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Belichick wins NFL coach of year (1 Viewer)

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I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)

 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.

 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
You can make a hell of an argument for Morris over Belichick. Haley lost twice to the Raiders and beat only one team with a winning record.

I expect Bill will be giving the award (postmortem) to Rex.

 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
There are always strong candidates, but only one BEST candidate.Congrats, Belichick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I believe this is Pro Football Weekly magazine and the Professional Football Writers of America NFL Coach of the Year Award. There are no official NFL awards, but the the AP NFL Coach of the Year Award is generally considered the most official.

 
they should give an award to the Pats GM and scouts. Kudos to BB and staff for training/teaching them and all, but wow what a draft for them

 
Well deserved.

To me, it was probably the most impressive season he's had given the mid-stream scheme change and the lack of defensive talent in the front 7.

 
For an award that has so often proved to be a joke (see: Tony Sparano, Marvin Lewis) it's good to see the actual best in season coaching job be accredited this award.

 
A coaches salary cap has been discussed on twitter the last week or so as a real strong possibility. If so there is supposed to be a vote and a quick union formed for all the coaches. (There's been more behind the scenes than we know of apparently) I don't know how it will all wind up. I don't know if coaches will be able to redo contracts or any of that, but I do think BB is the best coach in the NFL and it's probably a real strong thing to have rolling right now as they head into such an issue.

Morris and McCarthy and other suggested guys did do fantastic jobs this year, but I gotta figure it's in all their best interest if BB is coach of the year before this mess begins.

Feel free to start another thread, I don't want to hijack this one.

 
To me, it was probably the most impressive season he's had given the mid-stream scheme change and the lack of defensive talent in the front 7.
I was thinking that too. Either this year or their first Supe. In hindsight it's "the great Tom Brady" taking over for Bledsoe after a Mo Lewis hit, but Brady was quite wet behind the ears then. Also more often than not I thought they were outmatched by their opponent and they won anyway. Maybe it's just because BB isn't likely to be in the underdog role too too much anymore as well? The Browns and Jets BB teams? Whatever the case, I was thinking this year and that year as his best.
 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
The Patriots went 7-1 against winning teams this year though. That's seriously impressive. They beat the Ravens, Chargers, Steelers, Colts, Jets, Bears, and Packers. There are 4 teams left alive in the playoffs. The Patriots beat all 4.The Falcons went 5-3 against winning teams. Pretty good but what the Patriots did was something else and they had the best record in the NFL.

 
I don't think anyone can argue that Raheem did the most with the least and far surpassed everyones expectations. Lowest payroll (coaches, players, & front office), most injuries, and a team full of nobodies. Maybe he can win it next sesaon now that his nobodies are somebodies.

 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
Thomas Jones had more carries than Jamaal Charles this year. Id say Haley was not a strong candidate
 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
Thomas Jones had more carries than Jamaal Charles this year. Id say Haley was not a strong candidate
He took the KC Cheifs to 10-6 record. Not an easy thing to do.
 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
Thomas Jones had more carries than Jamaal Charles this year. Id say Haley was not a strong candidate
He took the KC Cheifs to 10-6 record. Not an easy thing to do.
They played one playoff team all year and lost (INDY)
 
If Morris had taken TB to the playoffs, I'd agree he's worth consideration, but they had a fairly easy schedule (CARx2, ARI, CLE, DET, SF, WAS, CIN) so next year will be the true test.

 
should have gone to raheem morris. sorry but that's the truth. that team had a huge turnaround from last season. also they had to play something like 13 rookies over the last few games including that game where they crushed the seahawks. 13 rookies out of a 45 man roster is insane. and let's be honest the nfc south was better this year then the afc east.

 
the samw cleveland team that beat the patriots :-)

If Morris had taken TB to the playoffs, I'd agree he's worth consideration, but they had a fairly easy schedule (CARx2, ARI, CLE, DET, SF, WAS, CIN) so next year will be the true test.
 
I don't understand why this award is always "biggest turnaround award". If they want to do that way they should make it it's own award. The Coach of the Year is, usually, routinely a joke with the coach winning it being a complete disaster down the line. Just because a coach is proven doesn't mean he should be discredited this award especially when he has the best record in football.

 
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I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
The Patriots went 7-1 against winning teams this year though. That's seriously impressive. They beat the Ravens, Chargers, Steelers, Colts, Jets, Bears, and Packers. There are 4 teams left alive in the playoffs. The Patriots beat all 4.
...and blew out 3 of them

 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
I don't think there is a set rule, but it is rare. I remember looking at AP NFL Coach of the Year winners not too long ago, and I think the only coaches to win more than one such award with the same team since the merger were Belichick, Ditka, and Gibbs. So, he's already in rare company with two wins.
 
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I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
This is the thought process that ruins awards. It should go to the best performance across the field for that year, not in comparison to the year or years before.
 
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I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
You can make a hell of an argument for Morris over Belichick.

Haley lost twice to the Raiders and beat only one team with a winning record. I expect Bill will be giving the award (postmortem) to Rex.
:goodposting:
 
I would love to see the number of people who would rather have Todd Haley or Raheem Morris coach their team instead of Bill Belichick. My guess is zero. I don't like the guy, but who actually thinks Haley or Morris gets 14 wins with the Patriots this year?

 
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This is the thought process that ruins awards. It should go to the best performance across the field for that year, not in comparison to the year or years before.
I was under the impression the award was supposed to go to the coach that did the best job which might not always translate to the best winning record. If that is the case then why bother voting? Just give it to the guy with the best W-L record and if there is a tie then use some tiebreaker like winning % of opposing teams.
 
