Baltimore: The Next Ferguson? (1 Viewer)

[TheIronSheik]

I kind of want to see what goes on at a UniverSoul Circus. I hope none of the black clowns are wearing white face. I hope using the C-word isn't consider racist. If so, my bad.

Clowns?

Easy there, buddy. You just dropped a hard C.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Martin O'Mally is announcing his run for president tomorrow morning at 10am in federal hill (a mostly white neighborhood in Baltimore) and then there is a function supporting police at noon. Protests are already planned.

 

[The_Man]

When I heard about this on the local news this morning, this thread was one of the first things I thought of. What a joke.

Also in the local media today, a Baltimore Sun cover story posits that Sheila Dixon might be the front-runner in the 2016 mayoral race. She, of course, is the mayor whose conviction for stealing gift cards intended for the poor opened the door for Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to move up to mayor from City Council President.

The worst part is, I found myself thinking how much better it would be to have her as mayor again, than for SRB to get re-elected.

 

[The_Man]

Martin O'Mally is announcing his run for president tomorrow morning at 10am in federal hill (a mostly white neighborhood in Baltimore) and then there is a function supporting police at noon. Protests are already planned.

I hope it's a greatest hits kind of speech, because I yearn to hear such soaring heights of rhetoric again:

"America, the beautiful, whose alabaster cities gleam undimmed by human tears. Oh, my friends, to govern is to choose."

 

[Parrothead]

I kind of want to see what goes on at a UniverSoul Circus. I hope none of the black clowns are wearing white face. I hope using the C-word isn't consider racist. If so, my bad.

Clowns?

Easy there, buddy. You just dropped a hard C.

C U Next Tuesday?

 

[jonessed]

When I heard about this on the local news this morning, this thread was one of the first things I thought of. What a joke.

Also in the local media today, a Baltimore Sun cover story posits that Sheila Dixon might be the front-runner in the 2016 mayoral race. She, of course, is the mayor whose conviction for stealing gift cards intended for the poor opened the door for Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to move up to mayor from City Council President.

The worst part is, I found myself thinking how much better it would be to have her as mayor again, than for SRB to get re-elected.

She stole gift cards from the poor ? How can someone like that even have a shot?

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Martin O'Mally is announcing his run for president tomorrow morning at 10am in federal hill (a mostly white neighborhood in Baltimore) and then there is a function supporting police at noon. Protests are already planned.

I hope it's a greatest hits kind of speech, because I yearn to hear such soaring heights of rhetoric again:

"America, the beautiful, whose alabaster cities gleam undimmed by human tears. Oh, my friends, to govern is to choose."

I hope he announces in musical form.

 

[avoiding injuries]

When I heard about this on the local news this morning, this thread was one of the first things I thought of. What a joke.

Also in the local media today, a Baltimore Sun cover story posits that Sheila Dixon might be the front-runner in the 2016 mayoral race. She, of course, is the mayor whose conviction for stealing gift cards intended for the poor opened the door for Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to move up to mayor from City Council President.

The worst part is, I found myself thinking how much better it would be to have her as mayor again, than for SRB to get re-elected.

She stole gift cards from the poor ? How can someone like that even have a shot?

It's not like she got caught buying crack on camera.

 

[The_Man]

When I heard about this on the local news this morning, this thread was one of the first things I thought of. What a joke.

Also in the local media today, a Baltimore Sun cover story posits that Sheila Dixon might be the front-runner in the 2016 mayoral race. She, of course, is the mayor whose conviction for stealing gift cards intended for the poor opened the door for Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to move up to mayor from City Council President.

The worst part is, I found myself thinking how much better it would be to have her as mayor again, than for SRB to get re-elected.

She stole gift cards from the poor ? How can someone like that even have a shot?

She was trying to be like Robin Hood, but just got a little confused on the details.

And I'm not kidding - she probably becomes the front-runner as soon as she announces. A lot of people will think she was a victim of the system who got convicted on trumped-up charges, and others will recognize her as a very effective street-level politician who had the city running as well as it had in a long time before her conviction.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

When I heard about this on the local news this morning, this thread was one of the first things I thought of. What a joke.

Also in the local media today, a Baltimore Sun cover story posits that Sheila Dixon might be the front-runner in the 2016 mayoral race. She, of course, is the mayor whose conviction for stealing gift cards intended for the poor opened the door for Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to move up to mayor from City Council President.

