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[Assani Fisher]

wow...so waiting for relatives to arrive for XMas lunch so I can't start any tourneys and no O8 games are running, so I jump into 4 $5/10 NLHE tables on Stars. Villian in the hand is a regular at $5/10, playing at all 4 tables, and is generally pretty aggressive. To give you one example of his play:

PokerStars Game #14087893839: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/12/25 - 10:02:37 (ET)

Table 'Orthosie' 9-max Seat #1 is the button

Seat 1: Dsnyder9521 ($1920.75 in chips)

Seat 2: Tru_Dat ($1259 in chips)

Seat 3: highfloor33 ($590 in chips)

Seat 4: Big_Nemo ($1445.50 in chips)

Seat 5: esprit ($990 in chips)

Seat 6: Dostojewski ($740.60 in chips)

Seat 7: lucky karma ($1316.50 in chips)

Seat 8: krashair ($287 in chips)

Seat 9: jwvdcw ($1000 in chips)

Tru_Dat: posts small blind $5

highfloor33: posts big blind $10

jwvdcw: posts big blind $10

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [5c 3h]

Big_Nemo: folds

esprit: calls $10

Dostojewski: folds

lucky karma: calls $10

krashair: folds

jwvdcw: checks

Dsnyder9521: folds

Tru_Dat: raises $80 to $90

highfloor33: folds

esprit: folds

lucky karma: calls $80

jwvdcw: folds

*** FLOP *** [6d Kd Kc]

Tru_Dat: bets $40

lucky karma: calls $40

*** TURN *** [6d Kd Kc] [7c]

Tru_Dat: bets $220

lucky karma: calls $220

*** RIVER *** [6d Kd Kc 7c] [8c]

Tru_Dat: bets $530

lucky karma: raises $436.50 to $966.50 and is all-in

Tru_Dat: calls $379 and is all-in

*** SHOW DOWN ***

lucky karma: shows [Td 9d] (a straight, Six to Ten)

Tru_Dat: shows [Ac Qc] (a flush, Ace high)

Tru_Dat collected $2545 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot $2548 | Rake $3

Board [6d Kd Kc 7c 8c]

Seat 1: Dsnyder9521 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: Tru_Dat (small blind) showed [Ac Qc] and won ($2545) with a flush, Ace high

Seat 3: highfloor33 (big blind) folded before Flop

Seat 4: Big_Nemo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: esprit folded before Flop

Seat 6: Dostojewski folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: lucky karma showed [Td 9d] and lost with a straight, Six to Ten

Seat 8: krashair folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 9: jwvdcw folded before Flop

I had been pretty inactive at all 4 tables- within $100 of my $1000 buy in on all of them. Heres the hand:

PokerStars Game #14088120872: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/12/25 - 10:21:23 (ET)

Table 'Laomedon IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the button

Seat 1: ty_mofo ($1000 in chips)

Seat 2: JJ Okocha ($1398 in chips)

Seat 4: Dostojewski ($466.20 in chips)

Seat 5: tjbentham ($1002 in chips)

Seat 6: L10NSDEN10 ($590 in chips)

Seat 7: Tru_Dat ($1049.50 in chips)

Seat 8: jwvdcw ($990 in chips)

Seat 9: KtheKing ($940 in chips)

KtheKing: posts small blind $5

ty_mofo: posts big blind $10

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to jwvdcw [3c 3s]

JJ Okocha: folds

Dostojewski: folds

tjbentham: folds

L10NSDEN10: folds

Tru_Dat: raises $20 to $30

jwvdcw: calls $30

KtheKing: folds

ty_mofo: folds

*** FLOP *** [2d 2s Jd]

Tru_Dat: bets $30

jwvdcw: calls $30

*** TURN *** [2d 2s Jd] [2h]

Tru_Dat: bets $20

jwvdcw: calls $20

*** RIVER *** [2d 2s Jd 2h] [3h]

Tru_Dat: bets $969.50 and is all-in

whats your move? Results will be posted in next post, so people can respond without seeing them if they desire.

 

[Assani Fisher]

Results:

jwvdcw: calls $910 and is all-in

*** SHOW DOWN ***

Tru_Dat: shows [9d Qd] (three of a kind, Deuces)

jwvdcw: shows [3c 3s] (a full house, Threes full of Deuces)

jwvdcw collected $1992 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot $1995 | Rake $3

Board [2d 2s Jd 2h 3h]

Seat 1: ty_mofo (big blind) folded before Flop

Seat 2: JJ Okocha folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 4: Dostojewski folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: tjbentham folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: L10NSDEN10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: Tru_Dat showed [9d Qd] and lost with three of a kind, Deuces

Seat 8: jwvdcw (button) showed [3c 3s] and won ($1992) with a full house, Threes full of Deuces

Seat 9: KtheKing (small blind) folded before Flop

 

[tribecalledjeff]

