Auction redraft strategies (1 Viewer)

[Slapdash]

Exactly right. I'm going into tonight with Chubb ($5) and probably Kerryon Johnson ($16).  I'll basically walk in with the intent to spend up to $130 on a RB1/WR1 combo.  If I fail, I will mix in Kelce and more mid round types.

My haul (10 team PPR):

Rodgers (7)

Saquon (70), Chubb (5), K. Johnson (16), K. Drake (7),  D. Henderson (1)

Devante Adams (52), Diggs (23),  Marvin Jones (1), Pettis (4), Corey Davis (1), DK Metcalf (3)

Hunter Henry (8)

Rams (1)

Crosby (1)

Studs and Duds, my friends  

 

[shadrap]

Good luck to you tonight.   My local league has 1/2 of a PUB for our draft tonight.   Starts at 7:00 PM but everyone will be there by 5:30.  It's usually a pretty wild ride.  A lot of Viking's fans so Cook will go for $60.   Came out of it one year with 1 RB.   I had to add Blount for NE the next day as he went undrafted.  That was the year he had about 15 td's.  I was stupid at that draft but lucky in the add/drop.

12 team, PPR, standard roster lineup w/ flex.  4 pts passing TD.

Winston $3

Fournette $31,  Da. Freeman $29, Duke Johnson $9, La. Murray $9

Edelman $37, A. Cooper $35,  Lockett $24,  A. Robinson $9,  A.J.Green $6,  Larry Fitz $4.

D. Waller $1

K & Def.  $2

Short bench as only draft 14 players.

I have no outstanding stud-stud but pretty solid I think.

Here is to a good fantasy season to all of you.  Appreciate all the give & take & info from this forum.

Cheers!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FF Ninja]

I can't stand finishing a draft with money left over.  All I can think about is how I got cheap on some top tier players earlier.  That extra $5 left over could have been a big upgrade at a position.

I butchered (f---up) an auction 4 days ago.  Spent too much too early & watched guys I liked being bought for $3.00.   I'm still in mourning knowing this is my team for the next 3 months.  Will post my team & prices when I'm through grieving.  A few days.

These are the two extremes. I prefer to have the $5 leftover rather than be left watching multiple guys worth $12 going for $3. If your league is active, you can typically wait a few weeks and make some nice 2-for-1 trades. Sometimes you can do it right after the draft, but in my experience it usually takes a few weeks for the sting of trading a $20 player for two $3 players to go away.

Some leagues are so crazy/amateur that you can easily win it with just 75% of your budget because people go so top heavy that players within the same tier can have drastically different prices. So 15% might only be the difference between RB12 and RB10 and 10% could be the difference between QB4 and QB7. The difference is that later on you have the option to have $2 be the difference between your fifth/sixth WR being WR38 vs. WR57. May not seem like much, but it's the difference between a high upside guy like Corey Davis or a low upside guy like Sanu.

 

[Hawkeye21]

These are the two extremes. I prefer to have the $5 leftover rather than be left watching multiple guys worth $12 going for $3. If your league is active, you can typically wait a few weeks and make some nice 2-for-1 trades. Sometimes you can do it right after the draft, but in my experience it usually takes a few weeks for the sting of trading a $20 player for two $3 players to go away.

Some leagues are so crazy/amateur that you can easily win it with just 75% of your budget because people go so top heavy that players within the same tier can have drastically different prices. So 15% might only be the difference between RB12 and RB10 and 10% could be the difference between QB4 and QB7. The difference is that later on you have the option to have $2 be the difference between your fifth/sixth WR being WR38 vs. WR57. May not seem like much, but it's the difference between a high upside guy like Corey Davis or a low upside guy like Sanu.

My auction league has been going for a long time.  I've had a couple years where I ended up with money leftover because I was cheap early in the draft.  When I looked back at the players I could've gotten for an extra dollar or two it really frustrated me.  I much rather prefer to spend on the players I know I want then fill in the bench spots with really cheap players.