The worst part is, I found myself thinking how much better it would be to have her as mayor again, than for SRB to get re-elected.

She stole gift cards from the poor ? How can someone like that even have a shot?

Dixon also had the below infamous incident, but that probably helps her chances in Baltimore.

Council tries to mend fences on changing boundaries Recalling the night that Sheila Dixon let the shoe drop

March 21, 1991

When time mercifully causes all else to fade from memory about the great racial debate of 1991, the vision of a shoeless Sheila Dixon will unfortunately remain.

While the city councilwoman from West Baltimore did not literally put her foot in her mouth the other night, she did remove her shoe and wave it in the faces of her white colleagues and declare:

"You've been running things for the last 20 years. Now the shoe is on the other foot. See how you like it."

Baltimore Sun

 

[Jack White]

How exactly do cops prevent people from murdering each other? Has anyone figured out that one yet?

They can't and they don't. They can only come in after the fact.

The Supreme Court has ruled that cops have no legal duty to protect civilians.

People need to have the ability to defend themselves.

But doesn't Baltimore have some draconian gun laws that make that difficult?

 

[Dr Oadi]

How exactly do cops prevent people from murdering each other? Has anyone figured out that one yet?

They can't and they don't. They can only come in after the fact.

The Supreme Court has ruled that cops have no legal duty to protect civilians.

People need to have the ability to defend themselves.

But doesn't Baltimore have some draconian gun laws that make that difficult?

What gun laws? Reports are people are walking around with guns open carry. Should be a right wingers paradise.

 

[General Tso]

How exactly do cops prevent people from murdering each other? Has anyone figured out that one yet?

They can't and they don't. They can only come in after the fact.

The Supreme Court has ruled that cops have no legal duty to protect civilians.

People need to have the ability to defend themselves.

But doesn't Baltimore have some draconian gun laws that make that difficult?

What gun laws? Reports are people are walking around with guns open carry. Should be a right wingers paradise.

It is kind of ironic that a state can have such rigid gun laws, but nobody wants the cops to stop and frisk to enforce it.

 

[General Tso]

The Baltimore Spring continues. May ends with 43 homicides, the most in almost half a century. Just missed the all time record by 2. But at least we don't have to deal anymore with the horrible scourge of stop and frisk.

I found this quote particularly insightful...

“People feel as though they can do things and get away with it. I see people walking with guns almost every single day, because they know the police aren’t pulling them up like they used to.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/05/28/im-afraid-baltimore-residents-now-want-police-to-do-more-after-arrests-plunge-violence-soars/

 

[avoiding injuries]

The numbers are even more stunning because there are 200-300k less people in the city now than when the records were set. About 30% less.

 

[Apple Jack]

The Baltimore Spring continues. May ends with 43 homicides, the most in almost half a century. Just missed the all time record by 2. But at least we don't have to deal anymore with the horrible scourge of stop and frisk.

I found this quote particularly insightful...

“People feel as though they can do things and get away with it. I see people walking with guns almost every single day, because they know the police aren’t pulling them up like they used to.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/05/28/im-afraid-baltimore-residents-now-want-police-to-do-more-after-arrests-plunge-violence-soars/

Again, sorry for your hardship.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Baltimore Sun

Mosby says she'll seek order to block release of Freddie Gray autopsy report

Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby plans to seek a protective order that would block the release of Freddie Gray's autopsy report and other "sensitive" documents as she prosecutes the six police officers involved in his arrest.

Mosby told The Baltimore Sun that prosecutors "have a duty to ensure a fair and impartial process for all parties involved" and "will not be baited into litigating this case through the media."

But an attorney for one of the officers said the effort shows that "there is something in that autopsy report that they are trying to hide."

"Mrs. Mosby is the one who did an announcement discussing what she said the evidence was in a nationally televised speech," said Ivan Bates, who represents Sgt. Alicia White. "Now that it is time to turn over the evidence, to ask for a protective order is beyond disingenuous.

"It's as if she wants to do everything to make sure our clients do not get a fair trial."

Gray, 25, died in April after suffering a severe spinal cord injury in police custody. Mosby has charged the officers with violations ranging from misconduct in office to, in one case, second-degree murder. All six officers have been released on bail.

Baltimore's chief prosecutor declared her intention to seek the protective order in a court filing Monday. She also asked for more time to respond to defense motions that she and her office be removed from the case and that the case be tried outside Baltimore.

