Baltimore: The Next Ferguson? (1 Viewer)

[lod01]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Absolutely text book case for immediate execution upon conviction.

 

[General Tso]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

Who knows. I just hope that we can begin/continue to mend this relationship with law enforcement and the people to avoid things like this.

 

[tom22406]

Not sure if this was discussed yet but Alan Dershowitz calls this a show trial and wasn't very pleased with the AG

“This is a very sad day for justice in the United States, in Baltimore and in Maryland. Today had nothing to do with justice; today was crowd-control. Everything was motivated by a threat of riots and a desire to prevent riots. The Mayor–outrageously–said we’re gonna get justice for the victims and the families and the people of Baltimore; never mentioning the defendants…”

“The Mayor and the state attorney have made it virtually impossible for these defendants to get a fair trial. They have been presumed guilty…some in the crowd said the only reason we got these indictments is because we rioted. They may very well be right…There is an incompatibility between crowd-control and justice…you cannot allow police officers or any other defendants to become scapegoats for crowds who are demanding a continuation of rioting… Even the ACLU issued a statement today praising the indictment, and not mentioning the presumption of innocence, or proof beyond a reasonable doubt, or due process…”

“There is no plausible, hypothetical, conceivable case for murder under the facts as we now know them. You might say conceivably, there is a case for manslaughter. My prediction—they have overplayed their hand. It is unlikely they’ll get any convictions in this case as a result of this and if they do there is a good possibility they will get reversed on appeal.”

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2061630/alan-dershowitz-harvard-law-professor-slams-marilyn-mosby-for-charges-brought-against-officers/#wPYxgx8llIzj0wTa.99

Link to all the riots that happened Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, between the time things settled down following the initial outburst Monday night and the announcement of the indictments on Friday morning?

So you feel that if the AG didn't file these charges on Friday you would have had no looting or rioting?

Let's say she just sent it to a grand jury,what reaction would have came next?

ETA:Also wanted to give you some props for going out and soaking in what was going on around you.

Most people - including the police conducting the investigation - were shocked that charges came down on Friday.

I agree that the next potential flashpoint was going to be whenever charges were announced, but nobody knew when that was going to be. Why was the curfew still in place Saturday, let alone Friday?

If the riots were so closely linked to the announcement of charges, then why were there no disturbances Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday?

I would say some other things were in place after the Monday riots that helped calm things down some.A stronger police presence,the National Guard and other localities helping out and also the curfew the following night.

Once word got out that some form of charges(or no charges) would be placed on Friday then things went into high alert to be prepared for anything.I have no doubts pressure was placed to at least charge them with something in hopes things would settle down and right or wrong they certainly did settle down.

Now if these charges don't stick and these cops walk I really hope things don't explode again but I would imagine they will and much worse.All I want to know is all the facts and then I will place judgement which is what I have been saying all along in every thread like this.Trouble is so many have already made that judgement and want instant justice.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I'm glad the curfews lasted as long as they did and I think they picked the perfect time to lift them. Small sacrifice of an inconvenience for a few days to help keep order. A lot of people wouldn't be going out after 10 anyway, and if you didn't have to be in the city, you probably weren't going.

 

[RCon]

Apparently, there's been another shooting in Baltimore. Fox News is showing live video now.

Edit to add a link: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/04/man-shot-multiple-times-by-baltimore-police/

 

[avoiding injuries]

@justin_fenton: 3 signal 13's dropped at North and Penn #scanner

@justin_fenton: "Keep them coming, drop me another one" (A Signal 13 is officer in trouble/need of assistance)

 

[avoiding injuries]

@FoxNews: DEVELOPING: Man shot multiple times by #Baltimore police. http://t.co/M8KoiUxUQH

 

[General Tso]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

25-Year-Old NYC Cop Dies After Brutal Shooting

A young police officer fought for his life a day after being shot in the head during a routine patrol but succumb to his injuries.

On a perfect Sunday in May, police were searching amidst the flowering trees and bright green lawns of Queens Village for a handgun that had been used to shoot a 25-year-old police officer in the head the night before.

Police Officer Brian Moore and his partner, Police Officer Erik Jansen, had been working plainclothes in an unmarked car just after 6 p.m. on Saturday. They were coming to the corner of 212th Street and 104th Road with Moore at the wheel when they spotted a man fumbling with something in his jeans waistband.

That is the sort of observation that skeptics scoff at as just a pretext for conducting a stop and frisk. And, with the world the way it presently is, nobody could have blamed the two cops if they just cruised on past.

Moore had plans to watch the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at a neighbor's house after he went off duty.

But training and experience and instinct told Moore and his partner that their man might have a gun—a gun that could be used kill an innocent. Murder is up 100 percent in their precinct, the 105th, compared to last May.

Moore’s foot went from accelerator to brake and he pulled over. Moore reportedly called to the man, asking him what he was doing. The cops had yet even to get out of the car when their instincts were suddenly proven all too correct.

The man responded to Moore’s question by pulling a handgun and firing multiple times. One of the bullets struck Moore in the head and exited through his cheek.

He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America.

At Jamaica Hospital, Moore was listed in critical condition and placed in a medically inducted coma to facilitate intubation, but initially doctors described his wounds as “not life threatening.”

After four hours of surgery, he is said to have taken a turn for the worse, reportedly suffering brain bleed and swelling. He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America, thanks to the efforts and sacrifice of Moore and his thousands of fellow officers.

Moore is the son and nephew of retired NYPD sergeants and they were keeping vigil at his bedside along with the rest of his family. A sister was hurried there from Florida. The hallway was lined with cops, some in uniform, others in civilian clothes, all sharing the same somber expression, knowing that the very worst can befall the very best of them.

One visitor left the hospital and described the outlook with a single word that seemed all the more impossible as the wondrous May morning had given away to an even better afternoon:

“Grim.”

After the shooting, a neighbor had told police that she had seen the gunman vault a fence, cut through a yard and scurry into a house three doors down. Police arrested 35-year-old Demetrius Blackwell and charged him with attempted murder of a police officer.

But more than an hour had elapsed between the shooting and the arrest, affording Blackwell ample time to hide or pass off the gun. He had stood outside, smoking cigarettes and seeming like calm personified shortly before he was grabbed.

Blackwell was arraigned in Queens Criminal Court on Sunday. He was brought in clad in a white Tyvek jumpsuit. The prosecutor said that three witnesses had identified Blackwell as the shooter. The prosecutor noted that Blackwell’s street name is Hellraiser.

Suspect Demetrius Blackwell walks into court for his arraignment in Queens County Criminal Court in New York, May 3, 2015. Blackwell,wanted for illegal gun possession, was charged on Sunday with the attempted murder of a New York City plainclothes police officer who was shot in the head while pursuing the suspect in his unmarked car, authorities said.

Dozens of cops looked on as the judge ordered Blackwell remanded. A number of them had come from seeing Moore at the hospital. They included the head of the police union, Pat Lynch. He has two young sons who are cops.

Back at the scene of the shooting, cops had combed through budding flowerbeds and revived shrubs and lush grass. They had even clambered up ladders onto roofs.

An NYPD Crime Stoppers van was now rolling slowly through the springtime splendor, its lights flashing, an announcement crackling over its P.A. speakers.

“Crime Stoppers will pay up to a $10,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of the weapon in this incident.”

Just down 104th Road from the shooting scene, two uniformed cops were posted by a white tent marked NYPD CRIME SCENE UNIT. Cops in New York usually come out of the academy either just in time for the Fourth of July of New Year’s Eve. One of these two had started his career with spectacular fireworks, the other with the famous ball dropping in Times Square. They now stood a few feet from where a storm sewer had been dredged in the search for a gun that had gravely wounded one of other own. The muck lay in small piles at the curb, as inky and vile as underlying truth.

A passerby suggested there should be protests over violence against police.

“Never happen,” said the officer who had started with the Fourth of July detail.

Crime scene tape still closed off the surrounding blocks and a small group of youngsters took advantage of the absence of traffic to go into the 212th Street with a green rubber ball.

“At least the children are happy,” a woman said.

But the kids were more subdued than might be expected on such a day, most particularly after a long, harsh winter.

One little girl became suddenly animated when the ball bounced past her and she chased it down toward the crime scene tape.

She got an anxious look that then vanished as she managed to snatch the ball before it rolled into the traffic beyond. She then returned to the less than boisterous game.

No doubt Demetrius Blackwell and his cousin, Kory Blackwell, had played more carefree games in these same streets. Kory had gone on to play football with the NFL. Demetrius had gone to prison for attempted murder in 2000, after he fired a gun into a car, that one not occupied by police officers.

On Saturday, Demetrius Blackwell was allegedly walking these streets with another gun. The difference between him and his cousin must have been the result of forces that are beyond the powers or responsibilities of the police. The police are just the ones who are sent out to cope with the result.

Blackwell knows the surrounding yards. The ease with which he allegedly fled after the shooting raises the question of why he could not have just fled and ditched the gun when he saw the cops pull up.

If he was indeed the gunman, maybe he panicked.

Maybe he had just reached a limit.

Maybe some of his run-ins with the police had left him bitter.

Maybe he had been affected by the rhetoric that brands all cops as bad.

This much is certain, whether or not the gun is recovered; if it were not for a gun, Moore would not have been fighting for his life.

On Monday, another perfect day in May, word came that the young cop had died.

Officer Brian Moore was the same age as Freddie Gray, and anybody who grieves the loss of that young man in Baltimore should also grieve for this young man in Queens.

Where is the outrage now?

#All lives matter.

 

[avoiding injuries]

@BaltimorePolice: The reports of a man being shot at North and Pennsylvania Ave are NOT true. Officers have arrested a man for a handgun at the location

 

[timschochet]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Why would you write something like this?

Who has written anything in this thread that would justify this opinion?

 

[FairWarning]

@FoxNews: DEVELOPING: Man shot multiple times by #Baltimore police. http://t.co/M8KoiUxUQH

Gotta love twitter. No one know who shot the gun. It could have fallen out of the suspect's pants and went off.

 

[avoiding injuries]

I'm listening to local radio and two people have said the cops shot a man in the back for doing "nothin". Something is definitely going on, just not sure what.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Police LT just said the suspect was running, dropped his gun and it discharged. As he dropped his gun he fell to the ground and people assumed the police shot him.

Crowd is growing and getting angry.

 

[Parrothead]

time for another false narrative

 

[mcintyre1]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

25-Year-Old NYC Cop Dies After Brutal Shooting

A young police officer fought for his life a day after being shot in the head during a routine patrol but succumb to his injuries.

