit", which means you can bet anywhere from 1BB to $200. It plays like no-limit, except you can't get all in preflop and sometimes postflop if stacks are deep enough. The blinds are usually 1-1-2 (button has to blind-ante a buck) or 2-3-5 at those games.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Wow, thats somewhat interesting. Yeah, I definitely won't be moving to Northern Cali, but I would think it would still be similar. I took a look at Commerce's website and couldn't find any rake info.
Have you tried the $1/2 NL games at the Borgata on Friday nights?I'm guessing LOTS of players see the flop and they aren't afraid to bet/raise.
Your Mother
Footballguy
I've played a lot in NorCal, and from everything I've heard, I think LA is probably a lot fishier.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Stars Sunday Million today has an extra $250K added to the prize pool and will pay out 25% of the field due to the 10B hand promotion. Gonna enter.
prefontaine
Footballguy
This is a big ### thread. Anyone want to give me a synopsis?
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
flopped a set on the first hand..thats gotta be good luck, right? Only got 700 chips though(start with 10K so 750 is nothing).
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I started playing $10/20 NLHE on PartyPoker(at the time the highest stakes available). I also played some tournaments. I wanted to make $100,000 in 100 days. I posted my key hands here and people commented on them.Around 80 days or so I realized that I wasn't going to make the goal and gave it up since I was going to Vegas for the WSOP that summer and needed to be smart and drop down in stakes(I had won a seat into the main event which I detailed in this thread). A few days after I gave up, I won over $70,000 in a tournament, which ironically enough would've brough my total relatively close to $100,000 in 100 days. After that I just started posting about poker in Vegas and random poker related stuff. I play for a living so theres usually something somewhat interesting going on with me regarding poker.Theres been a lot of good discussion in here, and a lot of the posters have been very very helpful to me.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Oh and btw, I've been crushing PL Omaha hi/lo on Full Tilt lately. The PLO8 on Stars was much much tougher than this. So many horrible players on Full Tilt PLO8 tables.
prefontaine
Footballguy
tmc94
Footballguy
glll AF. I'm playing as well though when I flopped a set another guy flopped a straight. Lost about the min in that situation (2k or so). Still going in the warmup though my stack is pretty blah.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
No big win for me today. GL Tim...
PokerStars Game #10017986530: Tournament #50186235, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2007/05/20 - 17:00:47 (ET)
Table '50186235 1211' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: skilledyou (15700 in chips)
Seat 2: ryannic (9450 in chips)
Seat 3: p8ntballpro (8575 in chips)
Seat 4: KingTutu (11525 in chips)
Seat 5: ricestud (11450 in chips)
Seat 6: jwvdcw (8675 in chips)
Seat 7: BigDennys (9675 in chips)
Seat 8: chiefs2458 (7625 in chips)
Seat 9: BigJohn625 (8075 in chips)
ryannic: posts small blind 100
p8ntballpro: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [Qd Ad]
KingTutu: folds
ricestud: folds
jwvdcw: raises 300 to 500
BigDennys: folds
chiefs2458: folds
BigJohn625: folds
skilledyou: folds
ryannic: folds
p8ntballpro: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [6s Jd Kd]
p8ntballpro: checks
jwvdcw: bets 600
p8ntballpro: raises 1600 to 2200
jwvdcw: raises 3300 to 5500
p8ntballpro: raises 2575 to 8075 and is all-in
jwvdcw: calls 2575
*** TURN *** [6s Jd Kd] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [6s Jd Kd Qh] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
p8ntballpro: shows [Jh Ks] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
jwvdcw: shows [Qd Ad] (a pair of Queens)
p8ntballpro collected 17250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17250 | Rake 0
Board [6s Jd Kd Qh 3s]
