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[shnikies]

A league source tells the Chicago Sun-Times' Mike Mulligan "there is still talk" that Greg Olsen is available for trade.

Mulligan is a columnist rather than a beat writer, so take this report with the obligatory grain of salt. Unique among Chicago media, Mulligan concedes that "there has been nothing but tireless propaganda" about Olsen's fit in Mike Martz's offense. With LT Chris Williams giving his best swinging gate impression in preseason action, however, it's become obvious that blocking specialist Brandon Manumaleuna's presence is even more crucial than originally expected. Olsen's offensive role remains up in the air.

Source: Chicago Sun Times

This makes sense now that they've realized Chris Williams is completely worthless. I don't see Manumaleuna leaving the field much so Olsen may be out of luck on this team. His value will come from another team getting him.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

I wonder if the Bears have any interest in Marshawn Lynch?

 

[dagwood]

I wonder if the Bears have any interest in Marshawn Lynch?

Yet another swing and miss on a first round pick by the Bears. Who the heck is the GM over there and why is he not on the hot seat?

 

[shnikies]

I wonder if the Bears have any interest in Marshawn Lynch?

Yet another swing and miss on a first round pick by the Bears. Who the heck is the GM over there and why is he not on the hot seat?

With all the stupid picks Angelo has made this was not one of them. Nobody knew this guy would turn out to be such a woman's private part.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I don't see how it's bad news if the Bears trade him.

@dagwood, I don't know how you call Olsen a swing and a miss. He certainly can't be considered a bust with his production pre-Martz. Unless you were talking about Chris Williams, in which case yeah he's a huge swing and miss. Actually all three of the Vanderbilt guys the Bears acquired have been pretty worthless for Chicago.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I wonder if the Bears have any interest in Marshawn Lynch?

Yet another swing and miss on a first round pick by the Bears. Who the heck is the GM over there and why is he not on the hot seat?

With all the stupid picks Angelo has made this was not one of them. Nobody knew this guy would turn out to be such a woman's private part.

It was a terrible pick. In the season before they drafted him, they got more production out of the TE postion than they had in any of the previous 10 years.TE simply wasn't a need at the time and a glaring example of how drafting the "best available" person can bite you in the ###.

 

[shnikies]

I wonder if the Bears have any interest in Marshawn Lynch?

Yet another swing and miss on a first round pick by the Bears. Who the heck is the GM over there and why is he not on the hot seat?

With all the stupid picks Angelo has made this was not one of them. Nobody knew this guy would turn out to be such a woman's private part.

It was a terrible pick. In the season before they drafted him, they got more production out of the TE postion than they had in any of the previous 10 years.TE simply wasn't a need at the time and a glaring example of how drafting the "best available" person can bite you in the ###.

Even though Desmond Clark was solid, he didn't have the skill set to be a game changer. The Bears finished 13-3 and were in the Super Bowl the year before, I don't think they figured they had too many "needs" at the time and when Olsen fell to them they thought they had a chance to take a Gates/Gonzalez type tight end. The pick obviously hasn't worked out perfectly but it's far from Angelo's biggest blemish.

 

[mlball77]

Bears need to hold onto Olsen. Once Martz an Lovie are fired afther this season, Olsen will once again be a valuable asset (with the new regime).

 

[massraider]

Olsen wasn't a bad pick, he was a bad fit. He's gonna go catch 80 balls for someone else.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I wonder if the Bears have any interest in Marshawn Lynch?

Yet another swing and miss on a first round pick by the Bears. Who the heck is the GM over there and why is he not on the hot seat?

With all the stupid picks Angelo has made this was not one of them. Nobody knew this guy would turn out to be such a woman's private part.

It was a terrible pick. In the season before they drafted him, they got more production out of the TE postion than they had in any of the previous 10 years.TE simply wasn't a need at the time and a glaring example of how drafting the "best available" person can bite you in the ###.

Even though Desmond Clark was solid, he didn't have the skill set to be a game changer. The Bears finished 13-3 and were in the Super Bowl the year before, I don't think they figured they had too many "needs" at the time and when Olsen fell to them they thought they had a chance to take a Gates/Gonzalez type tight end. The pick obviously hasn't worked out perfectly but it's far from Angelo's biggest blemish.