 

[FF Ninja]

My auction league has been going for a long time.  I've had a couple years where I ended up with money leftover because I was cheap early in the draft.  When I looked back at the players I could've gotten for an extra dollar or two it really frustrated me.  I much rather prefer to spend on the players I know I want then fill in the bench spots with really cheap players.

Well, if your league has been going on for a while, drafting patterns should be pretty well set by now, so it should be easy to avoid that kind of thing. I typically take a 2-3 year average and put it up against a recent snake draft ADP to get an idea of expected cost for a player and formulate several distinct game plans.

But before you beat yourself up about players you could've gotten for an extra dollar, remember, that's not the way it works. The person that drafted that player, more often than not, wanted that player. You guys could've easily been +$1-ing each other quite a bit. So while I tend to beat myself up the same way, I try to remind myself of that fact. 

Also, you're not filling your bench with "really cheap players." You're filling your bench with $5-$10 players for the price of $2-$4. Of course this is situational. But the only leagues I've ever had significant money leftover (>4%) were leagues where people went crazy top heavy and left a ton of bargains at the end, so the trade off wasn't terrible and I was still very competitive.

 

[Hawkeye21]

Well, if your league has been going on for a while, drafting patterns should be pretty well set by now, so it should be easy to avoid that kind of thing. I typically take a 2-3 year average and put it up against a recent snake draft ADP to get an idea of expected cost for a player and formulate several distinct game plans.

But before you beat yourself up about players you could've gotten for an extra dollar, remember, that's not the way it works. The person that drafted that player, more often than not, wanted that player. You guys could've easily been +$1-ing each other quite a bit. So while I tend to beat myself up the same way, I try to remind myself of that fact. 

Also, you're not filling your bench with "really cheap players." You're filling your bench with $5-$10 players for the price of $2-$4. Of course this is situational. But the only leagues I've ever had significant money leftover (>4%) were leagues where people went crazy top heavy and left a ton of bargains at the end, so the trade off wasn't terrible and I was still very competitive.

I keep that in mind that if I bid an extra dollar that the other person may have as well.  Doesn't mean I couldn't have bid one more time though.  I remember being left with $5 at the end of the draft and it bothered me.

I do the same thing with past results and figuring out player values and what they will most likely go for.  It's pretty accurate every year.  My problem is that sometimes I stick too closely to it and get stingy with going over.  It's a mental block that doesn't want me to bid over they value I've given them.  I've gotten better at it.

 

[FF Ninja]

I keep that in mind that if I bid an extra dollar that the other person may have as well.  Doesn't mean I couldn't have bid one more time though.  I remember being left with $5 at the end of the draft and it bothered me.

I do the same thing with past results and figuring out player values and what they will most likely go for.  It's pretty accurate every year.  My problem is that sometimes I stick too closely to it and get stingy with going over.  It's a mental block that doesn't want me to bid over they value I've given them.  I've gotten better at it.

And doesn't mean they wouldn't have bid one more!

$5 out of $200 is nothing to worry about. It feasibly would have cost you a player or two later in the draft, because as you realized how tight your budget was, you might've been less inclined to +$1 a later player. I'd much rather settle for one slightly cheaper player than get outbid on 3-4 guys I wanted later. I know extra money can be frustrating, but watching guys you had earmarked for $10 pre-draft going for $3 is maddening. 

 

[Hawkeye21]

And doesn't mean they wouldn't have bid one more!

$5 out of $200 is nothing to worry about. It feasibly would have cost you a player or two later in the draft, because as you realize how tight your budget it, you might've been less inclined to +$1 a later player. I'd much rather settle for one slightly cheaper player than get outbid on 3-4 guys I wanted later. I know extra money can be frustrating, but watching guys you had earmarked for $10 pre-draft going for $3 is maddening. 

But then I don't feel as bad since I made them bid up that player. 

My league is different than most.  We get $100 to spend on 10 players.  The other 6 players are picked in a snake draft format.  This helps speed up the draft at the end.

 

[FF Ninja]

But then I don't feel as bad since I made them bid up that player. 

