Carolina loses at home to Dallas today!NYG lose at Washington today!Bears win at GB will wrap up the #2 seed (assuming Seattle gets the #1), and this means a 1st round bye week, and a home game in Round #2!Bears are a 7 point favorite at Green Bay.Let's see if they can wrap this up on Christmas!
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Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Wow does that say a lot about the NFC.
Bears, 17-7
fantasy nut
Footballguy
Da Bears have three games left in their season...can you say "one and done" in the playoffs?!
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Boy is this thought process getting old
fantasy nut
Footballguy
No doubt, especially since the Bears have so many "quality" wins...NOT! The win at Tampa qualifies, but the wins at home vs. Carolina and Atlanta were nice too but more or less expected. WINS
DET, MIN, BAL, @DET @NO, SF, CAR, @TB, GB, ATL
LOSSES
@WAS, CIN, @CLE, @PIT
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Limp Ditka
Footballguy
1. The Bears were dogs against Carolina, so it wasn't "expected". I guess that would fall in the less catagory then.2. Where does the logic go that these wins at home are to be "expected" when the playoffs start?
fantasy nut
Footballguy
It goes away completely as far as the Bears are concerned...I predict Washington or the G-Men take them out.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Have you seen Eli Manning play lately? It is scary to think how bad the Bears defense would make him look at Soldier Field. And the Bears have plenty of quality wins this season. Everyone has been talking up the NFC South all year and the Bears completely owned that division.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Washington just manhandled the Gmen and in the process lost Brunell. Now while we don't know how long Brunell is going to be gone for, I really don't think that the Bears need to fear either team. Especially a Redskin team with Ramsey at QB
Joe Sixpack
Footballguy
Green Bay will be lucky to score on the Bears at all. The defense really wants the record for least points allowed.
There is no team in the NFC that the Bears should fear.Seattle hasn't had a taste yet of the Chicago defense.TB (10 points), Carolina (3 points), Washington (9 points) and Minnesota (3 points) have seen it, and didn't do so good with it.Eli Manning putting the ball up for grabs isn't going to mix so well vs. it either.I would love to see one of those teams come into Chicago and beat the Bears.With Grossman back (and hopefully healthy), the Bears offense now has a chance to stay on the field, get some 1st down, rest up that defense, and maybe even score a few TD's once in awhile!
Urlacher54
Footballguy
I would first like to say that I think Seattle is a better team than the Bears, but not by as much as everybody is making them out to be. As far as the scheduling goes, it is not like Seattle has proven a lot there either. Going into today, 5 games all year against teams with at least 6 wins to date, they are 3-0 at home (Atlanta, Dallas, and NYGiants) all by 3 pts, and 0-2 on the road (Jacksonville and Washington). Every other win has been against truly craptacular teams. So if the Bears only "quality" win was against TB because it was on the road, where is Seattle's quality win? Lucky for Seattle, they will not need to play on the road in the playoffs, so they will be tough to beat. But I would like to see which NFC teams you consider to have a lot of "quality" wins.
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GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
I think their defense is very good, but I think it's also the product of playing a very, very soft schedule.The defense I saw the Steelers manhandle isn't the best one in the league.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
If you are going to denigrate the Bears defense because of the Pittsburgh game, can I say the Colts offense isn't that good because of the first Jacksonville game this season? The obvious answer is no. You do not judge a team by one game. You judge them by the whole season. And the Bears defense, without question, has been the best in 2005.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Not entirely based on that game. I think their soft schedule, which continues tonight, has as much to do with their ranking as their talent. Don't get me wrong, I think the Bears have a good defense - just not as good as some people.A good offense will be able to move the ball and score on them. They've been fortunate not to face many this year.
BoulderBob
Footballguy
The Pitt game was played on a wet field, which took the strength of the Bears D (speed) and nullified it.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The Bears held the Bengals great offense to 11 first downs and 244 total yards (127 below their season average) when they faced them. The Bengals did score 24 points, but that was because Orton was awful (5 turnovers, IIRC) and gave them great field position all day. How about Atlanta (they rank 12th in the NFL in total offense)? They have a very good offense and only managed 3 points and 231 total yards against the Bears defense last week. If you are going to judge the Bears defense by a subpar performance in the slop in Pittsburgh, then them shutting down a dome team in the cold weather is just as relevant.