The entire O Line was on the wrong side of 30. They had plenty of needs outside of TE

 

[shnikies]

The entire O Line was on the wrong side of 30. They had plenty of needs outside of TE

If you could use hindsight during a draft you'd have a point.

 

[massraider]

The entire O Line was on the wrong side of 30. They had plenty of needs outside of TE

The next O-linemen taken after Olsen:Aaron SearsJustin BlalockTony UgohRyan Kalil---29 or so picks later.I don't see any answers at OT in that group.

 

[Limp Ditka]

If you could use hindsight during a draft you'd have a point.

Hindisght? How in the hell is thier age hindisght? Have their birtdays changed between then and now?They were all, outside of Garza (I looked into this, and Garza was 28), on the wrong side of 30 for opening day 2007.

 

[shnikies]

If you could use hindsight during a draft you'd have a point.

Hindisght? How in the hell is thier age hindisght? Have their birtdays changed between then and now?They were all, outside of Garza (I looked into this, and Garza was 28), on the wrong side of 30 for opening day 2007.

It's an offensive line not a running back. There are plenty of offensive linemen over the age of 30 that are effective in the NFL. They had no way of knowing that the whole line's skills would depreciate at the same time.

 

[Limp Ditka]

The entire O Line was on the wrong side of 30. They had plenty of needs outside of TE

The next O-linemen taken after Olsen:Aaron SearsJustin BlalockTony UgohRyan Kalil---29 or so picks later.I don't see any answers at OT in that group.

No one said anything about OT and only OT being a need. Ugoh would have been a fine pick and I beleive Blalock has started every game for the Falcons since being drafted.

 

[Limp Ditka]

If you could use hindsight during a draft you'd have a point.

Hindisght? How in the hell is thier age hindisght? Have their birtdays changed between then and now?They were all, outside of Garza (I looked into this, and Garza was 28), on the wrong side of 30 for opening day 2007.

It's an offensive line not a running back. There are plenty of offensive linemen over the age of 30 that are effective in the NFL. They had no way of knowing that the whole line's skills would depreciate at the same time.

When 4/5th of your starting O Line is 30+, and jsut got done playing a 19 game season, there's going to be some depreciation that takes place somewhere.Find me an example of this not happening. I have my "Exhibit A" in the 2007 Chiacgo Bears.

 

[RBM]

now that they've realized Chris Williams is completely worthless.

Take it easy with this talk. Williams was pretty good once he moved over to LT last year. Two bad preseason games do not make the guy completely worthless.

 

[Multiple Scores]

0-16 is a possibility with this team.

 

[Phil McRevis]

now that they've realized Chris Williams is completely worthless.

Take it easy with this talk. Williams was pretty good once he moved over to LT last year. Two bad preseason games do not make the guy completely worthless.

Haven't there been reports of Bears management worrying about his emotional state after being abused by Peppers so much in camp?

 

[rct]

0-16 is a possibility with this team.

I had forgotten why I once had you on ignore, but now I remember, it was for comments like these.

 

[maxwelledison]

I wonder if the Bears have any interest in Marshawn Lynch?

Yet another swing and miss on a first round pick by the Bears. Who the heck is the GM over there and why is he not on the hot seat?

With all the stupid picks Angelo has made this was not one of them. Nobody knew this guy would turn out to be such a woman's private part.

It was a terrible pick. In the season before they drafted him, they got more production out of the TE postion than they had in any of the previous 10 years.TE simply wasn't a need at the time and a glaring example of how drafting the "best available" person can bite you in the ###.

Even though Desmond Clark was solid, he didn't have the skill set to be a game changer. The Bears finished 13-3 and were in the Super Bowl the year before, I don't think they figured they had too many "needs" at the time and when Olsen fell to them they thought they had a chance to take a Gates/Gonzalez type tight end. The pick obviously hasn't worked out perfectly but it's far from Angelo's biggest blemish.

It was absolutely a terrible pick. Several teams took Williams off their draft boards due to his neck injury. That doesn't even take into account his reputation that he was a little soft for a top LT prospect. Typical.

 

[bakes]

I think Martz must have gotten burned by a tight ebnd or two in his high school playing days as I've never seen him utilize one to any real extent as a receiver. Olson's not *bad* - just a lousy fit in this offense.

an aside - will martz still be wearing that goofy silver headset that makes him look like an overweight Ludwig van Beethoven?