Seat 1: skilledyou (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ryannic (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: p8ntballpro (big blind) showed [Jh Ks] and won (17250) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 4: KingTutu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ricestud folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jwvdcw showed [Qd Ad] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: BigDennys folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: chiefs2458 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BigJohn625 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
PokerStars Game #10017986530: Tournament #50186235, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2007/05/20 - 17:00:47 (ET)
Table '50186235 1211' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: skilledyou (15700 in chips)
Seat 2: ryannic (9450 in chips)
Seat 3: p8ntballpro (8575 in chips)
Seat 4: KingTutu (11525 in chips)
Seat 5: ricestud (11450 in chips)
Seat 6: jwvdcw (8675 in chips)
Seat 7: BigDennys (9675 in chips)
Seat 8: chiefs2458 (7625 in chips)
Seat 9: BigJohn625 (8075 in chips)
ryannic: posts small blind 100
p8ntballpro: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [Qd Ad]
KingTutu: folds
ricestud: folds
jwvdcw: raises 300 to 500
BigDennys: folds
chiefs2458: folds
BigJohn625: folds
skilledyou: folds
ryannic: folds
p8ntballpro: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [6s Jd Kd]
p8ntballpro: checks
jwvdcw: bets 600
p8ntballpro: raises 1600 to 2200
jwvdcw: raises 3300 to 5500
p8ntballpro: raises 2575 to 8075 and is all-in
jwvdcw: calls 2575
*** TURN *** [6s Jd Kd] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [6s Jd Kd Qh] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
p8ntballpro: shows [Jh Ks] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
jwvdcw: shows [Qd Ad] (a pair of Queens)
p8ntballpro collected 17250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17250 | Rake 0
Board [6s Jd Kd Qh 3s]
Seat 1: skilledyou (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ryannic (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: p8ntballpro (big blind) showed [Jh Ks] and won (17250) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 4: KingTutu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ricestud folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jwvdcw showed [Qd Ad] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: BigDennys folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: chiefs2458 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BigJohn625 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
tmc94
Footballguy
Giordano started with me at this table. I think I reraised him twice. Dude is super aggressive. Anyway, you don't often see this much action in a hand.
PokerStars Game #10018771049: Tournament #50186235, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (200/400) - 2007/05/20 - 17:45:24 (ET)
Table '50186235 634' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: xBryceyx (20130 in chips)
Seat 2: juampi_29 (15575 in chips)
Seat 3: PiMaster (19725 in chips)
Seat 4: Petrov_GRU (6875 in chips)
Seat 5: PEC Medic (8275 in chips)
Seat 6: TheBeat (5750 in chips)
Seat 7: philippo12 (17110 in chips)
Seat 8: tmc94 (9500 in chips)
Seat 9: yDeDeDeut (8560 in chips)
PEC Medic: posts small blind 200
TheBeat: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tmc94 [6c Ah]
philippo12: raises 800 to 1200
tmc94: folds
yDeDeDeut: folds
xBryceyx: calls 1200
juampi_29: calls 1200
PiMaster: folds
Petrov_GRU: folds
PEC Medic: calls 1000
TheBeat: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [Tc 7s 9s]
PEC Medic: checks
TheBeat: bets 4550 and is all-in
philippo12: calls 4550
xBryceyx: calls 4550
juampi_29: raises 9825 to 14375 and is all-in
PEC Medic: folds
philippo12: folds
xBryceyx: calls 9825
xBryceyx said, "ugh i meant to hit time"
*** TURN *** [Tc 7s 9s] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 7s 9s 5h] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xBryceyx: shows [Kh Jh] (high card King)
juampi_29: shows [Td Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
juampi_29 collected 19650 from side pot
TheBeat: shows [Ts 7h] (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
juampi_29 collected 24200 from main pot
philippo12 said, "vnh"
primemutton is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 43850 Main pot 24200. Side pot 19650. | Rake 0
Board [Tc 7s 9s 5h 2c]
Seat 1: xBryceyx showed [Kh Jh] and lost with high card King