wow...so waiting for relatives to arrive for XMas lunch so I can't start any tourneys and no O8 games are running, so I jump into 4 $5/10 NLHE tables on Stars. Villian in the hand is a regular at $5/10, playing at all 4 tables, and is generally pretty aggressive. To give you one example of his playokerStars Game #14087893839: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/12/25 - 10:02:37 (ET)Table 'Orthosie' 9-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: Dsnyder9521 ($1920.75 in chips) Seat 2: Tru_Dat ($1259 in chips) Seat 3: highfloor33 ($590 in chips) Seat 4: Big_Nemo ($1445.50 in chips) Seat 5: esprit ($990 in chips) Seat 6: Dostojewski ($740.60 in chips) Seat 7: lucky karma ($1316.50 in chips) Seat 8: krashair ($287 in chips) Seat 9: jwvdcw ($1000 in chips) Tru_Dat: posts small blind $5highfloor33: posts big blind $10jwvdcw: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jwvdcw [5c 3h]Big_Nemo: folds esprit: calls $10Dostojewski: folds lucky karma: calls $10krashair: folds jwvdcw: checks Dsnyder9521: folds Tru_Dat: raises $80 to $90highfloor33: folds esprit: folds lucky karma: calls $80jwvdcw: folds *** FLOP *** [6d Kd Kc]Tru_Dat: bets $40lucky karma: calls $40*** TURN *** [6d Kd Kc] [7c]Tru_Dat: bets $220lucky karma: calls $220*** RIVER *** [6d Kd Kc 7c] [8c]Tru_Dat: bets $530lucky karma: raises $436.50 to $966.50 and is all-inTru_Dat: calls $379 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***lucky karma: shows [Td 9d] (a straight, Six to Ten)Tru_Dat: shows [Ac Qc] (a flush, Ace high)Tru_Dat collected $2545 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $2548 | Rake $3 Board [6d Kd Kc 7c 8c]Seat 1: Dsnyder9521 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Tru_Dat (small blind) showed [Ac Qc] and won ($2545) with a flush, Ace highSeat 3: highfloor33 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: Big_Nemo folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: esprit folded before FlopSeat 6: Dostojewski folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: lucky karma showed [Td 9d] and lost with a straight, Six to TenSeat 8: krashair folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: jwvdcw folded before FlopI had been pretty inactive at all 4 tables- within $100 of my $1000 buy in on all of them. Heres the handokerStars Game #14088120872: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/12/25 - 10:21:23 (ET)Table 'Laomedon IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: ty_mofo ($1000 in chips) Seat 2: JJ Okocha ($1398 in chips) Seat 4: Dostojewski ($466.20 in chips) Seat 5: tjbentham ($1002 in chips) Seat 6: L10NSDEN10 ($590 in chips) Seat 7: Tru_Dat ($1049.50 in chips) Seat 8: jwvdcw ($990 in chips) Seat 9: KtheKing ($940 in chips) KtheKing: posts small blind $5ty_mofo: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jwvdcw [3c 3s]JJ Okocha: folds Dostojewski: folds tjbentham: folds L10NSDEN10: folds Tru_Dat: raises $20 to $30jwvdcw: calls $30KtheKing: folds ty_mofo: folds *** FLOP *** [2d 2s Jd]Tru_Dat: bets $30jwvdcw: calls $30*** TURN *** [2d 2s Jd] [2h]Tru_Dat: bets $20jwvdcw: calls $20*** RIVER *** [2d 2s Jd 2h] [3h]Tru_Dat: bets $969.50 and is all-inwhats your move? Results will be posted in next post, so people can respond without seeing them if they desire.

Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but as long as one is playing within their bankroll isn't this a very easy call?

 

[Assani Fisher]

wow...so waiting for relatives to arrive for XMas lunch so I can't start any tourneys and no O8 games are running, so I jump into 4 $5/10 NLHE tables on Stars. Villian in the hand is a regular at $5/10, playing at all 4 tables, and is generally pretty aggressive. To give you one example of his playokerStars Game #14087893839: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/12/25 - 10:02:37 (ET)Table 'Orthosie' 9-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: Dsnyder9521 ($1920.75 in chips) Seat 2: Tru_Dat ($1259 in chips) Seat 3: highfloor33 ($590 in chips) Seat 4: Big_Nemo ($1445.50 in chips) Seat 5: esprit ($990 in chips) Seat 6: Dostojewski ($740.60 in chips) Seat 7: lucky karma ($1316.50 in chips) Seat 8: krashair ($287 in chips) Seat 9: jwvdcw ($1000 in chips) Tru_Dat: posts small blind $5highfloor33: posts big blind $10jwvdcw: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jwvdcw [5c 3h]Big_Nemo: folds esprit: calls $10Dostojewski: folds lucky karma: calls $10krashair: folds jwvdcw: checks Dsnyder9521: folds Tru_Dat: raises $80 to $90highfloor33: folds esprit: folds lucky karma: calls $80jwvdcw: folds *** FLOP *** [6d Kd Kc]Tru_Dat: bets $40lucky karma: calls $40*** TURN *** [6d Kd Kc] [7c]Tru_Dat: bets $220lucky karma: calls $220*** RIVER *** [6d Kd Kc 7c] [8c]Tru_Dat: bets $530lucky karma: raises $436.50 to $966.50 and is all-inTru_Dat: calls $379 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***lucky karma: shows [Td 9d] (a straight, Six to Ten)Tru_Dat: shows [Ac Qc] (a flush, Ace high)Tru_Dat collected $2545 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $2548 | Rake $3 Board [6d Kd Kc 7c 8c]Seat 1: Dsnyder9521 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: Tru_Dat (small blind) showed [Ac Qc] and won ($2545) with a flush, Ace highSeat 3: highfloor33 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: Big_Nemo folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: esprit folded before FlopSeat 6: Dostojewski folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: lucky karma showed [Td 9d] and lost with a straight, Six to TenSeat 8: krashair folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: jwvdcw folded before FlopI had been pretty inactive at all 4 tables- within $100 of my $1000 buy in on all of them. Heres the handokerStars Game #14088120872: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/12/25 - 10:21:23 (ET)Table 'Laomedon IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: ty_mofo ($1000 in chips) Seat 2: JJ Okocha ($1398 in chips) Seat 4: Dostojewski ($466.20 in chips) Seat 5: tjbentham ($1002 in chips) Seat 6: L10NSDEN10 ($590 in chips) Seat 7: Tru_Dat ($1049.50 in chips) Seat 8: jwvdcw ($990 in chips) Seat 9: KtheKing ($940 in chips) KtheKing: posts small blind $5ty_mofo: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to jwvdcw [3c 3s]JJ Okocha: folds Dostojewski: folds tjbentham: folds L10NSDEN10: folds Tru_Dat: raises $20 to $30jwvdcw: calls $30KtheKing: folds ty_mofo: folds *** FLOP *** [2d 2s Jd]Tru_Dat: bets $30jwvdcw: calls $30*** TURN *** [2d 2s Jd] [2h]Tru_Dat: bets $20jwvdcw: calls $20*** RIVER *** [2d 2s Jd 2h] [3h]Tru_Dat: bets $969.50 and is all-inwhats your move? Results will be posted in next post, so people can respond without seeing them if they desire.

Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but as long as one is playing within their bankroll isn't this a very easy call?

Bankroll is fine for these limits so that wasn't a concern. What hands do you think hes drastically overbetting the pot with? What does he put me on? Most players at these levels imo would not pay off an overpair with just a jack unless they thought a bluff was possible. Him having a two is a distinct possibility. JJ is as well. I did call FWIW, but calling your entire stack against when a good thinking player makes a huge overbet is never an easy decision without the nuts imo.

 

[bostonfred]

I understand that it's a ridiculous, massive overbet, but it's a ridiculous, massive overbet he would have made with a lot of hands. His previous underbets were indicative of a drawing hand, much like how he raised to 90 preflop then lead bet his flush draw for just 40 postflop. Here he lead bet for 30 with the flush draw, then underbet for 20 on the turn when he missed. So a busted flush draw is certainly in his range. A jack might do this, too, hoping that you would call with any pocket pair. A pocket pair bigger than jacks would definitely do this, hoping you had a jack. A mid pocket pair probably wouldn't. All of those hands are reasonably ahead of your calling range, and you're way ahead of all of those hands. The only hands you can't beat are pocket jacks or any deuce. There are three combinations of pocket jacks, but there are many more combinations of the pocket pairs. A bare deuce with any kicker would also do this. There's 45 combinations that would include a bare deuce. But a bare jack would do the same, and there are three times as many combinations that include a jack. In other words, you're a 3 to 1 favorite on made hands that would shove here, if you assume that they're all equally likely. And this doesn't even count busted flush draws, AK, pocket tens, etc. Given that, even if you think it's three times as likely that he'd do this with quads as that he'd do it with a jack or better, it's still a good call. You'd have to have a tighter read on him to make this laydown, IMO.

 

[bostonfred]

By the way, the fact that he's played against you before means he probably knows you'll make the big laydown, and even consider this kind of laydown. And that makes this a profitable play for him in the long term. If the river had been a blank, you'd have let this go without another thought. How many times do you think he's going to win $175 for each time he loses $970 against an average player? What about one who would consider folding the third nuts on an exceptionally dry board like this? Would you have called with pocket queens? pocket tens? He's going to get all but a very few hands to fold here, and you certainly didn't play like you had any of them. I like the play from him, even though it's not my style.

 

[Assani Fisher]

By the way, the fact that he's played against you before means he probably knows you'll make the big laydown, and even consider this kind of laydown. And that makes this a profitable play for him in the long term. If the river had been a blank, you'd have let this go without another thought. How many times do you think he's going to win $175 for each time he loses $970 against an average player? What about one who would consider folding the third nuts on an exceptionally dry board like this? Would you have called with pocket queens? pocket tens? He's going to get all but a very few hands to fold here, and you certainly didn't play like you had any of them. I like the play from him, even though it's not my style.

I like this line of thought a lot, and it make me understand both his play and why I have to call.

I understand that it's a ridiculous, massive overbet, but it's a ridiculous, massive overbet he would have made with a lot of hands. His previous underbets were indicative of a drawing hand, much like how he raised to 90 preflop then lead bet his flush draw for just 40 postflop. Here he lead bet for 30 with the flush draw, then underbet for 20 on the turn when he missed. So a busted flush draw is certainly in his range. A jack might do this, too, hoping that you would call with any pocket pair. A pocket pair bigger than jacks would definitely do this, hoping you had a jack. A mid pocket pair probably wouldn't. All of those hands are reasonably ahead of your calling range, and you're way ahead of all of those hands. The only hands you can't beat are pocket jacks or any deuce. There are three combinations of pocket jacks, but there are many more combinations of the pocket pairs. A bare deuce with any kicker would also do this. There's 45 combinations that would include a bare deuce. But a bare jack would do the same, and there are three times as many combinations that include a jack. In other words, you're a 3 to 1 favorite on made hands that would shove here, if you assume that they're all equally likely. And this doesn't even count busted flush draws, AK, pocket tens, etc. Given that, even if you think it's three times as likely that he'd do this with quads as that he'd do it with a jack or better, it's still a good call. You'd have to have a tighter read on him to make this laydown, IMO.

With just a jack, I would think he would value bet more. With an overpair, I would think that his turn bet would've been bigger, no?His small turn bet does seem weak, which is why I feared him having a two- he had just caught an unbeatable hand and perhaps wanted to seem weak.

Overall, I do agree though.

 

[fasteddie_21]

If he has the deuce, I could see him playing it this way. Yeti theorm right? Noone EVER folds a full house, hence the huge overbet/push. This is either the nuts or air and very seldomly anything in between. This is true 99.9% of the time online. A good player will overbet the nuts trying to induce a call from a weaker hand (ie. Jx). Him knowing that you're a good player as well would factor into this as well. Obviously, had you not spiked a 3, you have to fold this, but it's an incredibly tough spot and you're ahead of his range since a bluff makes up sooooo much of it, but I don't LIKE calling, but I think you have to here.

 

[Assani Fisher]

By the way, the fact that he's played against you before means he probably knows you'll make the big laydown, and even consider this kind of laydown. And that makes this a profitable play for him in the long term. If the river had been a blank, you'd have let this go without another thought. How many times do you think he's going to win $175 for each time he loses $970 against an average player? What about one who would consider folding the third nuts on an exceptionally dry board like this? Would you have called with pocket queens? pocket tens? He's going to get all but a very few hands to fold here, and you certainly didn't play like you had any of them. I like the play from him, even though it's not my style.

I like this line of thought a lot, and it make me understand both his play and why I have to call.

Let me amend this a bit...while I understand his play, I hate it. I think a bet of $300 would've accomplished just as much regarding getting me to fold any non-jack/non-two. Maybe a bet of $500 would've gotten a jack out. I simply don't see the need to risk so much.