I would love to see the number of people who would rather have Todd Haley or Raheem Morris coach their team instead of Bill Belichick. My guess is zero. I don't like the guy, but who actually thinks Haley or Morris gets 14 wins with the Patriots this year?
So the award should be given to the guy we want to coach our team?Belichick did a great job this season and I am not saying he didn't deserve the award but I think cases can be made for some other coaches.
 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
With 15 players on IR, I think McCarthy deserved it. This unit has been hodge-podge all season. And he got it together when it mattered.
 
I would love to see the number of people who would rather have Todd Haley or Raheem Morris coach their team instead of Bill Belichick. My guess is zero. I don't like the guy, but who actually thinks Haley or Morris gets 14 wins with the Patriots this year?
So the award should be given to the guy we want to coach our team?Belichick did a great job this season and I am not saying he didn't deserve the award but I think cases can be made for some other coaches.
Should the standards be different from the MVP award?
 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
With 15 players on IR, I think McCarthy deserved it. This unit has been hodge-podge all season. And he got it together when it mattered.
:excited: He definitely deserves to be mentioned.
 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
You can make a hell of an argument for Morris over Belichick. Haley lost twice to the Raiders and beat only one team with a winning record.

I expect Bill will be giving the award (postmortem) to Rex.
The Bucs also only beat one team with a winning record, the Saints.
 
I would love to see the number of people who would rather have Todd Haley or Raheem Morris coach their team instead of Bill Belichick. My guess is zero. I don't like the guy, but who actually thinks Haley or Morris gets 14 wins with the Patriots this year?
So the award should be given to the guy we want to coach our team?Belichick did a great job this season and I am not saying he didn't deserve the award but I think cases can be made for some other coaches.
Should the standards be different from the MVP award?
MVP's seem to usually go to the QB or RB that has the best stats, not necessarily the player I would most rather have on my team.
 
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I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
I think McCarthy deserved to be in the running, too, given all of the injuries that the Pack dealt with. But I think Belichick was easisly the most deserving. He did an amazing job this season given how young and inexperienced that defense was. Factor in, too, the trading of Moss, and that the offense didn't skip a beat without him--in fact, seemed to get stronger as the season went on, and without any superstars to speak of other than Brady. The way he was able to get so much production out of his two rookie TEs was incredible. His creastive use of Woodhead, and turning BJGE into a very capable NFL RB. I think Belichick was the easy choice here.
 
Tomlin held his team together early when Roethlisberger's suspension could have sent them into a tailspin and late when O-line injuries could have derailed them.

McCarthy held his team together even while losing his starting R.B., T.E., 3 out of 4 starting L.B.'s in a 3-4 defense, and numerous other key players.

 
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
With 15 players on IR, I think McCarthy deserved it. This unit has been hodge-podge all season. And he got it together when it mattered.
The Pats put 14 guys on I.R. this year. Certainly a case could be made that the GB guys were bigger names/more important and that they were knocked out earlier in the year.That being said, NE lost a starting CB (Leigh Bodden), 2 starting OLmen (Nick Kaczur and Stephen Neal), 2 starting DLmen (Mike Wright and Ty Warren), their All Pro kicker (Stephen Gostkowski), 4 other DBs, and Kevin Faulk.
 
raheem morris shouldn't even be in the conversation. tampa only beat one team with a winning record and that was against the saints who had nothing to play for in week 17.

mccarthy, belicheck, tomlin, harbaugh and mike smith are all more deserving than morris. congrats to the evil emperor who earned the title again this year. he did an amazing job.

 
Godsbrother said:
shortbow said:
This is the thought process that ruins awards. It should go to the best performance across the field for that year, not in comparison to the year or years before.
I was under the impression the award was supposed to go to the coach that did the best job which might not always translate to the best winning record. If that is the case then why bother voting? Just give it to the guy with the best W-L record and if there is a tie then use some tiebreaker like winning % of opposing teams.
It's a combination of record and pre season expectations. Most had Pats as 9-10 win team. They beat that by 4-5 wins.
 
Works for me. Bellichick is coarch of the year, Brady can have MVP... let them have all the awards. Just LMAO that they are 1 and done in the playoffs (just like last year).

Did it appear like Brady had been bawling in the locker room prior to his post-game presser :goodposting:

 
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munchkin said:
Godsbrother said:
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Godsbrother said:
I realize the award is given for the regular season and the Patriots went 14-2 but I am still a little surprised by this considering that Belichick has already won the award twice and there were so many other strong candidates: Todd Haley, Mike Smith, Raheem Morris and Mike Tomlin (am I forgetting anyone?)
So they are only allowed to win it X # of times?

I think it's deserved this year maybe more than the other 2 times with what he was able to do with such a young, inexperienced team.
Not saying that you can only win it a certain number of times but what Haley did in KC and Morris did in Tampa Bay was pretty darn impressive. Atlanta is also a pretty young team and only won 1 less game.
You can make a hell of an argument for Morris over Belichick. Haley lost twice to the Raiders and beat only one team with a winning record.

I expect Bill will be giving the award (postmortem) to Rex.
The Bucs also only beat one team with a winning record, the Saints.
Young QB, rookie receivers, Rookie RB, Coordinators not named Weis and Crennel and I don't think that TB ownership spends nearly the money and supports the team like the Chief's do.
 

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