Seat 2: juampi_29 showed [Td Th] and won (43850) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 3: PiMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Petrov_GRU (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PEC Medic (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: TheBeat (big blind) showed [Ts 7h] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 7: philippo12 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: tmc94 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: yDeDeDeut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
PokerStars Game #10018771049: Tournament #50186235, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (200/400) - 2007/05/20 - 17:45:24 (ET)
Table '50186235 634' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: xBryceyx (20130 in chips)
Seat 2: juampi_29 (15575 in chips)
Seat 3: PiMaster (19725 in chips)
Seat 4: Petrov_GRU (6875 in chips)
Seat 5: PEC Medic (8275 in chips)
Seat 6: TheBeat (5750 in chips)
Seat 7: philippo12 (17110 in chips)
Seat 8: tmc94 (9500 in chips)
Seat 9: yDeDeDeut (8560 in chips)
PEC Medic: posts small blind 200
TheBeat: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tmc94 [6c Ah]
philippo12: raises 800 to 1200
tmc94: folds
yDeDeDeut: folds
xBryceyx: calls 1200
juampi_29: calls 1200
PiMaster: folds
Petrov_GRU: folds
PEC Medic: calls 1000
TheBeat: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [Tc 7s 9s]
PEC Medic: checks
TheBeat: bets 4550 and is all-in
philippo12: calls 4550
xBryceyx: calls 4550
juampi_29: raises 9825 to 14375 and is all-in
PEC Medic: folds
philippo12: folds
xBryceyx: calls 9825
xBryceyx said, "ugh i meant to hit time"
*** TURN *** [Tc 7s 9s] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 7s 9s 5h] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xBryceyx: shows [Kh Jh] (high card King)
juampi_29: shows [Td Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
juampi_29 collected 19650 from side pot
TheBeat: shows [Ts 7h] (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
juampi_29 collected 24200 from main pot
philippo12 said, "vnh"
primemutton is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 43850 Main pot 24200. Side pot 19650. | Rake 0
Board [Tc 7s 9s 5h 2c]
Seat 1: xBryceyx showed [Kh Jh] and lost with high card King
Seat 2: juampi_29 showed [Td Th] and won (43850) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 3: PiMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Petrov_GRU (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: PEC Medic (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: TheBeat (big blind) showed [Ts 7h] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 7: philippo12 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: tmc94 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: yDeDeDeut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Congrats on the cash Tim. I'm in two tourneys now:
$55 PL08 on Stars(started at 23:30): We're down to 4 players left, I'm shortstack but still have a decent amount, obviously already in money
$75 NLHE on FT(started at 00:01): WE're down to 46, 36 pay, I'm currently 12th in chips.
$55 PL08 on Stars(started at 23:30): We're down to 4 players left, I'm shortstack but still have a decent amount, obviously already in money
$75 NLHE on FT(started at 00:01): WE're down to 46, 36 pay, I'm currently 12th in chips.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
make that 3 people left on the Stars one.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
In money in full tilt one now and chipleader in Stars one with 3 left still. The PLO8 tourneys are such crapshoots when the blinds get high and you're shorthanded.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
heads up in PLO8 now
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I won the PLO8 tournament!
I was playing as aggressive as I've ever played once it got to the final 3 and heads up. Pretty sure I had them tilting somewhat. Not a major score, but a nice $1000 or so.
Was shortstacked at the beginning of the final 3, but this hand really helped me out:
PokerStars Game #10026710927: Tournament #50008503, $50+$5 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/05/21 - 02:47:55 (ET)
Table '50008503 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (19768 in chips)
Seat 6: SiVTEC (17740 in chips)
Seat 8: RK57 (56992 in chips)
RK57: posts small blind 1000
jwvdcw: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [Tc 8h 7c 2h]
SiVTEC: folds
RK57: calls 1000
jwvdcw: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 9h 4c]
RK57: checks
jwvdcw: checks
