Bears WRs? (1 Viewer)

[az_prof]

I am interested in hearing people's opinions on the short term and long term (dynasty) prospects of the Bear's receivers. It seems to be a mess and no one seems to have much value, despite playing in a Martz offense.

Knox: in the past he seemed to have the most pure talent as a receiver, but from what I read he is on the outs. What's up? Short term low but long term high value???? Or, is he just not as good as we thought the past two years?

Bennett: Injured since week 2 but supposedly Cutler likes him. Is he just relegated to the bench or is he the short term guy you want?

Williams: is the only guy who has had an elite season, and that was under Martz in Detroit. He has struggled this year, but it sounds like he just regained his starting gig over Knox. I find it hard to trust the guy because he has had so many opportunities with good QBs to succeed.

Sensenbacher: Seems to be the flavor of the day but I am not sold.

Hester: such a mediocre performance as a receiver yet he continues to start.

So, I guess my interest mostly is Knox, Bennet and Williams. Does one of these guys emerge as a good fantasy player this year? Next year?

 

[Clifford]

 

[az_prof]

Does this mean you don't like any of these guys, short term or long term?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I noticed being at the mnf game vs Detroit that Hester was on the field a lot and has been targeted frequently the last two games

Decent bye week filler maybe in redraft. In dynasty none of these dudes are worth anything

 

[mbuehner]

Its a team full of low end possession or gimmick receivers. Johnny Knox is the only one talented enough to potentially start (WR2 maybe) anywhere else in the league at WR, and he seems to have checked out.. or else he's just not very good. Earl Bennett could maybe be a possession receiver on another team if he could stay healthy. The rest... even more blah. Sensenbacher gets catches by default- he's their hands guy and he drops a lot of balls, there's a reason he went undrafted. Hester should play a handful of snaps a game- he often lines up wrong or runs the wrong routes or drops the ball, plus the more snaps he plays the less of a threat he is in the return game (they seem to have finally figured that out and he's more limited on offense this season, but in my mind still sees too many snaps).

From a fantasy pov? Literally none of these guys is consistent enough to start in my mind. Hester is probably useful if returns are tallied, and in leagues you dont have to pick your starters. Sensebacher has some value in PPR until Bennett returns, how they would split their 8 yard catches is anyone's guess so thats a negative. Thats about it.

 

[Clifford]

Knox isn't even starting on his own team. He has straight-line speed, no leaping ability, no ability to grab the ball in a crowd, and unless he has a clear path not much RAC. Hester always has and always will be a gimmick speedster: lethal in open space and has the ability to outrun any coverage, but no ability to fight for balls and not a red-zone threat. Roy is on the tail-end of his career, as was proven when Chicago signed him. Bennet is the most unexciting and underwhelming WR in the league, and Sanzenbacher makes him look like an exceptional athlete. None of these guys would start for any team in the league, with the possible exception of Hester starting in the slot for some teams.

The Bears receivers are hands-down the most laughable group in the league and have been for years. Basically, if they're on the Bears they suck, and they know they suck enough to take the meager pay the Bears will offer. So if you are scouting fantasy prospects, if they are on the Bears, look elsewhere. This has been true for about as long as I have been alive, probably longer.

 

[Frank Black]

I don't think there is decent WR value on the Bears and there hasn't been since the Robinson-Booker days that I can remember.

 

[Clifford]

Marty Booker was the last 1k receiver we had. 2002. Booker did it again in 2001 and Robinson managed over 1400 in 1999. If you want the full picture of futility...

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/single-season-receiving.htm

 

[Sweet Love]

Basically, these guys cannibalize each other's value...they are all the same receiver, with different names and jersey numbers (sans Williams, who dug his own grave). That is why I was high on Williams in the early preseason, because he was different. Why rush Bennett back in when Sensebacher is pretty much the same thing...Know is the best of the group, but he does not have a unique skill set, he is just a tad bit better. Hester has more speed and elusiveness, but we all know his value on special teams, and you can't deny their hesitancy to have him be a "normal" receiver and run routes across the middle. In dynasty, if you think Martz will be gone, I think Knox is the guy who stands out. You can have them all for pennies on the dollar, so if you have a spot you can wait on for 9-21 months, he may be the guy you target.

 

[Statcruncher]

Fantasy wise Knox was serviceable last year, racking up the 29th most points among WR/TE's. He lead the Bears in targets (99), receiving yards (960), and shared the lead in receiving TD's (5). Heading into this year IMO Knox again would be the one man to own and would have probably slightly improved to a mid to low #2 in 12 man leagues.

