B. Jackson vs. Morencey - Jackson not doing that much with his chance (1 Viewer)

[mr. furley]

1991Steve Avery

Avery was a stud in 1991. He went 18-8 with a 3.31 ERA, and was one of the main cogs behind the emergence of the Braves.

unfortunately, he wasn't much of a fullback. but he was Deion before Deion, man. slugging it out on the gridiron and then helicoptering to Atlanta to start at night. guy was dedicated.

 

[ATC1]

My main thoughts is that Morency's injury is really less than what is reported. Has there been an MRI reported on his knee? The injury updates for Driver have been good, but Morency there has been next to nothing. I just feel they are sitting Morency out to see how Jackson handle's the load during TC and Preseason, since that was the knock on him.

I have no doubt that he maybe hurt, but from the reports i have seen, it seems to me that he would be playing if it was the regular season. Can anybody else correct me if there have been concrete injury news on Morency such as an MRI report? A player out this long would surely have one if he's been out this long.

I also think he should not be behind on nowing the offense.

 

[sho nuff]

but as of this moment I don't think he has done enough to make himself a clear cut starter.

I agree. He hasn't shown much at all. He has the job because the other guy is hurt. Morency is WAY behind the curve and that's why he'll need an injury to Jackson or Jackson flopping to have any shot at the starting job.

I disagree that Morency is behind any curve.The guy was with the team last year (and performed well) and all off-season. I think it was RBBC before his injury, and will likely remain that after the injury pretty much whoever has the hot hand will be getting the bulk of the carries.

This quote was from offensive coordinator Joe Philbin early last week: "(Jackson) is definitely way ahead because the other guy (Morency) unfortunately hasn't competed at all." So in the eyes of the coaching staff Morency is way behind in this battle.

Jackson seems slow to hit the holes and commit to his cut.

I agree. He hasn't shown the ability to make much on his own and he hasn't shown a consistent assertiveness in terms of running and cutting quickly. He's very tentative. But again, while there's no question in my mind Jackson is the clear starter to open the season I believe this will be a RBBC as the season unfolds for the reasons I've mentioned earlier.

Ahead in the "battle" by default of not being injurred is a bit different than behind the curve. That statement to me meant Morency is behind the curve with the offense and so on. I agree he is behind in the battle for the spot because of the injury...but don't think he is all that far behind once he gets back in there.

 

[yellowdog]

Morency update

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Morency update

From Rotoworld:

Vernand Morency (knee), who will not play in Green Bay's preseason finale, was running along the sidelines at practice Monday.

The team still fully expects Morency to be a go for the regular season.

Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette

But, for what it's worth, the part about the team expecting Morency back for the Regular Season seems to be speculation on Rotoworld's part. Green Bay Press-Gazette does not mention anything about a timeframe for his return:

*** Injured running back Vernand Morency was running along the sidelines in sweats while the team practiced today. Morency injured his knee in the first practice of training camp almost a month ago.

 

[tommyboy]

jaxkson wil domiate!

 

[Jagerbomber]

jaxkson wil domiate!

I like your confidence but he really has struggled. Morency went undrafted in 2 of my three leagues.

 

[Riflemen]

Morency is back practicing today. With Jackson's injury albeit minor can he take back the starters job in a little over a week?

 

[ATC1]

Morency is back practicing today. With Jackson's injury albeit minor can he take back the starters job in a little over a week?

Yes, but it's not because of the concussion, but his performance thus far. I don't think Morency's injury was anything that would have kept him out during the season. Moreso to test Jackson.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Morency is back practicing today. With Jackson's injury albeit minor can he take back the starters job in a little over a week?

From Rotoworld:http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...541&id=4234

The Green Bay Press-Gazette reports Brandon Jackson (concussion) may not be ready for Week 1 and could be limited even if he does play.

Mike McCarthy called the injury "mild" Monday. But with Vernand Morency (knee) also banged up, Green Bay could potentially head to Week 1 with only Noah Herron and DeShawn Wynn or Corey White capable of playing tailback. The Packers still say they're "not overly concerned" about Jackson's status.

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I'm on board with ATC1. This has been my thought all along. They're keeping Morency out as a precaution, since he's a 'known' commodity. He played in the system in Green Bay last year, so they didn't want to expose him to needless preseason bashing. And, they wanted to look a the young guys.

I still believe Morency is the main ball carrier this year in Green Bay. And Jackson and Herron will still play some.

 

[Traders2001]

Morency is back practicing today. With Jackson's injury albeit minor can he take back the starters job in a little over a week?