On a perfect Sunday in May, police were searching amidst the flowering trees and bright green lawns of Queens Village for a handgun that had been used to shoot a 25-year-old police officer in the head the night before.

Police Officer Brian Moore and his partner, Police Officer Erik Jansen, had been working plainclothes in an unmarked car just after 6 p.m. on Saturday. They were coming to the corner of 212th Street and 104th Road with Moore at the wheel when they spotted a man fumbling with something in his jeans waistband.

That is the sort of observation that skeptics scoff at as just a pretext for conducting a stop and frisk. And, with the world the way it presently is, nobody could have blamed the two cops if they just cruised on past.

Moore had plans to watch the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at a neighbor's house after he went off duty.

But training and experience and instinct told Moore and his partner that their man might have a gun—a gun that could be used kill an innocent. Murder is up 100 percent in their precinct, the 105th, compared to last May.

Moore’s foot went from accelerator to brake and he pulled over. Moore reportedly called to the man, asking him what he was doing. The cops had yet even to get out of the car when their instincts were suddenly proven all too correct.

The man responded to Moore’s question by pulling a handgun and firing multiple times. One of the bullets struck Moore in the head and exited through his cheek.

He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America.

At Jamaica Hospital, Moore was listed in critical condition and placed in a medically inducted coma to facilitate intubation, but initially doctors described his wounds as “not life threatening.”

After four hours of surgery, he is said to have taken a turn for the worse, reportedly suffering brain bleed and swelling. He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America, thanks to the efforts and sacrifice of Moore and his thousands of fellow officers.

Moore is the son and nephew of retired NYPD sergeants and they were keeping vigil at his bedside along with the rest of his family. A sister was hurried there from Florida. The hallway was lined with cops, some in uniform, others in civilian clothes, all sharing the same somber expression, knowing that the very worst can befall the very best of them.

One visitor left the hospital and described the outlook with a single word that seemed all the more impossible as the wondrous May morning had given away to an even better afternoon:

“Grim.”

After the shooting, a neighbor had told police that she had seen the gunman vault a fence, cut through a yard and scurry into a house three doors down. Police arrested 35-year-old Demetrius Blackwell and charged him with attempted murder of a police officer.

But more than an hour had elapsed between the shooting and the arrest, affording Blackwell ample time to hide or pass off the gun. He had stood outside, smoking cigarettes and seeming like calm personified shortly before he was grabbed.

Blackwell was arraigned in Queens Criminal Court on Sunday. He was brought in clad in a white Tyvek jumpsuit. The prosecutor said that three witnesses had identified Blackwell as the shooter. The prosecutor noted that Blackwell’s street name is Hellraiser.

Suspect Demetrius Blackwell walks into court for his arraignment in Queens County Criminal Court in New York, May 3, 2015. Blackwell,wanted for illegal gun possession, was charged on Sunday with the attempted murder of a New York City plainclothes police officer who was shot in the head while pursuing the suspect in his unmarked car, authorities said.

Dozens of cops looked on as the judge ordered Blackwell remanded. A number of them had come from seeing Moore at the hospital. They included the head of the police union, Pat Lynch. He has two young sons who are cops.

Back at the scene of the shooting, cops had combed through budding flowerbeds and revived shrubs and lush grass. They had even clambered up ladders onto roofs.

An NYPD Crime Stoppers van was now rolling slowly through the springtime splendor, its lights flashing, an announcement crackling over its P.A. speakers.

“Crime Stoppers will pay up to a $10,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of the weapon in this incident.”

Just down 104th Road from the shooting scene, two uniformed cops were posted by a white tent marked NYPD CRIME SCENE UNIT. Cops in New York usually come out of the academy either just in time for the Fourth of July of New Year’s Eve. One of these two had started his career with spectacular fireworks, the other with the famous ball dropping in Times Square. They now stood a few feet from where a storm sewer had been dredged in the search for a gun that had gravely wounded one of other own. The muck lay in small piles at the curb, as inky and vile as underlying truth.

A passerby suggested there should be protests over violence against police.

“Never happen,” said the officer who had started with the Fourth of July detail.

Crime scene tape still closed off the surrounding blocks and a small group of youngsters took advantage of the absence of traffic to go into the 212th Street with a green rubber ball.

“At least the children are happy,” a woman said.

But the kids were more subdued than might be expected on such a day, most particularly after a long, harsh winter.

One little girl became suddenly animated when the ball bounced past her and she chased it down toward the crime scene tape.

She got an anxious look that then vanished as she managed to snatch the ball before it rolled into the traffic beyond. She then returned to the less than boisterous game.

No doubt Demetrius Blackwell and his cousin, Kory Blackwell, had played more carefree games in these same streets. Kory had gone on to play football with the NFL. Demetrius had gone to prison for attempted murder in 2000, after he fired a gun into a car, that one not occupied by police officers.

On Saturday, Demetrius Blackwell was allegedly walking these streets with another gun. The difference between him and his cousin must have been the result of forces that are beyond the powers or responsibilities of the police. The police are just the ones who are sent out to cope with the result.

Blackwell knows the surrounding yards. The ease with which he allegedly fled after the shooting raises the question of why he could not have just fled and ditched the gun when he saw the cops pull up.

If he was indeed the gunman, maybe he panicked.

Maybe he had just reached a limit.

Maybe some of his run-ins with the police had left him bitter.

Maybe he had been affected by the rhetoric that brands all cops as bad.

This much is certain, whether or not the gun is recovered; if it were not for a gun, Moore would not have been fighting for his life.

On Monday, another perfect day in May, word came that the young cop had died.

Officer Brian Moore was the same age as Freddie Gray, and anybody who grieves the loss of that young man in Baltimore should also grieve for this young man in Queens.

Where is the outrage now?

#All lives matter.

"Where is the outrage now?"

I have no expectations that a scumbag criminal will not be exactly that.

I do have expectations of the people granted authority and power by my government, and by extension myself, to enforce laws and protect order and public safety.

Do you really need someone to explain to you why there doesn't need to be a rally against criminals shooting people?

 

[avoiding injuries]

Witnesses actually said they watched the police plant his feet, aim his gun and shoot the boy in his back for doing nothin.

They're also upset that the police approached the boy even though they saw him with a gun.

 

[matttyl]

Saw a headline that said "National Guard is pulling out". I giggled.

 

[squistion]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Why would you write something like this?

Perhaps he ate some bad chicken. More likely we just saw the type of person that he really is, not who he pretends to be.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Saw a headline that said "National Guard is pulling out". I giggled.

Things you can say about a riot that you can't say about your girlfriend.

 

[squistion]

Reuters U.S. News ‏@ReutersUS ·

#Baltimore police deny reports of man being shot: http://reut.rs/1JMtBFF

Reuters) - Baltimore police said on Monday that a Fox News report of a black man being shot by police in the city was not true, and the cable news network quickly issued an apology.

Guardian US ‏@GuardianUS ·

Fox News "deeply sorry" for #Baltimore shooting report http://trib.al/FxGGefl

 

[Clifford]

I don't know if I can pull off this post.

I have a problem with the indictment. Oh, it is not that I believe that there is any lack of evidence to support the charges. I think that just what has been made public supports the charges. A charge doesn't change a presumption of innocence or the ability to defend the action in answering the separate question of guilt. My problem isn't with any of this.

Instead my problem is that the indictment "says" that this "crime" was the result of six "bad" cops. I'd like to believe that, but I don't. I doubt that these six cops are bad people. I believe that they were dedicated to the goal "to protect and serve". That they were doing the job that they were hired to do. That they were doing the job the same way they had always done it, the same way that their peers perform the job everyday. While I think the community in West Baltimore would of coursed be appalled finding out that this happened - just like the rest of us there wouldn't have been a powder keg if this was just a few bad apples.

So I just can't come to accept that this is an isolated incident with six "bad cops" breaking every policy and procedure and training. No, I think these were likely six good officers practicing following questionable policies with bad procedures and inappropriate "secondary" training. Oh I so want to be wrong about this!

As for the police officers I feel sorry for them. I feel sorry that they were unlucky enough to be the ones where everything finally went wrong and the world noticed. I feel sorry for them exactly the same way I feel sorry for the Florida A&M band members that hazed the drum major to death. Which coincidentally enough.

Hopefully this is somewhat coherent.

I get the sentiment, but fundamentally a guy was shackled and in the custody of 6 officers and died as a result of a broken neck while in that custody. They became responsible for him as soon as they took control of him, and certainly they became responsible for him once his arms and legs were bound. At that point he literally had no ability to take care of himself. As far as the individual officers, I don't feel sorry for them at all. We all have to take personal responsibility for our own decisions and actions. "It's how we do it" isn't a defense, it's shirking personal responsibility. It's just blame-shifting.

Except for the sentiment of feeling sorry for the officers, I don't really disagree with any of this. Assuming there isn't something we don't know the six deserve the same kind of fate as the fifteen band members.

Given the previously undisclosed stop, I am thinking there is a lot we don't know.

FWIW I agree with Bottomfeeder. I bet these cops didn't do anything that other cops on this force don't do on a regular basis. They accidentally killed a guy, and therefore they got caught. I think this PD tacitly allowed rough and illegal techniques on corner guys all the time and now in order to save the entire department from being indicted by the JD a la Ferguson, they are nailing these six cops to the cross.

None of this really changes the fact that those six officers made choices and some of those choices led to Gray's death.

The real solution is to facilitate whistle-blowers in police the same way we want to do with corporations. Until the good cops can call out the really bad ones in a way that won't ruin their career, we'll find out about the bad guys like this instead of them being quietly removed from the force.

 

[General Tso]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Why would you write something like this?

Who has written anything in this thread that would justify this opinion?

What I wrote was completely accurate. I didn't say you'd find people trying to justify the shooting of a cop. I said that you wouldn't find a lot of sympathy being expressed for the cop. And there hasn't been.

 

[General Tso]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

25-Year-Old NYC Cop Dies After Brutal Shooting

A young police officer fought for his life a day after being shot in the head during a routine patrol but succumb to his injuries.

On a perfect Sunday in May, police were searching amidst the flowering trees and bright green lawns of Queens Village for a handgun that had been used to shoot a 25-year-old police officer in the head the night before.

Police Officer Brian Moore and his partner, Police Officer Erik Jansen, had been working plainclothes in an unmarked car just after 6 p.m. on Saturday. They were coming to the corner of 212th Street and 104th Road with Moore at the wheel when they spotted a man fumbling with something in his jeans waistband.

