Baseball Season Win Totals (1 Viewer)

[BRONG]

It's that time again. This thread has been money in years past, with all the great input here...

ARI DIAMONDBACKS - RSW o85½-125

ARI DIAMONDBACKS - RSW u85½-105

ATL BRAVES - RSW o84-115

ATL BRAVES - RSW u84-115

BAL ORIOLES - RSW o73-115

BAL ORIOLES - RSW u73-115

BOS RED SOX - RSW o95-115

BOS RED SOX - RSW u95-115

CHI CUBS - RSW o92-125

CHI CUBS - RSW u92-105

CHI WHITE SOX - RSW o77½-125

CHI WHITE SOX - RSW u77½-105

CIN REDS - RSW o79-105

CIN REDS - RSW u79-125

CLE INDIANS - RSW o84½-115

CLE INDIANS - RSW u84½-115

COL ROCKIES - RSW o76½-115

COL ROCKIES - RSW u76½-115

DET TIGERS - RSW o81½-125

DET TIGERS - RSW u81½-105

FLA MARLINS - RSW o75½-125

FLA MARLINS - RSW u75½-105

HOU ASTROS - RSW o73-125

HOU ASTROS - RSW u73-105

KAN ROYALS - RSW o76-125

KAN ROYALS - RSW u76-105

LOS ANGELS - RSW o88½-125

LOS ANGELS - RSW u88½-105

LOS DODGERS - RSW o84½-125

LOS DODGERS - RSW u84½-105

MIL BREWERS - RSW o81-115

MIL BREWERS - RSW u81-115

MIN TWINS - RSW o83-125

MIN TWINS - RSW u83-105

NY METS - RSW o89½-105

NY METS - RSW u89½-125

NY YANKEES - RSW o94-115

NY YANKEES - RSW u94-115

OAK ATHLETICS - RSW o82-115

OAK ATHLETICS - RSW u82-115

PHI PHILLIES - RSW o88½-125

PHI PHILLIES - RSW u88½-105

PIT PIRATES - RSW o69-110

PIT PIRATES - RSW u69-120

SDG PADRES - RSW o72-115

SDG PADRES - RSW u72-115

SFO GIANTS - RSW o80-110

SFO GIANTS - RSW u80-120

SEA MARINERS - RSW o72½-120

SEA MARINERS - RSW u72½-110

STL CARDINALS - RSW o82-120

STL CARDINALS - RSW u82-110

TAM RAYS - RSW o89½-105

TAM RAYS -RSW u89½-125

TEX RANGERS - RSW o75-115

TEX RANGERS - RSW u75-115

TOR BLUE JAYS - RSW o79-125

TOR BLUE JAYS - RSW u79-105

WAS NATIONALS - RSW o72-105

WAS NATIONALS - RSW u72-125

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Love the Yanks U94 right off the bat

Tough tough division, all the ARod stuff, older team in key spots

Also like the Dodgers O84.5

Very good all aorund team, Manny's back, they played great with him last year, pretty putrid division

Back ened of the rotation has some ??, but I thik 85 wins is very achievable

 

[Rebirtha]

Like the over for the Dodgers, Diamondbacks and Twins plus the under for the Giants and the Yankees.

 

[BRONG]

Always like the Yanks under. Cubs too, for that matter, although last year they burned me.

Just thinking value here...I like bounce-back and/or smaller market teams that languished of late. Like Cleveland, Milwaukee, Detroit, Oakland (without even looking at the totals, yet). Texas? Saw that Capella likes Texas -- that's probably a good line.

Conversely, probably the under with Philly. Boston under?

And how 'bout the Royals at a whopping 76 wins? Given their past, they are slated to win about 78 games? Wow. That tells me they'll probably be a great team to play throughout the season.

Just looked at the Padres. 72. Only the Pirates have a lower win total, GunZ.

 

[RnR]

After a quick glance..

U on NYY

O on HOU,STL, and SEA

 

[Limp Ditka]

Love the White Sox over 77 1/2. They've only failed to top 80 wins twice in the last 13 years.