The move is the latest effort by Mosby's office to restrict information in the high-profile case. Her office has also sought a gag order to prevent participants from discussing the case in public, and has broken with a long-standing practice by not giving a copy of the autopsy report to Baltimore police.

In a response to Mosby's latest filing, defense attorneys said Wednesday that they have been denied an outline of evidence and claims against the officers, and have not been allowed to inspect a knife that was taken from Gray during his arrest.

Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, and could require the court to seal all new filings that make reference to information in the documents.

In that way, he said, it would be more restrictive than a gag order.

"Nobody would know anything but the state and the defense, so they would totally hide it from the public," Bates said. "If your case is as good as you said it was, why don't you just show the evidence? … You can't holler and say, 'I'm about accountability for the citizens,' and then run around filing for a protective order.

The Sun is one of 19 news organizations contesting Mosby's gag order request.

Gray's death on April 19, amid a national debate over police brutality, touched off days of protests. On the day of his funeral, the city erupted into several hours of riots, arson and looting.

Mosby filed charges against the officers on May 1 based on what she said was an independent investigation conducted by her office. A grand jury indicted White, Lt. Brian Rice and Officers Caesar Goodson, William Porter, Edward Nero and Garrett Miller three weeks later.

In her filing Monday, Mosby said prosecutors had "attempted to reach an agreement" with defense attorney Michael Belsky for more time to respond to the defense motions. Belsky is defending Rice and serving as the "designated contact attorney" for all of the officers.

Belsky agreed to give the state more time to respond to defense motions to dismiss the case, Mosby said, but only "in exchange for the State releasing certain discovery," including Gray's autopsy report, medical records and "all statements made by the defendants."

He did not agree to give the state more time to respond to the motion to remove the case from Baltimore, Mosby said.

Mosby said her office did not agree to "barter" over the documents.

"Because the State intends to seek a protective order to restrict the dissemination of such sensitive discovery in this matter," she wrote, "the State was not willing to so barter, and so no agreement could be reached."

The deadline for the state to respond to the defense motions is June 11. Mosby is asking for an extension until July 10.

"Defendants' Motions in total span over 150 pages, setting forth a multitude of legal arguments and factual allegations that the State intends to answer diligently," she wrote.

Last month, Deputy State's Attorney Michael Schatzow called a defense motion to dismiss the case or have Mosby recused from it "premature, frivolous, illogical, and unsupported by authority when it is not contradicted by authority."

Mosby said the officers would "suffer no prejudice" from an extension because arraignments aren't scheduled in the case until July 2.

The officers' attorneys, in their response, said prosecutors mischaracterized conversations between the sides and failed to provide a reason why an extension is needed. They said the arraignment date has "no impact" on the need for timely responses to their motions.

They noted Mosby's office took less than two weeks to conduct an investigation into the officers, and said they had "deep-seated concerns" about Mosby attending public events such as a Prince concert and a circus and doing interviews with outlets such as Vogue Magazine while the lives and careers of the officers "remain in jeopardy."


"It is the position of the Defendants that they have been unlawfully charged, that the charges are the by-product of a State's Attorney's Office with deep conflicts of interest, and that the charges are mired by prosecutorial misconduct, which is ongoing in nature," the defense attorneys wrote. "These issues are impairing the Defendants' rights of due process — rights which continue to be injured with each passing day."

The attorneys added that time "is not a luxury as the careers, livelihoods, and liberty of the Defendants hang in the balance, four of whom are charged with felonies and thus are no longer receiving the salaries necessary to support themselves and their families."

White, Rice, Goodson and Porter have been charged with felonies.

"It's very disconcerting that six [defense] lawyers were able to write these motions in two weeks, and the state's attorney's office has over 200 or some attorneys and they need an extension," Bates said. "To me, it's almost as if the state's attorney's office is playing games."


Gregg Leslie, legal defense director for the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, said judges sometimes grant gag orders or restrictions on evidence in high-profile cases because they feel the heightened scrutiny amounts to a "big headache" for those involved in the case.

But that isn't how the law should work, Leslie said, and Mosby's office should explain why it believes a protective order is warranted — especially considering that Gray's death removed standard concerns about his medical privacy.

"They should have to show there is a compelling state interest served by keeping this confidential, and that their solution is the most narrowly tailored one," Leslie said.