That is the sort of observation that skeptics scoff at as just a pretext for conducting a stop and frisk. And, with the world the way it presently is, nobody could have blamed the two cops if they just cruised on past.

Moore had plans to watch the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at a neighbor's house after he went off duty.

But training and experience and instinct told Moore and his partner that their man might have a gun—a gun that could be used kill an innocent. Murder is up 100 percent in their precinct, the 105th, compared to last May.

Moore’s foot went from accelerator to brake and he pulled over. Moore reportedly called to the man, asking him what he was doing. The cops had yet even to get out of the car when their instincts were suddenly proven all too correct.

The man responded to Moore’s question by pulling a handgun and firing multiple times. One of the bullets struck Moore in the head and exited through his cheek.

He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America.

At Jamaica Hospital, Moore was listed in critical condition and placed in a medically inducted coma to facilitate intubation, but initially doctors described his wounds as “not life threatening.”

After four hours of surgery, he is said to have taken a turn for the worse, reportedly suffering brain bleed and swelling. He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America, thanks to the efforts and sacrifice of Moore and his thousands of fellow officers.

Moore is the son and nephew of retired NYPD sergeants and they were keeping vigil at his bedside along with the rest of his family. A sister was hurried there from Florida. The hallway was lined with cops, some in uniform, others in civilian clothes, all sharing the same somber expression, knowing that the very worst can befall the very best of them.

One visitor left the hospital and described the outlook with a single word that seemed all the more impossible as the wondrous May morning had given away to an even better afternoon:

“Grim.”

After the shooting, a neighbor had told police that she had seen the gunman vault a fence, cut through a yard and scurry into a house three doors down. Police arrested 35-year-old Demetrius Blackwell and charged him with attempted murder of a police officer.

But more than an hour had elapsed between the shooting and the arrest, affording Blackwell ample time to hide or pass off the gun. He had stood outside, smoking cigarettes and seeming like calm personified shortly before he was grabbed.

Blackwell was arraigned in Queens Criminal Court on Sunday. He was brought in clad in a white Tyvek jumpsuit. The prosecutor said that three witnesses had identified Blackwell as the shooter. The prosecutor noted that Blackwell’s street name is Hellraiser.

Suspect Demetrius Blackwell walks into court for his arraignment in Queens County Criminal Court in New York, May 3, 2015. Blackwell,wanted for illegal gun possession, was charged on Sunday with the attempted murder of a New York City plainclothes police officer who was shot in the head while pursuing the suspect in his unmarked car, authorities said.

Dozens of cops looked on as the judge ordered Blackwell remanded. A number of them had come from seeing Moore at the hospital. They included the head of the police union, Pat Lynch. He has two young sons who are cops.

Back at the scene of the shooting, cops had combed through budding flowerbeds and revived shrubs and lush grass. They had even clambered up ladders onto roofs.

An NYPD Crime Stoppers van was now rolling slowly through the springtime splendor, its lights flashing, an announcement crackling over its P.A. speakers.

“Crime Stoppers will pay up to a $10,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of the weapon in this incident.”

Just down 104th Road from the shooting scene, two uniformed cops were posted by a white tent marked NYPD CRIME SCENE UNIT. Cops in New York usually come out of the academy either just in time for the Fourth of July of New Year’s Eve. One of these two had started his career with spectacular fireworks, the other with the famous ball dropping in Times Square. They now stood a few feet from where a storm sewer had been dredged in the search for a gun that had gravely wounded one of other own. The muck lay in small piles at the curb, as inky and vile as underlying truth.

A passerby suggested there should be protests over violence against police.

“Never happen,” said the officer who had started with the Fourth of July detail.

Crime scene tape still closed off the surrounding blocks and a small group of youngsters took advantage of the absence of traffic to go into the 212th Street with a green rubber ball.

“At least the children are happy,” a woman said.

But the kids were more subdued than might be expected on such a day, most particularly after a long, harsh winter.

One little girl became suddenly animated when the ball bounced past her and she chased it down toward the crime scene tape.

She got an anxious look that then vanished as she managed to snatch the ball before it rolled into the traffic beyond. She then returned to the less than boisterous game.

No doubt Demetrius Blackwell and his cousin, Kory Blackwell, had played more carefree games in these same streets. Kory had gone on to play football with the NFL. Demetrius had gone to prison for attempted murder in 2000, after he fired a gun into a car, that one not occupied by police officers.

On Saturday, Demetrius Blackwell was allegedly walking these streets with another gun. The difference between him and his cousin must have been the result of forces that are beyond the powers or responsibilities of the police. The police are just the ones who are sent out to cope with the result.

Blackwell knows the surrounding yards. The ease with which he allegedly fled after the shooting raises the question of why he could not have just fled and ditched the gun when he saw the cops pull up.

If he was indeed the gunman, maybe he panicked.

Maybe he had just reached a limit.

Maybe some of his run-ins with the police had left him bitter.

Maybe he had been affected by the rhetoric that brands all cops as bad.

This much is certain, whether or not the gun is recovered; if it were not for a gun, Moore would not have been fighting for his life.

On Monday, another perfect day in May, word came that the young cop had died.

Officer Brian Moore was the same age as Freddie Gray, and anybody who grieves the loss of that young man in Baltimore should also grieve for this young man in Queens.

Where is the outrage now?

#All lives matter.

"Where is the outrage now?"

I have no expectations that a scumbag criminal will not be exactly that.

I do have expectations of the people granted authority and power by my government, and by extension myself, to enforce laws and protect order and public safety.

Do you really need someone to explain to you why there doesn't need to be a rally against criminals shooting people?

This is not a typical criminal shooting. This looks to be the third example in the last 5 months where a NY cop was assassinated. And they've come directly on the heels of the bull#### "Hands Up Don't Shoot" false narrative that came out of Ferguson, and on the heels of as yet unknown criminal wrongdoing in the Freddie Gray case.

You don't have outrage, and you don't seem to give a ####. We get it.

 

[General Tso]

Jesus - just saw the video on Fox of the Baltimore incident this afternoon. What a circus. A mob came out and surrounded the cops and were screaming at them. They were very lucky to get out of there in one piece. How on earth they thought the guy had been shot in the back is beyond me. Just goes to show you that people see what they want to see, and provides additional insight into Michael Brown.

Maybe I've been watching too much TV the past week, but it's a starting to look like the breakdown of society a bit. Gonna be a LONG summer I think.

 

[squistion]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Why would you write something like this?

Who has written anything in this thread that would justify this opinion?

What I wrote was completely accurate. I didn't say you'd find people trying to justify the shooting of a cop. I said that you wouldn't find a lot of sympathy being expressed for the cop. And there hasn't been.

You are worse than I thought. You seem to think if people didn't take the time to make a post expressing sympathy that somehow means that they didn't find what happened to this police officer a horrible and senseless tragedy or don't feel bad about the loss to his family and friends. To say that a lack of comments is equivalent to a lack of sympathy is specious reasoning and rather insulting.

And the OP here wasn't sure if this even belonged in this thread, and I think that is the better explanation, as it doesn't seem directly related to the Freddie Gray killing or what is going on in Baltimore. Not saying it doesn't deserve its own thread or is not worthy of discussion, but it was probably viewed as a digression that many people didn't want to engage in at the time.

 

[Jack White]

Maybe I've been watching too much TV the past week,

Yeah, put down the crack pipe.

 

[rockaction]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Why would you write something like this?

Who has written anything in this thread that would justify this opinion?

What I wrote was completely accurate. I didn't say you'd find people trying to justify the shooting of a cop. I said that you wouldn't find a lot of sympathy being expressed for the cop. And there hasn't been.

I'm not sure you're that far off. The left in this thread is bending over backwards to find excuses or reasons for looting, rioting, and violence. "Root cause!" they're crying. "Root cause!" I don't think you're wrong at all. I wouldn't let a bunch of jacked-up root causers citing ACLU reports and dubious left-wing policy laments dissuade you from your opinion. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's not so far off as people are making it seem.

 

[rockaction]

Not sure if this was discussed yet but Alan Dershowitz calls this a show trial and wasn't very pleased with the AG

“This is a very sad day for justice in the United States, in Baltimore and in Maryland. Today had nothing to do with justice; today was crowd-control. Everything was motivated by a threat of riots and a desire to prevent riots. The Mayor–outrageously–said we’re gonna get justice for the victims and the families and the people of Baltimore; never mentioning the defendants…”

“The Mayor and the state attorney have made it virtually impossible for these defendants to get a fair trial. They have been presumed guilty…some in the crowd said the only reason we got these indictments is because we rioted. They may very well be right…There is an incompatibility between crowd-control and justice…you cannot allow police officers or any other defendants to become scapegoats for crowds who are demanding a continuation of rioting… Even the ACLU issued a statement today praising the indictment, and not mentioning the presumption of innocence, or proof beyond a reasonable doubt, or due process…”

“There is no plausible, hypothetical, conceivable case for murder under the facts as we now know them. You might say conceivably, there is a case for manslaughter. My prediction—they have overplayed their hand. It is unlikely they’ll get any convictions in this case as a result of this and if they do there is a good possibility they will get reversed on appeal.”

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2061630/alan-dershowitz-harvard-law-professor-slams-marilyn-mosby-for-charges-brought-against-officers/#wPYxgx8llIzj0wTa.99

Yeah, this is pretty much what I was saying the other day, only it's Alan Dershowitz. Like I said, I wouldn't trust this city with a nickel, never mind any sort of serious justice.

And in response to the The_Man, the crowds were already massed when they heard the decision, which then turned into celebration. They were certainly ready to riot.

 

[mcintyre1]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Why would you write something like this?

Who has written anything in this thread that would justify this opinion?

What I wrote was completely accurate. I didn't say you'd find people trying to justify the shooting of a cop. I said that you wouldn't find a lot of sympathy being expressed for the cop. And there hasn't been.

I'm not sure you're that far off. The left in this thread is bending over backwards to find excuses or reasons for looting, rioting, and violence. "Root cause!" they're crying. "Root cause!" I don't think you're wrong at all. I wouldn't let a bunch of jacked-up root causers citing ACLU reports and dubious left-wing policy laments dissuade you from your opinion. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's not so far off as people are making it seem.

God, why do I even bother with you people. It's like you don't even exist on the same planet as the rest of us. You must live really sad, angry lives.

 

[rockaction]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Why would you write something like this?

Who has written anything in this thread that would justify this opinion?