Washington is 11th in total offense, yet managed only 9 points against the Bears, although they did manage over 300 yards of total offense.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
The Bengals scored 24 points against the Bears and won a convincing game, and I'd expect a good defense like the Bears to control a one-dimensional offense like Atlanta. As for the Redskins, that was week 1 with an unimpressive Patrick Ramsey playing QB who led them to 300+ total yards. Like I said, the Bears have feasted on a lot of poor offenses, and lucky for them, they'll probably face another mediocre team in their first playoff game.And I don't want to hear about how the weather in Pittsburgh was a disadvantage for the Bears' defense when playing in Chicago in January is supposed to be in their favor. Are people expecting good weather for a home Bears playoff game?
The Bears are a good team and they have a good defense. As sad as it is, they might even be the 2nd best team in the NFC. I don't think they've proven all that much given the schedule they've faced, but they'll have a chance to do some damage in the playoffs.
can we also mention in pitt the fact that both starting Safeties were out along with a starting outside linebacker? Cause that sure didn't help having the liability of Mike Green in the secondary. And they all said it, it was a terrible showing of tackling in that game.....They've rebounded well from it
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Because the Bears offense gave the game away by turning the ball over at will the whole game. See my earlier post again about how many total yards the Bears 'D' held the great Bengals offense to. That is more indicative of how well the Bears defense played than anything else.
One-dimensional or not, Atlanta is 12th in NFL in total offense, which is slightly above average, and the Bears completely shut them down.
I think we both would agree that the Bears and Redskins are both much different teams now than they were week 1. Besides, the Redskins scored ZERO points with Ramsey in the game. Brunell came in and led them to all of their points.
Another mediocre team in their first playoff game? Odds are it will be the Giants, Panthers or Bucs. Those are hardly mediocre teams.
You are missing the point. If you can use the Steelers game (which favored the Steelers since a game in the snow can slow down a fast defense like Chicago's, especially against a power running team like Pittsburgh) as an example of why you think the Bears defense is overrated, then I do not want to hear any complaining when the Bears shut down teams in the freezing cold at Soldier Field. That is what home field advantage. Pittsburgh used it to their advantage when they beat the Bears. Chicago is using it to their advantage right now.
Almost half of their games have been against teams above .500 (7 of 15) and they are 4-3 in those games (4-1 since September).
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msommer
Footballguy
Ramsey would essentially be playing on a national stage for a new contract elsewhere - he certainly will be motivated. I suppose he was good enough to beat the Giants as a sub - he might not do too badly when given 1st team reps for awhile. Whether he can beat the Bears is another thing - but he still has two games to win before that (and have to hope Brunell does not get healthy). Tall odds either way.
flooredyas
Footballguy
What a great day to be a lifelong Bear fan. Division title, 1st round bye wrapped up and the Favre mistique removed. I snub my nose at all you non-believers in Chicago, as Grossman changes EVERYTHING going into the playoffs now. Without a doubt, that was a very special X-Mass for me and all true Bear fans across the entire nation.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
simply a bad game all around. EVERY team had one this year.Not sure all the black and gold gum flappin is about, Steelers will get rolled on in Cincy and be home watching the first Bears game on TV.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
The Bears were outplayed against the Steelers and the Bengals. No question about it.They let their guard down against Cleveland, and in doing so, they deserved to lose that game....and they barely lost to a veteran Redskins team on the road on Kickoff Sunday.Seeing as the Bears went into the season with an unproven rookie QB starting, their 'franchise RB of the future' rusty from sitting out all of Training Camp and had a new offensive coordinator, I'll gladly take a 11-4 record and first week bye in the playoffs.
fatness
Footballguy
The Bears deserve hearty congratulations for winning their division and posting their current record. Nobody saw this coming. Their defense was great, and their offense did not implode like a lot of people thought it would. If Lovie Smith isn't coach of the year, it's a crime.But they haven't played the toughest schedule and have a mixed record against good teams. They playoffs will show a lot about how good they are.
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