That could include redacting only certain details in the documents, he said.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

How Marilyn Mosby is spending today

Mixed reactions:

Some people are saying that Mosby is just honoring a prior commitment and needs to live her life.

Other people are arguing that even if Mosby had this prior commitment she should step away given the current circumstances; and Mosby's appearance as the circus ringmaster is further proof that she's more interested in celebrity than fulfilling her position in a professional manner.

That has to be photoshopped.

Footage

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

The Baltimore Spring continues. May ends with 43 homicides, the most in almost half a century. Just missed the all time record by 2. But at least we don't have to deal anymore with the horrible scourge of stop and frisk.

I found this quote particularly insightful...

“People feel as though they can do things and get away with it. I see people walking with guns almost every single day, because they know the police aren’t pulling them up like they used to.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/05/28/im-afraid-baltimore-residents-now-want-police-to-do-more-after-arrests-plunge-violence-soars/

Link

"It's enough narcotics on the streets of Baltimore to keep it intoxicated for a year," said Baltimore Police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts when discussing the 27 pharmacies that were looted during the riots.

 

[DocHolliday]

Party!

 

[General Tso]

The circus metaphor is just do damn appropriate. Maybe if Mosby stopped capitalizing on her 15 minutes of fame she could respond to the Defense motions on time. She already screwed up with the knife and mischarged the officers with falsely arresting Gray. She charged them with that on national TV, with practically the whole world watching. But the removal of those charges due to her screw-up in applying Baltimore law (which a first year law student would have seen) was not correspondingly done through the media - it was done under cover of darkness with no comment whatsoever from her office. And now she wants the autopsy report suppressed? Well, rest assured there is something in that report that is not favorable to her case. My guess is it's the earlier leak that there was heroin found in Gray, possibly that he ingested it while he was running away. Who knows.

And not for nothing but I am totally in favor of complete gag orders on all cases until the actual trial. What pisses me off about this case is that it's been a complete one way street. The Prosecutor was given the opportunity to present her case to the jury pool in a highly publicized, totally inappropriate political speech, where she completely aligned herself with the mob and, in effect, became part of the movement ("Our time is now"). And her insistence in capitalizing on her hero status with the jury pool by making all these public appearances is just bush league on so many levels. I'd be convinced that she is going to get trounced in this case, but the only thing giving me pause is that the rest of Baltimore is such a circus act as well that we have almost a guaranteed shot of jury nullification, ala OJ. I've been saying it right along, his has all the underpinnings of OJ part 2.

 

[General Tso]

And she needs to work on her dance moves too.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

I'd be convinced that she is going to get trounced in this case, but the only thing giving me pause is that the rest of Baltimore is such a circus act as well that we have almost a guaranteed shot of jury nullification, ala OJ. I've been saying it right along, his has all the underpinnings of OJ part 2.

You don't need to go outside of Baltimore to find an infamous case with strong allegations of jury bias affecting the verdict. There was a Baltimore case around the same time of the OJ trial that received a lot of regional press.

City Journal

Baltimore Sun

 

[matttyl]

She already screwed up with the knife and mischarged the officers with falsely arresting Gray. She charged them with that on national TV, with practically the whole world watching. But the removal of those charges due to her screw-up in applying Baltimore law (which a first year law student would have seen) was not correspondingly done through the media - it was done under cover of darkness with no comment whatsoever from her office.

Wait, was this legit? About the knife? There was a lot of back and forth on it, is it official that it was in fact an illegal knife (and thus grounds to be arrested on it)?

 

[General Tso]

She already screwed up with the knife and mischarged the officers with falsely arresting Gray. She charged them with that on national TV, with practically the whole world watching. But the removal of those charges due to her screw-up in applying Baltimore law (which a first year law student would have seen) was not correspondingly done through the media - it was done under cover of darkness with no comment whatsoever from her office.

Wait, was this legit? About the knife? There was a lot of back and forth on it, is it official that it was in fact an illegal knife (and thus grounds to be arrested on it)?

Yes. She never acknowledged it was an illegal knife, but she did withdraw the illegal arrest charges on the two officers a few weeks ago. See how surreptitiously she did it? I bet 98% of the people in Baltimore still think he was arrested illegally. It's beyond the pale how unfairly and unprofessionally she has acted.

 

[Jack White]

I know there has been a lot of talk about whether the knife Gray possessed was legal or not.