From Rotoworld:http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...541&id=4234

The Green Bay Press-Gazette reports Brandon Jackson (concussion) may not be ready for Week 1 and could be limited even if he does play.

Mike McCarthy called the injury "mild" Monday. But with Vernand Morency (knee) also banged up, Green Bay could potentially head to Week 1 with only Noah Herron and DeShawn Wynn or Corey White capable of playing tailback. The Packers still say they're "not overly concerned" about Jackson's status.

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I'm on board with ATC1. This has been my thought all along. They're keeping Morency out as a precaution, since he's a 'known' commodity. He played in the system in Green Bay last year, so they didn't want to expose him to needless preseason bashing. And, they wanted to look a the young guys.

I still believe Morency is the main ball carrier this year in Green Bay. And Jackson and Herron will still play some.

Morency has never been the main ball carrier in the NFL, what makes you say he will be the guy in GB . He has been a career back up so far and they would keep him on the sideline during training camp cause they know what he can do , i mean c'mon . ( that keeping him on the sideline to is is from another poster i just wanted to throw it in there )

 

[Traders2001]

Morency is back practicing today. With Jackson's injury albeit minor can he take back the starters job in a little over a week?

Yes, but it's not because of the concussion, but his performance thus far. I don't think Morency's injury was anything that would have kept him out during the season. Moreso to test Jackson.

That s a joke so funny , like Morency was a established starter.

 

[Disco Stu]

My main thoughts is that Morency's injury is really less than what is reported. Has there been an MRI reported on his knee? The injury updates for Driver have been good, but Morency there has been next to nothing. I just feel they are sitting Morency out to see how Jackson handle's the load during TC and Preseason, since that was the knock on him. I have no doubt that he maybe hurt, but from the reports i have seen, it seems to me that he would be playing if it was the regular season. Can anybody else correct me if there have been concrete injury news on Morency such as an MRI report? A player out this long would surely have one if he's been out this long.I also think he should not be behind on nowing the offense.

This is really horrible logic.

 

[smackdaddies]

anyone drafting a GB RB is either:

a: in a really, really big league (16 plus teams) and/or really big rosters (over 20 (26 with idp))

b: Not paying attention

Green Bay RB this preason have been injury prone and not productive. Morency/Wynn/Jackson have all been hurt (now Jackson may be out through the first regular season game), none of them have been true starters in the NFL, and none of them have been impressive in the least in pre-season. THIS IS PRE SEASON folks - someone should of been able to put up at least one good game. Yet, none have. This thursday will bring you Noah Herron (and possibly WYnn). Good luck with either of them.

There are far better FF options out there. I would rather have Chatman if I was taking a flyer, and I havent drafted him either.

 

[Traders2001]

My main thoughts is that Morency's injury is really less than what is reported. Has there been an MRI reported on his knee? The injury updates for Driver have been good, but Morency there has been next to nothing. I just feel they are sitting Morency out to see how Jackson handle's the load during TC and Preseason, since that was the knock on him. I have no doubt that he maybe hurt, but from the reports i have seen, it seems to me that he would be playing if it was the regular season. Can anybody else correct me if there have been concrete injury news on Morency such as an MRI report? A player out this long would surely have one if he's been out this long.I also think he should not be behind on nowing the offense.

This is really horrible logic.

Agreed , ridiculous . Like Morency was a start that they protect like Tomlinson .

 

[redman]

My main thoughts is that Morency's injury is really less than what is reported. Has there been an MRI reported on his knee? The injury updates for Driver have been good, but Morency there has been next to nothing. I just feel they are sitting Morency out to see how Jackson handle's the load during TC and Preseason, since that was the knock on him.

I have no doubt that he maybe hurt, but from the reports i have seen, it seems to me that he would be playing if it was the regular season. Can anybody else correct me if there have been concrete injury news on Morency such as an MRI report? A player out this long would surely have one if he's been out this long.

I also think he should not be behind on nowing the offense.

This is really horrible logic.

Agreed , ridiculous . Like Morency was a start that they protect like Tomlinson .

Why exaggerate? Morency is more of a known quantity with more experience in that offense and also in the pro game and such important things as blitz pickup, etc. Are you seriously arguing that Jackson doesn't need the reps at this point more than Morency does?

 

[mdog1967]

Morency is back practicing today. With Jackson's injury albeit minor can he take back the starters job in a little over a week?

From Rotoworld:http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...541&id=4234

The Green Bay Press-Gazette reports Brandon Jackson (concussion) may not be ready for Week 1 and could be limited even if he does play.