 

[Assani Fisher]

If he has the deuce, I could see him playing it this way. Yeti theorm right? Noone EVER folds a full house, hence the huge overbet/push. This is either the nuts or air and very seldomly anything in between. This is true 99.9% of the time online. A good player will overbet the nuts trying to induce a call from a weaker hand (ie. Jx). Him knowing that you're a good player as well would factor into this as well. Obviously, had you not spiked a 3, you have to fold this, but it's an incredibly tough spot and you're ahead of his range since a bluff makes up sooooo much of it, but I don't LIKE calling, but I think you have to here.

Merry Christmas, friend.

 

[fasteddie_21]

If he has the deuce, I could see him playing it this way. Yeti theorm right? Noone EVER folds a full house, hence the huge overbet/push. This is either the nuts or air and very seldomly anything in between. This is true 99.9% of the time online. A good player will overbet the nuts trying to induce a call from a weaker hand (ie. Jx). Him knowing that you're a good player as well would factor into this as well. Obviously, had you not spiked a 3, you have to fold this, but it's an incredibly tough spot and you're ahead of his range since a bluff makes up sooooo much of it, but I don't LIKE calling, but I think you have to here.

Merry Christmas, friend.

You too. And @ "i return phone calls, just not punctually." So very true Merry Christmas and gimme a call sometime.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

If he has the deuce, I could see him playing it this way. Yeti theorm right? Noone EVER folds a full house, hence the huge overbet/push. This is either the nuts or air and very seldomly anything in between. This is true 99.9% of the time online. A good player will overbet the nuts trying to induce a call from a weaker hand (ie. Jx). Him knowing that you're a good player as well would factor into this as well. Obviously, had you not spiked a 3, you have to fold this, but it's an incredibly tough spot and you're ahead of his range since a bluff makes up sooooo much of it, but I don't LIKE calling, but I think you have to here.

I agree. He either has a deuce or nothing. An overpair or J-A makes a value bet. I don't like the play from him. He's risking alot to win a little. I would have to put him on a deuce if I hadn't played against him before, so unless I had a good read on him I would probably dump my hand.

 

[Alias]

You may give him too much credit, AF. The first hand you posted of him showed him to be pretty reckless betting like that OOP and he is lucky his miracle card showed up on the river to give him the better made hand; if he is going up against a boat, villain probably slow plays the hand the same way.

In the second hand I would expect a similar type of value bet if he thought he was best, granted this is going off of an extremely small sample size of 1 HH. Seems like the type of guy you want at your table to bet heavily into you when you make a hand so you can stack him.

I assume if he bets anything of significance on the turn you are folding, it looks like straight forward poker; he even makes a smaller bet on the turn since he sees his possible flush being 2nd best against a boat now if you have a J or PP.

He definitely does not fear the boat on paired boards.

 

[bostonfred]

By the way, the fact that he's played against you before means he probably knows you'll make the big laydown, and even consider this kind of laydown. And that makes this a profitable play for him in the long term. If the river had been a blank, you'd have let this go without another thought. How many times do you think he's going to win $175 for each time he loses $970 against an average player? What about one who would consider folding the third nuts on an exceptionally dry board like this? Would you have called with pocket queens? pocket tens? He's going to get all but a very few hands to fold here, and you certainly didn't play like you had any of them. I like the play from him, even though it's not my style.

I like this line of thought a lot, and it make me understand both his play and why I have to call.

Let me amend this a bit...while I understand his play, I hate it. I think a bet of $300 would've accomplished just as much regarding getting me to fold any non-jack/non-two. Maybe a bet of $500 would've gotten a jack out. I simply don't see the need to risk so much.

I agree that I hate it if he only does it when he has a weak unmade hand like Q9. But what happens if he does it with a wide range of hands? For example, if he has a medium strength hand like 99, TT, or AJ, if he bets out for $300, and you raise him, he has the tough decision. That's not good for him. What if he has QQ-AA? A shove gives him a great chance of getting called by a jack or maybe even worse. Shoving into a small pot on the river is a good play from a game theory perspective if you also do it with the nuts (or close to it) the correct percentage of the time. Just like you have to put him on a range of hands where he would do this, he maximizes his long term profit when he makes the same play with a range of hands. In this case, unfortunately for him, you called him with the strong end of your range against the weak end of his. But in the long run, it may still be a good play. Plus, if he shoves and then shows, he stands a better chance of getting called next time he makes that move. Maybe he likes to shove when he has the absolute nuts, and this time, he figures he's playing against someone who will make the big laydown, so he plans on showing the bluff to improve his chance of getting called when he shoves with the nuts into a small pot in the future. The way he weak leads into small pots with the nut draw, he needs to set this up or he'll never get called when he hits. And you'd been playing the hand so weakly up until then. And it's reasonably to think you had a foldable small or middle pair. You didn't act like you had trips, an overpair, or a jack on the flop, with the diamond draw out there. So he didn't think he had to fear quads or a jack. He had no way of knowing that you rivered the boat. He had every reason to think you were dropping this hand, at which point he can show the table, and hopefully you all take notes so he can trap you next time. It's not my style of play, but I don't hate it.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

I had no idea Full Tilt was doubling full tilt points for play between last week and Jan 4, I have earned an extra 1k but had I known that number could be way higher

 

[Assani Fisher]

By the way, the fact that he's played against you before means he probably knows you'll make the big laydown, and even consider this kind of laydown. And that makes this a profitable play for him in the long term. If the river had been a blank, you'd have let this go without another thought. How many times do you think he's going to win $175 for each time he loses $970 against an average player? What about one who would consider folding the third nuts on an exceptionally dry board like this? Would you have called with pocket queens? pocket tens? He's going to get all but a very few hands to fold here, and you certainly didn't play like you had any of them. I like the play from him, even though it's not my style.

I like this line of thought a lot, and it make me understand both his play and why I have to call.

Let me amend this a bit...while I understand his play, I hate it. I think a bet of $300 would've accomplished just as much regarding getting me to fold any non-jack/non-two. Maybe a bet of $500 would've gotten a jack out. I simply don't see the need to risk so much.