Of course the powers that be brought in Roy Williams so all bets are off. I'm guessing Knox's benching has been a combination of management's delirium in believing Williams is a game changer and Knox's uncanny ability to get his targets turning into INT's. I think the team is more dangerous offensively with Knox on the field but he makes some WTF plays at times as well.

If you put a gun to my head and made me pick a Bear WR looking for a homerun I would go with Hester and expect a pattern of 3-4 subpar games then 1 good game. If I needed a solid plug-in and leave Bear WR I would probably go Knox and starting jabbing pins into a Roy Williams voodoo doll. As long as Williams is in the lineup I can't see any Bear WR worth owning in fantasy.

 

[Boomer1]

2 Bears WR's are rostered in our league (Hester and Knox); neither has been started all year.

Is there another NFL team that does not have one WR who is at least servicable on a weekly basis from a fantasy perspective????

 

[marbotty]

just say no

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

2 Bears WR's are rostered in our league (Hester and Knox); neither has been started all year. Is there another NFL team that does not have one WR who is at least servicable on a weekly basis from a fantasy perspective????

Jax

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Roy Williams is bad, but a known commodity, and would be rostered on some other NFL teams.

Johnny Knox is terrible and wouldn't be rostered on oher teams.

Devin Hester is a terrific special teams player, but can only run one pattern well, if he can get off the line of scrimmage. As a Wide Receiver only, he would not make other NFL teams. The Bears have invested too much money in him to have him only return kicks, so they force him out there. Is awful.

Earl Bennett- I expect him to have a nice, long career as a #2 or #3 receiver.

Dane Sanzenbacher is showing well, but too many drops for a possession receiver.

Sam Hurd is a special teams player, but is better than the Bears are using him on offense.

Here's one thing I know about Jay in this offense. He doesn't trust Williams, Knox or Hester to catch the ball. He doesn't trust Knox or Hester with anything in the air over their heads, let alone anything they would have to jump for or fight for. The only players he trusts over the middle are non-wide receivers, Bennett, and Sanzenbacher. He is thowing the ball to the guy who has the best chance of catching it, not the guy who is open, which is just a sad statement on the state of this crew.

 

[Clifford]

2 Bears WR's are rostered in our league (Hester and Knox); neither has been started all year. Is there another NFL team that does not have one WR who is at least servicable on a weekly basis from a fantasy perspective????

Jax

+ St Louis but unlike the Bears they actually did something about it

 

[candymanvandyfan]

2 Bears WR's are rostered in our league (Hester and Knox); neither has been started all year. Is there another NFL team that does not have one WR who is at least servicable on a weekly basis from a fantasy perspective????

Jax

+ St Louis but unlike the Bears they actually did something about it

No other NFL team would trade all of its receivers for all of the Chicago receivers.

 

[Lascelle]

I'd really only be enthusiastic about Hester in return yardage leagues and that's about it.

It's a real shame too given that recent Strength of Schedule charts have the Bears receivers called out as facing an incredibly favorable fantasy playoff schedule.

I think Bennett would be worth taking a flyer on once healthy if he's showing promise in converting a frequent number of targets into plays.

 

[duaneok66]

crazy to think that a Martz led offense has no fantasy viable WRs . . .

 

[eric rymer]

16 team league and carry WR and no Bears WR is rostered. I would take Hester as a WR 4 or flex just on his HR ablity.......maybe

And we wonder why Cutler gets beat up on here. If we won't roster or get excited about his WR, how can he.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

fyi, i am considering picking up Roy Williams as a spot start this weekend against an awful TB defense in an international game that, for the last few years, has been high scoring.

 

[Max Power]

Roy Williams is bad, but a known commodity, and would be rostered on some other NFL teams.Johnny Knox is terrible and wouldn't be rostered on oher teams.Devin Hester is a terrific special teams player, but can only run one pattern well, if he can get off the line of scrimmage. As a Wide Receiver only, he would not make other NFL teams. The Bears have invested too much money in him to have him only return kicks, so they force him out there. Is awful.Earl Bennett- I expect him to have a nice, long career as a #2 or #3 receiver. Dane Sanzenbacher is showing well, but too many drops for a possession receiver. Sam Hurd is a special teams player, but is better than the Bears are using him on offense.Here's one thing I know about Jay in this offense. He doesn't trust Williams, Knox or Hester to catch the ball. He doesn't trust Knox or Hester with anything in the air over their heads, let alone anything they would have to jump for or fight for. The only players he trusts over the middle are non-wide receivers, Bennett, and Sanzenbacher. He is thowing the ball to the guy who has the best chance of catching it, not the guy who is open, which is just a sad statement on the state of this crew.