ETA =

 

[Spartans Rule]

The Astros probably won't win 86 again, but 73? Definitely like the over there.

 

[BRONG]

Love the White Sox over 77 1/2. They've only failed to top 80 wins twice in the last 13 years.ETA =

That was one I thought looked low too. But not following the goings on, I just figured something must've happened to them. I took them last year and won.

 

[BRONG]

After a quick glance.. U on NYYO on HOU,STL, and SEA

The Astros probably won't win 86 again, but 73? Definitely like the over there.

If you guys get the time, explanations are always appreciated.

 

[Spartans Rule]

The Astros probably won't win 86 again, but 73? Definitely like the over there.

If you guys get the time, explanations are always appreciated.

Houston won 86 games last year. Carlos Lee and Wandy Rodriguez missed significant time with injuries. Rodriguez and Hunter Pence could be looking at breakout seasons. J.R. Towles isn't going to bat .137 again. There weren't any real significant adds, but the most significant losses were the likes of Ty Wigginton and Randy Wolf.The back end of the rotation is a problem, but it was bad last year too. The Valverde-anchored pen is pretty decent.The Astros have some issues, but they're mediocre, not awful. 73 wins ties with Baltimore for the 5th-lowest total on the list. They're better than that.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I'll take the under on Toronto and the Reds

 

[thehornet]

CWSox and Twins on the over are locks.

 

[lumpy19]

NYY u97.5(-140) is available at BetUS

I hit it right when the Arod news came out 2 days ago and they haven't touched the line, not sure why but it's still sitting there.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

NYY u97.5(-140) is available at BetUSI hit it right when the Arod news came out 2 days ago and they haven't touched the line, not sure why but it's still sitting there.

Yes, it was around 97 a few days ago everywhere.

 

[BRONG]

I'll take the under on Toronto and the Reds

CWSox and Twins on the over are locks.

Let's hear why.

 

[Finless]

Red Sox should be able to put together 108 wins this year.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I'll take the under on Toronto and the Reds

CWSox and Twins on the over are locks.

Let's hear why.

Both teams have gotten worse and both will get beat up in their own division. This isn't rocket surgery, people.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

 

[David Yudkin]

Broken down by division . . .

BOS RED SOX - 95

NY YANKEES - 94

TAM RAYS - 89½

TOR BLUE JAYS - 79

BAL ORIOLES - 73

CLE INDIANS - 84½

MIN TWINS - 83

DET TIGERS - 81½

CHI WHITE SOX - 77½

KAN ROYALS - 76

LOS ANGELS - 88½

OAK ATHLETICS - 82

TEX RANGERS - 75

SEA MARINERS - 72½

NY METS - 89½

PHI PHILLIES - 88½

ATL BRAVES - 84

FLA MARLINS - 75½

WAS NATIONALS - 72

CHI CUBS - 92

STL CARDINALS - 82

MIL BREWERS - 81

CIN REDS - 79

HOU ASTROS - 73

PIT PIRATES - 69

ARI DIAMONDBACKS - 85½

LOS DODGERS - 84½

SFO GIANTS - 80

COL ROCKIES - 76½

SDG PADRES - 72

 

[RnR]

The Astros probably won't win 86 again, but 73? Definitely like the over there.

If you guys get the time, explanations are always appreciated.

Houston won 86 games last year. Carlos Lee and Wandy Rodriguez missed significant time with injuries. Rodriguez and Hunter Pence could be looking at breakout seasons. J.R. Towles isn't going to bat .137 again. There weren't any real significant adds, but the most significant losses were the likes of Ty Wigginton and Randy Wolf.The back end of the rotation is a problem, but it was bad last year too. The Valverde-anchored pen is pretty decent.The Astros have some issues, but they're mediocre, not awful. 73 wins ties with Baltimore for the 5th-lowest total on the list. They're better than that.

