Baltimore Ravens (1 Viewer)

[twistd]

Perhaps all this Ravens going to the Super Bowl talk can stop now. They may have a pretty good defense. Their offense is pretty much as bad as it was last year. I point to the offensive line. When this team was strong their offensive line was solid and they could maintain a running game. Now they can't sustain a running game. And McNair looks really pitiful. How long till the fans start calling for Boller? This is pretty much the Bears of last year, without the rushing game. McNair reminds me of Kyle Orton.

 

[bostonfred]

You're watching them play a good defense in the rain. Seems like a pretty reasonable time to jump to conclusions.

 

[joffer]

overreact much?

 

[The Jerk]

You're watching them play a good defense in the rain. Seems like a pretty reasonable time to jump to conclusions.

Agreed that a game like tonight is not a good measuring stick for the offense, but it does bring to mind that three of the four Ravens wins are against teams that are a combined 1-12 so far this year.

 

[shadyridr]

Steve McNair is not the best QB in football but hes certainly better than Boeller. Do you honestly think Boeller makes that comeback drive last week?

As far as fantasy is concerned, Baltimore doesnt have many more easy offensive matchups for their defense. I expect them to lose some value.

 

[twistd]

overreact much?

My point is that there has been a lot of talk about the Ravens going to the Super Bowl. If you are a Super Bowl caliber team you have to win games like this. The Ravens have had trouble running the ball all season. And in that division you still have the Bengals and the Steelers to compete with. There are a lot of good teams in the AFC. If you want to be one of the elite teams you have to step up in games like this and they didn't. And overall this was a pretty weak performance.

 

[jonessed]

You're watching them play a good defense in the rain. Seems like a pretty reasonable time to jump to conclusions.

I don't care if they are playing Chicago in the Himalayas. One field goal is pathetic

 

[twistd]

You're watching them play a good defense in the rain. Seems like a pretty reasonable time to jump to conclusions.

Agreed that a game like tonight is not a good measuring stick for the offense, but it does bring to mind that three of the four Ravens wins are against teams that are a combined 1-12 so far this year.

And Steve McNair was intercepted on three of his last seventeen passes. That is a really solid performance.

 

[cws3030]

the ravens will be fine... yes mcnair had a bad game but they are still a top afc team. they just lost on the road to a very good broncos team who was coming of a bye week in crapy weather.

 

[joffer]

overreact much?

My point is that there has been a lot of talk about the Ravens going to the Super Bowl. If you are a Super Bowl caliber team you have to win games like this.

no you don't

 

[purestrength]

Frankly, I agree with the orginal poster. I'm sure McNair is a great leader and all that, but I seriously don't think he's that much better on the field than Boller.

And, no, I'm not crazy.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I don't care if they are playing Chicago in the Himalayas. One field goal is pathetic

The Rams have the only scheduled game against the Bears in the Himalayas this season. Please check the schedule next time.

 

[Assani Fisher]

overreact much?

My point is that there has been a lot of talk about the Ravens going to the Super Bowl. If you are a Super Bowl caliber team you have to win games like this. The Ravens have had trouble running the ball all season. And in that division you still have the Bengals and the Steelers to compete with. There are a lot of good teams in the AFC. If you want to be one of the elite teams you have to step up in games like this and they didn't. And overall this was a pretty weak performance.

Dude, the Steelers lost 5 games last year. Losing a road game to one of the best teams in the league is nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[The Jerk]

the ravens will be fine... yes mcnair had a bad game but they are still a top afc team. they just lost on the road to a very good broncos team who was coming of a bye week in crapy weather.

So we should throw out this game because of the weather? Did the Ravens get a dome this year?More importantly, according to you we should discount this loss because it's a quality team that the Ravens played. With that same logic, should not the wins vs. the Bucs, Raiders and Browns be dismissed? The Browns may approach mediocrity this season but the Bucs and Raiders are both unlikely to exceed four wins this season.

 

[cws3030]

the ravens will be fine... yes mcnair had a bad game but they are still a top afc team. they just lost on the road to a very good broncos team who was coming of a bye week in crapy weather.

So we should throw out this game because of the weather? Did the Ravens get a dome this year?More importantly, according to you we should discount this loss because it's a quality team that the Ravens played. With that same logic, should not the wins vs. the Bucs, Raiders and Browns be dismissed? The Browns may approach mediocrity this season but the Bucs and Raiders are both unlikely to exceed four wins this season.

no, what i am saying is that just because they lost to denver under the circumstances doesn't mean that they are not one of the elite teams in the nfl. playing a road game in bad weather against a good team coming off a bye isn't an easy feat for any team. its not a bad loss by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[twistd]

the ravens will be fine... yes mcnair had a bad game but they are still a top afc team. they just lost on the road to a very good broncos team who was coming of a bye week in crapy weather.

So we should throw out this game because of the weather? Did the Ravens get a dome this year?More importantly, according to you we should discount this loss because it's a quality team that the Ravens played. With that same logic, should not the wins vs. the Bucs, Raiders and Browns be dismissed? The Browns may approach mediocrity this season but the Bucs and Raiders are both unlikely to exceed four wins this season.

 

[The Jerk]

the ravens will be fine... yes mcnair had a bad game but they are still a top afc team. they just lost on the road to a very good broncos team who was coming of a bye week in crapy weather.

So we should throw out this game because of the weather? Did the Ravens get a dome this year?More importantly, according to you we should discount this loss because it's a quality team that the Ravens played. With that same logic, should not the wins vs. the Bucs, Raiders and Browns be dismissed? The Browns may approach mediocrity this season but the Bucs and Raiders are both unlikely to exceed four wins this season.

no, what i am saying is that just because they lost to denver under the circumstances doesn't mean that they are not one of the elite teams in the nfl. playing a road game in bad weather against a good team coming off a bye isn't an easy feat for any team. its not a bad loss by any stretch of the imagination.