*** TURN *** [Qc 9h 4c] [5h]
RK57: bets 4000
jwvdcw: calls 4000
*** RIVER *** [Qc 9h 4c 5h] [6c]
RK57: bets 12000
jwvdcw: raises 1768 to 13768 and is all-in
RK57: calls 1768
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jwvdcw: shows [Tc 8h 7c 2h] (HI: a flush, Queen high; LO: 7,6,5,4,2)
RK57: shows [5d 4s 5c Kh] (HI: three of a kind, Fives)
jwvdcw collected 19768 from pot
jwvdcw collected 19768 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39536 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 9h 4c 5h 6c]
Seat 1: jwvdcw (big blind) showed [Tc 8h 7c 2h] and won (39536) with HI: a flush, Queen high; LO: 7,6,5,4,2
Seat 6: SiVTEC (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: RK57 (small blind) showed [5d 4s 5c Kh] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Fives
Got really really lucky once it got heads up here...he had me in bad bad shape when we got the money in:
PokerStars Game #10026759552: Tournament #50008503, $50+$5 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/05/21 - 02:54:36 (ET)
Table '50008503 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (36572 in chips)
Seat 8: RK57 (57928 in chips)
RK57: posts small blind 1000
jwvdcw: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [Kh 4h Ad 9d]
RK57: raises 4000 to 6000
jwvdcw: calls 4000
*** FLOP *** [9h 7s Jh]
jwvdcw: checks
RK57: bets 4000
jwvdcw: raises 20000 to 24000
RK57: raises 20000 to 44000
jwvdcw: calls 6572 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9h 7s Jh] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [9h 7s Jh 9s] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jwvdcw: shows [Kh 4h Ad 9d] (HI: four of a kind, Nines)
RK57: shows [3h Js 8d Ah] (HI: three of a kind, Nines)
jwvdcw collected 73144 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 73144 | Rake 0
Board [9h 7s Jh 9s 9c]
Seat 1: jwvdcw (big blind) showed [Kh 4h Ad 9d] and won (73144) with HI: four of a kind, Nines
Seat 8: RK57 (button) (small blind) showed [3h Js 8d Ah] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Nines
Then the very next hand I hit him with this:
PokerStars Game #10026763964: Tournament #50008503, $50+$5 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/05/21 - 02:55:14 (ET)
Table '50008503 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (73144 in chips)
Seat 8: RK57 (21356 in chips)
jwvdcw: posts small blind 1000
RK57: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [5h 2h Th 4h]
jwvdcw: calls 1000
RK57: checks
*** FLOP *** [3h Kd 6c]
RK57: checks
jwvdcw: checks
*** TURN *** [3h Kd 6c] [Jh]
RK57: bets 2000
jwvdcw: calls 2000
*** RIVER *** [3h Kd 6c Jh] [2c]
RK57: bets 2000
jwvdcw: raises 12000 to 14000
RK57: calls 12000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jwvdcw: shows [5h 2h Th 4h] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,5,4,3,2)
RK57: mucks hand
jwvdcw collected 18000 from pot
jwvdcw collected 18000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 36000 | Rake 0
Board [3h Kd 6c Jh 2c]
Seat 1: jwvdcw (button) (small blind) showed [5h 2h Th 4h] and won (36000) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,5,4,3,2
Seat 8: RK57 (big blind) mucked [8d 8s Ah Kc]
And after that it was just a formality:
PokerStars Game #10026767908: Tournament #50008503, $50+$5 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/05/21 - 02:55:47 (ET)
Table '50008503 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (91144 in chips)
Seat 8: RK57 (3356 in chips)
RK57: posts small blind 1000
jwvdcw: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [5h 2d Kd 5s]
RK57: raises 1356 to 3356 and is all-in
jwvdcw: calls 1356
*** FLOP *** [4c 8s Qc]
*** TURN *** [4c 8s Qc] [Ah]
*** RIVER *** [4c 8s Qc Ah] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jwvdcw: shows [5h 2d Kd 5s] (HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
RK57: shows [Jc 9s 4h 2c] (HI: a pair of Fours; LO: 8,4,3,2,A)
jwvdcw collected 3356 from pot
jwvdcw collected 3356 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6712 | Rake 0
Board [4c 8s Qc Ah 3d]
Seat 1: jwvdcw (big blind) showed [5h 2d Kd 5s] and won (6712) with HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 8: RK57 (button) (small blind) showed [Jc 9s 4h 2c] and lost with HI: a pair of Fours; LO: 8,4,3,2,A
I was playing as aggressive as I've ever played once it got to the final 3 and heads up. Pretty sure I had them tilting somewhat. Not a major score, but a nice $1000 or so.