Mike McCarthy called the injury "mild" Monday. But with Vernand Morency (knee) also banged up, Green Bay could potentially head to Week 1 with only Noah Herron and DeShawn Wynn or Corey White capable of playing tailback. The Packers still say they're "not overly concerned" about Jackson's status.

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I'm on board with ATC1. This has been my thought all along. They're keeping Morency out as a precaution, since he's a 'known' commodity. He played in the system in Green Bay last year, so they didn't want to expose him to needless preseason bashing. And, they wanted to look a the young guys.

I still believe Morency is the main ball carrier this year in Green Bay. And Jackson and Herron will still play some.

Morency has never been the main ball carrier in the NFL, what makes you say he will be the guy in GB . He has been a career back up so far and they would keep him on the sideline during training camp cause they know what he can do , i mean c'mon . ( that keeping him on the sideline to is is from another poster i just wanted to throw it in there )

Morncy was underated coming out of college, The trade for GADO was because of Sherman. Jackson on the other hand has looked very, very luke warm all preseason. There is a determination when morency runs that is lacking from Jackson, IMHO. Morency may very well be less talented, but talent alone will not win you the starting Job. Morency has not established himself as an NFL starter. If vanity on the part of the Packers coaches win out then Jackson will start no matter what and will get the lions share of the carry's. If it goes by pure ability to play RB in the NFL than Morency will be a decent Low end number two back. I think either way the Packers will have to find a RB in the future. I hope Morency can prove to be the answer, or worst case Jackson steps up and is servicable. I really think every one puts too much stock in the new unknown player and tend to discount simi proven talent. I garuntee that nearly everyone pimping Jackson has had to draft him in their dynasty leagues, Make that every one. No one could seriously call a few good games at Nebraska a steller effort, they played subpar defenses, and its Collage Ball for christ sakes.

 

[Traders2001]

My main thoughts is that Morency's injury is really less than what is reported. Has there been an MRI reported on his knee? The injury updates for Driver have been good, but Morency there has been next to nothing. I just feel they are sitting Morency out to see how Jackson handle's the load during TC and Preseason, since that was the knock on him.

I have no doubt that he maybe hurt, but from the reports i have seen, it seems to me that he would be playing if it was the regular season. Can anybody else correct me if there have been concrete injury news on Morency such as an MRI report? A player out this long would surely have one if he's been out this long.

I also think he should not be behind on nowing the offense.

This is really horrible logic.

Agreed , ridiculous . Like Morency was a start that they protect like Tomlinson .

Why exaggerate? Morency is more of a known quantity with more experience in that offense and also in the pro game and such important things as blitz pickup, etc. Are you seriously arguing that Jackson doesn't need the reps at this point more than Morency does?

What i am saying is that it s totally ridiculous to say that Morency injury was nothing and they just keep him on the bench to make sure he does nt get injured in training camp ( Like a Tomlinson ) that s what some people here seems to say . that they are protecting him like he was a superstar.I mean cmon Morancy is nt even close to being a starter in this league , he could not even beat out Wali Lundy in Houston last season .

If Morency was this good why would they waste a 2nd round pick on Jackson , they should have waited in the 4th or 5th and grab a back up for Morency .

Also about being back on the field praticing ( Like some say ) where did they see that , he was running on the sideline thats not back to practice .

 

[Traders2001]

Morency is back practicing today. With Jackson's injury albeit minor can he take back the starters job in a little over a week?

From Rotoworld:http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...541&id=4234

The Green Bay Press-Gazette reports Brandon Jackson (concussion) may not be ready for Week 1 and could be limited even if he does play.

Mike McCarthy called the injury "mild" Monday. But with Vernand Morency (knee) also banged up, Green Bay could potentially head to Week 1 with only Noah Herron and DeShawn Wynn or Corey White capable of playing tailback. The Packers still say they're "not overly concerned" about Jackson's status.

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I'm on board with ATC1. This has been my thought all along. They're keeping Morency out as a precaution, since he's a 'known' commodity. He played in the system in Green Bay last year, so they didn't want to expose him to needless preseason bashing. And, they wanted to look a the young guys.

I still believe Morency is the main ball carrier this year in Green Bay. And Jackson and Herron will still play some.