True, but my point was that you never know exactly how much $ it would take to have gotten a player. Easy to look at results and think you could've upgraded player X for player Y for only $1 or $2, but you never really know. So really, don't beat yourself up for $5. For a $200 budget, that's only 2.5%. 4%-5% is where regret really sets in for me.

 

[Hawkeye21]

True, but my point was that you never know exactly how much $ it would take to have gotten a player. Easy to look at results and think you could've upgraded player X for player Y for only $1 or $2, but you never really know. So really, don't beat yourself up for $5. For a $200 budget, that's only 2.5%. 4%-5% is where regret really sets in for me.

I know and I agree but how could I ever know if I didn't bid at all.  I'd rather bid and get that player or know I bid up the other person.

 

[-X-]

Never really got into these,  so I did a mock about a week ago to get a feel for it. Wanted to see how little I could spend to get a sense of how much I needed for my expensive targets.

Waited until most teams blew the majority of their stacks and then snarfed up nearly everyone I wanted without much resistance.  Wound up with $110, so I figure it’s enough for one overpriced guy plus 1-2 moderately-priced guys. I liked being the “big stack” in the room and laughed when the short stacks tried to raise with 5 or 10 bucks remaining.

IMO, there should be a larger starting amount, say $500 and whatever you have remaining after the draft covers FAABs for the rest of the season, but whatever.

 

[DexterDew]

had our draft last night, roughly same group for a decade now and they all pretty much go by Yahoo's estimated value (more so than actual prices).

So i nominated Tier 1 players to wash out $ and ended up with in a start 2 RB 3WR TE + flex

ARod ($6) and Cam ($5)

Mixon ($38) Jacobs ($23) Duke ($14) Guice ($7)

Hill ($40) Allen ($33) Moore ($15) Samuel ($11) T Williams OAK ($1)

Hopper ($1) Andrews ($2)

Jax ($2)

Tucker ($2)

Didn't expect to pair up CAR WRs, got Samuel early and surprised to get Moore (who was in the Westbrook, M Williams, Landry, Gordon price range)

Like, but don't love the results. The AB84 news certainly helps

 

[Slapdash]

12 team, PPR, standard roster lineup w/ flex.  4 pts passing TD.

Winston $3

Fournette $31,  Da. Freeman $29, Duke Johnson $9, La. Murray $9

Edelman $37, A. Cooper $35,  Lockett $24,  A. Robinson $9,  A.J.Green $6,  Larry Fitz $4.

D. Waller $1

K & Def.  $2

Short bench as only draft 14 players.

I have no outstanding stud-stud but pretty solid I think.

Here is to a good fantasy season to all of you.  Appreciate all the give & take & info from this forum.

Cheers!!!!!!!!!!

You have a lot of guys that are cheaper than they should produce because of recent injuries/under-performance.  Freeman, Robinson, Lockett, and AJ Green could all produce like like top players

 

[shadrap]

had our draft last night, roughly same group for a decade now and they all pretty much go by Yahoo's estimated value (more so than actual prices).

So i nominated Tier 1 players to wash out $ and ended up with in a start 2 RB 3WR TE + flex

ARod ($6) and Cam ($5)

Mixon ($38) Jacobs ($23) Duke ($14) Guice ($7)

Hill ($40) Allen ($33) Moore ($15) Samuel ($11) T Williams OAK ($1)

Hopper ($1) Andrews ($2)

Jax ($2)

Tucker ($2)

Didn't expect to pair up CAR WRs, got Samuel early and surprised to get Moore (who was in the Westbrook, M Williams, Landry, Gordon price range)

Like, but don't love the results. The AB84 news certainly helps

Wonderful team IMO!  Awesome bargain on your TE's.  You sure you need 2 QB's though?

 

[DexterDew]

Thanks! I was "planning" on finding a pair of cheaper options at QB but Cam came  up early and i was "price enforcing", and same thing happened with ARod. Still happy with them for $11 (FTR Mahomes $26, Mayfield $9, Watson $7, Wentz $7, Goff $5... all were after my two QBs)