Was shortstacked at the beginning of the final 3, but this hand really helped me out:
PokerStars Game #10026710927: Tournament #50008503, $50+$5 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/05/21 - 02:47:55 (ET)
Table '50008503 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (19768 in chips)
Seat 6: SiVTEC (17740 in chips)
Seat 8: RK57 (56992 in chips)
RK57: posts small blind 1000
jwvdcw: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [Tc 8h 7c 2h]
SiVTEC: folds
RK57: calls 1000
jwvdcw: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 9h 4c]
RK57: checks
jwvdcw: checks
*** TURN *** [Qc 9h 4c] [5h]
RK57: bets 4000
jwvdcw: calls 4000
*** RIVER *** [Qc 9h 4c 5h] [6c]
RK57: bets 12000
jwvdcw: raises 1768 to 13768 and is all-in
RK57: calls 1768
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jwvdcw: shows [Tc 8h 7c 2h] (HI: a flush, Queen high; LO: 7,6,5,4,2)
RK57: shows [5d 4s 5c Kh] (HI: three of a kind, Fives)
jwvdcw collected 19768 from pot
jwvdcw collected 19768 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39536 | Rake 0
Board [Qc 9h 4c 5h 6c]
Seat 1: jwvdcw (big blind) showed [Tc 8h 7c 2h] and won (39536) with HI: a flush, Queen high; LO: 7,6,5,4,2
Seat 6: SiVTEC (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: RK57 (small blind) showed [5d 4s 5c Kh] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Fives
Got really really lucky once it got heads up here...he had me in bad bad shape when we got the money in:
PokerStars Game #10026759552: Tournament #50008503, $50+$5 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/05/21 - 02:54:36 (ET)
Table '50008503 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (36572 in chips)
Seat 8: RK57 (57928 in chips)
RK57: posts small blind 1000
jwvdcw: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [Kh 4h Ad 9d]
RK57: raises 4000 to 6000
jwvdcw: calls 4000
*** FLOP *** [9h 7s Jh]
jwvdcw: checks
RK57: bets 4000
jwvdcw: raises 20000 to 24000
RK57: raises 20000 to 44000
jwvdcw: calls 6572 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9h 7s Jh] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [9h 7s Jh 9s] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jwvdcw: shows [Kh 4h Ad 9d] (HI: four of a kind, Nines)
RK57: shows [3h Js 8d Ah] (HI: three of a kind, Nines)
jwvdcw collected 73144 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 73144 | Rake 0
Board [9h 7s Jh 9s 9c]
Seat 1: jwvdcw (big blind) showed [Kh 4h Ad 9d] and won (73144) with HI: four of a kind, Nines
Seat 8: RK57 (button) (small blind) showed [3h Js 8d Ah] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Nines
Then the very next hand I hit him with this:
PokerStars Game #10026763964: Tournament #50008503, $50+$5 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/05/21 - 02:55:14 (ET)
Table '50008503 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (73144 in chips)
Seat 8: RK57 (21356 in chips)
jwvdcw: posts small blind 1000
RK57: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [5h 2h Th 4h]
jwvdcw: calls 1000
RK57: checks
*** FLOP *** [3h Kd 6c]
RK57: checks
jwvdcw: checks
*** TURN *** [3h Kd 6c] [Jh]
RK57: bets 2000
jwvdcw: calls 2000
*** RIVER *** [3h Kd 6c Jh] [2c]
RK57: bets 2000
jwvdcw: raises 12000 to 14000
RK57: calls 12000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jwvdcw: shows [5h 2h Th 4h] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,5,4,3,2)
RK57: mucks hand
jwvdcw collected 18000 from pot
jwvdcw collected 18000 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 36000 | Rake 0
Board [3h Kd 6c Jh 2c]
Seat 1: jwvdcw (button) (small blind) showed [5h 2h Th 4h] and won (36000) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,5,4,3,2
Seat 8: RK57 (big blind) mucked [8d 8s Ah Kc]
And after that it was just a formality:
PokerStars Game #10026767908: Tournament #50008503, $50+$5 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/05/21 - 02:55:47 (ET)
Table '50008503 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jwvdcw (91144 in chips)
Seat 8: RK57 (3356 in chips)
RK57: posts small blind 1000
jwvdcw: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jwvdcw [5h 2d Kd 5s]
RK57: raises 1356 to 3356 and is all-in
jwvdcw: calls 1356
*** FLOP *** [4c 8s Qc]
*** TURN *** [4c 8s Qc] [Ah]
*** RIVER *** [4c 8s Qc Ah] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jwvdcw: shows [5h 2d Kd 5s] (HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
RK57: shows [Jc 9s 4h 2c] (HI: a pair of Fours; LO: 8,4,3,2,A)
jwvdcw collected 3356 from pot
jwvdcw collected 3356 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6712 | Rake 0
Board [4c 8s Qc Ah 3d]
Seat 1: jwvdcw (big blind) showed [5h 2d Kd 5s] and won (6712) with HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 8: RK57 (button) (small blind) showed [Jc 9s 4h 2c] and lost with HI: a pair of Fours; LO: 8,4,3,2,A
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
Still alive in Full Tilt tourney:
24 players left, I'm in 9th place with 20K in chips. Blinds are 500/1000 with a 125 chip ante.