What I wrote was completely accurate. I didn't say you'd find people trying to justify the shooting of a cop. I said that you wouldn't find a lot of sympathy being expressed for the cop. And there hasn't been.

I'm not sure you're that far off. The left in this thread is bending over backwards to find excuses or reasons for looting, rioting, and violence. "Root cause!" they're crying. "Root cause!" I don't think you're wrong at all. I wouldn't let a bunch of jacked-up root causers citing ACLU reports and dubious left-wing policy laments dissuade you from your opinion. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's not so far off as people are making it seem.

God, why do I even bother with you people. It's like you don't even exist on the same planet as the rest of us. You must live really sad, angry lives.

The hostility in this thread has generally come from one side. I could also make sweeping generalizations about your personality and delusional politics, but will refrain.

 

[General Tso]

Not sure if this is the place for it (didn't see a thread), but the Officer shot in NYC yesterday has died. RIP.

You won't find a lot of sympathy for him in this thread.

Why would you write something like this?Who has written anything in this thread that would justify this opinion?

What I wrote was completely accurate. I didn't say you'd find people trying to justify the shooting of a cop. I said that you wouldn't find a lot of sympathy being expressed for the cop. And there hasn't been.

I'm not sure you're that far off. The left in this thread is bending over backwards to find excuses or reasons for looting, rioting, and violence. "Root cause!" they're crying. "Root cause!" I don't think you're wrong at all. I wouldn't let a bunch of jacked-up root causers citing ACLU reports and dubious left-wing policy laments dissuade you from your opinion. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's not so far off as people are making it seem.

God, why do I even bother with you people. It's like you don't even exist on the same planet as the rest of us. You must live really sad, angry lives.

huh? I made a simple statement. One that is still true by the way. No need to get your panties in a bunch over it.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

25-Year-Old NYC Cop Dies After Brutal Shooting

A young police officer fought for his life a day after being shot in the head during a routine patrol but succumb to his injuries.

On a perfect Sunday in May, police were searching amidst the flowering trees and bright green lawns of Queens Village for a handgun that had been used to shoot a 25-year-old police officer in the head the night before.

Police Officer Brian Moore and his partner, Police Officer Erik Jansen, had been working plainclothes in an unmarked car just after 6 p.m. on Saturday. They were coming to the corner of 212th Street and 104th Road with Moore at the wheel when they spotted a man fumbling with something in his jeans waistband.

That is the sort of observation that skeptics scoff at as just a pretext for conducting a stop and frisk. And, with the world the way it presently is, nobody could have blamed the two cops if they just cruised on past.

Moore had plans to watch the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at a neighbor's house after he went off duty.

But training and experience and instinct told Moore and his partner that their man might have a gun—a gun that could be used kill an innocent. Murder is up 100 percent in their precinct, the 105th, compared to last May.

Moore’s foot went from accelerator to brake and he pulled over. Moore reportedly called to the man, asking him what he was doing. The cops had yet even to get out of the car when their instincts were suddenly proven all too correct.

The man responded to Moore’s question by pulling a handgun and firing multiple times. One of the bullets struck Moore in the head and exited through his cheek.

He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America.

At Jamaica Hospital, Moore was listed in critical condition and placed in a medically inducted coma to facilitate intubation, but initially doctors described his wounds as “not life threatening.”

After four hours of surgery, he is said to have taken a turn for the worse, reportedly suffering brain bleed and swelling. He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America, thanks to the efforts and sacrifice of Moore and his thousands of fellow officers.

Moore is the son and nephew of retired NYPD sergeants and they were keeping vigil at his bedside along with the rest of his family. A sister was hurried there from Florida. The hallway was lined with cops, some in uniform, others in civilian clothes, all sharing the same somber expression, knowing that the very worst can befall the very best of them.

One visitor left the hospital and described the outlook with a single word that seemed all the more impossible as the wondrous May morning had given away to an even better afternoon:

“Grim.”

After the shooting, a neighbor had told police that she had seen the gunman vault a fence, cut through a yard and scurry into a house three doors down. Police arrested 35-year-old Demetrius Blackwell and charged him with attempted murder of a police officer.

But more than an hour had elapsed between the shooting and the arrest, affording Blackwell ample time to hide or pass off the gun. He had stood outside, smoking cigarettes and seeming like calm personified shortly before he was grabbed.

Blackwell was arraigned in Queens Criminal Court on Sunday. He was brought in clad in a white Tyvek jumpsuit. The prosecutor said that three witnesses had identified Blackwell as the shooter. The prosecutor noted that Blackwell’s street name is Hellraiser.

Suspect Demetrius Blackwell walks into court for his arraignment in Queens County Criminal Court in New York, May 3, 2015. Blackwell,wanted for illegal gun possession, was charged on Sunday with the attempted murder of a New York City plainclothes police officer who was shot in the head while pursuing the suspect in his unmarked car, authorities said.

Dozens of cops looked on as the judge ordered Blackwell remanded. A number of them had come from seeing Moore at the hospital. They included the head of the police union, Pat Lynch. He has two young sons who are cops.

Back at the scene of the shooting, cops had combed through budding flowerbeds and revived shrubs and lush grass. They had even clambered up ladders onto roofs.

An NYPD Crime Stoppers van was now rolling slowly through the springtime splendor, its lights flashing, an announcement crackling over its P.A. speakers.

“Crime Stoppers will pay up to a $10,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of the weapon in this incident.”

Just down 104th Road from the shooting scene, two uniformed cops were posted by a white tent marked NYPD CRIME SCENE UNIT. Cops in New York usually come out of the academy either just in time for the Fourth of July of New Year’s Eve. One of these two had started his career with spectacular fireworks, the other with the famous ball dropping in Times Square. They now stood a few feet from where a storm sewer had been dredged in the search for a gun that had gravely wounded one of other own. The muck lay in small piles at the curb, as inky and vile as underlying truth.

A passerby suggested there should be protests over violence against police.

“Never happen,” said the officer who had started with the Fourth of July detail.

Crime scene tape still closed off the surrounding blocks and a small group of youngsters took advantage of the absence of traffic to go into the 212th Street with a green rubber ball.

“At least the children are happy,” a woman said.

But the kids were more subdued than might be expected on such a day, most particularly after a long, harsh winter.

One little girl became suddenly animated when the ball bounced past her and she chased it down toward the crime scene tape.

She got an anxious look that then vanished as she managed to snatch the ball before it rolled into the traffic beyond. She then returned to the less than boisterous game.

No doubt Demetrius Blackwell and his cousin, Kory Blackwell, had played more carefree games in these same streets. Kory had gone on to play football with the NFL. Demetrius had gone to prison for attempted murder in 2000, after he fired a gun into a car, that one not occupied by police officers.

On Saturday, Demetrius Blackwell was allegedly walking these streets with another gun. The difference between him and his cousin must have been the result of forces that are beyond the powers or responsibilities of the police. The police are just the ones who are sent out to cope with the result.

Blackwell knows the surrounding yards. The ease with which he allegedly fled after the shooting raises the question of why he could not have just fled and ditched the gun when he saw the cops pull up.

If he was indeed the gunman, maybe he panicked.

Maybe he had just reached a limit.

Maybe some of his run-ins with the police had left him bitter.

Maybe he had been affected by the rhetoric that brands all cops as bad.

This much is certain, whether or not the gun is recovered; if it were not for a gun, Moore would not have been fighting for his life.

On Monday, another perfect day in May, word came that the young cop had died.

Officer Brian Moore was the same age as Freddie Gray, and anybody who grieves the loss of that young man in Baltimore should also grieve for this young man in Queens.

Where is the outrage now?

#All lives matter.

"Where is the outrage now?"

I have no expectations that a scumbag criminal will not be exactly that.

I do have expectations of the people granted authority and power by my government, and by extension myself, to enforce laws and protect order and public safety.

Do you really need someone to explain to you why there doesn't need to be a rally against criminals shooting people?

This is not a typical criminal shooting. This looks to be the third example in the last 5 months where a NY cop was assassinated. And they've come directly on the heels of the bull#### "Hands Up Don't Shoot" false narrative that came out of Ferguson, and on the heels of as yet unknown criminal wrongdoing in the Freddie Gray case.

You don't have outrage, and you don't seem to give a ####. We get it.

I reject this. How do you know this? Whats different about this one? What is a typical criminal shooting?

 

[Mark Davis]

I don't think you could be a Baltimore policeman now and have any sort of morale left. You've been vilified as a unit and when doing your job if anyone runs from you or God forbid were to draw some kind of weapon on you, you are in a no win situation. Someone drops a gun that goes off and all of a sudden there are reports police have shot someone in the back and another mob was ready to form. Now Joy Reid is interviewing a MD State Senator who went to the hospital to see the guy who was arrested and taken to the hospital. So now we've got state senate members going to check on people arrested for carrying guns that discharge on the street.

 

[cstu]

I don't think you could be a Baltimore policeman now and have any sort of morale left. You've been vilified as a unit and when doing your job if anyone runs from you or God forbid were to draw some kind of weapon on you, you are in a no win situation. Someone drops a gun that goes off and all of a sudden there are reports police have shot someone in the back and another mob was ready to form. Now Joy Reid is interviewing a MD State Senator who went to the hospital to see the guy who was arrested and taken to the hospital. So now we've got state senate members going to check on people arrested for carrying guns that discharge on the street.

Expect a lot of transfers - especially the best officers.

 

[General Tso]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

25-Year-Old NYC Cop Dies After Brutal Shooting

A young police officer fought for his life a day after being shot in the head during a routine patrol but succumb to his injuries.

On a perfect Sunday in May, police were searching amidst the flowering trees and bright green lawns of Queens Village for a handgun that had been used to shoot a 25-year-old police officer in the head the night before.

Police Officer Brian Moore and his partner, Police Officer Erik Jansen, had been working plainclothes in an unmarked car just after 6 p.m. on Saturday. They were coming to the corner of 212th Street and 104th Road with Moore at the wheel when they spotted a man fumbling with something in his jeans waistband.

That is the sort of observation that skeptics scoff at as just a pretext for conducting a stop and frisk. And, with the world the way it presently is, nobody could have blamed the two cops if they just cruised on past.

Moore had plans to watch the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at a neighbor's house after he went off duty.

But training and experience and instinct told Moore and his partner that their man might have a gun—a gun that could be used kill an innocent. Murder is up 100 percent in their precinct, the 105th, compared to last May.

Moore’s foot went from accelerator to brake and he pulled over. Moore reportedly called to the man, asking him what he was doing. The cops had yet even to get out of the car when their instincts were suddenly proven all too correct.