Morency has never been the main ball carrier in the NFL, what makes you say he will be the guy in GB . He has been a career back up so far and they would keep him on the sideline during training camp cause they know what he can do , i mean c'mon . ( that keeping him on the sideline to is is from another poster i just wanted to throw it in there )

Morncy was underated coming out of college, The trade for GADO was because of Sherman. Jackson on the other hand has looked very, very luke warm all preseason. There is a determination when morency runs that is lacking from Jackson, IMHO. Morency may very well be less talented, but talent alone will not win you the starting Job. Morency has not established himself as an NFL starter. If vanity on the part of the Packers coaches win out then Jackson will start no matter what and will get the lions share of the carry's. If it goes by pure ability to play RB in the NFL than Morency will be a decent Low end number two back. I think either way the Packers will have to find a RB in the future. I hope Morency can prove to be the answer, or worst case Jackson steps up and is servicable. I really think every one puts too much stock in the new unknown player and tend to discount simi proven talent. I garuntee that nearly everyone pimping Jackson has had to draft him in their dynasty leagues, Make that every one. No one could seriously call a few good games at Nebraska a steller effort, they played subpar defenses, and its Collage Ball for christ sakes.

I dont own him i picked Lynch ( I just find that funny that guy s who have no clue about judging NFL talent , i guess like you say that they need to look for a RB of the future after 3 pre season game where they admitted themselves they run a vanilla running game meaning that the LB can easily fill the holes and get to the RB ) but cmon why would he picked in the second if they are still looking for their RB of the future.Maybe you should apply to become a NFL scout.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Morency is back practicing today. With Jackson's injury albeit minor can he take back the starters job in a little over a week?

From Rotoworld:http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...541&id=4234

The Green Bay Press-Gazette reports Brandon Jackson (concussion) may not be ready for Week 1 and could be limited even if he does play.

Mike McCarthy called the injury "mild" Monday. But with Vernand Morency (knee) also banged up, Green Bay could potentially head to Week 1 with only Noah Herron and DeShawn Wynn or Corey White capable of playing tailback. The Packers still say they're "not overly concerned" about Jackson's status.

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I'm on board with ATC1. This has been my thought all along. They're keeping Morency out as a precaution, since he's a 'known' commodity. He played in the system in Green Bay last year, so they didn't want to expose him to needless preseason bashing. And, they wanted to look a the young guys.

I still believe Morency is the main ball carrier this year in Green Bay. And Jackson and Herron will still play some.

Morency has never been the main ball carrier in the NFL, what makes you say he will be the guy in GB . He has been a career back up so far and they would keep him on the sideline during training camp cause they know what he can do , i mean c'mon . ( that keeping him on the sideline to is is from another poster i just wanted to throw it in there )

Morncy was underated coming out of college, The trade for GADO was because of Sherman. Jackson on the other hand has looked very, very luke warm all preseason. There is a determination when morency runs that is lacking from Jackson, IMHO. Morency may very well be less talented, but talent alone will not win you the starting Job. Morency has not established himself as an NFL starter. If vanity on the part of the Packers coaches win out then Jackson will start no matter what and will get the lions share of the carry's. If it goes by pure ability to play RB in the NFL than Morency will be a decent Low end number two back. I think either way the Packers will have to find a RB in the future. I hope Morency can prove to be the answer, or worst case Jackson steps up and is servicable. I really think every one puts too much stock in the new unknown player and tend to discount simi proven talent. I garuntee that nearly everyone pimping Jackson has had to draft him in their dynasty leagues, Make that every one. No one could seriously call a few good games at Nebraska a steller effort, they played subpar defenses, and its Collage Ball for christ sakes.

I dont own him i picked Lynch ( I just find that funny that guy s who have no clue about judging NFL talent , i guess like you say that they need to look for a RB of the future after 3 pre season game where they admitted themselves they run a vanilla running game meaning that the LB can easily fill the holes and get to the RB ) but cmon why would he picked in the second if they are still looking for their RB of the future.Maybe you should apply to become a NFL scout.

Maybe you just like being a jerk. Can't really tell if that's the case, but you're spewing some venom at people for no apparent reason.I believe Morency did indeed get hurt. I also believe Morency has been their preferred starter all off season and preseason. The problem is he got hurt.

I'm sure Green Bay does indeed believe Jackson can be the back of the future, or they wouldn't have drafted him in round 2. But let's be very honest here. Every NFL scout knew, and knows now, that Jackson was raw coming into the league. Which tells me that Green Bay likely looked at him as a guy with potential who needed seasoning. Which is why I believe Morency was Green Bay's projected starter all along. Give Jackson a year to play in spots and learn the NFL game.

And nothing Jackson has shown to date leads me to believe he's better equipped to be the starting back.