What he said about Houston.As for St. Louis, they also won 86 games last season. Their bullpen blew over 30 saves last season. Isringhausen is gone and late-inning roles are being defined for young hard-throwers like Motte and Perez, so it is unlikely that number will be that high again. Chris Carpenter is healthy, Wainwright is healthy, Pujols' elbow concerns are silenced, and they have a few budding offensive players like Mather and Rasmus that could add to an already potent offense. An O/U of 82 wins is basically saying they are a .500 team, I'm saying they are an improved team from 86-75 in 2008. Yanks will struggle without A-Rod. Aging vets like Matsui, Posada, Damon, etc. will be hard pressed to maintain a high level of production. Tex, CC, and Burnett will feel the weight of the world on their shoulders out of the gate. Tampa and Boston are damn good teams, leaving it highly unlikely there will be three 90+ win teams out there.ETA: With a healthy Bedard, King Felix, and a budding Brandon Morrow... I have a hunch the Mariners can win 75 games in the weak AL West this season.

 

[guru_007]

I haven't sent anything in yet...but a few comments.

Houston - I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. Last year I had one significant play, St Louis under, and well, lost big But my basic principle for win totals is the same, pitching, pitching, pitching. I hated St Louis's pitching last year, but they way overperformed, and got oustanding performance by over looked guys like Ryan Ludwick, Pujolas was healthy, etc... Look at the Astros pitching. Oswalt is still good, but he is no way near as dominant as he was a few years ago. Tons of innings on his arm now (200+ in 6 of the last 7 years) and he is not a big guy. Last year he actually bounced back from a poor 2007, but I have to say a decline is expected. After that, the Astros are throwing out there Wandy Rodriguez, Mike Hampton, Brian Moehler, Brandon Backe. None of these guys is under 30. You think Rodriguez is young, but he's not. And frankly none of these guys has much upside potential. Their bullpen is decent, but they have lost a lot back there. No longer do you see Qualls/Wheeler/Lidge running out there, no you have Sampson, LaTroy Hawins, Geoff Geary getting to Valverde? That's not great.

The Astros offense is okay, but in my opinion overrrated. Bourn can't get on base. Matsui is often injured. Tejada is in steep decline. Berkman, Lee & Pence are all good, but they are surrounded by a whole lot of nothing. And I wish I could say there were some youngsters ready to make an impact, but there's not.

The only thing the Astros have going for them is that they play in a division with the Reds and Pirates - but at least both of those teams have some good young talent and pitching.

I think the Astros should get to 75-80 wins, but an Oswalt groin problem, or Berkman hamstring and this team will struggle mightily.

Two overs I'm still considering are the Mariner's and Giants. I love the Mariner's and Giants starting pitching, I just worry a bit about their bullpens. The Mariner's offense is mediocre, and they do have young talents guys that can make an impact. Problem with the MAriner's is if they fall far back early, it may be all youngsters, a guy like Beltre is leaving after the season anyway, If Griffey has anything left in the tank, I think the Mariner's hang around for awhile.

And as much as I like the Giants starting rotation (and their bullpen has some live arms back there, they are just a bit too hittable for my liking), that offense is I dunno, I've seen some good rotations overcome lack of hitting.

 

[thehornet]

I'll take the under on Toronto and the Reds

CWSox and Twins on the over are locks.

Let's hear why.

Both teams have gotten worse and both will get beat up in their own division. This isn't rocket surgery, people.

How have the Twins gotten worse? If anything their staff is better with another year of experience. Liriano, Slowey, Baker, Backburn and Perkins. Liriano is fully recovered, Slowey is a budding front of the rotation guy and Baker is solid. Blackburn will be average and if Perkins can do anything it is gravy. Detroit sucks and so does KC. Cleveland doesnt scare anybody.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I'll take the under on Toronto and the Reds

CWSox and Twins on the over are locks.

Let's hear why.

Both teams have gotten worse and both will get beat up in their own division. This isn't rocket surgery, people.

How have the Twins gotten worse? If anything their staff is better with another year of experience. Liriano, Slowey, Baker, Backburn and Perkins. Liriano is fully recovered, Slowey is a budding front of the rotation guy and Baker is solid. Blackburn will be average and if Perkins can do anything it is gravy. Detroit sucks and so does KC. Cleveland doesnt scare anybody.

