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Bad Cop Shawn Glans: "You Wanna F***in Resist?" (1 Viewer)
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Tom Skerritt
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The two guys were seen coming from a wooded area, wearing black hooded sweatshirts, and carrying a rifle.
Henry Ford
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Yes. None of those things change the Constitution or the cop's right to hit them.
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Tom Skerritt
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Glans is even quoted as saying he would do it the same way again, but only if he wasn't being recorded.
Ditkaless Wonders
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I did not understand the article to say they were carrying a rifle. I understood it to say that there was a rifle lying in plain sight in the back seat of their locked vehicle. Perhaps I got that wrong.
Ditkaless Wonders
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Hot Diggity Dog
Footballguy
Cop be trippin!
AAABatteries
Footballguy
It's ok, his wife said he's had a very bad year.
Tom Skerritt
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I am not defending the d-bag's actions. I am merely providing the details as to why he wanted to search the guy's car.
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SHIZNITTTT
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loses job
Henry Ford
Footballguy
No, I think you're right.
Henry Ford
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Tom Skerritt
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Tom Skerritt
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Sabertooth
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Henry Ford
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Which is why I'm saying his motivation for wanting to search the car is irrelevant to this story.
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Jules Winnfield
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Right. That doesn't say they were carrying a rifle.
So it is not the color of the skin, it is the friggin hoodies that cops are prejudice against.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I have some sympathy for the Cop. I will not condom him. It cannot be easy going through life with the name Glans. Imagine the ribbing this guy took.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Poster boy for all the weightlifting, gorilla losers that like to bully people and looking for a way to make a little change and a pension doing so.
Bucky86
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Binky The Doormat
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
I think the ribbing is for her.
The Big Guy
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it was pretty brutal watching that video. The guy tells the cop to go ahead and get a search warrant and the cop slaps him upside the head and takes the keys from him to search the car? Not good.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Well, presuming the cop wrote a report on the matter, and did not include him slapping the kid for refusing consent the cop will be sustained on the following, presuming his Department uses more or less the Model Directives:
Untruthfulness - In most Department's this is a firing violation. Prosecutors have a Brady obligation to turn over to Defense counsel instances of untruthfulness. That makes the Officer impeachable in every single thing he does. Without his integrity his observations are not testimonial evidence, they are ####.
Use of Excessive Force - Absent major injuries this tends to not be a firing offense the first time, or two, but eventually it is. This holds the Department open to civil suit, and with more and more Cities and Departments being self insured this is bad. Also, with the publicity of this any suspect who is charged with resisting arrest can be expected to claim he knew the Officers propensity and had a right to flee, or to struggle to get away from this brutal and unstable man. I know Defense Counsel who will subpoena the wife to ask whether he has again been unstable prior to any arrest he made of my client. Now the Court will not let that in, but the act of subpoenaing his wife is likely to unhinge the guy, making him an apparently needlessly hostile witness.
Constitutional violation - He is demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of search and seizure law. This alone would get many Cops three days off without pay and temporary removal from all secondary employment until such time as the Officer has successfully completed some remedial training under the guidance of a Field Training Officer, generally around 30 days.
Holding the Department in disrepute - A catchall.
Untruthfulness - In most Department's this is a firing violation. Prosecutors have a Brady obligation to turn over to Defense counsel instances of untruthfulness. That makes the Officer impeachable in every single thing he does. Without his integrity his observations are not testimonial evidence, they are ####.
Use of Excessive Force - Absent major injuries this tends to not be a firing offense the first time, or two, but eventually it is. This holds the Department open to civil suit, and with more and more Cities and Departments being self insured this is bad. Also, with the publicity of this any suspect who is charged with resisting arrest can be expected to claim he knew the Officers propensity and had a right to flee, or to struggle to get away from this brutal and unstable man. I know Defense Counsel who will subpoena the wife to ask whether he has again been unstable prior to any arrest he made of my client. Now the Court will not let that in, but the act of subpoenaing his wife is likely to unhinge the guy, making him an apparently needlessly hostile witness.
Constitutional violation - He is demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of search and seizure law. This alone would get many Cops three days off without pay and temporary removal from all secondary employment until such time as the Officer has successfully completed some remedial training under the guidance of a Field Training Officer, generally around 30 days.
Holding the Department in disrepute - A catchall.
The Big Guy
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I do know that most people do not like the hand behind the head move. They tell me that is too much glans for them.Christo said:
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Damn.
GoFishTN
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Thanks for brining some levity.
Al O'Pecia
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I'd wear one. Rumor is the cop's dirty.Ditkaless Wonders said:
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Doug B
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In the smartphone era, how do policemen not have this internalized? Are their methods just a holdover from the '90s, and not enough policemen are hip to the risks these days they take when performing illegal searches?Ditkaless Wonders said:
I was surprised Glans was not aware he was being recorded. Only saw stills, but it looked like the buddy doing the filiming was pretty close.
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Al O'Pecia
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KiddLattimer
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Bucky86
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KiddLattimer
Footballguy
Yea he was arrested and charged with "official misconduct and harassment" according to the Times Union. I live about 10 mins south of there so I'm hearing about it constantly.Is he still being charged?
I could understand a cop getting upset and snapping if they worked in a high crime, stress filled area, but Halfmoon is a pretty low key suburban town... not exactly Compton.
Bucky86
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Yet no assault charges. At least he doesn't keep his job. Wonder if he'll still be eligible for a pension?Yea he was arrested and charged with "official misconduct and harassment" according to the Times Union. I live about 10 mins south of there so I'm hearing about it constantly.
I could understand a cop getting upset and snapping if they worked in a high crime, stress filled area, but Halfmoon is a pretty low key suburban town... not exactly Compton.