I can live with that. I haven't seen the Ravens prove much of anything yet, except resilience in pulling out close wins in Weeks 3 and 4. A lot of people believe the Browns and Chargers did more to lose those games than the Ravens did to win them.I guess my point is that while the Ravens have no need to apologize for starting 4-1, they have not looked elite in doing so, and should most likely be 3-2 or even 2-3. Five of their next seven games are against teams with winning records currently, and a sixth is against the Steelers. We'll have a better gauge on "elite" status come November.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

The Ravens looked pretty normal tonight. Unless they get their running game going, it will be a long season. They have a long way to go against some good teams...which might also include being away, with some bad weather perhaps.

 

[hawaiiankrush]

It's time to "retire" Jamal and let Musa carry the load. McNair is puzzling...he hasn't look good at all so far. Not saying that Boller is the answer, but it is kind of a wash right now. Their D is what will keep them in the race.

 

[Raider Nation]

As far as fantasy is concerned, Baltimore doesnt have many more easy offensive matchups for their defense. I expect them to lose some value.

Baltimore's D is going to be a handful for ANY team this season.The only spots I see where they may have difficulty is Week 13 @ Cincy and Week 14 @ KC.

 

[Raider Nation]

Frankly, I agree with the orginal poster. I'm sure McNair is a great leader and all that, but I seriously don't think he's that much better on the field than Boller.And, no, I'm not crazy.

Maybe you aren't crazy, but that statement isn't a very bright one.

 

[CalBear]

McNair is puzzling...he hasn't look good at all so far.

He hasn't looked good since 2003.

 

[purestrength]

Frankly, I agree with the orginal poster. I'm sure McNair is a great leader and all that, but I seriously don't think he's that much better on the field than Boller.And, no, I'm not crazy.

Maybe you aren't crazy, but that statement isn't a very bright one.

Sorry, but McNair hasn't been very good since 2003.Did you watch tonight's game?

 

[bostonfred]

antibumping this to fix the time zone issue

 

[purestrength]

The Ravens might make the playoffs because the Steelers are struggling, but McNair won't take them very far.

A lot of people have high expectations for the Ravens because their quarterback is "Steve McNair, former MVP," but I doubt they last beyond the first round if they have to play a good team (which they probably would).

 

[lod2005]

You try winning a game with a sissy at RB.

That's right, I am calling Jamal Lewis a sissy. Go ahead and tell him, he knows it already.

 

[Jayrod]

I guess the Bronco defense isn't very good?

I think the Ravens have proven themselves the last two weeks with a win against one of the best teams in the AFC (Chargers) and a close loss on the road to one of the other top AFC teams (Broncos). I expect DEN, SD & BAL in the playoffs this year.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Ravens first 3 games had to be the easiest the schedule in the league. They squeeked one out on Martyball Chargers, OK but they have looked mediocre on offense even against the worst defenses in the league.

I agree, and I don't think they would have pulled out a win against the Chargers if Marty hadn't played it conservative.

 

[Godsbrother]

You try winning a game with a sissy at RB.That's right, I am calling Jamal Lewis a sissy. Go ahead and tell him, he knows it already.

I told him that you said that and you're right: he knew it already. He also wanted me to ask you if he could borrow your pink dress and matching purse tomorrow night.

 

[Godsbrother]

It's time to "retire" Jamal and let Musa carry the load. McNair is puzzling...he hasn't look good at all so far. Not saying that Boller is the answer, but it is kind of a wash right now. Their D is what will keep them in the race.

I don't agree with the McNair/Boller comment but the rest of this post is right on. Jamal Lewis looks awful to me: slow and goes down fairly easy for a big man. The Ravens D is very good (though Ray Lewis is way overrated) and as long as they stay healthy they'll be in every game they play this season.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Ravens first 3 games had to be the easiest the schedule in the league. They squeeked one out on Martyball Chargers, OK but they have looked mediocre on offense even against the worst defenses in the league.

 

[Banger]

overreact much?

My point is that there has been a lot of talk about the Ravens going to the Super Bowl. If you are a Super Bowl caliber team you have to win games like this. The Ravens have had trouble running the ball all season. And in that division you still have the Bengals and the Steelers to compete with. There are a lot of good teams in the AFC. If you want to be one of the elite teams you have to step up in games like this and they didn't. And overall this was a pretty weak performance.

when was the last undefeated team? they were on the road, on MNF in the rain and lost by a few points. Nothing to see here.

 

[Banger]

Ravens first 3 games had to be the easiest the schedule in the league. They squeeked one out on Martyball Chargers, OK but they have looked mediocre on offense even against the worst defenses in the league.

The Martyball Chargers are one of the best teams in football.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

the ravens will be fine... yes mcnair had a bad game but they are still a top afc team. they just lost on the road to a very good broncos team who was coming of a bye week in crapy weather.

So we should throw out this game because of the weather? Did the Ravens get a dome this year?More importantly, according to you we should discount this loss because it's a quality team that the Ravens played. With that same logic, should not the wins vs. the Bucs, Raiders and Browns be dismissed? The Browns may approach mediocrity this season but the Bucs and Raiders are both unlikely to exceed four wins this season.

By that logic, the Bears will be lucky to get 3 wins this season.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

McNair is making $12mm this year, which will work out to about $500k per interception.



Seriously, though -- he has the intangibles that the team will rally behind. It is the tangible things he doesn't have...like being able to throw the ball more than 15 yards downfield...to his own receiver.

Seems like I've posted this a couple of times over the last 3 years.

:titansfan:

At least the Titans will now have over $41mm under the cap last year.