The man responded to Moore’s question by pulling a handgun and firing multiple times. One of the bullets struck Moore in the head and exited through his cheek.

He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America.

At Jamaica Hospital, Moore was listed in critical condition and placed in a medically inducted coma to facilitate intubation, but initially doctors described his wounds as “not life threatening.”

After four hours of surgery, he is said to have taken a turn for the worse, reportedly suffering brain bleed and swelling. He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America, thanks to the efforts and sacrifice of Moore and his thousands of fellow officers.

Moore is the son and nephew of retired NYPD sergeants and they were keeping vigil at his bedside along with the rest of his family. A sister was hurried there from Florida. The hallway was lined with cops, some in uniform, others in civilian clothes, all sharing the same somber expression, knowing that the very worst can befall the very best of them.

One visitor left the hospital and described the outlook with a single word that seemed all the more impossible as the wondrous May morning had given away to an even better afternoon:

“Grim.”

After the shooting, a neighbor had told police that she had seen the gunman vault a fence, cut through a yard and scurry into a house three doors down. Police arrested 35-year-old Demetrius Blackwell and charged him with attempted murder of a police officer.

But more than an hour had elapsed between the shooting and the arrest, affording Blackwell ample time to hide or pass off the gun. He had stood outside, smoking cigarettes and seeming like calm personified shortly before he was grabbed.

Blackwell was arraigned in Queens Criminal Court on Sunday. He was brought in clad in a white Tyvek jumpsuit. The prosecutor said that three witnesses had identified Blackwell as the shooter. The prosecutor noted that Blackwell’s street name is Hellraiser.

Suspect Demetrius Blackwell walks into court for his arraignment in Queens County Criminal Court in New York, May 3, 2015. Blackwell,wanted for illegal gun possession, was charged on Sunday with the attempted murder of a New York City plainclothes police officer who was shot in the head while pursuing the suspect in his unmarked car, authorities said.

Dozens of cops looked on as the judge ordered Blackwell remanded. A number of them had come from seeing Moore at the hospital. They included the head of the police union, Pat Lynch. He has two young sons who are cops.

Back at the scene of the shooting, cops had combed through budding flowerbeds and revived shrubs and lush grass. They had even clambered up ladders onto roofs.

An NYPD Crime Stoppers van was now rolling slowly through the springtime splendor, its lights flashing, an announcement crackling over its P.A. speakers.

“Crime Stoppers will pay up to a $10,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of the weapon in this incident.”

Just down 104th Road from the shooting scene, two uniformed cops were posted by a white tent marked NYPD CRIME SCENE UNIT. Cops in New York usually come out of the academy either just in time for the Fourth of July of New Year’s Eve. One of these two had started his career with spectacular fireworks, the other with the famous ball dropping in Times Square. They now stood a few feet from where a storm sewer had been dredged in the search for a gun that had gravely wounded one of other own. The muck lay in small piles at the curb, as inky and vile as underlying truth.

A passerby suggested there should be protests over violence against police.

“Never happen,” said the officer who had started with the Fourth of July detail.

Crime scene tape still closed off the surrounding blocks and a small group of youngsters took advantage of the absence of traffic to go into the 212th Street with a green rubber ball.

“At least the children are happy,” a woman said.

But the kids were more subdued than might be expected on such a day, most particularly after a long, harsh winter.

One little girl became suddenly animated when the ball bounced past her and she chased it down toward the crime scene tape.

She got an anxious look that then vanished as she managed to snatch the ball before it rolled into the traffic beyond. She then returned to the less than boisterous game.

No doubt Demetrius Blackwell and his cousin, Kory Blackwell, had played more carefree games in these same streets. Kory had gone on to play football with the NFL. Demetrius had gone to prison for attempted murder in 2000, after he fired a gun into a car, that one not occupied by police officers.

On Saturday, Demetrius Blackwell was allegedly walking these streets with another gun. The difference between him and his cousin must have been the result of forces that are beyond the powers or responsibilities of the police. The police are just the ones who are sent out to cope with the result.

Blackwell knows the surrounding yards. The ease with which he allegedly fled after the shooting raises the question of why he could not have just fled and ditched the gun when he saw the cops pull up.

If he was indeed the gunman, maybe he panicked.

Maybe he had just reached a limit.

Maybe some of his run-ins with the police had left him bitter.

Maybe he had been affected by the rhetoric that brands all cops as bad.

This much is certain, whether or not the gun is recovered; if it were not for a gun, Moore would not have been fighting for his life.

On Monday, another perfect day in May, word came that the young cop had died.

Officer Brian Moore was the same age as Freddie Gray, and anybody who grieves the loss of that young man in Baltimore should also grieve for this young man in Queens.

Where is the outrage now?

#All lives matter.

"Where is the outrage now?"

I have no expectations that a scumbag criminal will not be exactly that.

I do have expectations of the people granted authority and power by my government, and by extension myself, to enforce laws and protect order and public safety.

Do you really need someone to explain to you why there doesn't need to be a rally against criminals shooting people?

This is not a typical criminal shooting. This looks to be the third example in the last 5 months where a NY cop was assassinated. And they've come directly on the heels of the bull#### "Hands Up Don't Shoot" false narrative that came out of Ferguson, and on the heels of as yet unknown criminal wrongdoing in the Freddie Gray case.You don't have outrage, and you don't seem to give a ####. We get it.

I reject this. How do you know this? Whats different about this one? What is a typical criminal shooting?

You have to look at what I was responding to to get the appropriate context. You're right Pinky. We don't know yet if this shooting was related at all to what's been going on with Ferguson, North Charleston and Baltimore. But we do know a cop was summarily executed and the guy who did it apparently knew he was a cop. The reports I heard on he radio say the cops announced themselves as undercover cops and may have even shown a badge.Is it fair to jump to the conclusion that this was a cop execution? I don't know, is it fair for the Left to always jump to the conclusion that when a black man dies in the custody of police it is a case of police brutality and racism? To suggest that the killing of this NY cop is completely unrelated to the issue of police brutality and racism that we've been discussing in here for months is disingenuous at best. A black man just shot a white cop in the head because the cop simply asked him what he was doing. That is completely related to all these other discussions, if for no other reason than it should give pause to the people in here who have been railing against the police saying they shouldn't profile, shouldn't stop and frisk, and shouldn't have such a quick trigger finger. What we saw here was a cop who didn't have a quick enough trigger finger, and as a result he died. That's certainly relevant to the discussion here. And the lack of anyone even acknowledging it as an issue yet is really pretty sad.

 

[General Tso]

I don't think you could be a Baltimore policeman now and have any sort of morale left. You've been vilified as a unit and when doing your job if anyone runs from you or God forbid were to draw some kind of weapon on you, you are in a no win situation. Someone drops a gun that goes off and all of a sudden there are reports police have shot someone in the back and another mob was ready to form. Now Joy Reid is interviewing a MD State Senator who went to the hospital to see the guy who was arrested and taken to the hospital. So now we've got state senate members going to check on people arrested for carrying guns that discharge on the street.

Expect a lot of transfers - especially the best officers.

Exactly. There's an old phrase - be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it. We are going to see a big increase in crime in the next couple years. Bank on it.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

25-Year-Old NYC Cop Dies After Brutal Shooting

A young police officer fought for his life a day after being shot in the head during a routine patrol but succumb to his injuries.

On a perfect Sunday in May, police were searching amidst the flowering trees and bright green lawns of Queens Village for a handgun that had been used to shoot a 25-year-old police officer in the head the night before.

Police Officer Brian Moore and his partner, Police Officer Erik Jansen, had been working plainclothes in an unmarked car just after 6 p.m. on Saturday. They were coming to the corner of 212th Street and 104th Road with Moore at the wheel when they spotted a man fumbling with something in his jeans waistband.

That is the sort of observation that skeptics scoff at as just a pretext for conducting a stop and frisk. And, with the world the way it presently is, nobody could have blamed the two cops if they just cruised on past.

Moore had plans to watch the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at a neighbor's house after he went off duty.

But training and experience and instinct told Moore and his partner that their man might have a gun—a gun that could be used kill an innocent. Murder is up 100 percent in their precinct, the 105th, compared to last May.

Moore’s foot went from accelerator to brake and he pulled over. Moore reportedly called to the man, asking him what he was doing. The cops had yet even to get out of the car when their instincts were suddenly proven all too correct.

The man responded to Moore’s question by pulling a handgun and firing multiple times. One of the bullets struck Moore in the head and exited through his cheek.

He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America.

At Jamaica Hospital, Moore was listed in critical condition and placed in a medically inducted coma to facilitate intubation, but initially doctors described his wounds as “not life threatening.”

After four hours of surgery, he is said to have taken a turn for the worse, reportedly suffering brain bleed and swelling. He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America, thanks to the efforts and sacrifice of Moore and his thousands of fellow officers.

Moore is the son and nephew of retired NYPD sergeants and they were keeping vigil at his bedside along with the rest of his family. A sister was hurried there from Florida. The hallway was lined with cops, some in uniform, others in civilian clothes, all sharing the same somber expression, knowing that the very worst can befall the very best of them.

One visitor left the hospital and described the outlook with a single word that seemed all the more impossible as the wondrous May morning had given away to an even better afternoon:

“Grim.”

After the shooting, a neighbor had told police that she had seen the gunman vault a fence, cut through a yard and scurry into a house three doors down. Police arrested 35-year-old Demetrius Blackwell and charged him with attempted murder of a police officer.

But more than an hour had elapsed between the shooting and the arrest, affording Blackwell ample time to hide or pass off the gun. He had stood outside, smoking cigarettes and seeming like calm personified shortly before he was grabbed.

Blackwell was arraigned in Queens Criminal Court on Sunday. He was brought in clad in a white Tyvek jumpsuit. The prosecutor said that three witnesses had identified Blackwell as the shooter. The prosecutor noted that Blackwell’s street name is Hellraiser.

Suspect Demetrius Blackwell walks into court for his arraignment in Queens County Criminal Court in New York, May 3, 2015. Blackwell,wanted for illegal gun possession, was charged on Sunday with the attempted murder of a New York City plainclothes police officer who was shot in the head while pursuing the suspect in his unmarked car, authorities said.

Dozens of cops looked on as the judge ordered Blackwell remanded. A number of them had come from seeing Moore at the hospital. They included the head of the police union, Pat Lynch. He has two young sons who are cops.

Back at the scene of the shooting, cops had combed through budding flowerbeds and revived shrubs and lush grass. They had even clambered up ladders onto roofs.