I agree that I hate it if he only does it when he has a weak unmade hand like Q9. But what happens if he does it with a wide range of hands? For example, if he has a medium strength hand like 99, TT, or AJ, if he bets out for $300, and you raise him, he has the tough decision. That's not good for him. What if he has QQ-AA? A shove gives him a great chance of getting called by a jack or maybe even worse. Shoving into a small pot on the river is a good play from a game theory perspective if you also do it with the nuts (or close to it) the correct percentage of the time. Just like you have to put him on a range of hands where he would do this, he maximizes his long term profit when he makes the same play with a range of hands. In this case, unfortunately for him, you called him with the strong end of your range against the weak end of his. But in the long run, it may still be a good play. Plus, if he shoves and then shows, he stands a better chance of getting called next time he makes that move. Maybe he likes to shove when he has the absolute nuts, and this time, he figures he's playing against someone who will make the big laydown, so he plans on showing the bluff to improve his chance of getting called when he shoves with the nuts into a small pot in the future. The way he weak leads into small pots with the nut draw, he needs to set this up or he'll never get called when he hits. And you'd been playing the hand so weakly up until then. And it's reasonably to think you had a foldable small or middle pair. You didn't act like you had trips, an overpair, or a jack on the flop, with the diamond draw out there. So he didn't think he had to fear quads or a jack. He had no way of knowing that you rivered the boat. He had every reason to think you were dropping this hand, at which point he can show the table, and hopefully you all take notes so he can trap you next time. It's not my style of play, but I don't hate it.

I understand what you're saying but I think "setting up for future plays" is overrated. I think that he can bet $300 on a bluff(which looks just like his value bet in the other hand) and shove with a 2 and still get the desired effect....unless he repeatedly did exactly this(and he didn't since he didn't shove on hand #1) then I'd never be able to know for sure.Sklansky has a line that I'll paraphrase here: "You only have to switch up your play some of the time in order to not give your opponents a betting pattern tell."I like the quote a lot because I think a ton of people think otherwise- that they have to always be mixing up their play and staying hard to read.

 

[Assani Fisher]

I had no idea Full Tilt was doubling full tilt points for play between last week and Jan 4, I have earned an extra 1k but had I known that number could be way higher

hmmmm...had no clue either.

 

[fasteddie_21]

I had no idea Full Tilt was doubling full tilt points for play between last week and Jan 4, I have earned an extra 1k but had I known that number could be way higher

hmmmm...had no clue either.

If it has to do w/ FT, just ask me ppl. Sheesh.maybe if you called/returned a phone call, I could have told you Damn, woman! Go make me a sammich!

 

[Gadfly]

I knew but I really haven't played any more than usual. Still getting some nice extra points, I guess. I got a gps with ft points and then, two months later, they had a bunch of new models. That was annoying.

Next month you can potentially clear a big bonus from full tilt that won't affect your rakeback if you've been active this year in getting iron man status. My potential bonus is going to be $1,050.

 

[Assani Fisher]

At Final Table of the Turbo Hundo on Full Tilt...such a fast paced tourney, really a crapshoot.

Full Tilt $109 NLHE Dec 26 3:01

 

[Assani Fisher]

8 left, at least $600 now

 

[fasteddie_21]

At Final Table of the Turbo Hundo on Full Tilt...such a fast paced tourney, really a crapshoot.Full Tilt $109 NLHE Dec 26 3:01

Sweating, sorta.Please bust FundMy Audi...he's such a nit at 100NL & 200NL.

 

[Assani Fisher]

7 left, $760 now

 

[fasteddie_21]

LOL...vn gutter sir.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4628294995: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:57:23 ET - 2007/12/26

Seat 1: Pimpnuho (67,497)

Seat 2: pukeybaby (43,107)

Seat 5: vastu (73,150)

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (53,250)

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (57,636)

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (36,100)

Seat 9: Blojer (103,260)

Pimpnuho antes 600

pukeybaby antes 600

vastu antes 600

Assani Fisher antes 600

FundMyAudi antes 600

PiquetteAces antes 600

Blojer antes 600

FundMyAudi posts the small blind of 2,500

PiquetteAces posts the big blind of 5,000

The button is in seat #6

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Blojer folds

Pimpnuho folds

pukeybaby folds

Pimpnuho: he plays like one

Pimpnuho: 2 4

vastu has 15 seconds left to act

Pimpnuho: LOL

vastu raises to 14,500

Pimpnuho: tough guy

Assani Fisher raises to 52,650, and is all in

Pimpnuho: HEY

FundMyAudi raises to 57,036, and is all in

PiquetteAces folds

Pimpnuho: wanna play 2 4

Pimpnuho: BUDDY

vastu has 15 seconds left to act

vastu has requested TIME

Pimpnuho: I smell fish

Pimpnuho: n Audi girl aint here

Pimpnuho: call

Pimpnuho: NIT

Pimpnuho: u want to win?

vastu calls 42,536

FundMyAudi shows [Ks Ah]

vastu shows [Tc Kc]

Assani Fisher shows [7s 7c]

*** FLOP *** [8h 5d 4d]

*** TURN *** [8h 5d 4d] [Ad]

*** RIVER *** [8h 5d 4d Ad] [6s]

FundMyAudi shows a pair of Aces

vastu shows Ace King high

Pimpnuho: What a donk call

FundMyAudi wins the side pot (8,772) with a pair of Aces

Assani Fisher shows a straight, Eight high

Assani Fisher wins the main pot (167,150) with a straight, Eight high

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 175,922 Main pot 167,150. Side pot 8,772. | Rake 0

Board: [8h 5d 4d Ad 6s]

Seat 1: Pimpnuho folded before the Flop

Seat 2: pukeybaby folded before the Flop

Seat 5: vastu showed [Tc Kc] and lost with Ace King high

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (button) showed [7s 7c] and won (167,150) with a straight, Eight high

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (small blind) showed [Ks Ah] and won (8,772) with a pair of Aces