For the most part.Although, Knox isn't awful. I like his potential, he DOES HAVE a future in this league. And Bennett, is ok at best. Pretty run of the mill WR IMO.

 

[loose circuits]

Knox is definitley worth a spot in dynasty leagues, in fact I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd round pick in my ppr league. He's in his 3rd year out of a small college. He needs to get stronger and that is his main issue. 6' 185 lbs isn't enough to get the job done so he can't run the whole route tree effectively and the OL isn't good enough to be good deep. I think he definitely has the potential to get there though. He has already had one season averaging almost 19 ypc and 900+ yards receiving which is remarkable. The issue with him is he's more of a complement WR not a true WR1 and Hester isn't going to strike fear in D's across from him so his production has been limited when he starts.

Roy Williams is looking for his legs and they got lost somewhere in dallas or possibly even Detroit

I think Sanzenbacher will be an effective Slot guy in this offense ala Mike Furrey. he was a legit clutch WR at Ohio State.

They need a true WR1 and there are plenty of options in this years draft, but I think more importantly they need to improve the OL play to take advantage of both Hester and Knox.

BTW, Hester has been playing well the past few weeks. I'm actually starting him in one league where I'm weak at WR

 

[two_dollars]

Clifford is just an unapologetic Bears hater, you can't take what he says about Chicago seriously.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

The wide receiver leading the Bears in catches has 17 receptions, good for 51st in the league among wide receivers. Sanzenbacher appears to be the only one tough enough to go over the middle in Earl's absence. An undrafted rookie is doing all the dirty work while Hester and Knox are painting their nails.

The wide receiver leading the Bears in receiving yards has 295, good for 33rd in the league among wide receivers. I'd be curious to know how many of these yards came on 18 yard comeback routes. People are going to start sitting on that thing.

I would like to see a game of:

Roy Williams

Earl Bennett

Sam Hurd

Dane Sanzenbacher as the fourth receiver.

Let Knox and Hester focus on the return game.

 

[Max Power]

I was very pleased with Bennett tonight. More so as a bears fan than as a Fantasy owner. But I do think he will be a solid #2/#3 for the bears for the next several years.

I still think Knox has the most potential at this level and I can't understand why Martz still favors Roy over him. Bennett is probably worth a dynasty pickup at this point now, But I don't think he will ever become a top 40 WR.

 

[RenegadeGM]

I was very pleased with Bennett tonight. More so as a bears fan than as a Fantasy owner. But I do think he will be a solid #2/#3 for the bears for the next several years. I still think Knox has the most potential at this level and I can't understand why Martz still favors Roy over him. Bennett is probably worth a dynasty pickup at this point now, But I don't think he will ever become a top 40 WR.

Is Bennett worth an add this week after guys like Ford and Robinson are off the board? He had only five targets this week but did catch them all for 95 yards and a TD. He did play in 14 games last year and wasn't too impressive, with 46 catches for 561 yards. Thoughts?

 

[Max Power]

I was very pleased with Bennett tonight. More so as a bears fan than as a Fantasy owner. But I do think he will be a solid #2/#3 for the bears for the next several years. I still think Knox has the most potential at this level and I can't understand why Martz still favors Roy over him. Bennett is probably worth a dynasty pickup at this point now, But I don't think he will ever become a top 40 WR.

Is Bennett worth an add this week after guys like Ford and Robinson are off the board? He had only five targets this week but did catch them all for 95 yards and a TD. He did play in 14 games last year and wasn't too impressive, with 46 catches for 561 yards. Thoughts?

If you have the roster space, he'd be a decent add after those two. I'd probably consider adding Ramses Barden before him as well. He easily looked like the best WR option on the bears last night, my biggest concern is the bears are winning with the run game and defense. Right now thats a team built to only throw 30-35 times a game. So 5-8 targets is going to be his max most weeks IMO. He will have some nice games, but there will be a lot of 3 for 30 games too. Bennett's upside just seems limmited to me, good all around player, but hes not special.