An NYPD Crime Stoppers van was now rolling slowly through the springtime splendor, its lights flashing, an announcement crackling over its P.A. speakers.

“Crime Stoppers will pay up to a $10,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of the weapon in this incident.”

Just down 104th Road from the shooting scene, two uniformed cops were posted by a white tent marked NYPD CRIME SCENE UNIT. Cops in New York usually come out of the academy either just in time for the Fourth of July of New Year’s Eve. One of these two had started his career with spectacular fireworks, the other with the famous ball dropping in Times Square. They now stood a few feet from where a storm sewer had been dredged in the search for a gun that had gravely wounded one of other own. The muck lay in small piles at the curb, as inky and vile as underlying truth.

A passerby suggested there should be protests over violence against police.

“Never happen,” said the officer who had started with the Fourth of July detail.

Crime scene tape still closed off the surrounding blocks and a small group of youngsters took advantage of the absence of traffic to go into the 212th Street with a green rubber ball.

“At least the children are happy,” a woman said.

But the kids were more subdued than might be expected on such a day, most particularly after a long, harsh winter.

One little girl became suddenly animated when the ball bounced past her and she chased it down toward the crime scene tape.

She got an anxious look that then vanished as she managed to snatch the ball before it rolled into the traffic beyond. She then returned to the less than boisterous game.

No doubt Demetrius Blackwell and his cousin, Kory Blackwell, had played more carefree games in these same streets. Kory had gone on to play football with the NFL. Demetrius had gone to prison for attempted murder in 2000, after he fired a gun into a car, that one not occupied by police officers.

On Saturday, Demetrius Blackwell was allegedly walking these streets with another gun. The difference between him and his cousin must have been the result of forces that are beyond the powers or responsibilities of the police. The police are just the ones who are sent out to cope with the result.

Blackwell knows the surrounding yards. The ease with which he allegedly fled after the shooting raises the question of why he could not have just fled and ditched the gun when he saw the cops pull up.

If he was indeed the gunman, maybe he panicked.

Maybe he had just reached a limit.

Maybe some of his run-ins with the police had left him bitter.

Maybe he had been affected by the rhetoric that brands all cops as bad.

This much is certain, whether or not the gun is recovered; if it were not for a gun, Moore would not have been fighting for his life.

On Monday, another perfect day in May, word came that the young cop had died.

Officer Brian Moore was the same age as Freddie Gray, and anybody who grieves the loss of that young man in Baltimore should also grieve for this young man in Queens.

Where is the outrage now?

#All lives matter.

"Where is the outrage now?"

I have no expectations that a scumbag criminal will not be exactly that.

I do have expectations of the people granted authority and power by my government, and by extension myself, to enforce laws and protect order and public safety.

Do you really need someone to explain to you why there doesn't need to be a rally against criminals shooting people?

This is not a typical criminal shooting. This looks to be the third example in the last 5 months where a NY cop was assassinated. And they've come directly on the heels of the bull#### "Hands Up Don't Shoot" false narrative that came out of Ferguson, and on the heels of as yet unknown criminal wrongdoing in the Freddie Gray case.You don't have outrage, and you don't seem to give a ####. We get it.

I reject this. How do you know this? Whats different about this one? What is a typical criminal shooting?

You have to look at what I was responding to to get the appropriate context. You're right Pinky. We don't know yet if this shooting was related at all to what's been going on with Ferguson, North Charleston and Baltimore. But we do know a cop was summarily executed and the guy who did it apparently knew he was a cop. The reports I heard on he radio say the cops announced themselves as undercover cops and may have even shown a badge.Is it fair to jump to the conclusion that this was a cop execution? I don't know, is it fair for the Left to always jump to the conclusion that when a black man dies in the custody of police it is a case of police brutality and racism? To suggest that the killing of this NY cop is completely unrelated to the issue of police brutality and racism that we've been discussing in here for months is disingenuous at best. A black man just shot a white cop in the head because the cop simply asked him what he was doing. That is completely related to all these other discussions, if for no other reason than it should give pause to the people in here who have been railing against the police saying they shouldn't profile, shouldn't stop and frisk, and shouldn't have such a quick trigger finger. What we saw here was a cop who didn't have a quick enough trigger finger, and as a result he died. That's certainly relevant to the discussion here. And the lack of anyone even acknowledging it as an issue yet is really pretty sad.

Apparently this guy had a looooong history of violence and it wasn't the first time he assaulted a cop. Its unrelated. Hes just a POS.

Also, the reason people aren't jumping to the conclusion that you seem to have jumped to is because there simply isn't a long term pattern or epidemic of violence towards cops. People arent worried the guy may get off. Cops have a tough job. And this is part of it unfortunately. But there is no doubt the guy who shot him will be convicted and in jail for life.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Timing is everything

 

[rockaction]

Another guy that pleaded for the riots to stop while speaking out of both corners of his mouth.

Civic-Minded Man of the Week:

Baltimore-raised Carmelo Anthony returned to call for peace, telling CNN: “This is one Baltimore, man. Now is the time to rebuild this city back up. There’s no need to tear it down.”

This was Anthony’s second public service message on behalf of the citizenry of Baltimore. He previously appeared in a video as a smiling consort and special cameo appearance guest of gang leader and drug dealer Ronnie “Skinny Suge” Thomas, now doing 20 years in prison.

Skinny placed Anthony in his production of “Stop Snitching,” which threatened teens and their families with serious recriminations if they cooperated with Baltimore police to rid crime. The video was distributed to junior high and high school kids.

According to the Baltimore Sun, the recording “flouted authority with obscene anti-police rants showing ‘corner boys’ taunting police and waving guns — practically daring officers to confront them.”

 

[General Tso]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

25-Year-Old NYC Cop Dies After Brutal ShootingA young police officer fought for his life a day after being shot in the head during a routine patrol but succumb to his injuries.

On a perfect Sunday in May, police were searching amidst the flowering trees and bright green lawns of Queens Village for a handgun that had been used to shoot a 25-year-old police officer in the head the night before.

Police Officer Brian Moore and his partner, Police Officer Erik Jansen, had been working plainclothes in an unmarked car just after 6 p.m. on Saturday. They were coming to the corner of 212th Street and 104th Road with Moore at the wheel when they spotted a man fumbling with something in his jeans waistband.

That is the sort of observation that skeptics scoff at as just a pretext for conducting a stop and frisk. And, with the world the way it presently is, nobody could have blamed the two cops if they just cruised on past.

Moore had plans to watch the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at a neighbor's house after he went off duty.

But training and experience and instinct told Moore and his partner that their man might have a gun—a gun that could be used kill an innocent. Murder is up 100 percent in their precinct, the 105th, compared to last May.

Moore’s foot went from accelerator to brake and he pulled over. Moore reportedly called to the man, asking him what he was doing. The cops had yet even to get out of the car when their instincts were suddenly proven all too correct.

The man responded to Moore’s question by pulling a handgun and firing multiple times. One of the bullets struck Moore in the head and exited through his cheek.

He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America.

At Jamaica Hospital, Moore was listed in critical condition and placed in a medically inducted coma to facilitate intubation, but initially doctors described his wounds as “not life threatening.”

After four hours of surgery, he is said to have taken a turn for the worse, reportedly suffering brain bleed and swelling. He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America, thanks to the efforts and sacrifice of Moore and his thousands of fellow officers.

Moore is the son and nephew of retired NYPD sergeants and they were keeping vigil at his bedside along with the rest of his family. A sister was hurried there from Florida. The hallway was lined with cops, some in uniform, others in civilian clothes, all sharing the same somber expression, knowing that the very worst can befall the very best of them.

One visitor left the hospital and described the outlook with a single word that seemed all the more impossible as the wondrous May morning had given away to an even better afternoon:

“Grim.”

After the shooting, a neighbor had told police that she had seen the gunman vault a fence, cut through a yard and scurry into a house three doors down. Police arrested 35-year-old Demetrius Blackwell and charged him with attempted murder of a police officer.

But more than an hour had elapsed between the shooting and the arrest, affording Blackwell ample time to hide or pass off the gun. He had stood outside, smoking cigarettes and seeming like calm personified shortly before he was grabbed.

Blackwell was arraigned in Queens Criminal Court on Sunday. He was brought in clad in a white Tyvek jumpsuit. The prosecutor said that three witnesses had identified Blackwell as the shooter. The prosecutor noted that Blackwell’s street name is Hellraiser.

Suspect Demetrius Blackwell walks into court for his arraignment in Queens County Criminal Court in New York, May 3, 2015. Blackwell,wanted for illegal gun possession, was charged on Sunday with the attempted murder of a New York City plainclothes police officer who was shot in the head while pursuing the suspect in his unmarked car, authorities said.

Dozens of cops looked on as the judge ordered Blackwell remanded. A number of them had come from seeing Moore at the hospital. They included the head of the police union, Pat Lynch. He has two young sons who are cops.

Back at the scene of the shooting, cops had combed through budding flowerbeds and revived shrubs and lush grass. They had even clambered up ladders onto roofs.

An NYPD Crime Stoppers van was now rolling slowly through the springtime splendor, its lights flashing, an announcement crackling over its P.A. speakers.

“Crime Stoppers will pay up to a $10,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of the weapon in this incident.”

Just down 104th Road from the shooting scene, two uniformed cops were posted by a white tent marked NYPD CRIME SCENE UNIT. Cops in New York usually come out of the academy either just in time for the Fourth of July of New Year’s Eve. One of these two had started his career with spectacular fireworks, the other with the famous ball dropping in Times Square. They now stood a few feet from where a storm sewer had been dredged in the search for a gun that had gravely wounded one of other own. The muck lay in small piles at the curb, as inky and vile as underlying truth.A passerby suggested there should be protests over violence against police.“Never happen,” said the officer who had started with the Fourth of July detail.

Crime scene tape still closed off the surrounding blocks and a small group of youngsters took advantage of the absence of traffic to go into the 212th Street with a green rubber ball.

“At least the children are happy,” a woman said.

But the kids were more subdued than might be expected on such a day, most particularly after a long, harsh winter.

One little girl became suddenly animated when the ball bounced past her and she chased it down toward the crime scene tape.

She got an anxious look that then vanished as she managed to snatch the ball before it rolled into the traffic beyond. She then returned to the less than boisterous game.

No doubt Demetrius Blackwell and his cousin, Kory Blackwell, had played more carefree games in these same streets. Kory had gone on to play football with the NFL. Demetrius had gone to prison for attempted murder in 2000, after he fired a gun into a car, that one not occupied by police officers.