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (big blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 9: Blojer folded before the Flop

 

[Assani Fisher]

At Final Table of the Turbo Hundo on Full Tilt...such a fast paced tourney, really a crapshoot.Full Tilt $109 NLHE Dec 26 3:01

Sweating, sorta.Please bust FundMy Audi...he's such a nit at 100NL & 200NL.

just for you, gbFull Tilt Poker Game #4628294995: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:57:23 ET - 2007/12/26Seat 1: Pimpnuho (67,497)Seat 2: pukeybaby (43,107)Seat 5: vastu (73,150)Seat 6: Assani Fisher (53,250)Seat 7: FundMyAudi (57,636)Seat 8: PiquetteAces (36,100)Seat 9: Blojer (103,260)Pimpnuho antes 600pukeybaby antes 600vastu antes 600Assani Fisher antes 600FundMyAudi antes 600PiquetteAces antes 600Blojer antes 600FundMyAudi posts the small blind of 2,500PiquetteAces posts the big blind of 5,000The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Assani Fisher [7s 7c]Blojer foldsPimpnuho foldspukeybaby foldsPimpnuho: he plays like onePimpnuho: 2 4vastu has 15 seconds left to actPimpnuho: LOLvastu raises to 14,500Pimpnuho: tough guyAssani Fisher raises to 52,650, and is all inPimpnuho: HEYFundMyAudi raises to 57,036, and is all inPiquetteAces foldsPimpnuho: wanna play 2 4Pimpnuho: BUDDYvastu has 15 seconds left to actvastu has requested TIMEPimpnuho: I smell fishPimpnuho: n Audi girl aint herePimpnuho: callPimpnuho: NITPimpnuho: u want to win?vastu calls 42,536FundMyAudi shows [Ks Ah]vastu shows [Tc Kc]Assani Fisher shows [7s 7c]*** FLOP *** [8h 5d 4d]*** TURN *** [8h 5d 4d] [Ad]*** RIVER *** [8h 5d 4d Ad] [6s]FundMyAudi shows a pair of Acesvastu shows Ace King highPimpnuho: What a donk callFundMyAudi wins the side pot (8,772) with a pair of AcesAssani Fisher shows a straight, Eight highAssani Fisher wins the main pot (167,150) with a straight, Eight high*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 175,922 Main pot 167,150. Side pot 8,772. | Rake 0Board: [8h 5d 4d Ad 6s]Seat 1: Pimpnuho folded before the FlopSeat 2: pukeybaby folded before the FlopSeat 5: vastu showed [Tc Kc] and lost with Ace King highSeat 6: Assani Fisher (button) showed [7s 7c] and won (167,150) with a straight, Eight highSeat 7: FundMyAudi (small blind) showed [Ks Ah] and won (8,772) with a pair of AcesSeat 8: PiquetteAces (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 9: Blojer folded before the Flop

 

[Assani Fisher]

hes still alive though...

Full Tilt Poker Game #4628299761: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:58:40 ET - 2007/12/26

Seat 1: Pimpnuho (66,897)

Seat 2: pukeybaby (42,507)

Seat 5: vastu (15,514)

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (167,150)

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (8,772)

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (30,500)

Seat 9: Blojer (102,660)

Pimpnuho antes 600

pukeybaby antes 600

vastu antes 600

Assani Fisher antes 600

FundMyAudi antes 600

PiquetteAces antes 600

Blojer antes 600

PiquetteAces posts the small blind of 2,500

Blojer posts the big blind of 5,000

The button is in seat #7

Pimpnuho: WOW what a donk call

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Assani Fisher [Td 8h]

Pimpnuho folds

Assani Fisher: OH HOT DAMN THATS ONE ICY POT!

pukeybaby raises to 41,907, and is all in

vastu folds

Assani Fisher folds

FundMyAudi calls 8,172, and is all in

PiquetteAces folds

Pimpnuho: Audi needs parts

Blojer folds

pukeybaby shows [6c Ac]

FundMyAudi shows [3c 9c]

Uncalled bet of 33,735 returned to pukeybaby

*** FLOP *** [3h Ts Qc]

*** TURN *** [3h Ts Qc] [4h]

*** RIVER *** [3h Ts Qc 4h] [9h]

pukeybaby shows Ace Queen high

FundMyAudi shows two pair, Nines and Threes

FundMyAudi wins the pot (28,044) with two pair, Nines and Threes

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 28,044 | Rake 0

Board: [3h Ts Qc 4h 9h]

Seat 1: Pimpnuho folded before the Flop

Seat 2: pukeybaby showed [6c Ac] and lost with Ace Queen high

Seat 5: vastu folded before the Flop

Seat 6: Assani Fisher folded before the Flop

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (button) showed [3c 9c] and won (28,044) with two pair, Nines and Threes

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 9: Blojer (big blind) folded before the Flop

 

[fasteddie_21]

Dude...its a turbo tourney...get on AIM yo. Damn, ya life nit

 

[fasteddie_21]

LOL donkaments:

Full Tilt Poker Game #4628310462: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:01:33 ET - 2007/12/26

Seat 1: Pimpnuho (43,897)

Seat 2: pukeybaby (69,242)

Seat 5: vastu (25,428)

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (140,929)

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (37,344)

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (25,000)

Seat 9: Blojer (92,160)

Pimpnuho antes 600

pukeybaby antes 600

vastu antes 600

Assani Fisher antes 600

FundMyAudi antes 600

PiquetteAces antes 600

Blojer antes 600

Assani Fisher posts the small blind of 2,500

FundMyAudi posts the big blind of 5,000

The button is in seat #5

*** HOLE CARDS ***

pukeybaby: uppppps

PiquetteAces folds

Blojer folds

Pimpnuho folds

pukeybaby folds

vastu raises to 24,828, and is all in

Assani Fisher raises to 44,656

FundMyAudi folds

Assani Fisher shows [8c 8d]

vastu shows [Ah Tc]