24 players left, I'm in 9th place with 20K in chips. Blinds are 500/1000 with a 125 chip ante.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
hadn't been getting anything for a while until this one doubled me up:
Full Tilt Poker Game #2474705388: $18,000 Guarantee (18326550), Table 17 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:10:24 ET - 2007/05/21
Seat 1: johnny3600 (47,703)
Seat 2: rohanzsta (19,664)
Seat 3: Assani Fisher (15,221)
Seat 4: PJSNEAKS (16,360)
Seat 6: AA__FOLD__AA (35,391)
Seat 8: Rob_Gol1 (56,950)
johnny3600 antes 150
rohanzsta antes 150
Assani Fisher antes 150
PJSNEAKS antes 150
AA__FOLD__AA antes 150
Rob_Gol1 antes 150
johnny3600 posts the small blind of 600
rohanzsta posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Assani Fisher [Ks Kc]
Assani Fisher raises to 3,500
PJSNEAKS folds
AA__FOLD__AA folds
Rob_Gol1 folds
johnny3600 raises to 12,600
rohanzsta folds
Assani Fisher raises to 15,071, and is all in
johnny3600 calls 2,471
Assani Fisher shows [Ks Kc]
johnny3600 shows [Jd Jc]
johnny3600: nh
*** FLOP *** [Kh 3s 3h]
*** TURN *** [Kh 3s 3h] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 3s 3h 5d] [Qc]
Assani Fisher shows a full house, Kings full of Threes
johnny3600 shows two pair, Jacks and Threes
Assani Fisher wins the pot (32,242) with a full house, Kings full of Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 32,242 | Rake 0
Board: [Kh 3s 3h 5d Qc]
Seat 1: johnny3600 (small blind) showed [Jd Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes
Seat 2: rohanzsta (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Assani Fisher showed [Ks Kc] and won (32,242) with a full house, Kings full of Threes
Seat 4: PJSNEAKS folded before the Flop
Seat 6: AA__FOLD__AA folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Rob_Gol1 (button) folded before the Flop
In 8th place now, 18 left.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2474705388: $18,000 Guarantee (18326550), Table 17 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:10:24 ET - 2007/05/21
Seat 1: johnny3600 (47,703)
Seat 2: rohanzsta (19,664)
Seat 3: Assani Fisher (15,221)
Seat 4: PJSNEAKS (16,360)
Seat 6: AA__FOLD__AA (35,391)
Seat 8: Rob_Gol1 (56,950)
johnny3600 antes 150
rohanzsta antes 150
Assani Fisher antes 150
PJSNEAKS antes 150
AA__FOLD__AA antes 150
Rob_Gol1 antes 150
johnny3600 posts the small blind of 600
rohanzsta posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Assani Fisher [Ks Kc]
Assani Fisher raises to 3,500
PJSNEAKS folds
AA__FOLD__AA folds
Rob_Gol1 folds
johnny3600 raises to 12,600
rohanzsta folds
Assani Fisher raises to 15,071, and is all in
johnny3600 calls 2,471
Assani Fisher shows [Ks Kc]
johnny3600 shows [Jd Jc]
johnny3600: nh
*** FLOP *** [Kh 3s 3h]
*** TURN *** [Kh 3s 3h] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 3s 3h 5d] [Qc]
Assani Fisher shows a full house, Kings full of Threes
johnny3600 shows two pair, Jacks and Threes
Assani Fisher wins the pot (32,242) with a full house, Kings full of Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 32,242 | Rake 0
Board: [Kh 3s 3h 5d Qc]
Seat 1: johnny3600 (small blind) showed [Jd Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes
Seat 2: rohanzsta (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Assani Fisher showed [Ks Kc] and won (32,242) with a full house, Kings full of Threes
Seat 4: PJSNEAKS folded before the Flop
Seat 6: AA__FOLD__AA folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Rob_Gol1 (button) folded before the Flop
In 8th place now, 18 left.