On Saturday, Demetrius Blackwell was allegedly walking these streets with another gun. The difference between him and his cousin must have been the result of forces that are beyond the powers or responsibilities of the police. The police are just the ones who are sent out to cope with the result.

Blackwell knows the surrounding yards. The ease with which he allegedly fled after the shooting raises the question of why he could not have just fled and ditched the gun when he saw the cops pull up.

If he was indeed the gunman, maybe he panicked.

Maybe he had just reached a limit.

Maybe some of his run-ins with the police had left him bitter.

Maybe he had been affected by the rhetoric that brands all cops as bad.

This much is certain, whether or not the gun is recovered; if it were not for a gun, Moore would not have been fighting for his life.

On Monday, another perfect day in May, word came that the young cop had died.Officer Brian Moore was the same age as Freddie Gray, and anybody who grieves the loss of that young man in Baltimore should also grieve for this young man in Queens.

Where is the outrage now?

#All lives matter.

"Where is the outrage now?"

I have no expectations that a scumbag criminal will not be exactly that.

I do have expectations of the people granted authority and power by my government, and by extension myself, to enforce laws and protect order and public safety.

Do you really need someone to explain to you why there doesn't need to be a rally against criminals shooting people?

This is not a typical criminal shooting. This looks to be the third example in the last 5 months where a NY cop was assassinated. And they've come directly on the heels of the bull#### "Hands Up Don't Shoot" false narrative that came out of Ferguson, and on the heels of as yet unknown criminal wrongdoing in the Freddie Gray case.You don't have outrage, and you don't seem to give a ####. We get it.

I reject this. How do you know this? Whats different about this one? What is a typical criminal shooting?

You have to look at what I was responding to to get the appropriate context. You're right Pinky. We don't know yet if this shooting was related at all to what's been going on with Ferguson, North Charleston and Baltimore. But we do know a cop was summarily executed and the guy who did it apparently knew he was a cop. The reports I heard on he radio say the cops announced themselves as undercover cops and may have even shown a badge.Is it fair to jump to the conclusion that this was a cop execution? I don't know, is it fair for the Left to always jump to the conclusion that when a black man dies in the custody of police it is a case of police brutality and racism? To suggest that the killing of this NY cop is completely unrelated to the issue of police brutality and racism that we've been discussing in here for months is disingenuous at best. A black man just shot a white cop in the head because the cop simply asked him what he was doing. That is completely related to all these other discussions, if for no other reason than it should give pause to the people in here who have been railing against the police saying they shouldn't profile, shouldn't stop and frisk, and shouldn't have such a quick trigger finger. What we saw here was a cop who didn't have a quick enough trigger finger, and as a result he died. That's certainly relevant to the discussion here. And the lack of anyone even acknowledging it as an issue yet is really pretty sad.

Apparently this guy had a looooong history of violence and it wasn't the first time he assaulted a cop. Its unrelated. Hes just a POS.Also, the reason people aren't jumping to the conclusion that you seem to have jumped to is because there simply isn't a long term pattern or epidemic of violence towards cops.

Right - it's a short term pattern. In the last 5 months:- Number of people who died during interactions or in the custody of NYPD - 1

- Number of NYPD cops murdered - 3

Those are the facts Pinky.

A number of criminologists believe police homicides are near their nadir. In New York City, for example, 91 people were fatally shot by police officers in 1971 — and a record-low eight in 2013, the last year for which figures are available.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/01/us/no-sharp-rise-seen-in-police-killings-though-increased-focus-may-suggest-otherwise.html?_r=0

 

[General Tso]

For those interested there's a special on CNN right now about the police issue. They are going to talk about implicit bias next. I'm very intrigued with this and believe in the science behind it.

 

[squistion]

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/4/8542855/freddie-gray-unlawful-arrest

If Freddie Gray lived, he would've likely been placed in jail for a crime he didn't commit

Freddie Gray shouldn't have been arrested. Baltimore police accused him of possessing a switchblade during an altercation on April 12. But it turns out the knife wasn't a switchblade and was, therefore, legal in Baltimore. Those facts are now publicly known, but only after the investigation into Gray's death.

But what would have happened if Gray hadn't died of a spinal cord injury he received while under police custody? It's likely Gray's unjust arrest, just like many others across the country, would have gone unnoticed by the public at large and Gray could have served some jail time, or worse, for a crime he didn't commit.

David Rocah, senior staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland, explained the scenario to Baltimore news station WBAL-TV.

"It is a travesty and a tragedy that the only reason we are looking into the facts of Freddie Gray's arrest is the fact that he's dead," Rocah said. "If he had not died, I think it is almost indisputable that what would have happened is he would have been processed in jail, he probably would have been set a bail that he couldn't afford, and he would have stayed in jail until he took a plea in order to get out of jail."

What's worse, Rocah suggested that this happens quite frequently. "The mere fact that the officers felt comfortable doing this speaks volumes," he said. "To make up a story in charging documents means you think you can get away with it, and that can only come from experience."

This is the type of scenario that leads black communities to feel unfairly targeted by police and creates deep distrust toward law enforcement. Gray was arrested unlawfully. But if it weren't for his death, he very likely would have had to pay whether through jail time or more without any media attention into the circumstances of his arrest. It's hard to imagine coming out of that situation without some resentment toward police and the criminal justice system as a whole.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I can only wonder if the recent events in Baltimore had a factor in it. Either by emboldening the shooter, or by causing the cops to be more cautious when they approached the guy. The instincts of the cops proved to be correct. They thought the guy was fiddling with something, perhaps a gun, and as it turns out he was.

I wonder if these same protestors around the country will be firing up their protest machines for this outrages killing.

25-Year-Old NYC Cop Dies After Brutal ShootingA young police officer fought for his life a day after being shot in the head during a routine patrol but succumb to his injuries.

On a perfect Sunday in May, police were searching amidst the flowering trees and bright green lawns of Queens Village for a handgun that had been used to shoot a 25-year-old police officer in the head the night before.

Police Officer Brian Moore and his partner, Police Officer Erik Jansen, had been working plainclothes in an unmarked car just after 6 p.m. on Saturday. They were coming to the corner of 212th Street and 104th Road with Moore at the wheel when they spotted a man fumbling with something in his jeans waistband.

That is the sort of observation that skeptics scoff at as just a pretext for conducting a stop and frisk. And, with the world the way it presently is, nobody could have blamed the two cops if they just cruised on past.

Moore had plans to watch the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at a neighbor's house after he went off duty.

But training and experience and instinct told Moore and his partner that their man might have a gun—a gun that could be used kill an innocent. Murder is up 100 percent in their precinct, the 105th, compared to last May.

Moore’s foot went from accelerator to brake and he pulled over. Moore reportedly called to the man, asking him what he was doing. The cops had yet even to get out of the car when their instincts were suddenly proven all too correct.

The man responded to Moore’s question by pulling a handgun and firing multiple times. One of the bullets struck Moore in the head and exited through his cheek.

He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America.

At Jamaica Hospital, Moore was listed in critical condition and placed in a medically inducted coma to facilitate intubation, but initially doctors described his wounds as “not life threatening.”

After four hours of surgery, he is said to have taken a turn for the worse, reportedly suffering brain bleed and swelling. He was fighting for his life while much of the city was out in the sunshine, enjoying a New York that had been turned into the safest big city in America, thanks to the efforts and sacrifice of Moore and his thousands of fellow officers.

Moore is the son and nephew of retired NYPD sergeants and they were keeping vigil at his bedside along with the rest of his family. A sister was hurried there from Florida. The hallway was lined with cops, some in uniform, others in civilian clothes, all sharing the same somber expression, knowing that the very worst can befall the very best of them.

One visitor left the hospital and described the outlook with a single word that seemed all the more impossible as the wondrous May morning had given away to an even better afternoon:

“Grim.”

After the shooting, a neighbor had told police that she had seen the gunman vault a fence, cut through a yard and scurry into a house three doors down. Police arrested 35-year-old Demetrius Blackwell and charged him with attempted murder of a police officer.

But more than an hour had elapsed between the shooting and the arrest, affording Blackwell ample time to hide or pass off the gun. He had stood outside, smoking cigarettes and seeming like calm personified shortly before he was grabbed.

Blackwell was arraigned in Queens Criminal Court on Sunday. He was brought in clad in a white Tyvek jumpsuit. The prosecutor said that three witnesses had identified Blackwell as the shooter. The prosecutor noted that Blackwell’s street name is Hellraiser.

Suspect Demetrius Blackwell walks into court for his arraignment in Queens County Criminal Court in New York, May 3, 2015. Blackwell,wanted for illegal gun possession, was charged on Sunday with the attempted murder of a New York City plainclothes police officer who was shot in the head while pursuing the suspect in his unmarked car, authorities said.

Dozens of cops looked on as the judge ordered Blackwell remanded. A number of them had come from seeing Moore at the hospital. They included the head of the police union, Pat Lynch. He has two young sons who are cops.

Back at the scene of the shooting, cops had combed through budding flowerbeds and revived shrubs and lush grass. They had even clambered up ladders onto roofs.

An NYPD Crime Stoppers van was now rolling slowly through the springtime splendor, its lights flashing, an announcement crackling over its P.A. speakers.

“Crime Stoppers will pay up to a $10,000 reward for information leading to the recovery of the weapon in this incident.”

Just down 104th Road from the shooting scene, two uniformed cops were posted by a white tent marked NYPD CRIME SCENE UNIT. Cops in New York usually come out of the academy either just in time for the Fourth of July of New Year’s Eve. One of these two had started his career with spectacular fireworks, the other with the famous ball dropping in Times Square. They now stood a few feet from where a storm sewer had been dredged in the search for a gun that had gravely wounded one of other own. The muck lay in small piles at the curb, as inky and vile as underlying truth.A passerby suggested there should be protests over violence against police.“Never happen,” said the officer who had started with the Fourth of July detail.

Crime scene tape still closed off the surrounding blocks and a small group of youngsters took advantage of the absence of traffic to go into the 212th Street with a green rubber ball.

“At least the children are happy,” a woman said.

But the kids were more subdued than might be expected on such a day, most particularly after a long, harsh winter.

One little girl became suddenly animated when the ball bounced past her and she chased it down toward the crime scene tape.

She got an anxious look that then vanished as she managed to snatch the ball before it rolled into the traffic beyond. She then returned to the less than boisterous game.