Uncalled bet of 19,828 returned to Assani Fisher

*** FLOP *** [8s 5s Js]

*** TURN *** [8s 5s Js] [6s]

*** RIVER *** [8s 5s Js 6s] [Ts]

Assani Fisher shows a flush, Jack high

vastu shows a flush, Jack high

Assani Fisher ties for the pot (29,428) with a flush, Jack high

vastu ties for the pot (29,428) with a flush, Jack high

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 58,856 | Rake 0

Board: [8s 5s Js 6s Ts]

Seat 1: Pimpnuho folded before the Flop

Seat 2: pukeybaby folded before the Flop

Seat 5: vastu (button) showed [Ah Tc] and won (29,428) with a flush, Jack high

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (small blind) showed [8c 8d] and won (29,428) with a flush, Jack high

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (big blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 8: PiquetteAces folded before the Flop

Seat 9: Blojer folded before the Flop

 

[Assani Fisher]

Dude...its a turbo tourney...get on AIM yo. Damn, ya life nit

haha, turbo means faster action and less time to talk...will sign on afterwards though

 

[Assani Fisher]

6 left, $1140 now!

 

[fasteddie_21]

You're still a life nit

Keep it going!

 

[fasteddie_21]

5 left...guaranteed $1573 now!

Full Tilt Poker Game #4628323243: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:05:01 ET - 2007/12/26

Seat 2: pukeybaby (112,989)

Seat 5: vastu (22,453)

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (152,204)

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (32,394)

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (36,500)

Seat 9: Blojer (77,460)

pukeybaby antes 750

vastu antes 750

Assani Fisher antes 750

FundMyAudi antes 750

PiquetteAces antes 750

Blojer antes 750

FundMyAudi posts the small blind of 3,000

PiquetteAces posts the big blind of 6,000

The button is in seat #6

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Blojer folds

pukeybaby folds

vastu has 15 seconds left to act

vastu folds

Assani Fisher raises to 151,454, and is all in

FundMyAudi folds

PiquetteAces calls 29,750, and is all in

Assani Fisher shows [Ac Ks]

PiquetteAces shows [Qh Kc]

Uncalled bet of 115,704 returned to Assani Fisher

*** FLOP *** [9c 5s Ah]

*** TURN *** [9c 5s Ah] [8c]

*** RIVER *** [9c 5s Ah 8c] [6s]

Assani Fisher shows a pair of Aces

PiquetteAces shows Ace King high

Assani Fisher wins the pot (79,000) with a pair of Aces

Assani Fisher: icy pots

PiquetteAces stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 79,000 | Rake 0

Board: [9c 5s Ah 8c 6s]

Seat 2: pukeybaby folded before the Flop

Seat 5: vastu folded before the Flop

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (button) showed [Ac Ks] and won (79,000) with a pair of Aces

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (big blind) showed [Qh Kc] and lost with Ace King high

Seat 9: Blojer folded before the Flop

 

[Assani Fisher]

5 left, $1580

Full Tilt Poker Game #4628323243: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:05:01 ET - 2007/12/26

Seat 2: pukeybaby (112,989)

Seat 5: vastu (22,453)

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (152,204)

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (32,394)

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (36,500)

Seat 9: Blojer (77,460)

pukeybaby antes 750

vastu antes 750

Assani Fisher antes 750

FundMyAudi antes 750

PiquetteAces antes 750

Blojer antes 750

FundMyAudi posts the small blind of 3,000

PiquetteAces posts the big blind of 6,000

The button is in seat #6

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Assani Fisher [Ac Ks]

Blojer folds

pukeybaby folds

vastu has 15 seconds left to act

vastu folds

Assani Fisher raises to 151,454, and is all in

FundMyAudi folds

PiquetteAces calls 29,750, and is all in

Assani Fisher shows [Ac Ks]

PiquetteAces shows [Qh Kc]

Uncalled bet of 115,704 returned to Assani Fisher

*** FLOP *** [9c 5s Ah]

*** TURN *** [9c 5s Ah] [8c]

*** RIVER *** [9c 5s Ah 8c] [6s]

Assani Fisher shows a pair of Aces

PiquetteAces shows Ace King high

Assani Fisher wins the pot (79,000) with a pair of Aces

Assani Fisher: icy pots

PiquetteAces stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 79,000 | Rake 0

Board: [9c 5s Ah 8c 6s]

Seat 2: pukeybaby folded before the Flop

Seat 5: vastu folded before the Flop

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (button) showed [Ac Ks] and won (79,000) with a pair of Aces

Seat 7: FundMyAudi (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 8: PiquetteAces (big blind) showed [Qh Kc] and lost with Ace King high

Seat 9: Blojer folded before the Flop

 

[fasteddie_21]

You play...i'll play post #####.

 

[Assani Fisher]

meh, break time....

 

[Assani Fisher]

You play...i'll play post #####.

alright, sounds good

 

[fasteddie_21]

Final break and Assani in full control w/ 5 left:

Assani: T182,000

Then: T125,000, T64,000, T44000, T19000.

GL GB!

 

[fasteddie_21]

Assani using his stack to bully using position. Nice pot there. Almost at 200k now w/ 2nd @ 82k.

 

[fasteddie_21]

4 left $2115+ now

 

[fasteddie_21]

Down to 3 and anyone's game: $2712.50 + now!