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Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I'd love to hear some thought on my river raise here. Obviously if I knew his hand I woud do it all day long, but I honestly used my entire time bank thinking about it. I thought that he probably wouldn't call it unless I was beat maybe.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2474803080: $18,000 Guarantee (18326550), Table 17 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:34:13 ET - 2007/05/21
Seat 1: johnny3600 (27,457)
Seat 2: rohanzsta (18,964)
Seat 3: Assani Fisher (31,892)
Seat 4: PJSNEAKS (31,552)
Seat 6: AA__FOLD__AA (24,720)
Seat 7: JimmyG_415 (15,465)
Seat 8: Rob_Gol1 (77,714)
johnny3600 antes 250
rohanzsta antes 250
Assani Fisher antes 250
PJSNEAKS antes 250
AA__FOLD__AA antes 250
JimmyG_415 antes 250
Rob_Gol1 antes 250
PJSNEAKS posts the small blind of 1,000
AA__FOLD__AA posts the big blind of 2,000
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Assani Fisher [Jd Jh]
JimmyG_415 folds
Rob_Gol1 folds
johnny3600 folds
rohanzsta folds
Assani Fisher raises to 6,000
PJSNEAKS folds
AA__FOLD__AA calls 4,000
*** FLOP *** [4h 7d Qc]
AA__FOLD__AA bets 4,000
Assani Fisher calls 4,000
*** TURN *** [4h 7d Qc] [2d]
AA__FOLD__AA checks
Assani Fisher checks
*** RIVER *** [4h 7d Qc 2d] [Qd]
AA__FOLD__AA bets 4,000
Assani Fisher has 15 seconds left to act
Assani Fisher raises to 21,642, and is all in
AA__FOLD__AA has 15 seconds left to act
AA__FOLD__AA calls 10,470, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 7,172 returned to Assani Fisher
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Assani Fisher shows [Jd Jh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
AA__FOLD__AA mucks
Assani Fisher wins the pot (51,690) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
AA__FOLD__AA stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 51,690 | Rake 0
Board: [4h 7d Qc 2d Qd]
Seat 1: johnny3600 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: rohanzsta folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Assani Fisher (button) showed [Jd Jh] and won (51,690) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 4: PJSNEAKS (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: AA__FOLD__AA (big blind) mucked [Ts Th] - two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 7: JimmyG_415 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Rob_Gol1 folded before the Flop
edited to add: btw I came close to folding on the flop and actually would've if the bet wasn't so ridiculously low.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2474803080: $18,000 Guarantee (18326550), Table 17 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:34:13 ET - 2007/05/21
Seat 1: johnny3600 (27,457)
Seat 2: rohanzsta (18,964)
Seat 3: Assani Fisher (31,892)
Seat 4: PJSNEAKS (31,552)
Seat 6: AA__FOLD__AA (24,720)
Seat 7: JimmyG_415 (15,465)
Seat 8: Rob_Gol1 (77,714)
johnny3600 antes 250
rohanzsta antes 250
Assani Fisher antes 250
PJSNEAKS antes 250
AA__FOLD__AA antes 250
JimmyG_415 antes 250
Rob_Gol1 antes 250
PJSNEAKS posts the small blind of 1,000
AA__FOLD__AA posts the big blind of 2,000
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Assani Fisher [Jd Jh]
JimmyG_415 folds
Rob_Gol1 folds
johnny3600 folds
rohanzsta folds
Assani Fisher raises to 6,000
PJSNEAKS folds
AA__FOLD__AA calls 4,000
*** FLOP *** [4h 7d Qc]
AA__FOLD__AA bets 4,000
Assani Fisher calls 4,000
*** TURN *** [4h 7d Qc] [2d]
AA__FOLD__AA checks
Assani Fisher checks
*** RIVER *** [4h 7d Qc 2d] [Qd]
AA__FOLD__AA bets 4,000
Assani Fisher has 15 seconds left to act
Assani Fisher raises to 21,642, and is all in
AA__FOLD__AA has 15 seconds left to act
AA__FOLD__AA calls 10,470, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 7,172 returned to Assani Fisher
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Assani Fisher shows [Jd Jh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
AA__FOLD__AA mucks
Assani Fisher wins the pot (51,690) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
AA__FOLD__AA stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 51,690 | Rake 0
Board: [4h 7d Qc 2d Qd]
Seat 1: johnny3600 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: rohanzsta folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Assani Fisher (button) showed [Jd Jh] and won (51,690) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 4: PJSNEAKS (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: AA__FOLD__AA (big blind) mucked [Ts Th] - two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 7: JimmyG_415 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Rob_Gol1 folded before the Flop
edited to add: btw I came close to folding on the flop and actually would've if the bet wasn't so ridiculously low.
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