He was talking about Toronto and the Reds.

 

[culdeus]

Nobody likes Anaheim to get 89? That seems to be a slam dunk in that division.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

PHI PHILLIES - 88½

I like the over here. The Phils' offense actually underachieved last year. If the offense returns to form and the pitching is anywhere close to what it was last year, I think they will win 94 or 95.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Broken down by division . . .

BOS RED SOX - 95 - No play. Boston should be great this season and this is a big number.

NY YANKEES - 94 - I'd go under big here. I always take the Janks under, but A-Rod will be shelved for quite a while (longer than they are saying).

TAM RAYS - 89½ - This is about right. If you put a gun to my head, I'd probably go over.

TOR BLUE JAYS - 79 - Under. Last place team easy.

BAL ORIOLES - 73 - I'm actually bullish on Ballmore. I'd take the over here. They have talent.

CLE INDIANS - 84½ - Big bounce back if VMart and Hafner are even decent, but this division is tight.

MIN TWINS - 83 - Who knows. Biggest mystery in baseball. I'd go for the over, but not love it.

DET TIGERS - 81½ - Have to be better. The pitching is still pretty suspect. Dontrelle is done. Verlander is better.

CHI WHITE SOX - 77½ - Similar to the Twins, a complete mystery.

KAN ROYALS - 76 - Much better team this year. Maybe 80 wins if they are lucky, though.

LOS ANGELS - 88½ - Great team, but Ervin going down is not a good sign.

OAK ATHLETICS - 82 - I don't have any idea how they win. Holliday will suffer. Under is more likely.

TEX RANGERS - 75 - They don't have a lick of pitching, and I mean none.

SEA MARINERS - 72½ - I actually like Felix, Bedard, and Morrow (well, as a closer). This number is probably about right. They'll be pretty bad.

NY METS - 89½ - Over. I like this team a lot, even though it has some holes. I'm assuming Johan is fine.

PHI PHILLIES - 88½ - About right. Over achieved mightily last year. Any staff with Moyer needs work.

ATL BRAVES - 84 - I don't know how this team continues to tread water. Should be a decent team, but 82 seems more appropriate to me.

FLA MARLINS - 75½ - Over. Over. Over. OVER.

WAS NATIONALS - 72 - Still pathetic. No relief in sight. I'd consider the under. Seriously. Probably the worst team in baseball.

CHI CUBS - 92 - Big fan of the Cubs this season. I think they cruise to this total and then some, but they are the Cubs.

STL CARDINALS - 82 - I love the offensive upgrades but everything hinges on Carpenter in my mind. I'd give the over a shot.

MIL BREWERS - 81 - Gallardo is an ace, but there is nothing in the way of pitching beyond that. I'd avoid.

CIN REDS - 79 - This actually looks like a pretty good team. Probably better than 79 wins.

HOU ASTROS - 73 - They don't have any pitching other than Roy Boy. Like, none. (Sorry, cos.. Wandy sucks)

PIT PIRATES - 69 - I have to think they can win more than 69. They have better pitching than Houston and some promising youth.

ARI DIAMONDBACKS - 85½ - Loads of offense. Should win the division, but 86 wins is far from a lock.

LOS DODGERS - 84½ - Is Manny that valuable? I really don't like this team.

SFO GIANTS - 80 - Way better this year, I think. I could see them even winning this division.

COL ROCKIES - 76½ - Could surprise. Plenty of hitting but who knows with their pitching. Lost some parts.

SDG PADRES - 72 - Godawful.

My favorites of these (in order of confidence):FLA over 75½

NYY under 94 (if you can still get it)

TOR under 79

CHC over 92

CIN over 79

BAL over 73

NYM over 89½

 

[Mr. Pickles]

King Felix

Can we stop calling him this? He hasn't really done all that much.

 

[Eephus]

King Felix

Can we stop calling him this? He hasn't really done all that much.