Full Tilt Poker Game #4628370298: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 5000/10000 Ante 1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:18:02 ET - 2007/12/26

Seat 2: pukeybaby (116,777)

Seat 5: vastu (110,618)

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (175,645)

Seat 9: Blojer (30,960)

pukeybaby antes 1,000

vastu antes 1,000

Assani Fisher antes 1,000

Blojer antes 1,000

pukeybaby posts the small blind of 5,000

vastu posts the big blind of 10,000

The button is in seat #9

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Assani Fisher folds

Blojer calls 10,000

pukeybaby calls 5,000

vastu checks

*** FLOP *** [9h Kc 4s]

pukeybaby checks

vastu has 15 seconds left to act

vastu bets 15,000

Blojer raises to 19,960, and is all in

pukeybaby folds

vastu calls 4,960

Blojer shows [Ad Ah]

vastu shows [Ks 2s]

*** TURN *** [9h Kc 4s] [9s]

*** RIVER *** [9h Kc 4s 9s] [5s]

Blojer shows two pair, Aces and Nines

vastu shows a flush, King high

vastu wins the pot (73,920) with a flush, King high

Blojer stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 73,920 | Rake 0

Board: [9h Kc 4s 9s 5s]

Seat 2: pukeybaby (small blind) folded on the Flop

Seat 5: vastu (big blind) showed [Ks 2s] and won (73,920) with a flush, King high

Seat 6: Assani Fisher folded before the Flop

Seat 9: Blojer (button) showed [Ad Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines

 

[fasteddie_21]

Heads up now! $3580 or $5642. GL GB!

Full Tilt Poker Game #4628374986: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 5000/10000 Ante 1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:19:20 ET - 2007/12/26

Seat 2: pukeybaby (104,777)

Seat 5: vastu (142,578)

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (186,645)

pukeybaby antes 1,000

vastu antes 1,000

Assani Fisher antes 1,000

Assani Fisher posts the small blind of 5,000

pukeybaby posts the big blind of 10,000

The button is in seat #5

*** HOLE CARDS ***

vastu has 15 seconds left to act

vastu raises to 25,000

Assani Fisher folds

pukeybaby raises to 103,777, and is all in

vastu calls 78,777

pukeybaby shows [Jd Kd]

vastu shows [Qd Ah]

*** FLOP *** [2s 4h 8c]

*** TURN *** [2s 4h 8c] [3h]

*** RIVER *** [2s 4h 8c 3h] [2c]

pukeybaby shows a pair of Twos

vastu shows a pair of Twos

vastu wins the pot (215,554) with a pair of Twos

pukeybaby stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 215,554 | Rake 0

Board: [2s 4h 8c 3h 2c]

Seat 2: pukeybaby (big blind) showed [Jd Kd] and lost with a pair of Twos

Seat 5: vastu (button) showed [Qd Ah] and won (215,554) with a pair of Twos

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (small blind) folded before the Flop

 

[fasteddie_21]

Ouch, heads up

Full Tilt Poker Game #4628390799: Turbo Hundo (34511010), Table 4 - 6000/12000 Ante 1500 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:23:45 ET - 2007/12/26

Seat 5: vastu (246,855)

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (187,145)

vastu antes 1,500

Assani Fisher antes 1,500

vastu posts the small blind of 6,000

Assani Fisher posts the big blind of 12,000

The button is in seat #5

*** HOLE CARDS ***

vastu calls 6,000

Assani Fisher raises to 96,000

vastu raises to 245,355, and is all in

Assani Fisher calls 89,645, and is all in

vastu shows [As Ad]

Assani Fisher shows [Ah 9h]

Uncalled bet of 59,710 returned to vastu

*** FLOP *** [6s Jh Kh]

*** TURN *** [6s Jh Kh] [7s]

*** RIVER *** [6s Jh Kh 7s] [3s]

vastu shows a pair of Aces

Assani Fisher shows Ace King high

vastu wins the pot (374,290) with a pair of Aces

Assani Fisher stands up

vastu stands up

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 374,290 | Rake 0

Board: [6s Jh Kh 7s 3s]

Seat 5: vastu (small blind) showed [As Ad] and won (374,290) with a pair of Aces

Seat 6: Assani Fisher (big blind) showed [Ah 9h] and lost with Ace King high

Still, GG bro and $3,580...nice haul. Amanda says good job and congrats too!

 

[Assani Fisher]

jeez....we played like 20 straight hands without a preflop raise or anything significant....so I really didn't think he'd try to trap since I wasn't raising preflop. Well he limped with AA and I had A9s..with blinds so big I just made a huge raise to take it down pf...of course he shoved and won. Oh well, not bad overall.

 

[Gadfly]

Whenever something like that happens and the flush draw comes on the flop to give you hope, it never hits. Don't tease us if you're not going to finish.

 

[Steeler]

You've been on quite a run in these tournies lately - Congrats!

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

You've been on quite a run in these tournies lately - Congrats!

 

[CGRdrJoe]

so I've come upon an interesting problem, I want to cash out but do not have a epassporte account. Has anyone else scanned in their drivers license and a bill and emailed that to them?

 

[The Ref]

jeez....we played like 20 straight hands without a preflop raise or anything significant....so I really didn't think he'd try to trap since I wasn't raising preflop. Well he limped with AA and I had A9s..with blinds so big I just made a huge raise to take it down pf...of course he shoved and won. Oh well, not bad overall.

Congrats AF!

 

[Rock Lonemilk]

so I've come upon an interesting problem, I want to cash out but do not have a epassporte account. Has anyone else scanned in their drivers license and a bill and emailed that to them?

What site and how much? I might be able to help if you have PayPal. Otherwise, couldn't you just request a check? I've never had a problem getting them.

 

[The Ref]

Results:jwvdcw: calls $910 and is all-in*** SHOW DOWN ***Tru_Dat: shows [9d Qd] (three of a kind, Deuces)jwvdcw: shows [3c 3s] (a full house, Threes full of Deuces)jwvdcw collected $1992 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $1995 | Rake $3 Board [2d 2s Jd 2h 3h]Seat 1: ty_mofo (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: JJ Okocha folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: Dostojewski folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: tjbentham folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: L10NSDEN10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: Tru_Dat showed [9d Qd] and lost with three of a kind, DeucesSeat 8: jwvdcw (button) showed [3c 3s] and won ($1992) with a full house, Threes full of DeucesSeat 9: KtheKing (small blind) folded before Flop

I said call as well, no doubt you had the best hand there.He raised so I doubt very much he had a 2 kicking around, A-J or JJ is a posibility preflop. Post turn is where he gave his hand away. He would not have bet only $20 after the turn with JJ or a 2 after you called $30 post flop. Only thing I am suprised with is that he didnt have A-K.