Baltimore at Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

[JoeSteeler]

Anyone have clarity on this? Seems weird to lose a TO to injury when the clock wasn't running. Logically that doesn't make any sense.

After the two-minute warning of a half, the following shall apply: 
a) If a team has not used its three charged team timeouts, the team of the injured player will be charged a team timeout, 
unless: 
1) the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent; 
2) the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a successful field goal, or an attempted try

 

[belljr]

INJURY TIMEOUTS AFTER TWO-MINUTE WARNING OF EITHER HALF 
Article 4After the two-minute warning of a half, the following shall apply: 
(a) If a team has not used its three charged team timeouts, the team of the injured player will be charged
a team timeout, unless: 
 (i) the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent; 
 (ii) the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a successful field goal, 
or an attempted Try; or 
 (iii) the opponent calls a timeout

 

[infantsam]

I am not sure if we can recover to beat the Pats but that was about the best football game ever.   Imagine Haden and Shazier - dammit.

It is still fun even though the NFL cannot figure it out.

K

 

[zftcg]

Can they throw the flag for illegal touching on the review?

It's not illegal touching if you go out of bounds and never come back in. That's just called "out of bounds"

 

[Wise Old Owl]

LOL at Flaccos terrible football IQ to take the sack and then not even know the clock was wound 

he wasnt sacked though right? he fumbled out of bounds?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That was one hell of a game.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Seriously Pittsburgh defense might be the worst I have ever seen on a team with a 11-2 record

I have said pretty much this exact same thing every week for the past month+ ("This is the worst defense I've ever seen on a 7-2/8/2/etc team.")

 

[JoeSteeler]

he wasnt sacked though right? he fumbled out of bounds?

Sack and a fumble

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Was I seeing that Maclin play correctly? Got hit, dropped it, was mad at himself for dropping it & laid there...training staff came  out costing them a critical TO?

he couldn’t have been KTFO - he ran off the field. Looked like he was shaking off the trainer. 

If that’s what happened, that’s the most selfish lack of game awareness play I’ve ever seen. 

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Sack and a fumble

is that how it was ruled because it that is not what happened. The ball is clearly out before he's down

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It's not illegal touching if you go out of bounds and never come back in. That's just called "out of bounds"

Yeah I posted that before they showed the other angle where it was clear he didn't make it back in.  From the first angle (when I posted) you could see him step out but it looked like he got back in before he caught it.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Was I seeing that Maclin play correctly? Got hit, dropped it, was mad at himself for dropping it & laid their...training staff came  out costing them a critical TO?

he couldn’t have been KTFO - he ran off the field. Looked like he was shaking off the trainer. 

If that’s what happened, that’s the most selfish lack of game awareness play I’ve ever seen. 

He did take a pretty good hit on the play.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I have said pretty much this exact same thing every week for the past month+ ("This is the worst defense I've ever seen on a 7-2/8/2/etc team.")

And that was with Shazier.    :shudder: 

 

[JoeSteeler]

Was I seeing that Maclin play correctly? Got hit, dropped it, was mad at himself for dropping it & laid their...training staff came  out costing them a critical TO?

he couldn’t have been KTFO - he ran off the field. Looked like he was shaking off the trainer. 

If that’s what happened, that’s the most selfish lack of game awareness play I’ve ever seen. 

Listed as injured in the play play FWIW

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He did take a pretty good hit on the play.

Yeah but seemingly wasn’t hurt. At all. It looked like when players know they had a 1st down and lay there mad at themselves. 

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Was I seeing that Maclin play correctly? Got hit, dropped it, was mad at himself for dropping it & laid their...training staff came  out costing them a critical TO?

he couldn’t have been KTFO - he ran off the field. Looked like he was shaking off the trainer. 

If that’s what happened, that’s the most selfish lack of game awareness play I’ve ever seen. 

Until like two plays later when a QB and coach that spend 12 hours a day on football didn't know that the clock was going to wind after they spotted the ball.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Listed as injured in the play play FWIW

Yeah, because the trainer’s came out. Meaningless.

 

[JoeSteeler]

is that how it was ruled because it that is not what happened. The ball is clearly out before he's down

3-10-BAL 3916) (Shotgun) J.Flacco sacked at BAL 31 for -8 yards (T.Watt). FUMBLES (T.Watt) [T.Watt], ball out of bounds at BAL 36.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

And that was with Shazier.    :shudder: 

Exactly.

Him not being in there was the prime reason Collins looked like Walter Payton all of a sudden though, so it can(and did) get worse.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Until like two plays later when a QB and coach that spend 12 hours a day on football didn't know that the clock was going to wind after they spotted the ball.

Well that too.  

 

[FreeBaGeL]

is that how it was ruled because it that is not what happened. The ball is clearly out before he's down

If you get stripped when dropping back to pass, it counts as a sack.  Always has.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Yeah, because the trainer’s came out. Meaningless.

at the time I thought he was hurt. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

at the time I thought he was hurt. 

Yeah - hell; I thought he was dead. 

When I looked closer his eyes were open, and it just looked like he was frustrated with himself laying there without realizing he was costing his team a TO. 