 

[PatytonsGhost]

A league source tells the Chicago Sun-Times' Mike Mulligan "there is still talk" that Greg Olsen is available for trade.

Mulligan is a columnist rather than a beat writer, so take this report with the obligatory grain of salt. Unique among Chicago media, Mulligan concedes that "there has been nothing but tireless propaganda" about Olsen's fit in Mike Martz's offense. With LT Chris Williams giving his best swinging gate impression in preseason action, however, it's become obvious that blocking specialist Brandon Manumaleuna's presence is even more crucial than originally expected. Olsen's offensive role remains up in the air.

Source: Chicago Sun Times

This makes sense now that they've realized Chris Williams is completely worthless. I don't see Manumaleuna leaving the field much so Olsen may be out of luck on this team. His value will come from another team getting him.

Unless they get a solid Offensive Line guy, I don't see this happening. Olsen has been getting a lot of targets at practice and preseason. He is Cutler's right hand man, Cutler has a lot of say in this happening as well.

And its Mike Mulligan for what its worth

Here is the link BTW

 

[massraider]

A league source tells the Chicago Sun-Times' Mike Mulligan "there is still talk" that Greg Olsen is available for trade.

Mulligan is a columnist rather than a beat writer, so take this report with the obligatory grain of salt. Unique among Chicago media, Mulligan concedes that "there has been nothing but tireless propaganda" about Olsen's fit in Mike Martz's offense. With LT Chris Williams giving his best swinging gate impression in preseason action, however, it's become obvious that blocking specialist Brandon Manumaleuna's presence is even more crucial than originally expected. Olsen's offensive role remains up in the air.

Source: Chicago Sun Times

This makes sense now that they've realized Chris Williams is completely worthless. I don't see Manumaleuna leaving the field much so Olsen may be out of luck on this team. His value will come from another team getting him.

Unless they get a solid Offensive Line guy, I don't see this happening. Olsen has been getting a lot of targets at practice and preseason. He is Cutler's right hand man, Cutler has a lot of say in this happening as well.

And its Mike Mulligan for what its worth

Here is the link BTW

One of the things that I always believe is that Martz has little use for TE in his offense. We were told in SF he never had a Vernon Davis, and would use him. He didn't. I am an Olsen fan, I just think he's like a 4-3 tackle stuck in a 3-4, like Haynesworth or Dorsey. He just needs to go elsewhere. I'd give a 2nd rounder for him ina second.

 

[FavreCo]

Bears need to hold onto Olsen. Once Martz an Lovie are fired afther this season, Olsen will once again be a valuable asset (with the new regime).

And they will be fired after this season's last place finish. Martz just doesn't get it.

 

[shnikies]

If you could use hindsight during a draft you'd have a point.

Hindisght? How in the hell is thier age hindisght? Have their birtdays changed between then and now?They were all, outside of Garza (I looked into this, and Garza was 28), on the wrong side of 30 for opening day 2007.

It's an offensive line not a running back. There are plenty of offensive linemen over the age of 30 that are effective in the NFL. They had no way of knowing that the whole line's skills would depreciate at the same time.

When 4/5th of your starting O Line is 30+, and jsut got done playing a 19 game season, there's going to be some depreciation that takes place somewhere.Find me an example of this not happening. I have my "Exhibit A" in the 2007 Chiacgo Bears.

So you're using an example in hindsight to prove you're not using hindsight?

 

[Limp Ditka]

If you could use hindsight during a draft you'd have a point.

Hindisght? How in the hell is thier age hindisght? Have their birtdays changed between then and now?They were all, outside of Garza (I looked into this, and Garza was 28), on the wrong side of 30 for opening day 2007.

It's an offensive line not a running back. There are plenty of offensive linemen over the age of 30 that are effective in the NFL. They had no way of knowing that the whole line's skills would depreciate at the same time.

When 4/5th of your starting O Line is 30+, and jsut got done playing a 19 game season, there's going to be some depreciation that takes place somewhere.Find me an example of this not happening. I have my "Exhibit A" in the 2007 Chiacgo Bears.

So you're using an example in hindsight to prove you're not using hindsight?

It's not hindsight, it's common sense.