But ultimately, it doesn't matter. The state's making one knife "legal" and another (similar) knife "illegal" is a hallmark of tyranny.

 

[matttyl]

I know there has been a lot of talk about whether the knife Gray possessed was legal or not.

But ultimately, it doesn't matter. The state's making one knife "legal" and another (similar) knife "illegal" is a hallmark of tyranny.

Actually, it matters quite a bit for the case which is the cause of this entire thread.

 

[Jack White]

I know there has been a lot of talk about whether the knife Gray possessed was legal or not.

But ultimately, it doesn't matter. The state's making one knife "legal" and another (similar) knife "illegal" is a hallmark of tyranny.

Actually, it matters quite a bit for the case which is the cause of this entire thread.

Yeah, I know. And I'm telling you that's a major problem in the United States of Incarceration.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

How do you legitimately argue for blocking release of the autopsy to the defense, much less the public? Withholding evidence is on the edge of prosecutorial misconduct.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

And when is there a hearing on the knife issue, did that already happen, or have the defendants not been permitted to inspect that either? Is that just moot because the charges got dropped? It seems to me the defendants have the right to receive or inspect all evidence in the case regardless.

 

[DocHolliday]

Part of the reason that these types of cases/wrongful deaths continue in the U.S. is due to the lack of focus on the problem. This Baltimore case has already turned into a circus. The attention is on all the wrong things due to Mosby. That is pitiful. The people of Baltimore should be calling for her to step down.

 

[General Tso]

Part of the reason that these types of cases/wrongful deaths continue in the U.S. is due to the lack of focus on the problem. This Baltimore case has already turned into a circus. The attention is on all the wrong things due to Mosby. That is pitiful. The people of Baltimore should be calling for her to step down.

What's really scarey is that she is doing all of this on the most highly publicized case the city has ever seen. Imagine what's going on in the other cases she prosecutes.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Baltimore Sun

Mosby says she'll seek order to block release of Freddie Gray autopsy report

Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby plans to seek a protective order that would block the release of Freddie Gray's autopsy report and other "sensitive" documents as she prosecutes the six police officers involved in his arrest.

Mosby told The Baltimore Sun that prosecutors "have a duty to ensure a fair and impartial process for all parties involved" and "will not be baited into litigating this case through the media."

...

This is one of the nuttiest, most absurd, most corrupt legal statements I have ever heard, withholding evidence to ensure a fair and impartial process?

This lady sounds like a modern day Jim Garrison, indict people at a national press conference, and a "she must have something" basis for a prosecution, and completely flaunting the rules of evidence.

When do the hearings take place? It's really been too long.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Question - is the coroner in Baltimore appointed or elected, and who is he/she?

 

[Jack White]

How do you legitimately argue for blocking release of the autopsy to the defense, much less the public? Withholding evidence is on the edge of prosecutorial misconduct.

I'll pardon the redundancy . . . this time.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

How do you legitimately argue for blocking release of the autopsy to the defense, much less the public? Withholding evidence is on the edge of prosecutorial misconduct.

I'll pardon the redundancy . . . this time.

Yeah, Jack I truly enjoy your posts, but maybe this subject deserves its own thread. I don't know. I can tell you NO has been beset with claims that past DA's (Harry Connick Sr for instance, especially) withheld evidence in multiple cases. I'm not sure if you're in a town that has particular problems on this score but it's not the norm I think, even here in NO. DA's and assistant DAs get in big, big trouble for this kind of thing, but it's usually surreptitious, the defense never hears or knows of the evidence, and that's how it gets hidden. I have never heard of a DA do it brazenly about such obviously shareable evidence in such a public case. It's actually shocking.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

The people of Baltimore should be calling for her to step down.

What if the majority of Baltimoreans agree with Mosby's positions and actions?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The people of Baltimore should be calling for her to step down.

What if the majority of Baltimoreans agree with Mosby's positions and actions?

Democracy is tricky, that's where the judge and maybe the state bar steps in.

 

[squistion]

How do you legitimately argue for blocking release of the autopsy to the defense, much less the public? Withholding evidence is on the edge of prosecutorial misconduct.

Perhaps I am reading this wrong, but it appears that she is not blocking the release of the autopsy to the defense, only to the media:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/baltimore-prosecutor-seek_n_7510960.html

June 4 (Reuters) - Baltimore's top prosecutor plans to seek a protective order that would block the release of Freddie Gray's autopsy report and other documents as she prosecutes police over his arrest, the Baltimore Sun reported on Thursday.