 

[JoeSteeler]

Yeah - hell; I thought he was dead. 

When I looked closer his eyes were open, and it just looked like he was frustrated with himself laying there without realizing he was costing his team a TO. 

Possibly. Sure layed there a long time though 

 

[SCT]

How do you not AT LEAST have safety help on Brown?  That's unfathomable to me

He stepped out early twice tonight. Could have gone to the house I think. 

 

[metoo]

Until like two plays later when a QB and coach that spend 12 hours a day on football didn't know that the clock was going to wind after they spotted the ball.

On the play that caused the sack/fumble the QB decided to get his Michael Vick on and outrun a defender. You can't make this up.

 

[Cobbler1]

INJURY TIMEOUTS AFTER TWO-MINUTE WARNING OF EITHER HALF 
Article 4After the two-minute warning of a half, the following shall apply: 
(a) If a team has not used its three charged team timeouts, the team of the injured player will be charged
a team timeout, unless: 
 (i) the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent; 
 (ii) the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a successful field goal, 
or an attempted Try; or 
 (iii) the opponent calls a timeout

Thanks guys. Seems illogical to penalize a TO when the injury didn't save the team any time.

 

[Bojang0301]

I have updated my predicted suspensions list:

Sean Davis - hitting too hard, taunting

Chris Moore - Excessive celebration

Alex Collins - Excessive engaged defensive contact

Danny Woodhead - Excessive use of sunscreen throughout the season

Joe Flacco - Being an idiot/dumb haircut

Antonio Brown - Unfair playing advantage

Roosevelt Nix/Patrick Ricard - Useless fantasy TD’s

Le’Veon Bell - Jumping over a defender and hurting his feelings 

Tyvis Bowser - hitting too hard

Javon Hargrave - hitting a RB in the open field 

Big Ben - Assaulting the defensive secondary

League office will be busy today for sure.

 

[apalmer]

is that how it was ruled because it that is not what happened. The ball is clearly out before he's down

How could you ever have a strip-sack if the QB had to be down before he fumbled to do it? If he goes down first there can't be a fumble.

 

[Godsbrother]

Seriously Pittsburgh defense might be the worst I have ever seen on a team with a 11-2 record

Steelers defense is really banged up.  The defense was the reason the Steelers were winning earlier this season when the offense was struggling.

Obviously they won't be getting Shazier back this season but Haden should be ready for the playoffs.  Mitchell has been playing on one ankle for a month, sitting him down for the Browns game + a bye would really help.

I'm not saying they're going to be a great defense but getting those two healthy will help

O

 

[belljr]

Steelers defense is really banged up.  The defense was the reason the Steelers were winning earlier this season when the offense was struggling.

Obviously they won't be getting Shazier back this season but Haden should be ready for the playoffs.  Mitchell has been playing on one ankle for a month, sitting him down for the Browns game + a bye would really help.

I'm not saying they're going to be a great defense but getting those two healthy will help

O

Matakevich has to be better than Spence right?  Hopefully his injury is only moinor

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Matakevich has to be better than Spence right?  Hopefully his injury is only moinor

Baba Booey?

Matakevich is instinctual and a good tackler, but he doesn't have anywhere near Shazier's lateral speed.  That fleshed itself last night on end runs over and over.  Steelers are going to have to do something schematically, there aren't going to be any linebackers floating around with sub-4.4 speed they can plug in to replace #50.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

On the play that caused the sack/fumble the QB decided to get his Michael Vick on and outrun a defender. You can't make this up.

Right - because when you pay a QB as much as Flacco it’s way too much to ask for him to throw the stupid ball out of bounds & save the clock. The Vick approach is much more sensible with ~10 seconds left, I agree. 

 

[belljr]

Baba Booey?

Matakevich is instinctual and a good tackler, but he doesn't have anywhere near Shazier's lateral speed.  That fleshed itself last night on end runs over and over.  Steelers are going to have to do something schematically, there aren't going to be any linebackers floating around with sub-4.4 speed they can plug in to replace #50.

I know but he didn't play last night.   Spence did.

 

[Statorama]

What is it about the AFC North?  Seems like every team in that division chokes in the 4th quarter against the Steelers.

And single covers Antonio Brown because it shows how macho they are

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I know but he didn't play last night.   Spence did.

Spence couldn't handle the assignment, but my point was that Matakevich, when healthy, is the primary backup to Shazier and is likely to be the starter for the rest of the season.  That can be exploited.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Spence couldn't handle the assignment, but my point was that Matakevich, when healthy, is the primary backup to Shazier and is likely to be the starter for the rest of the season.  That can be exploited.

That WILL be exploited.  Ravens did it all game with those sweeps/stretches.  Spence, et al, couldnt get there on a bunch of them and when they did they missed a metric ton of tackles.

Maybe Matakevich makes more tackles if he can actually get his hands on a guy, but teams are going to go right at him in the passing game, and probably totally copy what Baltimore did with the outside runs.  Butler needs to come up with an answer for that somehow, because it wont be stopping.