No doubt Demetrius Blackwell and his cousin, Kory Blackwell, had played more carefree games in these same streets. Kory had gone on to play football with the NFL. Demetrius had gone to prison for attempted murder in 2000, after he fired a gun into a car, that one not occupied by police officers.

On Saturday, Demetrius Blackwell was allegedly walking these streets with another gun. The difference between him and his cousin must have been the result of forces that are beyond the powers or responsibilities of the police. The police are just the ones who are sent out to cope with the result.

Blackwell knows the surrounding yards. The ease with which he allegedly fled after the shooting raises the question of why he could not have just fled and ditched the gun when he saw the cops pull up.

If he was indeed the gunman, maybe he panicked.

Maybe he had just reached a limit.

Maybe some of his run-ins with the police had left him bitter.

Maybe he had been affected by the rhetoric that brands all cops as bad.

This much is certain, whether or not the gun is recovered; if it were not for a gun, Moore would not have been fighting for his life.

On Monday, another perfect day in May, word came that the young cop had died.Officer Brian Moore was the same age as Freddie Gray, and anybody who grieves the loss of that young man in Baltimore should also grieve for this young man in Queens.

Where is the outrage now?

#All lives matter.

"Where is the outrage now?"

I have no expectations that a scumbag criminal will not be exactly that.

I do have expectations of the people granted authority and power by my government, and by extension myself, to enforce laws and protect order and public safety.

Do you really need someone to explain to you why there doesn't need to be a rally against criminals shooting people?

This is not a typical criminal shooting. This looks to be the third example in the last 5 months where a NY cop was assassinated. And they've come directly on the heels of the bull#### "Hands Up Don't Shoot" false narrative that came out of Ferguson, and on the heels of as yet unknown criminal wrongdoing in the Freddie Gray case.You don't have outrage, and you don't seem to give a ####. We get it.

I reject this. How do you know this? Whats different about this one? What is a typical criminal shooting?

You have to look at what I was responding to to get the appropriate context. You're right Pinky. We don't know yet if this shooting was related at all to what's been going on with Ferguson, North Charleston and Baltimore. But we do know a cop was summarily executed and the guy who did it apparently knew he was a cop. The reports I heard on he radio say the cops announced themselves as undercover cops and may have even shown a badge.Is it fair to jump to the conclusion that this was a cop execution? I don't know, is it fair for the Left to always jump to the conclusion that when a black man dies in the custody of police it is a case of police brutality and racism? To suggest that the killing of this NY cop is completely unrelated to the issue of police brutality and racism that we've been discussing in here for months is disingenuous at best. A black man just shot a white cop in the head because the cop simply asked him what he was doing. That is completely related to all these other discussions, if for no other reason than it should give pause to the people in here who have been railing against the police saying they shouldn't profile, shouldn't stop and frisk, and shouldn't have such a quick trigger finger. What we saw here was a cop who didn't have a quick enough trigger finger, and as a result he died. That's certainly relevant to the discussion here. And the lack of anyone even acknowledging it as an issue yet is really pretty sad.

Apparently this guy had a looooong history of violence and it wasn't the first time he assaulted a cop. Its unrelated. Hes just a POS.Also, the reason people aren't jumping to the conclusion that you seem to have jumped to is because there simply isn't a long term pattern or epidemic of violence towards cops.

Right - it's a short term pattern. In the last 5 months:- Number of people who died during interactions or in the custody of NYPD - 1

- Number of NYPD cops murdered - 3

Those are the facts Pinky.

A number of criminologists believe police homicides are near their nadir. In New York City, for example, 91 people were fatally shot by police officers in 1971 — and a record-low eight in 2013, the last year for which figures are available.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/01/us/no-sharp-rise-seen-in-police-killings-though-increased-focus-may-suggest-otherwise.html?_r=0

Short term pattern is cause for alarm? I hope you dont play the stock market.

 

[jonessed]

I don't think you could be a Baltimore policeman now and have any sort of morale left. You've been vilified as a unit and when doing your job if anyone runs from you or God forbid were to draw some kind of weapon on you, you are in a no win situation. Someone drops a gun that goes off and all of a sudden there are reports police have shot someone in the back and another mob was ready to form. Now Joy Reid is interviewing a MD State Senator who went to the hospital to see the guy who was arrested and taken to the hospital. So now we've got state senate members going to check on people arrested for carrying guns that discharge on the street.

They are going to end up with exactly what they deserve.

 

[General Tso]

What a freaking joke. Check out this video of what happened in Baltimore today. The news networks aren't playing this tonight. Why?

Watch the first video of the black lady who is EMPHATIC that she saw the cops shoot a black man in the back. Actually, emphatic is probably an understatement. Tim - still believe all those black witnesses who swore that Michael Brown had his hands up and didn't charge the officer?

The second video shows what a ridiculous mob scene was going on. What an amazing job those cops did there not to panic. It's amazing they got out of there with their lives.

What a ####### circus this country has become.

http://gawker.com/witnesses-say-baltimore-police-shot-man-in-back-cops-d-1702088673

 

[squistion]

Also, the reason people aren't jumping to the conclusion that you seem to have jumped to is because there simply isn't a long term pattern or epidemic of violence towards cops.

Right - it's a short term pattern. In the last 5 months:

- Number of people who died during interactions or in the custody of NYPD - 1

- Number of NYPD cops murdered - 3

Those are the facts Pinky.

I don't know what point you are trying to make with these "facts" of the number of officer versus citizen deaths over a five month period. It looks impressive, "3-1 cops are killed by civilians over civilians by cops!" but doesn't prove much of anything by focusing on such a narrow time line. I doubt anyone who has studied statistics would find the numbers significant or that they suggested a trend.

A longer term look at these numbers shows something entirely different (taken from a December 2014 article after the other two NYPD officers were slain):

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/12/police-accountability-must-continue-wake-nypd-shooting-deaths-despite-union-rhetoric/

Police Killings are Rare Compared to Citizens Killed by Police

The two cops killed Saturday, Wenjin Liu and Rafael Ramos, were the first NYPD cops shot in the line of duty since December 2011.

During that time, countless citizens have been killed by NYPD cops, including 24 shooting deaths in 2012 and 2013, as well as the chokehold death of Eric Garner in August and the shooting death of Akai Gurley while walking down a stairwell by a rookie cop claiming it was an accidental discharge.

A grand jury refused to indict NYPD officer Danny Pantaleo in the choking death of Garner and it is expected that Peter Liang, who shot Gurley in the stairwell, will also get off.

In fact, since 1999, NYPD cops have killed 179 people, 48 whom were unarmed, according to a New York Daily News investigation. Of those incidents, only three cops were indicted and only one was convicted, but never served jail time.

During those same 15 years, 12 police officers were killed by gunfire, including Saturdays incident. Essentially, one cop killed for every four unarmed citizens killed.

 

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Also, the reason people aren't jumping to the conclusion that you seem to have jumped to is because there simply isn't a long term pattern or epidemic of violence towards cops.

Right - it's a short term pattern. In the last 5 months:- Number of people who died during interactions or in the custody of NYPD - 1- Number of NYPD cops murdered - 3Those are the facts Pinky.

I don't know what point you are trying to make with these "facts" of the number of officer versus citizen deaths over a five month period. It looks impressive, "3-1 cops are killed by civilians over civilians by cops!" but doesn't prove much of anything by focusing on such a narrow time line. I doubt anyone who has studied statistics would find the numbers significant or that they suggested a trend.A longer term look at these numbers shows something entirely different (taken from a December 2014 article after the other two NYPD officers were slain):http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/12/police-accountability-must-continue-wake-nypd-shooting-deaths-despite-union-rhetoric/Police Killings are Rare Compared to Citizens Killed by PoliceThe two cops killed Saturday, Wenjin Liu and Rafael Ramos, were the first NYPD cops shot in the line of duty since December 2011.During that time, countless citizens have been killed by NYPD cops, including 24 shooting deaths in 2012 and 2013, as well as the chokehold death of Eric Garner in August and the shooting death of Akai Gurley while walking down a stairwell by a rookie cop claiming it was an accidental discharge.A grand jury refused to indict NYPD officer Danny Pantaleo in the choking death of Garner and it is expected that Peter Liang, who shot Gurley in the stairwell, will also get off.In fact, since 1999, NYPD cops have killed 179 people, 48 whom were unarmed, according to a New York Daily News investigation. Of those incidents, only three cops were indicted and only one was convicted, but never served jail time.During those same 15 years, 12 police officers were killed by gunfire, including Saturdays incident. Essentially, one cop killed for every four unarmed citizens killed.

What are your thoughts on the video I just posted?

 

[squistion]

Also, the reason people aren't jumping to the conclusion that you seem to have jumped to is because there simply isn't a long term pattern or epidemic of violence towards cops.

Right - it's a short term pattern. In the last 5 months:-Number of people who died during interactions or in the custody of NYPD - 1-

Number of NYPD cops murdered - 3

Those are the facts Pinky.

I don't know what point you are trying to make with these "facts" of the number of officer versus citizen deaths over a five month period. It looks impressive, "3-1 cops are killed by civilians over civilians by cops!" but doesn't prove much of anything by focusing on such a narrow time line. I doubt anyone who has studied statistics would find the numbers significant or that they suggested a trend.A longer term look at these numbers shows something entirely different (taken from a December 2014 article after the other two NYPD officers were slain)

:http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/12/police-accountability-must-continue-wake-nypd-shooting-deaths-despite-union-rhetoric/

Police Killings are Rare Compared to Citizens Killed by Police

The two cops killed Saturday, Wenjin Liu and Rafael Ramos, were the first NYPD cops shot in the line of duty since December 2011.During that time, countless citizens have been killed by NYPD cops, including 24 shooting deaths in 2012 and 2013, as well as the chokehold death of Eric Garner in August and the shooting death of Akai Gurley while walking down a stairwell by a rookie cop claiming it was an accidental discharge.A grand jury refused to indict NYPD officer Danny Pantaleo in the choking death of Garner and it is expected that Peter Liang, who shot Gurley in the stairwell, will also get off.In fact, since 1999, NYPD cops have killed 179 people, 48 whom were unarmed, according to a New York Daily News investigation. Of those incidents, only three cops were indicted and only one was convicted, but never served jail time.During those same 15 years, 12 police officers were killed by gunfire, including Saturdays incident. Essentially, one cop killed for every four unarmed citizens killed.

What are your thoughts on the video I just posted?

Irrelevant to the above discussion of the cherry picks stats you used to try to prove a trend of some sort of criminals/civilians more frequently killing police officers than officers killing civilians.