[...]

Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, and could require the court to seal all new filings that make reference to information in the documents.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

How do you legitimately argue for blocking release of the autopsy to the defense, much less the public? Withholding evidence is on the edge of prosecutorial misconduct.

Perhaps I am reading this wrong, but it appears that she is not blocking the release of the autopsy to the defense, only to the media:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/baltimore-prosecutor-seek_n_7510960.html

June 4 (Reuters) - Baltimore's top prosecutor plans to seek a protective order that would block the release of Freddie Gray's autopsy report and other documents as she prosecutes police over his arrest, the Baltimore Sun reported on Thursday.

[...]

Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, and could require the court to seal all new filings that make reference to information in the documents.

Thanks.

Ivan Bates, who represents one of the accused officers, Sergeant Alicia White, criticized Mosby's request, saying she had made a nationally televised speech about the evidence....Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, and could require the court to seal all new filings that make reference to information in the documents.

I'm perfectly willing to disregard self-serving statements but if this is correct the defendants themselves could not review it, the public could not view it, and pleadings that reference the content of the autopsy would be sealed as well.

I have no idea why an autopsy would not be public record either. I'm totally happy to admit I'm wrong but I have never heard of this kind of thing.

 

[squistion]

How do you legitimately argue for blocking release of the autopsy to the defense, much less the public? Withholding evidence is on the edge of prosecutorial misconduct.

Perhaps I am reading this wrong, but it appears that she is not blocking the release of the autopsy to the defense, only to the media:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/04/baltimore-prosecutor-seek_n_7510960.html

June 4 (Reuters) - Baltimore's top prosecutor plans to seek a protective order that would block the release of Freddie Gray's autopsy report and other documents as she prosecutes police over his arrest, the Baltimore Sun reported on Thursday.

[...]

Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, and could require the court to seal all new filings that make reference to information in the documents.

Thanks.

Ivan Bates, who represents one of the accused officers, Sergeant Alicia White, criticized Mosby's request, saying she had made a nationally televised speech about the evidence.

...Bates said the protective order would allow only prosecutors and defense attorneys to see the documents, and could require the court to seal all new filings that make reference to information in the documents.

I'm perfectly willing to disregard self-serving statements but if this is correcting the defendants themselves could not review it, the public could not view it, and pleadings that reference the content of the autopsy would be sealed as well.

I have no idea why an autopsy would not be public record either. I'm totally happy to admit I'm wrong but I have never heard of this kind of thing.

If the defense attorneys can see the documents, then the defendants themselves would be aware of the results of the autopsy - as their attorneys, who represent them, could not refuse to share with their clients the results.

I am guessing the purpose of this is along the lines of a gag order, so that pre-trial, potential jurors would not be influenced by the public release of the autopsy report. I would assume at some point the results would be made available to the media/public but that is speculation on my part as I don't know the applicable laws or legal precedents in Maryland.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

Link

"It's enough narcotics on the streets of Baltimore to keep it intoxicated for a year," said Baltimore Police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts when discussing the 27 pharmacies that were looted during the riots.

DEA releases photos of prescription drug thieves: Authorities ask for public's help to identify suspects

Recognize Someone?

 

[General Tso]

Link

"It's enough narcotics on the streets of Baltimore to keep it intoxicated for a year," said Baltimore Police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts when discussing the 27 pharmacies that were looted during the riots.

DEA releases photos of prescription drug thieves: Authorities ask for public's help to identify suspects

Recognize Someone?

27 pharmacies were looted? Holy ####. That certainly wasn't reported at the time, was it? The blame for that, and for the subsequent violence, has to fall squarely on the head of the Mayor, who ordered the cops to stand down during the rioting. I hate to say it, but you reap what you sow.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

The police should be on the lookout for guys walking around with four hour erections.

 

[General Tso]

The police should be on the lookout for guys walking around with four hour erections.

Gives new meaning to "a spike in crime".

 

[TobiasFunke]

Link

"It's enough narcotics on the streets of Baltimore to keep it intoxicated for a year," said Baltimore Police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts when discussing the 27 pharmacies that were looted during the riots.

DEA releases photos of prescription drug thieves: Authorities ask for public's help to identify suspects

Recognize Someone?