You're welcome to add "Fuh" as a prefix

 

[Mr. Pickles]

King Felix

Can we stop calling him this? He hasn't really done all that much.

You're welcome to add "Fuh" as a prefix

I was looking for a video of his grand slam in that one at bat last year against Johan. 53.5 RC/G has to be the single season all time record.edit: found it

 

[Doctor Detroit]

It's that time again. This thread has been money in years past, with all the great input here...

ARI DIAMONDBACKS - RSW o85½-125

ARI DIAMONDBACKS - RSW u85½-105

ATL BRAVES - RSW o84-115

ATL BRAVES - RSW u84-115

BAL ORIOLES - RSW o73-115

BAL ORIOLES - RSW u73-115

BOS RED SOX - RSW o95-115

BOS RED SOX - RSW u95-115

CHI CUBS - RSW o92-125

CHI CUBS - RSW u92-105

CHI WHITE SOX - RSW o77½-125

CHI WHITE SOX - RSW u77½-105

CIN REDS - RSW o79-105

CIN REDS - RSW u79-125

CLE INDIANS - RSW o84½-115

CLE INDIANS - RSW u84½-115

COL ROCKIES - RSW o76½-115

COL ROCKIES - RSW u76½-115

DET TIGERS - RSW o81½-125

DET TIGERS - RSW u81½-105

FLA MARLINS - RSW o75½-125

FLA MARLINS - RSW u75½-105

HOU ASTROS - RSW o73-125

HOU ASTROS - RSW u73-105

KAN ROYALS - RSW o76-125

KAN ROYALS - RSW u76-105

LOS ANGELS - RSW o88½-125

LOS ANGELS - RSW u88½-105

LOS DODGERS - RSW o84½-125

LOS DODGERS - RSW u84½-105

MIL BREWERS - RSW o81-115

MIL BREWERS - RSW u81-115

MIN TWINS - RSW o83-125

MIN TWINS - RSW u83-105

NY METS - RSW o89½-105

NY METS - RSW u89½-125

NY YANKEES - RSW o94-115

NY YANKEES - RSW u94-115

OAK ATHLETICS - RSW o82-115

OAK ATHLETICS - RSW u82-115

PHI PHILLIES - RSW o88½-125

PHI PHILLIES - RSW u88½-105

PIT PIRATES - RSW o69-110

PIT PIRATES - RSW u69-120

SDG PADRES - RSW o72-115

SDG PADRES - RSW u72-115

SFO GIANTS - RSW o80-110

SFO GIANTS - RSW u80-120

SEA MARINERS - RSW o72½-120

SEA MARINERS - RSW u72½-110

STL CARDINALS - RSW o82-120

STL CARDINALS - RSW u82-110

TAM RAYS - RSW o89½-105

TAM RAYS -RSW u89½-125

TEX RANGERS - RSW o75-115

TEX RANGERS - RSW u75-115

TOR BLUE JAYS - RSW o79-125

TOR BLUE JAYS - RSW u79-105

WAS NATIONALS - RSW o72-105

WAS NATIONALS - RSW u72-125

Indians over 84.5Nationals under 72

Devil Rays under 89.5

Dodgers over 84.5

A's over 82

Those are the five that stand out to me right now although the Cubs under 92 and the Giants under 80 are decent bets also IMO.

 

[Mike Shanahan Fan]

-125 is a little tough, but I don't think there's any conceivable way the Doyers don't clear 84 wins. They have the best offense in the division, the 2nd best starting pitching, the best bullpen, and the 2nd best defense.

 

[ImTheScientist]

 

[Mr. Pickles]

FLA MARLINS - 75½ - Over. Over. Over. OVER.

Are we gonna be rich?

 

[Woogie Lee]

FLA MARLINS - 75½ - Over. Over. Over. OVER.

Are we gonna be rich?

Let's do it!

 

[Annyong]

-125 is a little tough, but I don't think there's any conceivable way the Doyers don't clear 84 wins. They have the best offense in the division, the 2nd best starting pitching, the best bullpen, and the 2nd best defense.

Looks really good so far.