27 pharmacies were looted? Holy ####. That certainly wasn't reported at the time, was it? The blame for that, and for the subsequent violence, has to fall squarely on the head of the Mayor, who ordered the cops to stand down during the rioting. I hate to say it, but you reap what you sow.

You're not fooling anyone. You love to say it.

 

[General Tso]

Link

"It's enough narcotics on the streets of Baltimore to keep it intoxicated for a year," said Baltimore Police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts when discussing the 27 pharmacies that were looted during the riots.

DEA releases photos of prescription drug thieves: Authorities ask for public's help to identify suspects

Recognize Someone?

27 pharmacies were looted? Holy ####. That certainly wasn't reported at the time, was it? The blame for that, and for the subsequent violence, has to fall squarely on the head of the Mayor, who ordered the cops to stand down during the rioting. I hate to say it, but you reap what you sow.

You're not fooling anyone. You love to say it.

There is no doubt that part of me finds a perverse satisfaction in seeing the failed Liberal policies of Baltimore so clearly exposed. But it is definitely twinged with sadness for the innocent victims left in its wake, particularly the new drug addicts that were born as a direct result of the looting that went unchecked. That could end up being the greatest tragedy in all of this.

 

[Tom Servo]

Baltimore Professor Who Said White People Should Deposit Their Unearned Wealth Into Black Accounts Received $60,000 From Soros Foundation…

 

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"It's enough narcotics on the streets of Baltimore to keep it intoxicated for a year," said Baltimore Police Commissioner Anthony W. Batts when discussing the 27 pharmacies that were looted during the riots.

DEA releases photos of prescription drug thieves: Authorities ask for public's help to identify suspects

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27 pharmacies were looted? Holy ####. That certainly wasn't reported at the time, was it? The blame for that, and for the subsequent violence, has to fall squarely on the head of the Mayor, who ordered the cops to stand down during the rioting. I hate to say it, but you reap what you sow.

And two methadone clinics were rolled. Don't forget the methadone.

 

[Gary Coal Man]

I'm perfectly willing to disregard self-serving statements but if this is correcting the defendants themselves could not review it, the public could not view it, and pleadings that reference the content of the autopsy would be sealed as well.

I have no idea why an autopsy would not be public record either. I'm totally happy to admit I'm wrong but I have never heard of this kind of thing.

If the defense attorneys can see the documents, then the defendants themselves would be aware of the results of the autopsy - as their attorneys, who represent them, could not refuse to share with their clients the results.

I am guessing the purpose of this is along the lines of a gag order, so that pre-trial, potential jurors would not be influenced by the public release of the autopsy report. I would assume at some point the results would be made available to the media/public but that is speculation on my part as I don't know the applicable laws or legal precedents in Maryland.

Judge strikes state's motion for gag order in Freddie Gray case

Kevin Rector, The Baltimore Sun; Updated June 8, 2015

The judge presiding over the prosecution of six Baltimore Police officers involved in the arrest of Freddie Gray struck the state's motion for a gag order in the case.

Judge Charles J. Peters ruled the motion lacked standing in an actual proceeding, as it was filed by Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's office in Circuit Court on May 14. At that time, the officers' cases were still in District Court. They weren't transferred to Circuit Court until May 21, when the officers were indicted.

Rochelle Ritchie, a Mosby spokeswoman, declined to say whether the state planned to file a new gag order motion, which Peters' ruling did not preclude.

"We're not going to litigate this case in the media and discuss our trial strategy," Ritchie said.

Gray, 25, died April 19, one week after being arrested and sustaining a severe spinal cord injury while being transported in a police van, according to Mosby's office.

Officer Caesar Goodson Jr., the driver of the transport van, has been charged with second-degree murder, and Lt. Brian Rice, Sgt. Alicia White and Officer William Porter have been charged with manslaughter.

Officers Edward Nero and Garrett Miller, the two officers who along with Rice were involved in Gray's initial arrest, face lesser charges, including second-degree assault.

The attorneys for the six officers had asked the court to strike the state's gag order motion on procedural grounds.

Nineteen media outlets, including The Baltimore Sun, also filed a motion opposing the gag order.

Nathan Siegel, an attorney representing The Sun and other media outlets, noted Mosby's office could still file a new gag order motion, but said Peters' decision "is good for the transparency of this case, at least for now."